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Author Topic: What's your view on this? Is it fun or addiction?  (Read 2009 times)
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December 21, 2023, 09:43:12 PM
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.

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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.


If the amount of money that has been wagered is small and since this is something that only happens on the weekends then I do not think we can talk about an addiction or anything like that, however the image that you shared is without a doubt painting a false image about gambling, as it is impossible to create generational wealth with it, losing is almost a certainty over the long term, taking a loan is a very bad idea and people should be able to stop gambling whenever they want.



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December 21, 2023, 09:43:32 PM
 #142

Where's the fun there? You are 90% going to lose in gambling and that's why if you take a loan and let it lose, where's the fun on that side? you lose money and then you're obliged to pay the loan and with the interest that you'd agreed upon. I don't see any fun in there but only full stress and problem. I'd gamble with a few penny but won't have any problem losing them and no need to think about interest rates that comes after the loaned amount. It's better to gamble at peace without anything that confuses you at night because you've taken a loan.

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December 21, 2023, 09:51:32 PM
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.


Who ever that posted the screenshot in the group must be a core addict and if you check his debt profile you will already know how much debt he has incurred from this same approach that he has toward gambling,  I believe that many of your group members won't take him seriously because if they do it will result into massive debt increase among your department mates.

How can someone say you should take a loan to gamble with,  this is the most funny thing I heard in a long time,  even though many already know the risk tendency in gambling and how bad it could affect one life.



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December 21, 2023, 10:00:49 PM
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When people get used to placing bets, that's when they start to get addicted to gambling, and they don't realize it at all because of the fun of placing bets with their friends. And if it becomes an obligation for them to follow it, at that point, they will become addicted to gambling, and unfortunately, it has been going on for a long time, so they don't realize it. But maybe some people have realized that this has become a new habit and has also become an addiction, so they try to suppress their gambling addiction and limit their betting activities with their friends.

These people rarely spend their weekends with friends and prefer to gather with their families. They just try to limit their gambling activities so that they don't become addicted to gambling. And people who don't place bets too often every weekend can have fun because they know their limits in placing those bets. Maybe it's just to enjoy the moment, but when it turns into a habit and obligation for them always to be present and place bets, they become addicted to gambling without realizing it.

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December 21, 2023, 10:20:23 PM
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Just one stop away from generational wealth lol.  That is the worst kind of advertising no matter the level of truth about it.  It pulls at every gambling string an addict has.  I don't know what it's for but Id say steer clear of any groups that pump this nonsense and are serious about it.

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December 21, 2023, 10:25:33 PM
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.
For someone who thinks gambling can make him a millionaire or generational wealth that means the level at which such person have gotten into Gambling it can be called addiction.  For someone to be having a mindset of getting generation wealth in gambling it means such person will be playing gambling every days to accumulate millions of money for his generation coming.  Someone who is not addicted in gambling can never think gambling can make one to generation wealth.  Some of these boys might be having serious addiction problems,  since this is a game they play everyday.

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 Cheesy That's a bad influence and a very funny invitation to gambling, does your country consider gambling permissible or secretly? Speaking of marketing and offers in my country, there are also many scattered on whatsapp and facebook or other social media in the action of offering online loan platforms and gambling with similar algorithms, I accidentally clicked on several sites and offers of various variants of both gambling and world fund loans sometimes sent random generate unknown people, I don't want to get into difficulties and don't want to leave loans and finally I block them one by one. Cheesy It's better to use the money from a little work and test the web just according to the money I want to spend not to force the situation especially when it will make it difficult for yourself.

I'm talking about conditions, even real jobs and businesses sometimes have losses and run out Cheesy especially those that are different results from time to time, indeed when successfully predicting there are those who can cover for fun and make a big success statement for recognition that their predictions are as experienced as class, if an invitation is quite ridiculous I just ignore it Grin


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Cheesy That's a bad influence and a very funny invitation to gambling, does your country consider gambling permissible or secretly? Speaking of marketing and offers in my country, there are also many scattered on whatsapp and facebook or other social media in the action of offering online loan platforms and gambling with similar algorithms, I accidentally clicked on several sites and offers of various variants of both gambling and world fund loans sometimes sent random generate unknown people, I don't want to get into difficulties and don't want to leave loans and finally I block them one by one. Cheesy It's better to use the money from a little work and test the web just according to the money I want to spend not to force the situation especially when it will make it difficult for yourself.

