How easy is it to sell an account?

[Lucius]

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Has anyone been caught doing this? Because its worth giving a neutral tag over, replying yourself in the comments is abnormal behavior.

If you look in the Reputation board, you will surely find a lot of people who have been caught doing "illegal" things with their alt accounts. I often notice such behavior on the forum, especially when it comes to users from certain countries.

I tried to point out such behavior on one example that you can see here, but apart from me leaving neutral feedback, no one else felt it necessary to do anything. I believe that this only encourages others to do the same things, and it is no secret that some are ready to do anything for a few merits, and that includes talking to themselves.

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[EarnOnVictor]

Some people may see it as a normal thing that goes on in the Forum but I don't know why such should be allowed to go on but you guys at the top knows best.

Initially, it was off with me as well, but later, on second thought, I realised that allowing them to sell accounts is not a big deal. After all, it encourages the forum to remain active instead of people abandoning their accounts for so long. But sadly, so many people use that opportunity to farm accounts which is the ugly part of it. I believe that the management of the forum realizes that a username is just a username, anyone can control it, so long they contribute to the forum positively and write quality posts without disobeying the forum's rules. Even in companies and forums, who you thought the admin was might have been changed to another person over time, yet you still read the same username thinking it is the same person. So, there is no big deal here, it is what they post that matters.

Another thing about sell account is that after selling an account to a different user, why can't the username be changed so that if anything goes wrong it won't be said that it was the previous user that did what ever went wrong? Can't something like that be done since it seems like 65% of the Forum members are in support of it?

That is left to the user to decide, it is not a must though, and I know that a simple PM can help change that as we see in the forum that usernames are being changed. But the issue that many are not considering is that can't the buyer reclaim the account later by force since they still own the email used to open the account. Without changing the email, I think the account has not been effectively sold, it can still be hijacked. That's a risk to consider.

[BenCodie]

When I build an account

How many accounts have you "built" on this forum?

This is concerning. I know that people are allowed to have alt forum accounts, though I thought this was for the purpose of freedom of speech, so that you could express yourself without potentially effecting the reputation that you have spent time on building.

However, building, purposefully? Is this really something that is openly allowed and a norm on this forum (people purposefully building alt accounts)? What other reason could there possibly be for doing that in a pseudonymous way other than for profit? This has to be the most interesting comment I've read all day and I'm looking forward to seeing the responses to this post to learn more.

You are probably misunderstanding the whole situation. If you had paid more attention to the entire sentence, you would have realised I was just making an example rather than just quoting a few of the statements, making it sound as if it's a self-proclaimed word or confession, creating and seeing error where there is none.
 
It was an example like, if I am to do something today, create or develop a project, I do it in almost the same way as how I live my life, and if the account is to be handed over to another person, the account won't have the same value as it should have when it's being handled by me, who is the original creator and owner of the project or account in question. I don't see which part of this statement is so hard for anyone to understand.

You never used the word "if" when referring to your example/yourself, you also spoke definitely in the first person (not arguing with you, only telling you how I've read your post)

Here is the full quote, in bold what I am referring to:

People are willing to pay a higher amount on any account depending on how much they feel they can make with the account before the account gets boasted.
 
If it's an account that has a name on the forum and it's kind of like almost every manager wants to enrol in their campaign, then it will have a higher bid on them, and people will be willing to pay thousands of dollars for it because they know what they will earn from it.
 
But there is one thing that people fail to undertake about an account and the reason why they tag a sold account here. When I build an account, I build it based on how I want it to replicate me here, so if someone wants to hire the account for something, they are hiring it based on who they feel is behind the account, so if the account changes hands, then the account will no longer be worth what it was supposed to be worth.
 
You can sell an account, but you can't sell the brain behind it. If you can't maintain the idea the original owner had on that account, then the account might be half useless unless the change is not noticed on time.

Maybe it's just the way you write. If you read what is in bold, you will see that it reads that when you do something or other, etc....not "for example" or "I would think" or something like that. You are definitely talking in the first person with no indication to the reader that you were providing an example.

