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February 04, 2024, 03:29:05 PM
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Op, can't support the picture you shared, where advising gamblers to stake more! Even keep staking by taking loan? Thus gambling will be no longer for fun but it becomes turn into addiction for gamblers where money will only does matter. And there also said, literally you can't loose! I haven't got that mean! Cause we all know that, gambling is a place where people lose their fund more than win. So keep staking by taking loan could be dangerous and life can be ruined because of such steps.This is not normal and responsible behave in gambling. I'll never advise such thing to any of my friends who are engaged in gambling world
Its indeed bad if done in a unmoderated manner. Gambling should be kept within the reins of fun territory and not into the despair domain. Taking loans to gamble means that person is so desperate to win back the loss that they are taking more risks on their head. At one point it is just easier to accept that you lost the money and move on with your life while working a job to make it up.

Not accepting this "defeat" means you are driving your own pain and addiction without actually knowing it. The house will win no matter what, so it is better be quick about the acceptance and move on.

All these things can be avoided if you be the type of gambler who plays once a year at Vegas with some spare money while having fun with friends and not more.

I've always believed that unmoderated gambling may soon become a life-altering addiction. If you're borrowing to fund this habit, the pleasure is over and the descent has begun. Realizing the excitement has become a chase of loses is hard to take.

As you said, acceptance is key. In my experience, refusing to accept defeat perpetuates misery and addiction. Humility and realism are hard lessons. The house's edge shows that the chances are against us. Fast, bitter acceptance can be liberating. Cut your losses and find serenity moving forward.

Fun gambling is beautiful. Im in. Our annual Vegas trip, laughter with company, and excitement of the game with spare change are worlds apart. Pure gambling, without urgency or joy. Though the stakes are minimal, spirits are high. Remember that gambling is about the experience, not the result.

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February 05, 2024, 04:04:13 AM
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Op, can't support the picture you shared, where advising gamblers to stake more! Even keep staking by taking loan? Thus gambling will be no longer for fun but it becomes turn into addiction for gamblers where money will only does matter. And there also said, literally you can't loose! I haven't got that mean! Cause we all know that, gambling is a place where people lose their fund more than win. So keep staking by taking loan could be dangerous and life can be ruined because of such steps.This is not normal and responsible behave in gambling. I'll never advise such thing to any of my friends who are engaged in gambling world
It should be clear that the people belonging to that group have developed gambling problems, because no one that knows anything about the math behind gambling will say anything like that, so that is a group of people that are trying to obtain profits in an activity that was designed specifically to avoid this, so not only they will never realize their goals but they will also lose so much money during the process that they will impoverish themselves instead.
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February 05, 2024, 12:11:17 PM
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Op, can't support the picture you shared, where advising gamblers to stake more! Even keep staking by taking loan? Thus gambling will be no longer for fun but it becomes turn into addiction for gamblers where money will only does matter. And there also said, literally you can't loose! I haven't got that mean! Cause we all know that, gambling is a place where people lose their fund more than win. So keep staking by taking loan could be dangerous and life can be ruined because of such steps.This is not normal and responsible behave in gambling. I'll never advise such thing to any of my friends who are engaged in gambling world
It should be clear that the people belonging to that group have developed gambling problems, because no one that knows anything about the math behind gambling will say anything like that, so that is a group of people that are trying to obtain profits in an activity that was designed specifically to avoid this, so not only they will never realize their goals but they will also lose so much money during the process that they will impoverish themselves instead.
If they do not realize that the risks will increase, they will continue to gamble, and they will even take out loans so they can continue their gambling activities. They will not see that borrowing money to gamble will only cause problems, especially when they cannot pay back the borrowed money. It is true that gambling is no longer just for fun but has changed its aim to making money, even though they will have difficulty making money and will lose even more money. People who already know this should not try it, especially if they don't have a steady income, because it will make them lose everything. That is why we must be able to limit our gambling activities to avoid problems that we may have never imagined.

