Anything to worry about if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?

[Hewlet]

Anything to worry about if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will any one come knocking on your door if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will posts like this be banned too after Jan?
Will using mixers be an expensive?

i doubt you will be penalized if you make any post regarding mixers as long as you're not promoting it or wearing a signature depicting that you are promoting it.

I be on a safer side, if it's not very necessary to bring up a mixer discussion in he forum, you can just avoid it for now and wait as things unfold with time since January first has been given as the deadline regarding any dealing wih mixers in the forum.

Just play safe and don't be the victim.

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[Seinlocko]

Anything to worry about if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will any one come knocking on your door if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will posts like this be banned too after Jan?
Will using mixers be an expensive?

There is nothing to worry about if we do not commit illegal acts such as money laundering. Then why should we be afraid?, if we are doing the right thing and not breaking the law.
And regarding mixer posts after January 1, maybe the words in the posts should just be censored.

[bitcoin talk]

Using mixer will be expensive because the current regulations is full of KYC, so it's not gonna be easy to stay anonymous.

You need KYC to use mixer?

[bitcoin talk]

There is nothing to worry about if we do not commit illegal acts such as money laundering. Then why should we be afraid?, if we are doing the right thing and not breaking the law.
And regarding mixer posts after January 1, maybe the words in the posts should just be censored.

Innocent people get arrested for crimes all the time.

[bitcoin talk]

Mixer is a tool to make you stay anonymous, so assuming you did right and know what you're doing, how can someone able to know your location and knocking your door? you must be leave your identity somewhere and it's already kill the purpose of mixer.

Using mixer will be expensive because the current regulations is full of KYC, so it's not gonna be easy to stay anonymous.

It is super easy to mess it up, by mixing outputs of separate transactions together. For example, I have a UTXO that is freshly mixed. Then I pay something online and I receive the change. If I then mix the change with other UTXOs that haven't been processed by mixers or coinjoins etc, you can definetely make a mistake. So I underline a sentence in your response, because it is important that we do things properly. No tool is safe against human error

You mean there is a right and wrong way to use a mixer?

[bitcoin talk]

Centralized exchanges are far more likely to question you about your funds if your coins are mixed. So if you already mixed your coins, probably do a couple of hops from multiple wallet addresses to hopefully bypass their automated flagging software if it doesn't dig deep enough.

Multiple hops from your own desktop wallet like Electrum?

[bitcoin talk]

Familiarize your local laws and your rights, do your own research when it comes to legal advice.

I doubt very much your average lawyer will even know what a mixer is.

[jeraldskie11]

Using mixer will be expensive because the current regulations is full of KYC, so it's not gonna be easy to stay anonymous.

You need KYC to use mixer?

I don't think so. The purpose of a mixer is to protect your privacy and identity or to make anonymous transaction. Now, if mixers required KYC on their customers then it's useless. If so, it is better to use directly on Centralized Exchanges than to waste your time and effort on mixers. Technically speaking, mixers wouldn't do that if they want to take care of their customers.

If ever all the mixers required KYC in the future then decentralized exchanges would be a good alternative.

[Eternad]

Familiarize your local laws and your rights, do your own research when it comes to legal advice.

I doubt very much your average lawyer will even know what a mixer is.

Your biggest concern on mixer that has a transaction to money launderer is you receiving Bitcoins from them especially when the mixer that use was seize by the government because your Bitcoin address will be on the watch list which you will have a problem if you send your coins on CEX.

But if you are from a country like 3rd world country that doesn’t give much attention to crypto then you are just fine since your government is the only one who can knock on your down and not US government that typically aggressive on this matter.

[leonair]

Anything to worry about if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will any one come knocking on your door if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will posts like this be banned too after Jan?
Will using mixers be an expensive?

Everyone who uses bitcoin mixers and who runs these sites remains anonymous. Because here everything is done in decentralized way.  And not only the identity of a customer but even the Bitcoin wallet is kept hidden here. And for this reason, illegal activities like money laundering are constantly happening here, which work against the laws of the government of every country, due to which various actions are being taken against these mixers. However, those who do not do any illegal work here have no chance to have any problem, but those who manage these sites may have a problem. Legal action will be taken against them

[Awaklara]

Anything to worry about if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?

If we don't do anything illegal, I think we have to remain confident that nothing bad will happen to us in the future. unless perhaps the mixer is ultimately proven to have a problem in an investigation. and there is a possibility that the address we use can also be traced. but if it has nothing to do with anything illegal, why should we be afraid?

Will posts like this be banned too after Jan?
Will using mixers be an expensive?

I don't think mixer-related discussions will be archived and locked. The most important thing is not to focus on placing URLs or deliberately placing links from mixers.
mixer is very synonymous with Bitcoin. and in forums that discuss anything related to Bitcoin ultimately it is not allowed to promote mixing platforms. but we can still use it.

I personally am not a mixer user, I have only used one or two mixers on the forum, and that's because I just wanted to try and gain experience from using the mixer platform.

[kryptqnick]

Anything to worry about if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will any one come knocking on your door if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will posts like this be banned too after Jan?
Will using mixers be an expensive?

