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December 21, 2023, 12:13:41 PM
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There's no way to know whether this is just a joke or a serious advice. It could actually be simply sarcasm. We don't know what context this was posted.

However it seems the obvious exaggeration in the statement means it isn't really a serious statement. You don't take it as it is, literally. It seems it is for fun. The first line itself is clearly not serious. It's an ironic statement to remind the members of the opposite, that you can't just continue gambling and lose everything to the point that you need to take a loan to place more bets.
I find it as a joke. A gambler will never be that stupid to follow that (joke) advice. The message also tells us something -- gambling is just for fun, and nothing has to be serious about this, or else, this will lead us to take loans and our lives miserable. If we are into gambling, we make sure that we have nothing to regret when losing instead, accept the fact that we are not lucky today and stop, maybe the next, and come back again.

If we understand how gambling works, we don't need to be emotional. And avoid chasing our losses in order to avoid more losses.

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December 21, 2023, 12:23:41 PM
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.



This kind of quote can best be presented by a gambling company. Looking at it intrinsically, you'll notice that it has an underlying tone of "profit for the casinos" but if it isn't from the casinos or gambling companies then whoever came up with it is either someone who has won a bet or a game or someone who is addicted to gambling.

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December 21, 2023, 12:49:47 PM
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That's not a good advice, it only encourages gambling addiction, don't take loan for gambling, it's a ridiculous way to become a good gambler, I use the smallest percentage of my income on gambling and I have lost it all, countless of times, if I have used a lot more I would have lost it all, gambling is not that safe and you will find out sooner enough if you think I am wrong.

Taking a loan or borrowing money is even worse, because you will be left in debt to pay up, if the money was all yours it would have been your loss anyway and you will find how to move but debt? It will affect you in folds, to get yourself will be tough because after paying up finally you still need to solve your own issue of not having anything.

I will never encourage anyone to borrow money for gambling, and to be a better gambler its good you have a job or any source of income, then make sure you use a small percentage to gamble, if anyone tells you that you will win on your first games it's very unlikely, don't compare yourself to others.

That's right, don't take a loan to gamble because it's not a solution to the losses that have occurred, those who lose by gambling and take action to take a loan to gamble again is the wrong decision, there is no guarantee that they will win by taking out a loan. Maybe that is the stupidest act that gamblers do, because they are addicted to gambling so it is natural that they do many things to get money and to gamble again. it's just that it will only make them difficult in the future by living in debt, it will make it difficult for them every day, because there are more responsibilities that they have to think about, especially if they don't work but they are addicted to gambling and taking out loans to be able to gamble is a deliberate problem. invited. However, if you really want to gamble, you should use personal money or bonus money so as not to interfere with your basic financial needs.

That's right, it will be difficult to solve everything if they are already in a lot of debt, and maybe their lives will be ruined by taking actions that are at great risk to themselves. because it is very rare for people who have debt to pay it, especially gamblers, even if they win, I don't think they will pay off their debt, instead they will gamble again to get a bigger win. taking a loan to gamble is a very wrong action.

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December 21, 2023, 02:23:52 PM
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Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.
Judging from the style of language, it's just a joke. is not an indication that he is addicted. Because the words in the picture, i can found it often in private and public chat groups. Maybe I need to remind those who read the message to think it is serious. because, the words "make a loan" are a trap that will make it difficult if you don't win anything in betting and do not prepare anything.
Hell yeah. It's so obvious, lol. But, it's also possible that the one who send that message are addicted to gambling. We don't know, maybe he wants the people in the group to be like him? I don't find that word often in the groups (private or public) but I think I already heard the first sentence in the pic.

There is only a slight difference on the way they wrote it but the point of the message are the same. If I remember it goes like this "gamblers stops, when they are close to hitting the jackpot ". When it comes to gambling loans, the only way I know that gamblers will make a loan, is if they gather a legit insider info about a match that is going to get fixed/manipulated. As that is sure than the others.

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December 21, 2023, 02:29:54 PM
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.
What he says here completely implies that he is deeply addicted to gambling and giving financial advice to others.  Or maybe he lost something and won something big, which is why he's acting like this, otherwise he's joking.  Gambling is very risky, so you should never make a loan or deposit here. There is no guarantee that you will win big while losing because you have to bet big to win big.  So you can place big bets and there is no guarantee that you will win them, so it is better to stay away from these risks and only bet as much as you can afford to lose.
Well from my own perspective if the gambler continue to gamble responsibly that isn't an addiction and should continue as long as they gamble with the amount of they can afford to lose, however they shouldn't go at the length of borrowing or obtaining a loan to gamble if done that is absolutely irresponsibility, of course that message posted on the WhatsApp group isn't a joke therefore it's the responsibility of each member of that group to use their initiative in deciding what to do with that advice and I am very sure almost all the members of the group wouldn't take that advice seriously as stated there because gambling responsibly won't provide or create a generational wealth rather provides extra source of income.
Gambling with the amount you can afford to lose won't make you deeply addicted and it's nothing but fun.  But when you spend more money on gambling than you can afford it will lead to many bad experiences for you and at one point you will play in a deep addiction from which you will not be able to come out.  The way op posted the screenshot doesn't sound like the person who posted it is in their normal behavior.  So I think he might be deeply addicted to gambling



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December 21, 2023, 02:43:42 PM
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.