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February 05, 2024, 01:09:11 PM
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just relying on luck in gambling in my opinion is just nonsense. It may happen that someone gets rich from gambling, but it doesn't last long, because the greed factor will destroy it all in an instant. maybe you can win today and consider it luck, but not necessarily tomorrow. It's impossible if you've won a lot and don't think about taking a second chance at gambling again.

It is not about the gamer but the game. Whether you accept it or not, luck is gambling and gambling is luck. When we say something is dependent on luck, we don't mean that people don't make self-effort but then success is not 100% dependent on the effort. For instance, people will tell you that to win in sports betting you must follow H2H records but then I have experience cases where a team is always beating a particular team but the day you add it to your ticket, they play the reverse. Some say H2H doesn`t matter but current form and I have experienced also where a team on form lose to a weaker team. When you consider these things it becomes clear that gambling is a game of luck.

Now, the issue of getting rich from gambling and going broke is an individual thing. It is not peculiar to all gamblers. I have seen a gambler set up good businesses from his winnings. I have also seen people who won big and currently have nothing. I will always say that everyone is not the same and so when they win they utilize it in different ways. I have also seen a gambler who established a business through gambling but the business was ruined by his younger brother. Are we also going to attribute this to gambling? I want to win big to have an experience of what it feels like to win big.


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February 05, 2024, 01:56:12 PM
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I think that the message that your friend sent to the group is a figure of speech, an irony, meaning the opposite of the message that he sent, because it's the opposite of everything he said that makes sense. He probably wants the other students in the group to use their thinking faculty to code that he actually meant the opposite, if it's not a joke, then the guy must have intentions to mislead gullible students in the group. Taking loan to gamble is desperation, which leads to addiction and believing that through gambling can lead you to your generational wealth, is an illusion, because it's one in a million chance to hit that kind of jackpot that can change your life, there's nothing fun about these mindsets.

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February 05, 2024, 02:29:35 PM
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This is an ordinary call to violate any normal money management strategies. It is better not to respond to such calls, and in no case take out gambling loans. And even more so, do not borrow money from friends for this. Because in addition to financial risks, any player also risks deceiving the trust of his family. And this is the worst thing, any trust is very difficult to restore. It is much more difficult than just paying back the debt with money.

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February 05, 2024, 02:37:53 PM
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I think that the message that your friend sent to the group is a figure of speech, an irony, meaning the opposite of the message that he sent, because it's the opposite of everything he said that makes sense. He probably wants the other students in the group to use their thinking faculty to code that he actually meant the opposite, if it's not a joke, then the guy must have intentions to mislead gullible students in the group. Taking loan to gamble is desperation, which leads to addiction and believing that through gambling can lead you to your generational wealth, is an illusion, because it's one in a million chance to hit that kind of jackpot that can change your life, there's nothing fun about these mindsets.
the thing about sending a particular information for public consumption is that regardless of your motive behind the information, it can meet the next person in a bad state of mind and course him to accept the information or apply it in a negative way.

Any statement that has the potential of coursing someone to become addicted to an habit is one that shouldn't be encouraged at all and although the person that posted that actually dropped it just to have fun and cruise with us, it felt as if some persons might be misinformed in the process and might take it as a positive advice.

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February 05, 2024, 03:20:30 PM
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Op, can't support the picture you shared, where advising gamblers to stake more! Even keep staking by taking loan? Thus gambling will be no longer for fun but it becomes turn into addiction for gamblers where money will only does matter. And there also said, literally you can't loose! I haven't got that mean! Cause we all know that, gambling is a place where people lose their fund more than win. So keep staking by taking loan could be dangerous and life can be ruined because of such steps.This is not normal and responsible behave in gambling. I'll never advise such thing to any of my friends who are engaged in gambling world
It should be clear that the people belonging to that group have developed gambling problems, because no one that knows anything about the math behind gambling will say anything like that, so that is a group of people that are trying to obtain profits in an activity that was designed specifically to avoid this, so not only they will never realize their goals but they will also lose so much money during the process that they will impoverish themselves instead.

