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Author Topic: What's your view on this? Is it fun or addiction?  (Read 2009 times)
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December 21, 2023, 01:47:05 AM
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?
It's funny actually, to tease people to keep gambling to get that generational wealth.
But the moment people realize that they already take a loan just to gamble is not funny anymore lmao. This will be a few steps to get an addiction award.

stupid move in my opinion. After all, why take out a loan to gamble when there is no guarantee of profit. Even though gambling started out as entertainment, when people become too addicted to gambling they will do anything to get money and gamble. have become addicts and become loan takers and it will create very serious problems when they cannot pay the loan and money is lost in gambling. Do gambling according to your abilities and it's better if it's just entertainment.

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December 21, 2023, 02:06:28 AM
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There's no way to know whether this is just a joke or a serious advice. It could actually be simply sarcasm. We don't know what context this was posted.

However it seems the obvious exaggeration in the statement means it isn't really a serious statement. You don't take it as it is, literally. It seems it is for fun. The first line itself is clearly not serious. It's an ironic statement to remind the members of the opposite, that you can't just continue gambling and lose everything to the point that you need to take a loan to place more bets.
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December 21, 2023, 02:23:20 AM
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That's just a sarcasm or a meme where they reverse good advice to make fun of the people that are needing that advice. And my view on this is that it's just a fun stuff that OP's friend are sharing in their gambling group because they all are in it on the joke and it might seem weird to outsider since there's no context behind but smart people can just imply what's happening. It's not deep joke that it will pass so many heads and don't get it so I think that we're just overthinking stuff too much because we want an explanation.-
There's no way to know whether this is just a joke or a serious advice. It could actually be simply sarcasm. We don't know what context this was posted.
There's a way to know, it just so happens that it's subjective until context is provided by OP. There's a context sort of that's been provided, that this was posted in the groupchat of OP and they mostly talk there about gambling.
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December 21, 2023, 04:13:26 AM
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Its like the picture shown saying is "gamble or bet even if you don't have money, loan and loan until you win." That we know is not the case. Taking a loan to be used for gambling or betting is the worst because you only make things worse. At that point, it is not fun anymore; it is more like a suicide, not even an addiction. Imagine you having no more money, then keep on loaning and loaning just to hope that you will win someday, which will make you more broke, and worst case, you might encounter more problems beyond gambling addiction. You see, a loan is a very dangerous thing. What if the app or person you ask for a loan could take precautions and threaten you so you will pay your debt?

If in this phase you will say or someone will say that it is fun, then you are crazy. How could you have fun if you know you have loans to pay and keep on losing money because of your friends hobbies? No, it is not, and it will never be fun at all.

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December 21, 2023, 04:54:45 AM
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I feel like this was kind of inside joke within a social group so I don't think it is something worrying. Many people use WhatsApp groups to talk about sports betting in my country. Especially university students are doing this. They keep sending their potential bets to each other, regularly check odds to find perfect ones, and sometimes I see there are jokes running in chat. Gambling addiction is something totally different in my opinion, people are just having fun there. Male gambler groups are truly hilarious.
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December 21, 2023, 05:26:15 AM
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

or something like fooling? because in all senses we cannot see truthfulness in this photo instead it is either stupidity to believe or allowing your self to be fooled.

and also that is a common word of Addicted gambler , who always believe that this is the last chance to win but doing it over and over again.


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December 21, 2023, 06:00:50 AM
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.

The individual that dropped the picture in the group chat might be playing and just dropped it there to see the reaction of the members of the group. He mightn't believe what they wrote on the picture but some individuals in the group will see this image and believe them. Newbies that only started gambling recently will see this message and think that's what others are doing and begins to gamble frequently therefore becomes addicted.

The image can be fun to some gamblings.that understand how gambling works and knows, you don't have certainty that you'll win when you're gambling but it'll be an addiction to those set of gambling that think they can get profits everytime they play bets. There are two outcome from gamble, you can gamble occasionally and have fun while also making profits and gamble everyday yet you don't make money.



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December 21, 2023, 07:13:55 AM
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It starts with a compulsion from circumstances and then becomes something that is forced to do until in the end they get used to it and feel that something is missing if they don't do gambling activities. The environment is really one of the factors that has a big influence on  human change, especially in terms of habits and behavior, maybe you are a little confused about whether you should follow the habits that exist in your environment or avoid it with the consequences of ridicule or ridicule from some of your friends who are also certainly one who also has a role in these activities.

