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December 20, 2023, 01:19:48 PM
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Continue to gamble and take a loan? For gamblers that are not new to gambling, it would be seen as a joke. But it should also not to be taken for a joke. Why would someone gamble to the extent it will get to taking a loan? That is an addiction already and nothing else.

Gambling should be without loan. Also gambling should be without 95% of the money you are earning. Even only 1% of the money that you are earning should be used to gamble is the recommendation.

If you use 1% to gamble and continue to lose, you have no loan to take and you have no difficulty to face.
Some of the gambling addicts we have today became addicts reading contents like the message in the picture story and which I think is bad. It's time we take responsibility of the kind of things we put out for public consumption as most of them have in one way or the other negatively affected humanity. Gambling is best practiced when one engages in it as a fun and not a source of income. Taking loans to gamble is absolutely unnecessary and the only people that does that are addicted gamblers. Why will someone be advised to take loans before they can gamble? How then can they pay back if they eventually lose the money to gambling.

Loans are taken by individuals and corporate organizations and are invested in to business ideas and gambling is not one of them so it's only when one is an addicted gambler than he can take loans to stake his games

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December 20, 2023, 01:20:44 PM
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Ok, anything that considers taking a loan as a form of support for their entertainment is addiction, period. Gambling is solely for entertainment (even if you entertain the idea that you can only win really), so if you start putting effort into trying to put it beyond that, it's not for entertainment anymore obviously. And if it's not, no matter how you put it or describe it, it's something that's ultimately bad for you and should be stopped immediately or improved if you can.

But hey, since it's a gc for friends it might just be a bit of a joke. But honestly? With that tone and sentence construction? I'd say you guys are far from friends really, more like a group of sport casinos/loaning group promoters.

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December 20, 2023, 01:28:43 PM
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This message is misleading because you have to take out a loan to bet, even if you say this is just a joke but never take it as an important message but rather a harsh warning that loans to bet are not very commensurate with the returns from betting.

I must say that gambling does not have to be with any loan, if you don't have money then stop for a while until your money is recovered, I don't even advise anyone to take a loan if it's not an emergency of any kind, whereas betting is just for fun then extra money should be played as the bet.

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December 20, 2023, 01:38:18 PM
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I don't see it as a message for fun, it could lead people to believe that pursuing gambling relentlessly is the key to winning. However, this is not the case. Rather than continuing to gamble and potentially accumulating debt, it's important to take a break after losing a certain amount of money. These words are reflective of addiction and should not be taken seriously by those seeking control over their gambling activities. Following this message and making gambling a mandatory activity every weekend will only lead to negative outcomes.

Unfortunately it is going to mislead some new comers in their midst because it is a WhatsApp group and not necessarily a P2P communication, so before a member that is astray from following their joke would voice out on his falling into what they have posted, it would have been a disaster for him. Therefore, it is better that they redirect their chat to the real advise on how to gamble and also have fun which is by a very reduced percentage in the stake and not to go borrow money when you have lost just to chase money not easy to recover.

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December 20, 2023, 01:51:10 PM
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Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.


Judging from the style of language, it's just a joke. is not an indication that he is addicted. Because the words in the picture, i can found it often in private and public chat groups. Maybe I need to remind those who read the message to think it is serious. because, the words "make a loan" are a trap that will make it difficult if you don't win anything in betting and do not prepare anything.

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December 20, 2023, 01:52:58 PM
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If there is one thing I will encourage it wouldn't be for someone to take a loan to gamble knowing too well what gambling could results at the later ends such is always resulting to gambling addiction because this is what that post is encouraging people inside excepts for those who knows their way about otherwise for a newbie or beginner who doesn't know their stands in gambling this could results to gambling addiction where it seems to be encouraging people to go borrow to gamble every week.
People should mind the kinds of group they belongs to because some of them might eventually ruined their entire life whereby causing a serious damage to them so please do not put to practice in taking loan to gamble as it's more riskier to involved oneself into that.


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 #27

Recreational gambling is fine, and choosing a specific day to do it isn't necessarily an addiction; it can be the exact opposite as well, which is proper management of your time and money. Making it mandatory though, sounds way too forced, like he HAS to gamble, it shouldn't be mandatory, only if you feel like to.

However, the image is not only misleading but completely out of context. How is gambling a means to generate wealth? I get that you can possibly multiply your earnings, but you can also lose an extravagant amount of money without too much hassle; it can happen in the blink of an eye. I also don't understand what's implied with staking, what does staking have to do here, and, worst of all, is it actually suggesting taking a loan for that purpose? Am I missing something?



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Looks to me like a message that you shouldn't allow in your group. Have fun and joke around yes, but someone might take this literal and the world we live in is full of literal snowflakes.

Most likely it is a joke post, but better to remove it and not feel bad later if someone took it literal and ruined their life with a gambling addiction.

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Whoever posted that or messaged that must be playing the sarcastic game. Cheesy
Well, I don't know him so I won't know. You are a group, you should've ask him.
Do remember those are the things that will bury you financially and worst, suicide because of the active loans in different banks. Gambling is supposed to be treated as entertainment but we also pursue to win as much as possible. Losing money feels like shit and we don't want that happening to us.
A goal to win but at the same time enjoy the added excitement that it will bring especially in the sports industry. It's not wrong to put a little bit of a bet, we don't have to be shy about it because no one will know.
"One game away." Yeah, until we made 1000 bets already and we are still one game away from a win. It's a never-ending "one-more bet", "the very last" and "the last of the last" until we find ourselves sinking with so many loans.

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December 20, 2023, 02:29:18 PM
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?
If what is being discussed in the WhatsApp group is about things like the ones I quoted below.