Of course, absolutely no one or any gambler can know the algorithm or math that the casino applies to the gambling system, you will not know anything about this because you are nothing more than a player, and it would be unreasonable for the casino to tell the algorithm or the secret to winning bets to anyone because it could obviously have a bad impact on their business in the sense that it could make the casino bankrupt. After all gambling is a business created by croupiers who hide behind "winning opportunities", as we know that most gambling always ends in losing, or what I mean is that in gambling losing will dominate more than winning which will only happen occasionally when you are lucky, and this is where casinos take a lot of profit from gamblers who can't stop, or from those who are already addicted who are always chasing victory when what happens is that they lose more. So the bottom line in my opinion is that when you gamble excessively then it's the same as giving money away to the casino.

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February 05, 2024, 03:32:53 PM
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Continue to gamble and take a loan? For gamblers that are not new to gambling, it would be seen as a joke. But it should also not to be taken for a joke. Why would someone gamble to the extent it will get to taking a loan? That is an addiction already and nothing else.

Gambling should be without loan. Also gambling should be without 95% of the money you are earning. Even only 1% of the money that you are earning should be used to gamble is the recommendation.

If you use 1% to gamble and continue to lose, you have no loan to take and you have no difficulty to face.
Obviously, when a person has gambled to an extent of going to take a loan, then the gambler has actually shifted from gambling responsibly. And just as you said, there is a thin line between the gambler and addiction if not already addicted, This situation is just like someone who met me recently that he is on the process of taking a loan to start trading, a novice trader for that matter, I immediately told him that it is a wrong way to begin with.

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February 06, 2024, 03:18:53 AM
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I think that the message that your friend sent to the group is a figure of speech, an irony, meaning the opposite of the message that he sent, because it's the opposite of everything he said that makes sense. He probably wants the other students in the group to use their thinking faculty to code that he actually meant the opposite, if it's not a joke, then the guy must have intentions to mislead gullible students in the group. Taking loan to gamble is desperation, which leads to addiction and believing that through gambling can lead you to your generational wealth, is an illusion, because it's one in a million chance to hit that kind of jackpot that can change your life, there's nothing fun about these mindsets.
the thing about sending a particular information for public consumption is that regardless of your motive behind the information, it can meet the next person in a bad state of mind and course him to accept the information or apply it in a negative way.

Any statement that has the potential of coursing someone to become addicted to an habit is one that shouldn't be encouraged at all and although the person that posted that actually dropped it just to have fun and cruise with us, it felt as if some persons might be misinformed in the process and might take it as a positive advice.
A person who cannot digest true or false information is a fool, we all know that anything about gambling is definitely bad and even in the picture you provided it is clear that it is just some kind of joke which means doing the opposite. Indeed someone is in a bad condition even those who are addicted cannot think clearly and it could be said that their minds have been controlled by gambling so they digest these opinions as a kind of motivation for them to continue gambling.

Yes, statements like that are very sensitive for some people because not everyone can accept positive or negative types of statements. Maybe some people understand that these statements are wrong and think of them as a joke because they know that borrowing money to continue gambling is something that is not acceptable. recommend it because it is a big risk, but there are also those who accept this statement, making them addicted to gambling, therefore be careful if you want to say something when it comes to gambling.

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February 06, 2024, 03:58:35 AM
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If they do not realize that the risks will increase, they will continue to gamble, and they will even take out loans so they can continue their gambling activities. They will not see that borrowing money to gamble will only cause problems, especially when they cannot pay back the borrowed money. It is true that gambling is no longer just for fun but has changed its aim to making money, even though they will have difficulty making money and will lose even more money. People who already know this should not try it, especially if they don't have a steady income, because it will make them lose everything. That is why we must be able to limit our gambling activities to avoid problems that we may have never imagined.
Isn't it true that the many problems that have occurred are proof that almost the majority of gamblers forget or are negligent about the increased risks involved, they will pursue what they have targeted without any more careful consideration.
Indeed, the impact is an increase in the number of bets and money that must be lost and in the end borrowing money becomes the last option for them to achieve the results they have targeted.
This is mistake in the mindset of every gambler and this is also what causes many cases where gamblers always experience difficult problems, whether it is addiction problems, losing money completely and also the problem of piling up debts.
When everything happens, gambler will have new problem, namely psychological problem because they cannot accept and resolve what they are experiencing.

