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February 24, 2024, 05:36:27 AM
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I guess this move was, in a way inevitable and people may have very well predicted a collaboration with some government agencies.
Being a stable coin, it is bound (as it did) to attract crypto enthusiasts who would only be too happy to hold USDT while diversifying their holdings. You wouldn’t have to fret about the value as it’s steady and perhaps due to that reason, it has become popular, widely used and over time, somewhat dependable.
Holding USDT was more or less the same as holding USD on your person. Now with this collaboration, your USDT  could be monitored, blocked and your funds seized.




But does the Fed even need a reason to freeze anyone's wallet nowadays? To me, they don't; they just make a reason and pronounce anything they want illegal, and that's it.

They obviously would need a reason to seize peoples funds.  It may not be a reasonable one nor an outright just one, but they’ll state a reason and wouldn’t care much if you understood or find reasonable, their reasons.
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February 24, 2024, 05:58:46 AM
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One can not just keep printing "US dollar" and get away from US regime's retaliation. That is why Tether has been doing! They print dollar! At first US tried fighting it but the Tether guys cooperated and were allowed to continue to exist as long as that cooperation continued.

We already knew Tether is a centralized shitcoin and they could freeze anybody's account and seize their money. The rest of their scam will continued being revealed...

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February 24, 2024, 07:26:59 AM
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For security reasons and for asset safety I will advice if we must use stable coins which should consider those ones which we have total control over them and not just the ones that have frozen feature enabled on them.


I would prefer holding my bitcoins rather than any stable coin because I know that my bitcoins cannot be frozen by any entity.
Almost all the stable coins out there can be controlled by an entity which gives them the power to freeze our coins in our wallet.
So why to hold such coins at first place. I know there might come a need to buy those stable coins but even in that case I would just hold it for few days.
It's better to avoid using stable coins.

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February 24, 2024, 01:37:31 PM
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I fear that a day will come when tether (USDT) blocks, freezes, or sends tokens from user wallets for tax purposes or even in response to a fraudulent request. Then it will turn to intermediary services like PayPal, which rely on bank accounts and comply with all legislation. tether (USDT) is more risky than using cash, as cash is more difficult to track and has a lower probability of freezing than USDT, which is highly centralized and its price can fall below $1.
Some people will simply not learn their lesson.  It is their choice not to and after all we are all adults with our own brain we use.  In theory.

USDT is in my opinion worse even than Fiat.  There is absolutely NO point in holding a Cryptocurrency that is SO Centralized and that offers sometimes even less advantages than using Fiat directly.  Besides being able to hold on to the Fiat value of your Portfolio, to me they are useless and sense lacking.

Too many Stablecoins became unstable all of a sudden in the past years.  This should have been a giant warning sign for any body who contemplates doing the same and trying to use Stablecoins because 'even if it happens, what are the chances it happens NOW'.

Imagine having to transfer 100 thousand Dollars through USDT and they decide to crack down on all Wallets containing more than 50 thousand Dollars by freezing them and initializing an investigation.  You are one of those in the exact middle of that with no idea what is about to happen.  So you all of a sudden wake up with your Dollars seized or frozen for no reason.

Why would I want to live under this constant fear.  I want safety, not fear.  Bitcoin offers that.

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February 24, 2024, 08:03:39 PM
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Tether has actually released audit reports. Just last month, it has released its 4th quarter report. They reported billions in profit. Accordingly, there is even an excess in cash reserves. This was done by an independent auditing firm. As to whether we trust it or not, it would be up to us.
Was it the first time they've released reports?

Tether is a centralized company and with smart contract of Tether USD (USDT), they can seize USDT in any address.

PSA: Most Stablecoins Can Be Frozen, Even in Your Own Wallets
Stable coin and black list.

There are many banned addresses from Tether. 1,275 banned addresses with total USDT in those banned addresses is 952,204,533 USDT
https://duneanalytics.com/phabc/usdt---banned-addresses
They've frozen $952M USDT so does it mean each 1275 addresses were used for crime? If they've frozen funds which aren't from crime they've stopped innocent ppl from using their USDT. Who'll hodl stable coins if they can't be sure their funds won't be frozen.

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February 25, 2024, 04:43:00 AM
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They've frozen $952M USDT so does it mean each 1275 addresses were used for crime? If they've frozen funds which aren't from crime they've stopped innocent ppl from using their USDT. Who'll hodl stable coins if they can't be sure their funds won't be frozen.
They have reasons to freeze those USDT in banned addresses but they did not public reasons for each banned address.