I'm talking about conditions, even real jobs and businesses sometimes have losses and run out Cheesy especially those that are different results from time to time, indeed when successfully predicting there are those who can cover for fun and make a big success statement for recognition that their predictions are as experienced as class, if an invitation is quite ridiculous I just ignore it Grin
If they are doing that then obviously its allowed because if gambling was really that been banned they wouldnt really be minding on doing that.Hence, we cant really just say that doing gambling is really just that good on placing bets on gambling sites on which we can do gambling even just simply making up some bets in between with your fellow workers as well on which you wont really be that
making  yourself that making up some bets which doesnt need any platform. This is why it would really be just that depending on how you would gonna make yourself deal up with
things such as this. Form of addiction? no its not because as long you are still that in control into your finances then it would really be just that fine.

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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.




That is an addiction, because gambling is not an option if you just want to have fun. You don't need to take out a loan to gamble so it's clearly an addiction. If you can afford to lose your gambling bets and that budget even if you lose, it's okay with you, you still enjoy what you're doing, then I can say you'll have fun.
When your gambling has reached the point where you take out a loan so you can gamble, that is a sign that you are addicted to gambling.

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Gambling is one such platform where we shouldn't have the never giveup mind. We're risking money to make money which is much associated with luck. Over anything that prioritise hard work we can have the never giveup mentality and run. Surely we'll experience the success whereas with gambling it is like chasing the losses where very few succeed and the majority end up losing everything.

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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.
You never said if there used to be stakes made in the prediction before the winner goes with a data subscription if not, I would love to know how you are empowered to get the data subscription awards for the winner (s).
Of course for a gambler getting addicted is usually out of consents, most addicted gamblers would seize not to notice their advanced Indulgences while gambling until there is historical looses in lign negatively affecting the bankrolls.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.
Gambling on every weekends is cool but making it compulsory is where it is contradicted because gambling is not a reliable base that supplies incomes so compulsorily betting at every weekends is such an acquainted game that you basically don't care if you looses or wins.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?.
You can't try to getting convinced that you are one way to winning after much looses couples with the instigations of taking a loan to keep staking because you smells winning in a closest.
So as long it is something that has affected your bankrolls and indebting you, then it is an addicted that your efforts is based recklessly out of control.

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.
With the above quoted, there is no more fun in there since you could game til you goes bankrupt and getting indebted. So even though you do still find fun in It, then it is assumed you are lost of your minds.

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What if that guy is just trolling you all? IMO, I can sense that there's the obvious on it and I don't think that it is a motivation and it's just possible that he's having fun with you all.

But let's say that it's a serious one, you can't also determine that the guy posted that is already addicted just because of that quote. He might just stomped into it and just want to share it with you so, you can think of your actions.

I don't know but for me, we need more information about the guy and his habits to say that he's already addicted not just by a single quote he shared.
This is what im thinking about trolling and having a loan just to gamble and get addictive just to lose more money this is much more worse than ruining your life future, its hard to make a joke about this gambling addiction although you're winning or losing this kind of quote needs to be on our self only not having fun around with others coz they can get ideas on how they can start gamble and end up broke in the end. you don't need more information about the guy who posted that quote we can see that see wants other to be broke period.
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Cheesy That's a bad influence and a very funny invitation to gambling, does your country consider gambling permissible or secretly? Speaking of marketing and offers in my country, there are also many scattered on whatsapp and facebook or other social media in the action of offering online loan platforms and gambling with similar algorithms, I accidentally clicked on several sites and offers of various variants of both gambling and world fund loans sometimes sent random generate unknown people, I don't want to get into difficulties and don't want to leave loans and finally I block them one by one. Cheesy It's better to use the money from a little work and test the web just according to the money I want to spend not to force the situation especially when it will make it difficult for yourself.

I'm talking about conditions, even real jobs and businesses sometimes have losses and run out Cheesy especially those that are different results from time to time, indeed when successfully predicting there are those who can cover for fun and make a big success statement for recognition that their predictions are as experienced as class, if an invitation is quite ridiculous I just ignore it Grin
If they are doing that then obviously its allowed because if gambling was really that been banned they wouldnt really be minding on doing that.Hence, we cant really just say that doing gambling is really just that good on placing bets on gambling sites on which we can do gambling even just simply making up some bets in between with your fellow workers as well on which you wont really be that
making  yourself that making up some bets which doesnt need any platform. This is why it would really be just that depending on how you would gonna make yourself deal up with
things such as this. Form of addiction? no its not because as long you are still that in control into your finances then it would really be just that fine.
Yes, work friends sometimes bring new meaning even if someone is not familiar with the game though, I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with playing games or even small bets for the spirit of work. it will refresh the atmosphere and provide a relief from the boredom felt in the work environment, but if it is excessive and over time allows borrowing money from fellow friends, this is what is difficult to limit, because with a little joke and familiarity over time the bets and loans get bigger. it is difficult to return and this is the beginning of the fun hole turning into pressure and carried over in the work environment, of course when getting wages will spend paying loans, and regret it even though it is difficult to stop. because the environment and friends still continue. It is difficult to return and this is the beginning of the pleasure hole turning into pressure and being carried away in the work environment, of course when you get a salary you will spend paying the loan, and regret it even though it is difficult to stop. because the environment and making friends still goes on. although predictions are sometimes true.