This kind of quote can best be presented by a gambling company. Looking at it intrinsically, you'll notice that it has an underlying tone of "profit for the casinos" but if it isn't from the casinos or gambling companies then whoever came up with it is either someone who has won a bet or a game or someone who is addicted to gambling.

And what we need to be careful of is that we should not be easily tempted by interesting things in gambling, like the example above, in my opinion this is a trap or attraction for gamblers that they will win, so don't stop gambling. Then what about the results if we carry out these orders, will we really win? that's still questionable.

And what is certain is that when we gamble we must always be careful, it's a good idea for us to carefully research and understand every quote or post that we think is still very doubtful, so that we don't experience new losses and problems when gambling.

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December 21, 2023, 02:47:27 PM
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That's not a good advice, it only encourages gambling addiction, don't take loan for gambling, it's a ridiculous way to become a good gambler, I use the smallest percentage of my income on gambling and I have lost it all, countless of times, if I have used a lot more I would have lost it all, gambling is not that safe and you will find out sooner enough if you think I am wrong.

Taking a loan or borrowing money is even worse, because you will be left in debt to pay up, if the money was all yours it would have been your loss anyway and you will find how to move but debt? It will affect you in folds, to get yourself will be tough because after paying up finally you still need to solve your own issue of not having anything.

I will never encourage anyone to borrow money for gambling, and to be a better gambler its good you have a job or any source of income, then make sure you use a small percentage to gamble, if anyone tells you that you will win on your first games it's very unlikely, don't compare yourself to others.

That's right, don't take a loan to gamble because it's not a solution to the losses that have occurred, those who lose by gambling and take action to take a loan to gamble again is the wrong decision, there is no guarantee that they will win by taking out a loan. Maybe that is the stupidest act that gamblers do, because they are addicted to gambling so it is natural that they do many things to get money and to gamble again. it's just that it will only make them difficult in the future by living in debt, it will make it difficult for them every day, because there are more responsibilities that they have to think about, especially if they don't work but they are addicted to gambling and taking out loans to be able to gamble is a deliberate problem. invited. However, if you really want to gamble, you should use personal money or bonus money so as not to interfere with your basic financial needs.

That's right, it will be difficult to solve everything if they are already in a lot of debt, and maybe their lives will be ruined by taking actions that are at great risk to themselves. because it is very rare for people who have debt to pay it, especially gamblers, even if they win, I don't think they will pay off their debt, instead they will gamble again to get a bigger win. taking a loan to gamble is a very wrong action.
Gambling with a loan? This is wrong and financially suicide. Any intelligent person knows that gambling is a risk, although a calculated one. Borrowing money increases your risk and plunges you into a financial pit. Discuss addiction. The monster whispers the next great win. However, we realize that win is a mere illusion. Gamble, lose, borrow, repeat—despair. As debt mounts, what do you have? An ocean of regret and a bank account begging for mercy.

If you want to gamble, fine. Use your own fun budget. But with borrowed money? A one-way ticket to Ruinsville. Though financial ruin is a major factor, it's not everything. The mental toll, tension, and worry. Getting up every day knowing you owe money you kind of wasted? Constant tension and regret are a nightmare. Remember the effects on relationships, careers, and life. Gambling with borrowed money is a whole different tragedy than with your own. Avoid the loan shark's bait and be savvy.

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December 21, 2023, 02:50:54 PM
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Gambling with the amount you can afford to lose won't make you deeply addicted and it's nothing but fun.  But when you spend more money on gambling than you can afford it will lead to many bad experiences for you and at one point you will play in a deep addiction from which you will not be able to come out. 

For me, it borders on criminal. Recommending non-stop gambling to people selling them that they are going to win generational wealth can only be taken as a joke because if it is serious it is totally delusional and asking for loans for gambling in the same context should not even be said as a joke.

The way op posted the screenshot doesn't sound like the person who posted it is in their normal behavior.  So I think he might be deeply addicted to gambling

I think that is the only way that what is written has a pass, that he is hooked and sick in the head, so what he needs is psychological help.

