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December 20, 2023, 02:42:36 PM
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It's now final, Teofimo Lopez Vs. Jamaine Ortiz will square off for the WBO Welterweight Title on February 8

This is a very risky fight for Teofimo Lopez, Ortiz gave Lomachenko a tough fight when they fought and He's going to give Lopez a much tougher fight, Ortiz is a guy who doesn't back up and has powers on both hands and can deliver lethal body shots, we all know Lopez






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If Ortiz doesn’t fade like he tends to do, Teofimo could be in a lot of trouble in this fight and might need help from the judges, as we saw in his fight with Sandor Martin. Ortiz is one of those guys that looks huge after he rehydrates. Jamaine isn’t on the level of a Devin Haney, where he’ll rehydrate 25 lbs to 165 lbs and come in as a super middleweight, but he’ll likely have a size advantage over Teofimo on fight night.

Source: Teofimo Lopez Vs. Jamaine Ortiz In The Works For February 8th In Las Vegas - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/12/teofimo-lopez-vs-jamaine-ortiz-in-the-works-for-february-8th-in-las-vegas/

WBO light welterweight champion Teofimo Lopez and lightweight Jamaine Ortiz have a fight in the works for Thursday, February 8th, at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nevada.







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December 20, 2023, 02:55:19 PM
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This is a very risky fight for Teofimo Lopez, Ortiz gave Lomachenko a tough fight when they fought and He's going to give Lopez a much tougher fight, Ortiz is a guy who doesn't back up and has powers on both hands and can deliver lethal body shots, we all know Lopez


Teofimo definitely knows what he is doing.

you say Ortiz is a tough opponent of Lopez but the former losses to Loma via Unanimous decision, I didn't see the struggle there from Loma. Remember that Teo beat Loma, so I think Teo here is the one who should dictate this fight.

I'm not sure if there's an official betting odds yet for this fight, but according to https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/teofimo-lopez-v-jamaine-ortiz/winner

Teo is a heavy favorite with -500 odds.

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December 20, 2023, 03:12:13 PM
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This is a very risky fight for Teofimo Lopez, Ortiz gave Lomachenko a tough fight when they fought and He's going to give Lopez a much tougher fight, Ortiz is a guy who doesn't back up and has powers on both hands and can deliver lethal body shots, we all know Lopez


Teofimo definitely knows what he is doing.

you say Ortiz is a tough opponent of Lopez but the former losses to Loma via Unanimous decision, I didn't see the struggle there from Loma. Remember that Teo beat Loma, so I think Teo here is the one who should dictate this fight.

I'm not sure if there's an official betting odds yet for this fight, but according to https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/teofimo-lopez-v-jamaine-ortiz/winner

Teo is a heavy favorite with -500 odds.

Ortiz though lost against Lomaa still is a high risk against Lopez. He wouldn't be matched with Loma if he hadn't got what it takes but this fight has low rewards for Teo.
Ortiz made a good performance with Loma, he isn't such a weak fighter. But it would have been better if Teo took Matias unification. This isn't even mandatory for Teo.

This is still a good fight to watch. Teo is someone to watch out as this is the peak of his career.


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December 20, 2023, 03:36:39 PM
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Lopez may be a favorite in this fight but Ortiz can deliver a huge upset if Lopez comes out easy in this fight like he did against Sandor Martin, Ortiz has matured after his fight against Loma.
Lopez has a history of undermining his opponents he has done this two times already against Kambosos and then against Sandor and Ortiz is a better fighter than Sandor if we are talking about fight comparison with Lomachenko.
Lopez when he fought Loma, Loma had a shoulder injury, while Ortiz when he fought Loma was 100% in perfect condition, so the comparison will not add up.

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December 20, 2023, 09:18:21 PM
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This is a very risky fight for Teofimo Lopez, Ortiz gave Lomachenko a tough fight when they fought and He's going to give Lopez a much tougher fight, Ortiz is a guy who doesn't back up and has powers on both hands and can deliver lethal body shots, we all know Lopez


Teofimo definitely knows what he is doing.

you say Ortiz is a tough opponent of Lopez but the former losses to Loma via Unanimous decision, I didn't see the struggle there from Loma. Remember that Teo beat Loma, so I think Teo here is the one who should dictate this fight.