I agree with your overall point that without the same person, the account will probably be useless. That makes sense, and I see your overall point...I think that in your first post it just came across as if this is a normal activity.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Some people may see it as a normal thing that goes on in the Forum but I don't know why such should be allowed to go on but you guys at the top knows best.

Initially, it was off with me as well, but later, on second thought, I realised that allowing them to sell accounts is not a big deal. After all, it encourages the forum to remain active instead of people abandoning their accounts for so long. But sadly, so many people use that opportunity to farm accounts which is the ugly part of it. I believe that the management of the forum realizes that a username is just a username, anyone can control it, so long they contribute to the forum positively and write quality posts without disobeying the forum's rules. Even in companies and forums, who you thought the admin was might have been changed to another person over time, yet you still read the same username thinking it is the same person. So, there is no big deal here, it is what they post that matters.

There's nothing positive in selling account actually, is just the money but come to think of it, these guys that do sell account which we do call account farmers, how can they be traced? Since the Forum is aware of the act but not encouraging it?
Let's leave the quality post the users do drop, the main concern is how well can this person obey the rules and regulations of this Forum. Honestly it's not only what they post that matters, every factors to look into matters as well, there intentions.

That is left to the user to decide, it is not a must though, and I know that a simple PM can help change that as we see in the forum that usernames are being changed. But the issue that many are not considering is that can't the buyer reclaim the account later by force since they still own the email used to open the account. Without changing the email, I think the account has not been effectively sold, it can still be hijacked. That's a risk to consider.

If is possible to change the username (which I'm not sure of) then the email can be changed, infact the username should be the hardest to change like it's stocked but the email can be changed or let me say the password to the email. If the seller can't surrender every information concerning the account but he has already collected the money then that business is not a clean one.

[wallet4bitcoin]

Is there a way to safely buy/sell accounts? A dedicated auction site or something? How is the transaction done?

If you had written something like this a few years ago, it would have been enough for some DT members to paint your profile red - and even now if you ask such a question, it is a completely legitimate question why you are interested in it - and the only logical answer is that you might want to buy BTT account.

I don't know if you're just playing a beginner who wants to give the impression that he's interested in these kinds of things, or if you have a tactic that helped you get more merits in a very short period of time than some others in a few months.

I'm even shocked at the topic, one would not expect such a topic to still remain online days after posting it and the OP wouldn't go without a negative trust tagged on his account.

Just to be clear, account buying or selling is prohibited. It is honorable to grow your reputation over the years, to show that you merited it.
Such transactions should not be encouraged but frowned at.

[Apocollapse]

I'm more thinking of 21,000,001 Bitcoins. By then my account is worthless anyway.

Really? that's really cheap since 21,000,001 Bitcoins is worth $0.

I'm even shocked at the topic, one would not expect such a topic to still remain online days after posting it and the OP wouldn't go without a negative trust tagged on his account.

Why? if you think what did @OP did deserved to get negative feedback, you can leave it by yourself. Even you're not yet a DT member, it doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't leave a feedback.

[HONDACD125]

I was surprised to see that buying and selling accounts is not prohibited in this forum. But looking into it I only saw offers that looked like scams (based on the red alert that flags on top of them).

It is true that buying selling account is not directly prohibited but account DT  will be tag accounts for two reasons:
1: The seller couldn't be as trusted as the real owner and the chances of scamming is high, The reason why loan scam cases happened.

2: Account may be hacked.

So I'm wondering if there truly are account sellers. Or even buyers! Is this a liquid market? How much would someone pay on average for a M/Full M/Sr. M/Hero M/L account?

Possibly someone wants to leave Bitcointalk and he want to sell account but very few cases comes. Its hard to rank up account and I do not think after a such time spending and working on account anyone will be agree to sell his account cheaply. I don't know about other but I will not sell my account even if someone offer me to pay 1 Eth

[Samlucky O]

You can sell an account, but you can't sell the brain behind it. If you can't maintain the idea the original owner had on that account, then the account might be half useless unless the change is not noticed on time.