I think as long as you and  some of your friends can maintain the comfort and safety of the gambling activities that you do then I think there is nothing wrong if you continue to engage in these  activities along with some of your friends on weekends, but on the other hand if you feel that slowly your money is getting eroded and experiencing some decline then obviously at least you have to reduce these activities a little, especially in terms of money allocation and also of course by taking a little time to rest because after all the possible risks cannot be completely avoided, especially addiction.
That's what makes this compulsion become a new habit for them. When they miss it even once, they will regret it and make a schedule to follow it the following week. They will make sure to bet together with other friends so that they don't have any regrets even though, in the end, they will lose. This habit must be controlled so that it does not become excessive and becomes deeper into gambling and ultimately becomes a gambling addiction.

That means we have to have good self-control so we can enjoy gambling activities with our friends. We must not lose self-control, which could cause us to gamble excessively, disrupting our financial position. We can feel closer friendship by gathering with these friends, especially since we always attend the event. Only with good self-control can we avoid problems outside of the event and ensure we can do it. But if we feel uncomfortable using our money to bet, we can also reduce joint gambling activities and we can tell the truth to our friends.

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December 21, 2023, 07:40:49 AM
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Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.


Enjoying in gambling is right , but we also expect to win at all time though can accept being a loser after that .

The most important thing is not to miss out when you have fun with gambling. Gambling does have a tremendous effect on us becoming addicted.
The hope of winning certainly exists in every gambler, but gamblers must know when they are out and when they will continue playing. It's not an easy matter, especially if we play with the people around us. it won't stop you until you are completely exhausted.









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December 21, 2023, 08:05:52 AM
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Continue to gamble and take a loan? For gamblers that are not new to gambling, it would be seen as a joke. But it should also not to be taken for a joke. Why would someone gamble to the extent it will get to taking a loan? That is an addiction already and nothing else.

Gambling should be without loan. Also gambling should be without 95% of the money you are earning. Even only 1% of the money that you are earning should be used to gamble is the recommendation.

If you use 1% to gamble and continue to lose, you have no loan to take and you have no difficulty to face.

An act that is really not recommended, it is true that for people who have been involved in gambling for a long time they will consider it a joke because honestly I myself admit that it is really ridiculous, taking a loan just to gamble, I'm not sure why people who have been involved for a long time think it's a joke because they already know the dangers of gambling using borrowed money, there have been many examples and one of my friends became a victim of debt, so it's a joke to me but maybe for other gamblers, especially beginners, maybe the loan will be used as an alternative when they run out of money.

What you said is always recommended and what should be considered especially for those beginners who do not know much about the adverse effects of gambling, so putting the smallest budget amount or the intention that they can be responsible for is really recommended. I think this is one of the main points that all gamblers should pay attention to, because obviously the inability to accept loss and then emotion is the starting point for various bad possibilities to occur, such as putting a large amount for a big win but finally losing and you will get emotional and then after that you will act out of control and finally the amount of loss is even greater.
Whether it's just a joke or not, words like that shouldn't be thrown around so easily, maybe for those who are easily influenced they will deepen their role in gambling and bet large amount because they may think that luck will always be there if they don't stop gambling and keep trying to bet until they get the expected profit, and maybe there are those who are determined to take out a loan if the money they use runs out. This will of course put them at risky of addiction because they are too chasing their ambition to make a profits.

Yes it is an important step for gamblers if they don't want to experience big losses it is better to use small amounts of money and use it to get lucky but if you don't get lucky stop immediately and don't try to deposit money again and again because it will cause you The more it gets out of controls and you will experience big losses without you realizing it early.

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December 21, 2023, 08:13:34 AM
 #111

Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?
It could be that this is a satire to gamblers who cannot control themselves by continuing to gamble and when there is no money they take loans because they are always filled with the desire to gamble, but the person who made the picture is the one who best understands the meaning and purpose of making words like that.
Continuing to gamble using borrowed money is a big mistake, the opportunity to win is always there, but so is the opportunity to lose, no matter how confident we are in our betting choices, there is a chance of losing because there are many things that happen to athletes or teams that we don't know about so that the match goes on not according to predictions, but when the bettor continues to bet with the belief that he will win and still uses money that he can afford to lose then it is not a problem because everyone has the right to use his money to fulfill his desires as long as it is within his means.