As was pointed out, generic discussions of mixers would still be allowed, as long as nobody is mentioning specific websites or suggestions to find specific websites. I've never used Bitcoin mixers, and I'm not planning to use them in the future. As for what's illegal, it always depends on a country. You should check the legislation of the country where you live, as well as see if there were any notable cases of people getting in trouble just for using mixers (and not people getting in trouble because of using mixers to launder money, for example).

[Hamza2424]

Anything to worry about if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will any one come knocking on your door if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will posts like this be banned too after Jan?
Will using mixers be an expensive?

Hmm, getting involved in a service or using a service working for evil means, such as money laundering, etc can get the service users into trouble because the organizations will consider them as well the part of the crime. If you actively use the service banned by the official means you can never justify your actions.

Any post promoting the mixers after the JAN and somehow involving a direct reference to the mixer will be banned on the forum according to the statement made by the theymos.

Using mixers is not too expensive because the service fees range from 0.5% to 5% depending on the tier of service you are using basically they offer 3 tiers. That's it bro.

[jrrsparkles]

Anything to worry about if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will any one come knocking on your door if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?
Will posts like this be banned too after Jan?
Will using mixers be an expensive?

If the mixer, you used caught doing malicious activity and your address is linked somehow then you will have a problem but its highly unlikely to happen and if you have a proper source of income then you don't need to worry about facing legal actions.

But exchanges and casinos may flag your account as suspicious and will carry our further investigation if your funds deposited into their are from a flagged mixer.

[ImThour]

The only problem that I am aware of by using Mixers is that you shouldn't use CEX for some time as they don't like the source of a new wallet with coins.
Also, it solely depends on the amount of Bitcoin that we are talking about. If it's not a surprising amount, then you don't have to worry about anything at all.

[Lucius]

Mixer is a tool to make you stay anonymous, so assuming you did right and know what you're doing, how can someone able to know your location and knocking your door? you must be leave your identity somewhere and it's already kill the purpose of mixer.

There is a good thread about how it is not that difficult to break mixers in the sense that whoever has the knowledge, resources and time can connect the dots and come to the conclusion where something came from and where it went. Those who analyze blockchain today are already so successful in this that even mixers do not pose too much of a challenge. Anonymity online is something that is talked about a lot, but being completely anonymous online is a big illusion.

Using mixer will be expensive because the current regulations is full of KYC, so it's not gonna be easy to stay anonymous.

I don't think that using a mixer will be any more expensive than it is today, because they will continue to try to be competitive and attract as many clients as possible. The fact that they will no longer be present on this forum does not change too much their way of doing business.

[samuraijin]

Using mixer will be expensive because the current regulations is full of KYC, so it's not gonna be easy to stay anonymous.

You need KYC to use mixer?

I don't think so. The purpose of a mixer is to protect your privacy and identity or to make anonymous transaction. Now, if mixers required KYC on their customers then it's useless. If so, it is better to use directly on Centralized Exchanges than to waste your time and effort on mixers. Technically speaking, mixers wouldn't do that if they want to take care of their customers.

If ever all the mixers required KYC in the future then decentralized exchanges would be a good alternative.

I agree that this kind of thinking can be understood given the existing problems and it all comes back to the user. If it is used for bad purposes then it will be a crime, but if it is used for good purposes then as long as it is still positive it is legal, because you just want to avoid doing it. KYC I know that every exchange definitely requires a KYC process to make money transfers, the existence of Mixer is actually a little helpful for people who don't have identity or have lost their residence card and that is identical to the KYC process, so the existence of Mixer aims to help people who lost their identity, actually it was only individuals who did this and in the end a lot of speculation emerged..

This is just speculation, my thoughts are true or not, I don't know even if I use the ad..

[The Cryptovator]

You have to worry about using Mixer when you are using centralised platforms like exchange and wallet services. Binance is already spotting transactions related to mixers and asking to provide a source of funds. You may definitely face this kind of issue when using the mixing service. The forum didn't prevent you from discussing related mixers, but don't advise with mixer links or don't hint to use mixers. I think you have to find alternatives when you want to protect your privacy and hide your funds. We have to use swaps or decentralised exchanges to protect privacy. I feel it is better to avoid mixers since they are facing a lot of legal issues lately. Law enforcement agencies consider money laundering whoever uses mixers. So you would be one of them if law enforcement could detect you.

[Z-tight]

Anything to worry about if you use mixers and not doing anything illegal?

Yes, it is a custodial service, you lose custody of your coins during the mixing process, that is something to be worried about when sending your coins to a mixer. Use CoinJoin implementations if you want a privacy solution that is self custodial.

Will using mixers be an expensive?

I don't think there's any reason why they should become more expensive, they would charge the same service fee as they are doing now.

[boyptc]

Using mixers aren't illegal.

But you know that these secret agents/FBI themselves are closely eyeing into these services because of the money that's being mixed there from scams and hacks. Yes, if you do nothing illegal, there's nothing to worry about. Advertising it on starting January 1, 2024 are no longer allowed by the forum so it's just here.

If you want to use it for increased privacy, you're free to do so.