I'm not sure if there's an official betting odds yet for this fight, but according to https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/teofimo-lopez-v-jamaine-ortiz/winner

Teo is a heavy favorite with -500 odds.

Ortiz though lost against Lomaa still is a high risk against Lopez. He wouldn't be matched with Loma if he hadn't got what it takes but this fight has low rewards for Teo.
Ortiz made a good performance with Loma, he isn't such a weak fighter. But it would have been better if Teo took Matias unification. This isn't even mandatory for Teo.

This is still a good fight to watch. Teo is someone to watch out as this is the peak of his career.

Ortiz was matched against Loma not because he is a tougher opponent for him, he was match because they know that Loma can beat him. So the same case here with Top Rank picking up a fighter that has been beaten to be a get busy fight for Lopez.

We thought that Lopez wanted to fight Matias for the IBF belt, but that is a big risk for his team.

And so they settled against someone that Loma has beaten already. Very careful match making in the part of Top Rank and not risking their 140 lbs champion.

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December 20, 2023, 09:44:30 PM
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Lopez may be a favorite in this fight but Ortiz can deliver a huge upset if Lopez comes out easy in this fight like he did against Sandor Martin, Ortiz has matured after his fight against Loma.
Lopez has a history of undermining his opponents he has done this two times already against Kambosos and then against Sandor and Ortiz is a better fighter than Sandor if we are talking about fight comparison with Lomachenko.
Lopez when he fought Loma, Loma had a shoulder injury, while Ortiz when he fought Loma was 100% in perfect condition, so the comparison will not add up.

Ortiz gave Loma a problem, because of his height and probably that Ortiz is really big, but fortunately, Loma was able to overcome him. I think Lopez shouldn't underestimate Ortiz, he has the power and if he caught Lopez by chance, then he could pull a upset.

But barring those, I think Lopez can win in a hard fight, maybe this fight will go to distance and going into the judges scorecard.

And if there are close rounds, we all know that judges usually gave it to the champions so maybe UD for Lopez but very close in the cards, maybe 8-4 rounds at least for Lopez.
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December 20, 2023, 11:26:28 PM
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Lopez may be a favorite in this fight but Ortiz can deliver a huge upset if Lopez comes out easy in this fight like he did against Sandor Martin, Ortiz has matured after his fight against Loma.
Lopez has a history of undermining his opponents he has done this two times already against Kambosos and then against Sandor and Ortiz is a better fighter than Sandor if we are talking about fight comparison with Lomachenko.
Lopez when he fought Loma, Loma had a shoulder injury, while Ortiz when he fought Loma was 100% in perfect condition, so the comparison will not add up.

Let's see, I also consider this as a tough fight for Lopez specially that Ortiz is no longer has to squeeze his body to 135 lbs as he is moving to 140 lbs. The only problem with Ortiz is that he usually faded in the later rounds but maybe it was due to him really having a hard time making 135. So him moving might do more good on him.

So Teo shouldn't underestimate Ortiz here, as this two has history in the amateur Lopez beat Ortiz in the National Golden Gloves Quarterfinal way back 2015.

Maybe this is payback for Ortiz, or Teo retaining his belt in a hard fight. And most likely Teo Lopez will be the favorite here, maybe Ortiz 3:1 underdog (I haven't check crypto sports bookies yet).

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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

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December 21, 2023, 09:17:29 AM
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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

He only had one lose against George Kambosos Jr, the boxer that was schooled by Devin Haney two times. Teo had a statement that he was not anymore comfortable on that weight os he moved up and he proved his excuse was true. Beating Josh Taylor who's also a champion, that would say a lot about the skills of Teo, and as long as he is very confident in the division he's holding now, I doubt a challenger who failed against Loma has a chance of upsetting him.

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December 21, 2023, 09:53:42 AM
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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

He only had one lose against George Kambosos Jr, the boxer that was schooled by Devin Haney two times. Teo had a statement that he was not anymore comfortable on that weight os he moved up and he proved his excuse was true. Beating Josh Taylor who's also a champion, that would say a lot about the skills of Teo, and as long as he is very confident in the division he's holding now, I doubt a challenger who failed against Loma has a chance of upsetting him.

What we are seeing on Teo now is a more matured and smarter boxer. His loss to Kambosos was a wake up call that he cannot be too cocky all the time and underestimate his opponent.

