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February 09, 2024, 09:42:59 AM
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I don't know but it seems that Teo is very emotional boxer and he just shows his emotion after that fight. Perhaps it was his mentality going to the fight or he thinks he was lucky enough to get the judges decision and he should knock Ortiz out and not go to the judges scorecard.

Ortiz went as high as 7:1 underdog here so very hard to see him winning and pull that upset.

So Lopez retain his belt and obviously should look for money fight next, Ryan Garcia could be a good fight for both of them as both are stars and so there will be big PPV numbers I reckon.
Lopez deserves the win if you're a challenger you should be the one to chase the champion and try to take away the title from the champion, unfortunately, Ortiz employed a safe path hoping that his hit-and-run tactic would work, but the judges favored Lopez who dare Ortiz to engage but all through the fight he just want to play cat and mouse, anyway if he will engage Lopez he knows he's going to get knocked out by Lopez.
Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.

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February 09, 2024, 09:53:21 AM
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I don't know but it seems that Teo is very emotional boxer and he just shows his emotion after that fight. Perhaps it was his mentality going to the fight or he thinks he was lucky enough to get the judges decision and he should knock Ortiz out and not go to the judges scorecard.

Ortiz went as high as 7:1 underdog here so very hard to see him winning and pull that upset.

So Lopez retain his belt and obviously should look for money fight next, Ryan Garcia could be a good fight for both of them as both are stars and so there will be big PPV numbers I reckon.
Lopez deserves the win if you're a challenger you should be the one to chase the champion and try to take away the title from the champion, unfortunately, Ortiz employed a safe path hoping that his hit-and-run tactic would work, but the judges favored Lopez who dare Ortiz to engage but all through the fight he just want to play cat and mouse, anyway if he will engage Lopez he knows he's going to get knocked out by Lopez.
Very frustrating on the part of the champion and he wants to give the fans a very entertaining fight. Unfortunately, the challenger didn't come to fight but just to survive, and I like how the judges saw the fight, they gave it to the defending champion because Ortiz  is not deserving to become a champion, it will be added to another boring champion in the history of boxing, so no.

Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.

I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.

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February 09, 2024, 10:35:16 AM
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I don't know but it seems that Teo is very emotional boxer and he just shows his emotion after that fight. Perhaps it was his mentality going to the fight or he thinks he was lucky enough to get the judges decision and he should knock Ortiz out and not go to the judges scorecard.

Ortiz went as high as 7:1 underdog here so very hard to see him winning and pull that upset.

So Lopez retain his belt and obviously should look for money fight next, Ryan Garcia could be a good fight for both of them as both are stars and so there will be big PPV numbers I reckon.
Lopez deserves the win if you're a challenger you should be the one to chase the champion and try to take away the title from the champion, unfortunately, Ortiz employed a safe path hoping that his hit-and-run tactic would work, but the judges favored Lopez who dare Ortiz to engage but all through the fight he just want to play cat and mouse, anyway if he will engage Lopez he knows he's going to get knocked out by Lopez.
Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.

LOL, Listen about Teo Lopez on Subriel Matias,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/utYGTKY5g4M

I think this could be a good storyboard for this fight, Lopez calling Matias, one dimensional fighter, softest fighter in the division.

So tell Arum to negotiate and fight him and annexed his IBF this year Teo. And yeah, style makes fight so this is going to be a good fight indeed. But it seems that Teo is full of confidence here.

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February 09, 2024, 11:27:42 AM
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Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.

I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.

That's to ensure that the fight will not be boring. Ryan has a height advantage on Lopez IMO but they are a good match. This fight, based on the bookmakers, Lopez was the heavy favorite, but maybe if Ryan and him will face each other, it will be a close match making only Lopez a slight favorite.

I can't wait to see it, I hope people will ask for it and the two will agree so they can finalize it as soon as possible.

Jamaine Ortiz just could not hurt Lopez, well, we can't blame him though, his KO rate is very low, that's why.

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February 09, 2024, 11:37:52 AM
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Lopez needs to fight a good fighter in his next fight, not someone who just employs a hit-and-run tactic and Ryan could give him that, or SubrieL Matias who is a pressure fighter, that's the fight worth watching.

I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.

That's to ensure that the fight will not be boring. Ryan has a height advantage on Lopez IMO but they are a good match. This fight, based on the bookmakers, Lopez was the heavy favorite, but maybe if Ryan and him will face each other, it will be a close match making only Lopez a slight favorite.

I can't want to see it, I hope peope will ask for it and the two will agree so they can finalize it as soon as possible.
This is a rumor, that means people wants to see the fight to happen. Enough for Lopez fighting a non caliber boxer, he should go for a good caliber boxer like Ryan Garcia and has an appeal to the public, as that's the recipe for a successful fight. Entertain the crowd and they'll make good money, I think Lopez wouldn't let this opportunity pass if it will come on his door.

Jamaine Ortiz just could not hurt Lopez, well, we can't blame him though, his KO rate is very low, that's why.
How could he hurt a boxer if doesn't throw solid punches? I get this strategy, he just want to hit and run (score), but he isn't as quick as the well known hit and run boxer like Mayweather and Haney, so his strategy was not effective and the decision was fair.
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February 09, 2024, 12:31:58 PM
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I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.