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Don't stop gambling You're one game away from generational wealth 💯 just keep staking! And if it cuts, take that loan and keep staking!! You literally cannot loose

It's really not a fun or addictive strategy, in my opinion it is more of a trap element, to keep playing with the lure of not losing and taking out loans, I'm sure that if I really obey the messages in the group, I'm very sure that losses await.

As far as I know, no matter what type of game there is no guarantee that someone will be 100%, especially if they have already lost at the start of the game, So be careful gambling with any persuasion, gamble with your own beliefs without third party advice, no one will be merciful if you lose in the game.

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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.
Firstly the taught of getting generational wealth gambling is a wrong taught which should be treated as a potential trait for addiction. It will be very foolish to hope on gambling to help you get wealth that will last through generations, the casino and bookies are looking to make wealth too so what makes you feel you stand a better chance.

That urge and drive to continually keep playing again with the mind set they you will win one day will definitely lead to ruined, you may end up never winning because you are just blindly playing and been so dependent on hope alone which can definitely not give you the generational wealth you intend to get gambling but will rather get you into addiction gambling shouldn't be done basically to get a fortune but if you are been favoured by the odds then celebrate your good days and do not think that gambling will get you rich, it's very unlikely.

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December 20, 2023, 02:49:12 PM
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Lmao i don't recommend to take loan and just to gamble, this can ruined your life entirely even you had a group chat and giving signals to one another is not recommended if you say you won that day and the other day it will become addictive in the end you'll just losing money , when you take a loan its like your 1 foot is in soil already, so for me this kind of message from your group chat is misleading or worse but depends on you if you had that much money to gamble why not.
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December 20, 2023, 02:50:26 PM
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Hard to understand words, as it can be something real but it can be sarcastic message as well at the same time.
I myself consider that message as sarcasm, because sometime people are not listening when they get a serious advice and some time sarcasm can be something that make people think about something rationally.
I would say the message is not both fun or addiction, because I do not know who is the one who write the message.
Maybe we may know better if we know the one behind the message personally.

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First the message is very wrong. I know that this may be them joking around but then gambling addiction is not something that should be joked with or taken lightly.

From my estimation, I think that these guys in the WhatsApp group are not addicted. They are only doing it for the fun of it. By the way, who provides the reward money. Secondly, since it is not profit making venture we cannot say it is an actual gambling.

Joking in gambling discussions is not a wise thing, I really don't like the message sent by OP's colleague as in the screenshot, it's ok when everyone in the group isn't a regular gambler, but what if someone is already addicted? the person will definitely take the message as a suggestion and will most likely become a problem gambler.

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December 20, 2023, 03:04:09 PM
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On a personal level I see it to be a joke because where am from sometimes we don't get advise directly, it comes the opposite way, e.g Churchill use a the money I kept in the bank and gamble... Don't stop gambling untill the money finishes. To a normal person it's reads the normal understanding but for us over here it's either a warning that do not touch the money in the bank for any reason or for gambling sake.

And exactly that is how I feel the message was presented in the group as a warning from the opposite view that you shouldn't get addicted to gambling.

But instead of getting further reaction that might lead to regret it shouldn't be published to a group where gamblers  converse.

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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.



For beginners, the quote seems like something that is sarcastic, and it could as well make them look like desperate people if they apply it entirely without caution, of course it is believed that every gambler is one step away in making generational wealth, but taking a loan for gambling, it's something i wouldn't recommend, it is good to only gamble with what you can afford to lose not going to take loan because loan is subject to repayment, so what if you don't win because as a gambler is not every game that you will win, how do you repay your loan if you haven't won any game.

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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.

Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.



Can't call that addiction unless you see that guy suffering from mental and financial loss. At that stage maybe he is playing around or trolling then want to have fun with people reading his message so don't take it more badly since as long as you know the consequences of your action and you will not listen to anyone especially on this kind of messages then you are fine. Then maybe try to be humorous to and reply to him some nasty words about what he just said for sure both of you will get a lot of fun especially if he can catch up with your joke.

Also for sure your friends doesn't take that message seriously since provably same as you they are also a experience bettor since as you said they gamble every weekend so for sure they know the consequences of what they possibly to happen if they commit huge mistakes on their hobby.

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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.
Some people might take it as fun, but some people might be addicted to gambling through it. Some people who are addicted to gambling don't even know about their addiction, they will think they are just gambling for fun, but they are addicted to gambling. Some people in the group might not be addicted, and some of them will be addicted to gambling. There is a statement that I see in the picture that you posted which is, take a loan and keep on staking. It does not really make sense to me.


Why will you take a loan and keep on staking? It's really wrong, even if it's a joke, things like that shouldn't be joked with, someone might end up seeing it and they might think you are serious, taking a loan to gamble is completely wrong, gambling shouldn't be a do-or-die affair, if you are losing and you already exceeded the amount you will be gambling with, then the best thing to do is just stop gambling, you shouldn't even think about taking a loan to gamble, it's kind of crazy to me.

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For me, it's having fun as the stake involved is something that everyone can afford to lose, it may be safe from the looks of it but we don't know what its impact is on every participant, they may be having fun but after the group parted ways some of them will play on other platforms to fulfill their hunger for gambling because they already tasted the excitement and the rewards of betting, but the bottom line always is as long as they are not adding more than what they agreed, in this case, a subscription there's no problem and the group is just having fun.

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If you look at the text on the sign then this is more addictive than fun, just look at the message they say by taking out a loan then you say obliging bets every week then this is certainly addictive because for fun you are free at any time to bet without having to target a certain time.

I don't know if this is a regular joke like you said or just a moral message to keep betting? Basically taking a loan to trade is not recommended let alone a loan to gamble is certainly not recommended, this is my own perspective because other people's judgment is always different even though taking a loan is a good move.

So gambling as much as possible should be with small money, then this will not be a burden for you.

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