If we watch again the fight, we will see that Teo aren't playing defense and was just trying to look for a one punch KO, but it's unfortunate for him as Kambosos wasn't playing around, he was too focus with his counterpunches that hurt Teo although Teo survived in the fight. That mistake will never happen again.

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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

He only had one lose against George Kambosos Jr, the boxer that was schooled by Devin Haney two times. Teo had a statement that he was not anymore comfortable on that weight os he moved up and he proved his excuse was true. Beating Josh Taylor who's also a champion, that would say a lot about the skills of Teo, and as long as he is very confident in the division he's holding now, I doubt a challenger who failed against Loma has a chance of upsetting him.

What we are seeing on Teo now is a more matured and smarter boxer. His loss to Kambosos was a wake up call that he cannot be too cocky all the time and underestimate his opponent.

If we watch again the fight, we will see that Teo aren't playing defense and was just trying to look for a one punch KO, but it's unfortunate for him as Kambosos wasn't playing around, he was too focus with his counterpunches that hurt Teo although Teo survived in the fight. That mistake will never happen again.
If I'm not mistaken, Teo was able able to knock down Kambosos in that fight? So he was trying to make a comeback, unfortunately he just fell short, but the scores were very close. So most likely it could go either way in that fight, if only Teo was very careful early and not let Kambosos take control.

But here it might be very different, for Ortiz, first time to move in 140 lbs, so there's no more weight drain. But we haven't seen his power yet or whether he can carry his true power in this weight class. So let's give Ortiz a benefit of a doubt and that it could be a better fight, more thant we expected.

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It's now final, Teofimo Lopez Vs. Jamaine Ortiz will square off for the WBO Welterweight Title on February 8

Looking at their record and of course their attitude in the ring , this is a Lopez advantageous fight because he has a large numbers of knock outs while Ortiz has only few .

and watching their fights now, I finally convinced that this is a lopez bout to win unanimously .









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December 21, 2023, 11:21:47 AM
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Ortiz is a good contender but his best fights have been at lightweight. If he couldn't defeat Loma then I don't see how he can beat Teofimo in a higher weight class. We've seen Teo struggle against average fighters but maybe the win against Josh Taylor will give him the confidence he had been lacking in previous fights. This should be a nice showcase during Super Bowl week in Las Vegas. There will be lots of attention on this fight and if he wins Teofimo's next fight could be a PPV against Matias in New York.

He only had one lose against George Kambosos Jr, the boxer that was schooled by Devin Haney two times. Teo had a statement that he was not anymore comfortable on that weight os he moved up and he proved his excuse was true. Beating Josh Taylor who's also a champion, that would say a lot about the skills of Teo, and as long as he is very confident in the division he's holding now, I doubt a challenger who failed against Loma has a chance of upsetting him.

He has rebounded from the Martin performance to a win against the best 140 lbs in Josh Taylor. Taylor hasn't lose his belt, he did vacant it or force to, although there was signs that he might have lost to Jack Catterall and is the sign that he is declining. Just sad though that after unifying all the belts, suddenly his performance decline, I haven't seen that kind of boxer though, that after fulfilling his dreams it seems that he is very different.

Anyhow, back to Teo Lopez, he is now the lineal champion at 140 lbs and so he will likely to be the man here unless Ortiz suddenly become a great fighter at 140 lbs.

I'm expecting Lopez to win and then continue his reign and go after Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney.

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December 21, 2023, 11:41:46 AM
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Looking at their record and of course their attitude in the ring , this is a Lopez advantageous fight because he has a large numbers of knock outs while Ortiz has only few .

and watching their fights now, I finally convinced that this is a lopez bout to win unanimously .

Before Teofimo gained popularity, everyone was talking about Lomachenko, as he was a top pound-for-pound fighter in the past. So, whoever beats him is already considered a great fighter. Regarding Loma's record, I would only count his two losses as they occurred during his prime. Only two boxers were able to defeat him: Haney and Teofimo. It's pretty obvious that Teofimo, being a champion, is a high-caliber kind of boxer, so Jamaine Ortiz is unlikely to win, unless Teofimo goes emotional and losses his focus.

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December 21, 2023, 11:50:29 AM
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. It's pretty obvious that Teofimo, being a champion, is a high-caliber kind of boxer, so Jamaine Ortiz is unlikely to win, unless Teofimo goes emotional and losses his focus.