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December 22, 2023, 05:59:33 AM
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Basically, I think that if the involvement is still within reasonable limits, which means that it does not cause too many financial problems for him, then I think there is nothing wrong if the activity has really become a habit in his environment, but the problem may be that this situation is quite worrying because after all, something that is uncontrollable is always unpredictable, or it means that there may be times when one of those who try occasionally acts aggressively and excessively. That's right, this situation does need to be watched and controlled well so that all involved don't end up addicted.

One of the things that can be done is maybe I hope there is one of them who always reminds them about the dangers of addiction or even better to remind each other so that they can keep their awareness so as not to overdo it. On the other hand, the fact that losing control and forgetting some of the boundaries they have made before are still very likely to happen as I said above when they are really tempted by something they see. So in my opinion what is better is if they can better find other activities on weekends such as going to one of the entertainment venues or the gym and get used to it slowly, because after all in my opinion gambling is an activity that inevitably has to use money and the risk of losing is always lurking.
Everything must be within reasonable limits because if we are still within reasonable limits, we will not experience any problems and can still enjoy gambling. We have been doing this gambling activity for a long time and maybe even since we were teenagers and our mindset has probably changed from initially just wanting to have fun by getting entertainment from gambling to wanting to make money. This makes us more aggressive and uncontrolled, making us gamble excessively. This is what we have to realize and pay attention to so that we can start changing what we need to change so that we can use gambling properly and avoid gambling addiction. It is true that this situation is worrying and needs to be controlled immediately so that there are no bigger problems and could end in gambling addiction.

We may still often lose self-control when playing gambling so that we cannot control the use of money, especially when gambling, we can forget ourselves because we get pleasure from gambling. However, we must be able to use gambling as entertainment that uses money. But as long as we can control the use of money, we will not overdo it in gambling and can allocate a certain amount of funds for gambling every week or month. And we can also enjoy or get pleasure from other things so we won't just focus on gambling. And it is true that as friends, we can remind each other not to gamble excessively so that no one among us will be addicted to gambling.

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Gambling is one such platform where we shouldn't have the never giveup mind. We're risking money to make money which is much associated with luck. Over anything that prioritise hard work we can have the never giveup mentality and run. Surely we'll experience the success whereas with gambling it is like chasing the losses where very few succeed and the majority end up losing everything.

You're correct, when gambling we should not be chasing after our losses, when we lose we should take it as it is and move on. Never giving attitude shouldn't be for gambling or for things that need luck to win. Never giving up should be for things that need our focus and determination to win. Gambling just need luck and few skills, you'll be wasting your time if you choose not to give up when you're losing always and only hoping to win at the end.

Never giving up will only make you become an addicted gambler as you'll be gambling always without budget or time limit. When you do something everything, you over do it and that's how gambling addictions is born. If you're gambling for entertainment, there are other activity they can give you entertainment if gambling is making you to lose and if you're gambling to make money stop it or you'll lose more than you make.



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December 22, 2023, 07:56:54 AM
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I don't see that as an addiction but rather fun based in my perspective and I see it more as a sarcasm. Though if he sends it not for fun but a serious one, there's definitely a problem with that guy, it's either he wanted other to be addictive to gambling or he is addicted himself, but if it's a group chat with you all having fun of it and he shared it there, that's definitely just a humor and you shouldn't concern about it.

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December 22, 2023, 08:28:10 AM
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I don't see that as an addiction but rather fun based in my perspective and I see it more as a sarcasm. Though if he sends it not for fun but a serious one, there's definitely a problem with that guy, it's either he wanted other to be addictive to gambling or he is addicted himself, but if it's a group chat with you all having fun of it and he shared it there, that's definitely just a humor and you shouldn't concern about it.
This is funny,to me,he isn't happy losing,he is crying but using irony and sarcasm to cover it up.No one can be happy losing,and even if you are very rich,you can't be happy losing money.Money is what every one is looking for,It doesn't matter whether you are rich or you are poor,no one wants to go broke after experiencing wealth and riches.So what I see there is him crying inside because he has had so much loss.Those who would take his message for fun are those who would suffer victims of loss because they will assume every other person is losing,and won't be afraid to lose untill they get addicted to it and lose all their properties in the name of gambling.Do not take that message seriously,else,you will have yourself to be blamed.