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December 21, 2023, 08:26:45 AM
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This is clearly motivating addiction most especially to those begginer gamblers who are not totally exposed to the gambling world. They would certainly think that it's okay to lose and gamble again, and when your capital is already used up, it's okay to take a debt because the more you gamble, the higher chances of attaining wealth.

This is obviously crossing the concept of gambling. Just gamble to make fun and just bet on the amount you can afford to lose. Once used up, stop gambling and go home immediately. With that, you will never encounter problems in gambling.
Addiction would really be something pertains into those activities which it is already too much than on usual but since this had become their daily hobby or thing then i dont see something wrong with this.
They are betting on things which arent really talking basically on money but on other bets that they are making. It is quite that evident that it is also really just that for fun.
It is really that good to gamble out together with your friends or co-workers into your free times. As long you arent that compromising your daily budget or money
then i dont see anything wrong with this. It is really just that we are just that too judgmental into those people who do engage to gambling.

Society has ill feelings about gambling and spreads bad publicity around their environment, due to the mistakes of compulsive gamblers to their homes and society; wasting money meant for the growth of the family and society on gambling. This has caused most families to suffer financially and are not able to recover after a long time treating an addicted gambler in their midst. Hence, it'll be difficult for that narrative to change, most families now have rules that wouldn't let any member of them associate with a gambler, responsible or irresponsible. However, they wouldn't see the importance of gambling as they'll think of it as a total waste of time and money, coupled with the damages it encrypted in their memory. Aside from that, gambling is a good way of relaxation and what Op and friends are doing is quite good and rewarding. Especially if they focused on discussing responsible gambling and helping each other not to become a victim of addiction.

But, from what I saw in the meme or photo he shared, they could be consistently sharing ideas, jokingly, that could lead to compulsive gambling. Moreover, friends can easily influence each other, and one person may want to appear different or impress his friends and then make the mistake of taking a loan to gamble. Their predictions are great and worth the reward for the winner, but naive players in the group can depend on those predictions as a means of generating predicting ideas, which could be wrong. Because, a member was right the previous week doesn't mean his prediction would be right the next weekend. All forms of gambling require money and time. It's only a matter of time a gambler who wagers a small amount could decide to put more money to earn big. Maybe when pushed by the decisions of friends in similar groups, or seeing that a member has won quite big in gambling. Those deficiencies they should hold on to and stop in the group and help their members to be careful in gambling and stay clear from being indebted.

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December 21, 2023, 09:48:20 AM
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?
It could be that this is a satire to gamblers who cannot control themselves by continuing to gamble and when there is no money they take loans because they are always filled with the desire to gamble, but the person who made the picture is the one who best understands the meaning and purpose of making words like that.
Continuing to gamble using borrowed money is a big mistake, the opportunity to win is always there, but so is the opportunity to lose, no matter how confident we are in our betting choices, there is a chance of losing because there are many things that happen to athletes or teams that we don't know about so that the match goes on not according to predictions, but when the bettor continues to bet with the belief that he will win and still uses money that he can afford to lose then it is not a problem because everyone has the right to use his money to fulfill his desires as long as it is within his means.

Exactly! to the person who made that kind of post, I don't know if it is a sarcastic way of telling that people should stop gambling or it's just a normal post who invites other people to gamble more something like that. We know that even if you're a lucky person, there's stil no guarantee of 100% winnings and losses, so having a loan and using it for gambling is indeed a big risk to a person's life, It will cause them a wrecked and miserable life once did not win unless that person has a stable income and has a collateral for his/her debt.



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December 21, 2023, 10:31:21 AM
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That's not a good advice, it only encourages gambling addiction, don't take loan for gambling, it's a ridiculous way to become a good gambler, I use the smallest percentage of my income on gambling and I have lost it all, countless of times, if I have used a lot more I would have lost it all, gambling is not that safe and you will find out sooner enough if you think I am wrong.

Taking a loan or borrowing money is even worse, because you will be left in debt to pay up, if the money was all yours it would have been your loss anyway and you will find how to move but debt? It will affect you in folds, to get yourself will be tough because after paying up finally you still need to solve your own issue of not having anything.