After all, if they just aim to have fun then they won't do stupid things that harm themselves and I sure they will still be in safe condition.
But unfortunately what actually happens is not what we think, most gamblers are too careless and more often make mistakes that cause serious problems.
They cannot set limits and also have the right goals when gambling and this is reality that happens very often, I not surprised, especially since it is always a gambler who experiences problems at any time.

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February 06, 2024, 04:05:24 AM
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Just take a look at the statement again, it's shows that they literally don't care about you, wether you are addicted or not, because that write up alone shows that they are ready to push you to addiction as long as it fills their pockets.
 
To tell you the truth, no body in his or her right sense with take a loan for gambling purpose, because it's only addictive people that do that, so when someone cannot do without gambling on the weekends, that is addiction, because addiction makes you feel as if you can't do without it.

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This image is funny if it is a joke but if not it is funnier because everyone including individuals who have just started gambling, knows the effects of constant gambling and that they shouldn't gamble with borrowed money. Of course, there may be people who despite knowing this become addicted to gambling and continue to gamble with all the money they can find (including debt). I think this image was prepared for fun and was used to make fun of someone because the content literally shows that it was prepared to make fun of someone. On the other hand, it may also motivate people who are addicted to gambling in a malicious way to gamble more or encourage new gamblers to gamble constantly. It is very difficult to guess but it is quite easy to claim that there is no single logical sentence.may be a factor that increases these possibilities but in the same way, under-the-stairs businesses in any different sector will also increase these odds.
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Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.
Obviously is an addiction because there is no way somebody will keep getting loans from people all because of gambling that even when you lose you should keep borrowing to gamble, that sounds irresponsible because in as much  as everyone's goal is to make winings all the time through there gambling but that shouldn't give them the mindset of seeing gambling as generational wealth because that's a very wrong concept and however if making a win in gambling is not certain how would someone sees it as generational wealth.

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why so many persons are becoming a victim of gambling all the time because of there narrative they have about gambling, because so many persons believe that there is every possibility of them making it in life through gambling that's why when they gamble they aim higher by staking a huge about of money in other for them to win big and in most cases they end up losing everything, so perhaps from the message on the picture is obvious that the person doesn't no anything about gambling because if he does he would have understood the risk of having that narrative on gambling.

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February 06, 2024, 04:16:44 PM
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Isn't it true that the many problems that have occurred are proof that almost the majority of gamblers forget or are negligent about the increased risks involved, they will pursue what they have targeted without any more careful consideration.
Indeed, the impact is an increase in the number of bets and money that must be lost and in the end borrowing money becomes the last option for them to achieve the results they have targeted.
This is mistake in the mindset of every gambler and this is also what causes many cases where gamblers always experience difficult problems, whether it is addiction problems, losing money completely and also the problem of piling up debts.
When everything happens, gambler will have new problem, namely psychological problem because they cannot accept and resolve what they are experiencing.

After all, if they just aim to have fun then they won't do stupid things that harm themselves and I sure they will still be in safe condition.
But unfortunately what actually happens is not what we think, most gamblers are too careless and more often make mistakes that cause serious problems.
They cannot set limits and also have the right goals when gambling and this is reality that happens very often, I not surprised, especially since it is always a gambler who experiences problems at any time.
Yes, gamblers who experience many problems forget about the increasing risks they face when gambling. They are too fascinated by gambling and thirsty for victory that they forget about self-control and other important things that they need while they are gambling. And for those who borrow money to gamble, it will only make the problem bigger because they won't be able to pay back the borrowed money shortly, and they will only be chased by the person who gave the loan. They don't realize that borrowing money to use for gambling is not a good idea because when they lose, they will have difficulty paying back their debt. They also don't have any money anymore, so they really have to find a way to pay off their debt. And if they still try to seek debt from other people, it will only make the problem even bigger, which is a fatal mistake.