He has a history of that first with Kambosos and second with Sandor Martin, he is hard-headed if an opponent gets in his head he has a hard time focusing on his game or plan, he has a history of wanting to prove that he can knock out his opponent and that eagerness always caught up with his plan, same with his father who's part of making things worse for Teofimo Lopez, so if Teofimo get emotional Jemaine Ortiz can take him down, the guy is capable.
I will not rule out an upset as Ortiz has a good record and is also a good finisher if Lopez makes a grave mistake, Ortiz will take that opportunity.

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December 21, 2023, 12:05:20 PM
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Anyhow, back to Teo Lopez, he is now the lineal champion at 140 lbs and so he will likely to be the man here unless Ortiz suddenly become a great fighter at 140 lbs.

I'm expecting Lopez to win and then continue his reign and go after Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney.

Looking at the record of Ortiz (17-1-1), i don't think he poses a threat to Teo Lopez. He is not a knockout puncher so even if he hits Teo with solid shots, i don't think he could rattle Teo. Anyways, this is a good fight as to keep the lineal champion busy next year as a fight with Ryan Garcia or Devin Haney is looming in the horizon.
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Anyhow, back to Teo Lopez, he is now the lineal champion at 140 lbs and so he will likely to be the man here unless Ortiz suddenly become a great fighter at 140 lbs.

I'm expecting Lopez to win and then continue his reign and go after Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney.

Looking at the record of Ortiz (17-1-1), i don't think he poses a threat to Teo Lopez. He is not a knockout puncher so even if he hits Teo with solid shots, i don't think he could rattle Teo. Anyways, this is a good fight as to keep the lineal champion busy next year as a fight with Ryan Garcia or Devin Haney is looming in the horizon.

I guess the performance of Ortiz against Loma has somewhat put his name on the spotlight at 135 lbs. He did give Loma a good fight because he is big and we can show that he has power but not a knockout artist.

And so with him going up another weight class, maybe others think that he can have more power here. I'm seeing this fight like the Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte. In paper Duarte was a good fighter, but when he faces Garcia inside the ring, it was a total different story. So this is like a cherry pick for Teo but they need to create hype of Ortiz as somewhat a threat to him or his belt.
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Jemaine Ortiz is not a patsy and if Teofimo will take it easy and take him for granted just like what he did to Kambosos and Sandor Martin, he will find himself in big trouble, Ortiz is capable he may be a cherry-picked fighter but it's not an easy fighter to deal with, although Loma beat him by a unanimous decision, he shows that he can keep up with a tough fighter like Loma.
The fight is on Kambosos if he is in tough shape then he can easily beat Ortiz but if he takes it easy Jemaine can give a tough fight, it's going to be interesting in the first 3 rounds of the fight.

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Jemaine Ortiz is not a patsy and if Teofimo will take it easy and take him for granted just like what he did to Kambosos and Sandor Martin, he will find himself in big trouble, Ortiz is capable he may be a cherry-picked fighter but it's not an easy fighter to deal with, although Loma beat him by a unanimous decision, he shows that he can keep up with a tough fighter like Loma.
The fight is on Kambosos if he is in tough shape then he can easily beat Ortiz but if he takes it easy Jemaine can give a tough fight, it's going to be interesting in the first 3 rounds of the fight.

If Lopez cherry-picked him then Lopez camp believe that they will win. No one would cherry picked a fighter that they think will give a trouble to the champion, so this isn't too interesting IMO. Maybe if this is mandatory, then we can discuss that Jamaine Ortiz  has a decent chance of beating Lopez.

As per in the Jr. Welterweight ranking in WBO which is Teofimo Lopez is the current champion, Jamaine Ortiz is only ranked at number 11, so that says a lot about this as a cherry picked fight which Teofimo won't have a problem dealing with.

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I thought Lopez has already announced his retirement from professional boxing? These boxers announcing retirement cannot stick to their word probably because of money and the desire to fight.

Ortiz is probably an easy opponent for Teofimo. Teofimo is still quick, so in terms of points he may outscore Ortiz. In terms of powerful punch that will bring the fight to an end anytime within rounds, Teofimo has also more power than Ortiz, so I think Lopez is still at an advantage. But I voted Lopez by UD.
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