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December 22, 2023, 08:09:01 PM
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Whatsoever you overdo becomes a problem and trading is not an exception to that, and the more you trade, the more you become confused, and likely you are to make silly mistakes which will finally result in you incurring unnecessary loses. You don't need to trade so often to make huge profits in the marketin fact, over trading will likely lead someone to being a trading addict if care is not taken. The market is all about being calculative before taking your decision and being discipline.

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December 22, 2023, 08:40:52 PM
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Newbies are easily influenced by unreliable crypto influencers that trading can go a long way and can even make them get rich quick if they have the persistency to trade. While it's partly true, but we all know that if we trade without sufficient knowledge about the basics in trading, we will never be successful with trading. Instead of seeing it as a way to reach our fortune, it could even lead to the worst scenario, that is getting suck from all our losses and even used up all our hard-earned money and wealth.

With that, overtrading can turn us into a state of distitute because we follow our greed over our our right thinking.

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December 22, 2023, 09:25:36 PM
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Trading is not a get rich quick just like beginners have perceived it. The reason why beginners think that it's okay to overtrade as it also increase their chances to be in profits. But trading does not work like that. The more you trade without knowledge but only followed your greed, the more likely you will end up into losing your money.

Trading requires skills and strategies to make it work and successful. But if people tend to trade even without those, then expect that they won't be trading to be in profits but for huge losses. Most especially if they resort into overtrading, that will easily lose their finances in less time.

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December 23, 2023, 05:53:23 AM
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one of the things that makes traders experience more losses than profits is because they have the wrong approach in their involvement, of course patience is one of the things that every trader must have because with it you can minimize some actions that should not be done, one of which may act out of control because of emotions due to losses. But this is trading where if there is a profit opportunity then there will always be potential losses, the two things cannot be separated. And agree that most who experience losses quite often are beginners who have just come, as I said above that they come with the wrong approach, because usually they only focus on profit opportunities compared to risks while on the other hand they do not have the experience and skills that are qualified so that instead of getting profits but the opposite happens, namely suffering the number of losses.

That is why it is not uncommon for some novice traders who have just gotten involved but have already withdrawn or failed due to not being able to withstand all the losses they have experienced. Not understanding the concept of trading is also bad, we are human beings with feelings and if you do not understand trading along with what should be prepared for prevention then obviously out of control behavior is very likely to occur, which is why we must have risk management, take profit and stop los, it is very important to keep you from experiencing significant losses and avoid greed.
I understand that it is going to be tough to do this, because waiting for the right time could be a while and some people can't wait that long and make mistakes, but also we need to understand them as well. I mean if we focus on just the people who end up not making a mistake it is going to be a tough deal, it is not going to be easy at all.

I hope that people could end up with something much easier and better, we just need to make sure that it is going to end up with something that should be getting to a point where it may end up doing greater with waiting period. I think it's both understandable and also not that bad to have no patience towards trading, it is wrong, but it is an understandable wrong that many people are making daily.

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December 23, 2023, 06:56:11 AM
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Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
Well, I think many people have high enthusiasm. To be honest, I was also very excited when I found out about crypto, and hoped I could make a lot of money from there.
However, situations like this happen very often, where people who are new to this business are very excited and hope to easily make money from trading. Well, whatever it is, they will try to start it. they will learn once they have started either they will stay and continue learning, or get out of trading instantly. Just enough, sometimes people get too excited and use all the money they have or more than they can afford to lose to start something new without knowing the risks. So, it would be wise to do research, and use minimal funds to get started.


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December 23, 2023, 08:54:13 AM
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Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
The mistake that most newbies makes about trading is that they always forget to start from the basic which is spot trading before venturing into futures trading. Myself I traded spot for more than six months before I started futures trading. As a trader you have have to set a target for yourself within the week and it has to be a target that is realistic, and once this target has been achieved you stop trading for the week.

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Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.