I will never encourage anyone to borrow money for gambling, and to be a better gambler its good you have a job or any source of income, then make sure you use a small percentage to gamble, if anyone tells you that you will win on your first games it's very unlikely, don't compare yourself to others.

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December 21, 2023, 10:34:00 AM
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One  Game away - what if after 10 games you still don't win ? meaning another one game?

One  Game away - this is what said by addicted gamblers in their desperation when they run out of funds.

One  Game away - Said by losers that wanted to share his way of losing to others

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December 21, 2023, 11:05:04 AM
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The message is very obvious, trying to fool gamblers.
I see it s a way to encourage gamblers to lose but telling them otherwise that it is foolishness. Gamble again and again and lose again and again. Leading to borrowing and a miserable life. A wise gambler can easily decipher that to know it is a doom sentence for gamblers that if they continue to gamble, they will continue lose. After loan, what next? Depression and feeling of killing oneself. It is good to gamble with very tiny amount of money that we can lose and not think about.
Losing is fine, that's normal in gambling. However, borrowing, that's like digging your own grave because it's already out of principle anymore, I mean that simply means we can't afford what we are doing the reason why we borrow.

Borrowing are only good if you have emergencies, at least for basic needs, and also you can borrow to start a business, it's kinda risky too like gambling but at least it's not based on luck because you have the skills and you trust on it to generate money for you.

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December 21, 2023, 11:27:01 AM
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

This may be a joke because this is too much, and if truly this person is doing what he posted, then we can say it is addiction because anything that will make a gambler lose money and continue gambling to the extent of taking out a loan to gamble, I think that is addiction, and he has already gone far in gambling. I don’t think this person will stop gambling again. Any gambler who can borrow to gamble that is not for fun anymore If it’s for fun, he would have stopped if he didn’t get money to stake another game. But since he is already addicted, you can see that if he doesn’t have money to gamble, he will take out loans just to derive pleasure.

 
However, this kind of thing isn't supposed to be posted publicly; new gamblers will take it seriously. Although gambling can be a good way to make money, we shouldn’t rely on it. So new gamblers may decide to take this type of step in gambling even if they are losing just to make money. Borrowing money to gamble is totally bad. If you don’t have money, don’t gamble. When you do, allocate some of it for your gambling activities, and the rest should be used for other necessary things that will have a positive impact on your life.

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December 21, 2023, 11:29:53 AM
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IMO. That's a bad message. Gamblers who have been gambling for a long time will laugh at the message and say to themselves that someone is fooling other people through the messages sent.
Beginner gamblers who are still actively thinking will not agree to carry out messages like that because this is clearly an invitation to become poor, not an invitation to make gambling a pleasure.

In gambling, playing without debt is the most enjoyable thing so that winning and losing will not be a burden for gambling players.
Winning will make you happy, losing will definitely happen in the game.

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December 21, 2023, 11:33:49 AM
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We need to take caution and exercise restraints about what we post on the internet and even what we consume on the internet. The have to power to capture and confuse our psychology. It could make those who are addicted more addicted and it could also discourage those who want to.

The OP should talk about this in his department WhatsApp. There should be a warning message for all to take responsibility.
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December 21, 2023, 11:54:17 AM
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.
What he says here completely implies that he is deeply addicted to gambling and giving financial advice to others.  Or maybe he lost something and won something big, which is why he's acting like this, otherwise he's joking.  Gambling is very risky, so you should never make a loan or deposit here. There is no guarantee that you will win big while losing because you have to bet big to win big.  So you can place big bets and there is no guarantee that you will win them, so it is better to stay away from these risks and only bet as much as you can afford to lose.
Well from my own perspective if the gambler continue to gamble responsibly that isn't an addiction and should continue as long as they gamble with the amount of they can afford to lose, however they shouldn't go at the length of borrowing or obtaining a loan to gamble if done that is absolutely irresponsibility, of course that message posted on the WhatsApp group isn't a joke therefore it's the responsibility of each member of that group to use their initiative in deciding what to do with that advice and I am very sure almost all the members of the group wouldn't take that advice seriously as stated there because gambling responsibly won't provide or create a generational wealth rather provides extra source of income.

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