Yes you are very correct. our account is the reflection of who we are or what we think. and if anybody thinks of buying an account the person should also know that you can not buy the brain behind it. But one other thing there is that it depends on who the account goes to. If it goes to a less creative person, people will know what really happened. But if sold to an experience or highly skill and knowledgeable person the account will Excel more than the original owner, because people will think that the person has upgraded in knowledge.

I think the success of Every project is do to the master piece, being the brain behind it. And when you fail to understand that, then you choose to fail. That's why in some occasions they will chose to hire you than buying your company because they knew that if they buy the company without hirering you, the project will still be a waste. Just like Elon musk bought twitter thinking that twitter will continue the way it was without knowing that the reason behind the growth of twitter is the formal CEO.  Now twitter is falling from  $44billion to $19billionand now he has changed the name to space X and even planing to change the narrative of space x to gain more attention.

So sometime if you buy something from someone and the thing is not working as planed, you plan to restrategise in other to create another narrative. Now elon-musk-wants-your-entire-financial-life-on-x-report. who knows maybe his new narrative might bring back it original shape.

[EarnOnVictor]

You can sell an account, but you can't sell the brain behind it. If you can't maintain the idea the original owner had on that account, then the account might be half useless unless the change is not noticed on time.

Yes you are very correct. our account is the reflection of who we are or what we think. and if anybody thinks of buying an account the person should also know that you can not buy the brain behind it. But one other thing there is that it depends on who the account goes to. If it goes to a less creative person, people will know what really happened. But if sold to an experience or highly skill and knowledgeable person the account will Excel more than the original owner, because people will think that the person has upgraded in knowledge.
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Just don't go far, you don't need to quote Elon Musk and others as what you are saying might not be genuine with smart people. I for one, as I am, if I want to buy an account, I can only buy the ones that I know I can cope with, and that is wisdom. I wouldn't go for the account of a tech-savvy guy which I know I wouldn't be able to cope with since I am just moderate in that field.

But for other accounts whatsoever, I will be able to deal with them. I am just saying this so that you know that the remark of buying brain along with it doesn't matter. It is about the person buying the account, people are smarter and cunning than you think. Just as I am a natural psychologist, I will only study the character of the person using the account before, and that is it. Many are here on the forum that are smarter than this and with a whole lot of schemes and you will not even be able to differentiate them even from their alts.

Criminals are getting wiser daily. By the way, that's for those who have the time to operate such accounts. I see no reason why 1 account wouldn't be enough for people or why they would want to buy an account when they can build theirs with zero ($0) paid.

[SatoPrincess]

I for one, as I am, if I want to buy an account, I can only buy the ones that I know I can cope with, and that is wisdom. I wouldn't go for the account of a tech-savvy guy which I know I wouldn't be able to cope with since I am just moderate in that field.

Account farmers prefer to fly under the radar to avoid suspicions. When you do things that are unethical, you are bound to slip up and make a mistake one day. Posting habits and style is difficult to change and such patterns can be easily noticed by other members.

Criminals are getting wiser daily. By the way, that's for those who have the time to operate such accounts. I see no reason why 1 account wouldn't be enough for people or why they would want to buy an account when they can build theirs with zero ($0) paid.

Calling account buyers criminals is too much IMO. I think most people buy alts to increase the money they make from signature campaigns, only a few would buy an account to scam. As you know, scammers do not find it easy to succeed here so more often than not the goal is always to milk signature campaigns.

[UmerIdrees]

Possibly someone wants to leave Bitcointalk and he want to sell account but very few cases comes. Its hard to rank up account and I do not think after a such time spending and working on account anyone will be agree to sell his account cheaply. I don't know about other but I will not sell my account even if someone offer me to pay 1 Eth

Selling an bitcointalk account may be a money making oppurtity for the account farmers or even geuine single account holder who want to leave the forum forever, but the buyer who paid for that account will always be at the risk. The reason for this is becasue once the accoutn change hands, for sure, there will be change in the posting habits and other stuff.

Since everyone wantches every closely to the accounts, sooner or later it will be detected that the account change hands and it will be tagged, making it useless to join the signature campiagns (I assune anyone would buy account for the joining the Sig. Campaiagns and no other reason comes to my mind).