As user, we only need to know about that power of Tether with their smart contract and aware that they can freeze any USDT address includes our addresses.

Freeze is one risk and another big risk is depeg. Stable coins like USDT can be depeg if they don't have enough cash but over minting their stable coin.
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February 25, 2024, 02:28:11 PM
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They didn't give public reasons for freezing $952M USDT in 1275 addresses so they've explained nothing it means investors can't trust them. USDT isn't a good investment.

They have reasons to freeze those USDT in banned addresses but they did not public reasons for each banned address.

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February 26, 2024, 02:32:17 AM
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Tether has actually released audit reports. Just last month, it has released its 4th quarter report. They reported billions in profit. Accordingly, there is even an excess in cash reserves. This was done by an independent auditing firm. As to whether we trust it or not, it would be up to us.
Was it the first time they've released reports?

I know it's not. But Tether has always been controversial. I remember there was a bugging question as to Tether's reserve, or capacity to mint tens of billions of coins, for many years. They then released an audit report. But the report somehow raised more questions than answers. It didn't satisfy the public. It didn't allay their suspicions and doubts. It even questioned the reputation of the auditing party. But succeeding audit reports were released since then. This one is the latest. I'm not sure if this is the same auditing firm that first made Tether's audit years ago.

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February 27, 2024, 08:16:01 PM
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Binance's on alert after SEC's case against CZ & FTX's controlled by administrators. They aren't scared to go after big players so why didn't they force Tether to own up to the truth. If they don't have enough reserves they can't pay to cover their crypto so why'r they allowed to trade?

I know it's not. But Tether has always been controversial. I remember there was a bugging question as to Tether's reserve, or capacity to mint tens of billions of coins, for many years. They then released an audit report. But the report somehow raised more questions than answers. It didn't satisfy the public. It didn't allay their suspicions and doubts. It even questioned the reputation of the auditing party. But succeeding audit reports were released since then. This one is the latest. I'm not sure if this is the same auditing firm that first made Tether's audit years ago.

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February 28, 2024, 01:22:39 AM
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Is this the right place for this?

Another reason people should stop using tether (USDT), which is among the most stable coins we have in the crypto market right now, and it ranks in the top 3 according to coin . marketcap  
There are alot of reasons why people should stop using Tether aka USDT even since the stablecoin had an issue with law years ago due to the fund they used to support a crypto exchange which I currently don't remember the name of the exchange.
Meanwhile, if all cryptocurrency enthusiasts wanted to prevent issues like USDT collaboration with the DOJ, FBI, etc they need to stop using both USDT, and USDC and introduce a decentralized stablecoin, or else as stablecoin is considered all of them are working with the FEDs.


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February 28, 2024, 02:01:23 AM
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There are alot of reasons why people should stop using Tether aka USDT even since the stablecoin had an issue with law years ago due to the fund they used to support a crypto exchange which I currently don't remember the name of the exchange.
Meanwhile, if all cryptocurrency enthusiasts wanted to prevent issues like USDT collaboration with the DOJ, FBI, etc they need to stop using both USDT, and USDC and introduce a decentralized stablecoin, or else as stablecoin is considered all of them are working with the FEDs.

You might be referring to Bitfinex. If I'm not mistaken, both Tether and Bitfinex are owned by one company. There were suspicions, much stronger in the past, that the funds used by Tether as its reserves are also the same funds used by Bitfinex in declaring its own proof of reserves. There's an intermingling of funds by both companies to boost their reserve numbers.

Anyway, both USDT and USDC are centralized. DAI is the more reputable option. But everything's pointless if you are using a centralized exchange anyway. If you are avoiding USDT because it is collaborating with DOJ, FBI, and other secret services, but you are using the likes of Binance, then you are actually not safer. Centralized platforms are also working closely with government agencies.

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February 28, 2024, 03:17:41 PM
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Tether isn't Bitcoin.

Tether is not a decentralized digital currency.

They have every right to work like fiat, they are stable coin and yes they are centralized, regulated? It's certain, because it's equivalent to dollars.

If you are complaining about this then you don't know what you are doing, find a decentralized stable coin and your problem is no more, to me I like how Tether is working, there is no other way than this.

I have always use Tether since many years already and they have never frozen my funds before, sounds like something a hacker or scammer should be complaining about, someone, something must always give the unclean criminals what they deserves, just because it's crypto space it doesn't mean all criminals should be unleashed in this space.