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December 22, 2023, 10:33:47 AM
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I don't see that as an addiction but rather fun based in my perspective and I see it more as a sarcasm. Though if he sends it not for fun but a serious one, there's definitely a problem with that guy, it's either he wanted other to be addictive to gambling or he is addicted himself, but if it's a group chat with you all having fun of it and he shared it there, that's definitely just a humor and you shouldn't concern about it.
This is funny,to me,he isn't happy losing,he is crying but using irony and sarcasm to cover it up.No one can be happy losing,and even if you are very rich,you can't be happy losing money.Money is what every one is looking for,It doesn't matter whether you are rich or you are poor,no one wants to go broke after experiencing wealth and riches.So what I see there is him crying inside because he has had so much loss.Those who would take his message for fun are those who would suffer victims of loss because they will assume every other person is losing,and won't be afraid to lose untill they get addicted to it and lose all their properties in the name of gambling.Do not take that message seriously,else,you will have yourself to be blamed.
I have been reading through this thread and the comments but I haven't come across a comment like this, however you are totally correct and I agreed with what you have said, no matter how rich one can be both gambling or investment aspect, nobody will ever be so happy losing money in them, unless its a gambler that doesn't work to get the money like kid thqt don't have anything to use money for.
I haven't lost much on gambling because I don't gamble all the time, sometimes I will be so occupied with activities and I will not have much time to gamble, so that's what makes me not to gamble all the time. So someone like me will always be angry whenever they lose including me too, because we don't expect someone that worked hard to get money lose in gamble and still be smiling or very happy that's he's losing, no it is not done that way, those that even gamble for fun will also be angry when they lose more than 10 times on their stake and this is what makes it shows that only 5% of gamblers are gambling for fun and the rest are gambling just to see if they can make money from it.

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December 22, 2023, 12:15:33 PM
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.
For you guys, it is cool, it is just for the fun of the moment, nothing more, so I don't see the addiction that can be an issue here. What you guys are doing is just for the upliftment of the spirit of the group, nothing else. But if in reality, if one is encouraged with respect to the quote you bumped into, then it is no more a joke. The person should just avoid such advice because it is nothing but Evil. One will not know the time that all his money would be wasted in the name of betting and evil/selfish encouragements.

To make matters worse, the person was still encouraged to take a loan even after losing all his money just in the hope of betting more. There is nothing that can make someone more foolish and addicted than this. Gambling should be pursued differently and responsibly, and I know that this kind of advice can never lead to responsible gambling. So it is better to flee from such as early as possible.

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December 22, 2023, 12:19:28 PM
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An act that is really not recommended, it is true that for people who have been involved in gambling for a long time they will consider it a joke because honestly I myself admit that it is really ridiculous, taking a loan just to gamble, I'm not sure why people who have been involved for a long time think it's a joke because they already know the dangers of gambling using borrowed money, there have been many examples and one of my friends became a victim of debt, so it's a joke to me but maybe for other gamblers, especially beginners, maybe the loan will be used as an alternative when they run out of money.

What you said is always recommended and what should be considered especially for those beginners who do not know much about the adverse effects of gambling, so putting the smallest budget amount or the intention that they can be responsible for is really recommended. I think this is one of the main points that all gamblers should pay attention to, because obviously the inability to accept loss and then emotion is the starting point for various bad possibilities to occur, such as putting a large amount for a big win but finally losing and you will get emotional and then after that you will act out of control and finally the amount of loss is even greater.
Whether it's just a joke or not, words like that shouldn't be thrown around so easily, maybe for those who are easily influenced they will deepen their role in gambling and bet large amount because they may think that luck will always be there if they don't stop gambling and keep trying to bet until they get the expected profit, and maybe there are those who are determined to take out a loan if the money they use runs out. This will of course put them at risky of addiction because they are too chasing their ambition to make a profits.

Yes it is an important step for gamblers if they don't want to experience big losses it is better to use small amounts of money and use it to get lucky but if you don't get lucky stop immediately and don't try to deposit money again and again because it will cause you The more it gets out of controls and you will experience big losses without you realizing it early.

Yes, basically everyone has a different nature, some are easily affected or offended and some are in the same direction as the person who said those words in the sense that they understand that it's all a joke but it's better not to say words like that even though basically it's nothing more than a joke, nothing but to minimize and maintain a relationship with them so that it remains fine without any problems. On the other hand, the worry is as you said, for those who are easily offended it is not impossible that they could take out a loan to gamble and chase victory with the intention of proving to people who like to scoff at them.

Putting enough money or what we can afford to lose is always recommended, not only to beginners but professionals also often emphasize risk management rather than pursuing opportunities that are basically uncertain, but unfortunately there are still those who forget some important points like this just because they are too focused on winning which always has no certainty, and for people who can do things like that in my opinion only those who have a proper understanding of gambling, because on the other hand it is not easy to apply some precautions if they basically have no awareness because the focus is only on winning.

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