That's to ensure that the fight will not be boring. Ryan has a height advantage on Lopez IMO but they are a good match. This fight, based on the bookmakers, Lopez was the heavy favorite, but maybe if Ryan and him will face each other, it will be a close match making only Lopez a slight favorite.

I can't wait to see it, I hope people will ask for it and the two will agree so they can finalize it as soon as possible.
 

Both Lopez and Ryan Garcia are full of pride and have too much ego it's going to be tough doing a deal on both of them they will be issues on the share of the pot PPV sales and who will top bill the match, but it's a good fight to make for promoters, it will be like Davis - Garcia where there's a lot of dramas and controversy involve.
Ryan needs to have a title all the best fighters have earned their titles like Hanry, Davis, Romero, and Lopez, he is the only popular fighter without a title, the title Instagram king is not very attractive for a fighter of Garcia's caliber.
It's up to Teofimo to decide who he wants to fight but a unification or fighting a top-level fighter is good for his career and legacy.

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February 09, 2024, 01:11:15 PM
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Jamaine Ortiz just could not hurt Lopez, well, we can't blame him though, his KO rate is very low, that's why.

If you look at the match he's not trying to knock out Lopez, he's just to connect and run, the match is so boring that Lopez complaints after one of the rounds that Ortiz did not want to fight, and the unanimous decision in favor of Lopez is a good decision, but the panel scorecard have it a draw surprisingly.
If you want to win the title you have to go for it, as a challenger you must challenge the champion and go toe-to-toe something that Ortiz failed to do, he's not goign to be a great champion if he only runs and does not engage, there's a lot of boing on that fight because of Ortiz.
Ortiz will have a hard time selling his next fight
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February 09, 2024, 02:45:35 PM
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Jamaine Ortiz just could not hurt Lopez, well, we can't blame him though, his KO rate is very low, that's why.

If you look at the match he's not trying to knock out Lopez, he's just to connect and run, the match is so boring that Lopez complaints after one of the rounds that Ortiz did not want to fight, and the unanimous decision in favor of Lopez is a good decision, but the panel scorecard have it a draw surprisingly.
If you want to win the title you have to go for it, as a challenger you must challenge the champion and go toe-to-toe something that Ortiz failed to do, he's not goign to be a great champion if he only runs and does not engage, there's a lot of boing on that fight because of Ortiz.
Ortiz will have a hard time selling his next fight

He did not take the risk of getting himself open as he probably felt that he cannot withstand the power of Lopez. He was just hitting Lopez for points purpose, but not enough to prevent the champion from being aggressive. A fighter would only change his style if he is inferior in the fight, and we've seen that on Ortiz in that fight, so that fight was like a mismatch, a waste of hard earned money  for those who availed the PPV and pay for the tickets.

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February 10, 2024, 07:54:56 AM
Last edit: February 10, 2024, 08:45:18 AM by Maslate
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I like Ryan for him, he is still the champion so Ryan will have to challenge him. he deserve a big fight and with Ryan, it will be a sure blockbuster fight, so hopefully it will happen this year, probably in the 2nd half of the year.

That's to ensure that the fight will not be boring. Ryan has a height advantage on Lopez IMO but they are a good match. This fight, based on the bookmakers, Lopez was the heavy favorite, but maybe if Ryan and him will face each other, it will be a close match making only Lopez a slight favorite.

I can't wait to see it, I hope people will ask for it and the two will agree so they can finalize it as soon as possible.
 

Both Lopez and Ryan Garcia are full of pride and have too much ego it's going to be tough doing a deal on both of them they will be issues on the share of the pot PPV sales and who will top bill the match, but it's a good fight to make for promoters, it will be like Davis - Garcia where there's a lot of dramas and controversy involve.
Ryan needs to have a title all the best fighters have earned their titles like Hanry, Davis, Romero, and Lopez, he is the only popular fighter without a title, the title Instagram king is not very attractive for a fighter of Garcia's caliber.
It's up to Teofimo to decide who he wants to fight but a unification or fighting a top-level fighter is good for his career and legacy.

Look like Ryan Garcia has an upcoming fight, a big fight.

There's a thread that you can find here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484623.0... It's the thread of Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney. That's going to be an exciting fight to watch as Ryan now have slowly learn the technique on how to be a defensive fight, he use that style on his last fight where he scored a KO.

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Ortiz is going to lose big fights promotion because Arum was so disappointed in this fight


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“It was really terrible,” Arum told BoxingScene.com. “I mean, we didn’t know this would happen. We’ve had [Ortiz] fight some big fights for us and he was always very competitive, a good warrior. This wasn’t a fight. He was running around the ring. That isn’t boxing. I don’t know how the officials scored it as close as they did. At most, I gave [Ortiz] two rounds, maybe three rounds. But people are paying good money to watch good athletic competition, and this was disgraceful.”

Bob Arum: Jamaine Ortiz Was Running Around The Ring; That Isn’t Boxing; This Was Disgraceful

As a boxing promoter who has seen thousands of fights he doesn't want to see a boring fight with a fighter who refuses to engage, he is right in saying that the boxing community paid money to see actions, not a boxer who runs around the ring, the boxing community has been shortchanged by this fight.
Honestly, it was a boring fight I preferred to play mine game I was more excited to play that game than watch Ortiz run all night.
I don't know if I will watch Jermaine Ortiz again it's not worth my time and I'm sure many of us will not.

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