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December 21, 2023, 02:56:41 PM
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It depends on how each individual sees that. Your friends and colleagues in the group chat can tell if they are addicted to what you guys do every weekend or if they just do it for fun and it wouldn't affect them or their mind if they stop doing it. Sports betting in general isn't as addictive as gambling games, and  if one is only doing it once a week or maybe twice or thrice a week just to have some fun, that wouldn't have that big of an impact on them and their life.

However, if the ones who are participating in this are taking it way too seriously like everyone is trying to win at any cost, they are getting rude to each other and having personal grudges because of it, the friendliness is turning into enmity, then I would say it is turning into something bad and we can't call that being fun.

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December 21, 2023, 02:58:21 PM
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I take it as a sarcasm, not sure how you take that message, I guess you think it's serious.

The reason why I think it's sarcasm since your friend suggest to take a loan for gambling which is obviously stupid, some of my friends making fun with such jokes too. Maybe you could keep watching your friend about what he do and what his life in the next month, if nothing bad happen then your friends aren't taking out a loan to gamble.

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December 21, 2023, 03:50:49 PM
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It's obvious sarcasm for the group. Who in their right mind would behave in such a way? It's like a recurring joke for the group to avoid irresponsible gambling behavior. If your friends have made it a mandatory activity to gamble every weekend because of a game or chat, then it's important to remind them to gamble responsibly. As a friend, it's your responsibility to ensure they are not engaging in harmful behavior. The individual who initiated the score prediction game does so to bring joy to your group chats.
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It starts with a compulsion from circumstances and then becomes something that is forced to do until in the end they get used to it and feel that something is missing if they don't do gambling activities. The environment is really one of the factors that has a big influence on  human change, especially in terms of habits and behavior, maybe you are a little confused about whether you should follow the habits that exist in your environment or avoid it with the consequences of ridicule or ridicule from some of your friends who are also certainly one who also has a role in these activities.

I think as long as you and  some of your friends can maintain the comfort and safety of the gambling activities that you do then I think there is nothing wrong if you continue to engage in these  activities along with some of your friends on weekends, but on the other hand if you feel that slowly your money is getting eroded and experiencing some decline then obviously at least you have to reduce these activities a little, especially in terms of money allocation and also of course by taking a little time to rest because after all the possible risks cannot be completely avoided, especially addiction.
That's what makes this compulsion become a new habit for them. When they miss it even once, they will regret it and make a schedule to follow it the following week. They will make sure to bet together with other friends so that they don't have any regrets even though, in the end, they will lose. This habit must be controlled so that it does not become excessive and becomes deeper into gambling and ultimately becomes a gambling addiction.

That means we have to have good self-control so we can enjoy gambling activities with our friends. We must not lose self-control, which could cause us to gamble excessively, disrupting our financial position. We can feel closer friendship by gathering with these friends, especially since we always attend the event. Only with good self-control can we avoid problems outside of the event and ensure we can do it. But if we feel uncomfortable using our money to bet, we can also reduce joint gambling activities and we can tell the truth to our friends.

Basically, I think that if the involvement is still within reasonable limits, which means that it does not cause too many financial problems for him, then I think there is nothing wrong if the activity has really become a habit in his environment, but the problem may be that this situation is quite worrying because after all, something that is uncontrollable is always unpredictable, or it means that there may be times when one of those who try occasionally acts aggressively and excessively. That's right, this situation does need to be watched and controlled well so that all involved don't end up addicted.

One of the things that can be done is maybe I hope there is one of them who always reminds them about the dangers of addiction or even better to remind each other so that they can keep their awareness so as not to overdo it. On the other hand, the fact that losing control and forgetting some of the boundaries they have made before are still very likely to happen as I said above when they are really tempted by something they see. So in my opinion what is better is if they can better find other activities on weekends such as going to one of the entertainment venues or the gym and get used to it slowly, because after all in my opinion gambling is an activity that inevitably has to use money and the risk of losing is always lurking.


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December 21, 2023, 04:16:24 PM
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Gambling should not be the highest priority in life. Moreover, having to use money from a loan to gamble is the same as risking your whole life.
But it seems like this is sarcastic language for your friend who is addicted to gambling. Because whatever it is, you have to gamble happily, without using all your funds.
What is written is really stupid advice in my opinion, because it influences your friend to use the money from the loan and tells him to continue gambling.

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December 21, 2023, 04:30:32 PM
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I take it as a sarcasm, not sure how you take that message, I guess you think it's serious.