Those who gamble for fun will not want to do such reckless things because they will think about how to pay back their debts. Those who want to have fun gambling will prefer to use enough money to gamble, and when they have had enough of gambling, they will immediately stop gambling and leave the casino. They don't want to continue gambling because that means they have to deposit more money, which will only increase their losses even more. They can still be wise in gambling and always try to follow their limits because they have seen what happens to people who gamble excessively, so they don't want that to happen to them too. When playing gambling, they are always careful in using their money because that means they always try to prevent their losses from getting bigger.

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February 06, 2024, 04:52:25 PM
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Forced to gamble every weekend? That's messed up. No one should feel pressured to do something that clearly isn't fun for them, especially if it puts them in financial trouble. Imagine having to bet your lunch money every Friday – not cool!

But what if it's just a casual thing with friends, no pressure, all chill? Well, that's a different story. As long as everyone's doing it for fun, with limits set and wallets safe, it can be a way to unwind and hang out. Think friendly board game night, but with slightly higher stakes.

The key is being responsible. Just like you wouldn't pour all your savings into a single spin on a roulette wheel, don't let the excitement cloud your judgment. Gambling can be fun, but it's important to remember it's not a get-rich-quick scheme. Think of it like adding a spicy kick to your social life, not a main course.

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As long as they don’t take this motivational quote literally then everything is fine. Gambling can be a bonding activity among friends. Making a few friendly bets in a group chat is something normal that a lot of people do and they don’t necessarily view it as gambling because you don’t risk anything significant. If it’s an activity you are doing outside of group chats then it is your responsibility to not let it become a harmful habit. It might feel compulsory but if your friends are reasonable people they will understand if you need to take a break for a while.

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February 07, 2024, 04:55:02 AM
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This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.
When you are gambling, and you are looking for money, then you are already addicted to gambling, or should I say you are about to be addicted to gambling, when you make it compulsory for yourself to gamble, you are also addicted to gambling, because I see gambling as what you should do whenever you are free, and not what you should make mandatory that you have to do it. So it’s just better you give your friend advice about his gambling activities, so that he won’t end up regretting when it’s already late.


Pictures like this shouldn’t be taken as a play, most people that are really desperate to make money from gambling will take this picture very serious, so pictures like this are just encouraging addiction in gambling, and it should be avoided, this is a way in which addicted gamblers are encouraging themselves, when you visit a gambling shop in my country, you are going to see gamblers motivating themselves like that.
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February 07, 2024, 05:42:44 AM
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To tell you the truth, no body in his or her right sense with take a loan for gambling purpose, because it's only addictive people that do that, so when someone cannot do without gambling on the weekends, that is addiction, because addiction makes you feel as if you can't do without it.

As a gambler, if you notice you're beginning to take loan for gambling, you have to stop gambling instantly before the addiction gets too far. You're already addicted when you take a loan but you can still do something about it if it's your first loan that you're taking. Gambling shouldn't be a do or die affair, it should be something we do for entertainment. We don't have to gamble every weekend or we're increasing the chance of getting addicted and going broke.

Gambling every weekend is addiction, gambling when you don't feel like gambling but you have to do it so that you can win some money to use for your expenses is addiction. Gamble should be done as a fun activity and only to be done when you feel like having fun so you can stop whenever you want to stop. If you're gambling for money you can't stop whenever you want to stop as you need to make money.

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February 07, 2024, 08:01:54 AM
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Pictures like this shouldn’t be taken as a play, most people that are really desperate to make money from gambling will take this picture very serious, so pictures like this are just encouraging addiction in gambling, and it should be avoided, this is a way in which addicted gamblers are encouraging themselves, when you visit a gambling shop in my country, you are going to see gamblers motivating themselves like that.
If people could ignore it, they would not feel hopeless, would look for other avenues, and would not use gambling to make money. They know that gambling is just for fun and not a place to make money. They will also realize that if they play more often than before, let alone use too much money, they will experience a lot of losses and will not be able to recover their losses. And yes, that is what people will do to return to gambling because they think they are just a little away from getting their big win, even though it won't happen as easily as they imagine. They have to really see and realize that gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun in their free time.

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