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Another reason people should stop using tether (USDT), which is among the most stable coins we have in the crypto market right now, and it ranks in the top 3 according to coin . marketcap  
 

It will be hard for people to completely stop using Tether, at least in the near future, because it's like one of the earliest Stablecoin pegged by Fiat, so it has the top of mine when people want to use Stablecoin, its like the OG. I preferred Bitcoin for my transaction as freelancer but some of my clients want to use USDT, some of them are not so familiar with crypto or they are still new to it, so they prefer to use Stablecoin, something that still close to Fiat. I believe there will be time when those people who use Tether will finally move on to Bitcoin when they know more about crypto and what's the benefit that it brings. But for now I think we need to accept (and keep warning people) that some of early newcomers of crypto still need to use Tether.

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Tether isn't Bitcoin.

Correct, but Tether influences the Bitcoin price more than anything else, at least that has been the case so far, it remains to be seen to what extent Bitcoin ETFs will eventually outstrip it. But the fact is that Tether has played a decisive role in every Bitcoin bull run, so it doesn't matter what happens to Tether. A confiscation of Tether could trigger a tsunami in the cryptouniverse.
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February 28, 2024, 08:18:56 PM
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Every stablecoin can is controlled by a party which is working with government. Let me tell you one more thing, might surprise you. Your exchange is working regularly with your government and share all the data so doesn't it make every asset on the Exchange being tracked by government? It's impossible that you never sent any Crypto to exchange. KYC needs to go, it shouldn't exist in 2024.
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Let me tell you one more thing, might surprise you. Your exchange is working regularly with your government and share all the data so doesn't it make every asset on the Exchange being tracked by government? It's impossible that you never sent any Crypto to exchange. KYC needs to go, it shouldn't exist in 2024.
The difference with stablecoins is that even after you have withdrawn it into your own wallet, it can still be frozen by the issuers, for example if you deposit Bitcoin into an exchange, it can be frozen by the exchange, but once you have withdrawn the coins into your own non-custodial wallet, it cannot be frozen by any entity. Having said that, if you want to avoid centralized exchanges and their compulsory KYC, trade in decentralized exchanges.

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February 28, 2024, 09:03:50 PM
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Edit.  Thought the reply above made no sense but it was my brain instead who did not.  To remove.

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February 29, 2024, 06:09:22 PM
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They obviously would need a reason to seize peoples funds.  It may not be a reasonable one nor an outright just one, but they’ll state a reason and wouldn’t care much if you understood or find reasonable, their reasons.
Governments most times don't need a reason to do something; they just create a reason and tag or confide in an address worthy of seizure, with the kind of legislative power and agreement they have with the government.
 
They seem not to even be the ones doing the sanctioning; rather, any address that the government agency has declared suspicious is hereby in danger, and they will take action immediately. It's now left for you, the wallet owner, to go and battle for your funds legally, and there is no guarantee that you will get any positive results from that.

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March 01, 2024, 12:46:18 AM
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It's worrying investors that's why they haven't been on tether buying sprees. If they'll block holders from funds because of fraudulent or inaccurate requests it's going to cause investors to dump. Tether isn't a good option to invest in.

I fear that a day will come when tether (USDT) blocks, freezes, or sends tokens from user wallets for tax purposes or even in response to a fraudulent request. Then it will turn to intermediary services like PayPal, which rely on bank accounts and comply with all legislation. tether (USDT) is more risky than using cash, as cash is more difficult to track and has a lower probability of freezing than USDT, which is highly centralized and its price can fall below $1.

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Correct, but Tether influences the Bitcoin price more than anything else, at least that has been the case so far, it remains to be seen to what extent Bitcoin ETFs will eventually outstrip it. But the fact is that Tether has played a decisive role in every Bitcoin bull run, so it doesn't matter what happens to Tether. A confiscation of Tether could trigger a tsunami in the cryptouniverse.
Because to lift Bitcoin price, new demand must exists, demand must be bigger than supply and to buy Bitcoin, people need stable coins and Tether is a biggest stable coin.

They have other options like cards, cash but stable coins are most favorite choices for Bitcoin investors. There are many stable coins but Tether is a biggest one and has a good ability to maintain its peg. At least USDT did not lose its peg in 2022 after Terra UST and FTX fiascos.

https://coinmarketcap.com/view/usd-stablecoin/

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