The reason why I think it's sarcasm since your friend suggest to take a loan for gambling which is obviously stupid, some of my friends making fun with such jokes too. Maybe you could keep watching your friend about what he do and what his life in the next month, if nothing bad happen then your friends aren't taking out a loan to gamble.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. The only problem is, we don't really know the dude who said that so we cannot judge if he is being sarcastic or not. But OP seems to be taking it seriously. There are gamblers who like to play with the minds of those new to the gambling industry and the cause could be boredom because they lack the money to gamble again. I've seen many of these types of people in the chatbox of a gambling site. They tend to just waste their time being sarcastic with other people or sometimes they beg so that they can play again even if it's just for $1.

Perhaps if somebody knows that dude it should be OP because he is part of their group and some gamblers do the same chat over and over or discuss things about the same topic only. He could be playing mind games or he is serious about what he said but it is not recommended to do loans just for our bad habits.
It's gambling, not an investment so we may as well treat it like that or else we are going to lose more in the long run.

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December 21, 2023, 05:26:42 PM
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I find it as a joke. A gambler will never be that stupid to follow that (joke) advice. The message also tells us something -- gambling is just for fun, and nothing has to be serious about this, or else, this will lead us to take loans and our lives miserable. If we are into gambling, we make sure that we have nothing to regret when losing instead, accept the fact that we are not lucky today and stop, maybe the next, and come back again.

If we understand how gambling works, we don't need to be emotional. And avoid chasing our losses in order to avoid more losses.
I agree with you because gamblers will not be that stupid in making decisions even though we may often be wrong in taking action. Gambling that is lived only for fun is not a big problem because we know this is done only in certain conditions. Usually I gamble when I have free time and get a little bonus from work, the goal is that I do not use a daily budget for other needs to gamble.

Unfortunately there is no way for those who are addicted to avoid emotional because when they lose some of the initial bets will make them more motivated to continue and their hopes can get a victory in the next gambling and even though it is no guarantee. Different when someone only gambles for pleasure and maybe they are a little more able to rely on emotions so as not to lose a lot of money.

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December 21, 2023, 05:59:47 PM
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Pls you don't need to take this serious, it is actually a joke. I think have seen this somewhere.
It might be just to ridicule those who continues  gambling even when they know they are out of funds.
It is not good to taking loan just to gamble with it, that is the worst risk that a gambler can take, it is better off selling one's properties than taking a loan which you never sure of the outcome.
Some people who have done this and had their bitter experience often ends up in depression and are most likely to live in abject poverty because they are indebted to a loan source
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This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun? 

Those who believe in this chat are going to spoil their lives because in such one try more they will loss all their money. And those who initiate taking loan to continue gambling as they are in thoughts that they are one try far then they are not only make themselves distress but also become a burden on their family. Its not a joke therefore think before you accepting this message as with this single line your life will become unpleasant.

Remember that if you are continuously attempting for another twist of fate to get your money back then your addiction will never ends but will getting worse with the passage of time. This is the message because of which all new users of gambling turn into an addictive gamblers and then they move from taking loan towards selling of home, lands and so many other things and make the lives of their families dejected.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.


For me this is already an addiction specially if you are already taking a loan or debt just to continue on playing.
If it is just for fun people wouldn't overspend and only gamble what they could afford to lose, they also wouldn't consider taking debt or loan just to continue.
For me when someone is already willing to take a loan or debt just to continue what they want then it is already an addiction.



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December 21, 2023, 09:36:17 PM
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Gambling should not be the highest priority in life. Moreover, having to use money from a loan to gamble is the same as risking your whole life.
But it seems like this is sarcastic language for your friend who is addicted to gambling. Because whatever it is, you have to gamble happily, without using all your funds.
What is written is really stupid advice in my opinion, because it influences your friend to use the money from the loan and tells him to continue gambling.
That could be sarcastic but still, it encourages you to gamble and I don’t want to be kill joy but for me that kind of group chat is not worth it. Imagine having that group that reminds you to gamble from time to time, that can be stressful and seriously, I don’t want to encourage my friend to gamble as well. Its either for fun or quiet serious, but the thing here is that some might already addict in gambling and that can also influence you to gamble more which is not healthy for me.
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December 21, 2023, 09:39:33 PM
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For me this is already an addiction specially if you are already taking a loan or debt just to continue on playing.
If it is just for fun people wouldn't overspend and only gamble what they could afford to lose, they also wouldn't consider taking debt or loan just to continue.
For me when someone is already willing to take a loan or debt just to continue what they want then it is already an addiction.

I agree. If a person can no longer control himself to the extent that he takes loans without thinking how he will pay them back in case of failure, it is already a rather dangerous addiction, which can lead to very sad consequences. In this case, the only thing left to do is to treat the person
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