That's your strategy, everyone can't be like you and that's how trading is, what works for you might not work for any individual. Some individual can trade daily and although they might not make profits everyday but at the end of the week or when they do their monthly wrap-up they'll be making profits. It doesn't also matter how long you take to trade or if you trade constantly, if you don't know how to make profits you still won't be successful at trading.

Trading everyday doesn't make you to be over trading, if you're making profits and you're not getting addicted then you can continue trading but when you're losing and still trading then you're doing something wrong and you need to stop trading or you'll lose all your money. Chasing after your loses is wrong and can be considered over trading as you'll exceeding your trading limit chasing losses.

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December 23, 2023, 10:19:40 AM
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The mistake that most newbies makes about trading is that they always forget to start from the basic which is spot trading before venturing into futures trading. Myself I traded spot for more than six months before I started futures trading. As a trader you have have to set a target for yourself within the week and it has to be a target that is realistic, and once this target has been achieved you stop trading for the week.

Future trade is very risky when you don't know about trading, then you should not do future trade at all, but spot trading is also not so easy, it also requires good experience. It is not that a newbies starts spot trading and earns profits. You have gained experience in spot trading before and that is good, but good experience is gained by trading with very small amount in the beginning. This is because you can avoid more losses due to any mistake. Newbies often make more mistakes and learn from those mistakes.

 I also used to make mistakes in almost most of the trades in the beginning, but because of the small amount I did not suffer much loss. Even if you have six months of experience in spot trading, still try to stay away from futures trading as futures trading can hurt you more. In trading every person wants to get maximum profit so no target can be set as much profit as possible every person is trading according to this calculation. However, your advice is also correct.









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December 23, 2023, 10:29:54 AM
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I agree.

They never stop, even though they made more than enough already, that's why they ended up having nothing because of their lose streaks. It's not bad to be greedy, but sometimes it goes up in our heads, being too confident that the market will always go to our way that's why they suffered a lot of losses instead of one or few big wins in a day. They always want big leverage to flex it on social media, which make their trade vulnerable to liquidation.
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December 23, 2023, 10:39:27 AM
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Whatsoever you overdo becomes a problem and trading is not an exception to that, and the more you trade, the more you become confused, and likely you are to make silly mistakes which will finally result in you incurring unnecessary loses. You don't need to trade so often to make huge profits in the marketin fact, over trading will likely lead someone to being a trading addict if care is not taken. The market is all about being calculative before taking your decision and being discipline.


As a trader, you should have days when you don't trade. These days can be used for enjoyment or to gain new ideas on how to be a better trader. When a trader trades consistently, it impacts and may cause confusion, as you stated. It will be even more satisfying if everything is done one step at a time. And becoming addicted to trading will not end well since the trader will want to make profits at all costs, greed will set in, and the trader's thinking will begin to change course. Trading with calmness will be a good combo for a successful trading.

Newbies are easily influenced by unreliable crypto influencers that trading can go a long way and can even make them get rich quick if they have the persistency to trade. While it's partly true, but we all know that if we trade without sufficient knowledge about the basics in trading, we will never be successful with trading. Instead of seeing it as a way to reach our fortune, it could even lead to the worst scenario, that is getting suck from all our losses and even used up all our hard-earned money and wealth.

With that, overtrading can turn us into a state of distitute because we follow our greed over our our right thinking.
Most people who tell you about trading and investing in bitcoin will only tell you about the good things you can get from it. While there are benefits, there are also plenty of challenges that you will face as a trader, such as losing money, which is unavoidable in bitcoin. And having information in anything you accomplish in life is always beneficial, as your mood functioning will be different from that of someone who does not have knowledge.  Get the knowledge first then benefits follow next. The trader just have to make decisions that will help him become a successful trader.

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December 23, 2023, 10:46:21 AM
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I agree.

They never stop, even though they made more than enough already, that's why they ended up having nothing because of their lose streaks. It's not bad to be greedy, but sometimes it goes up in our heads, being too confident that the market will always go to our way that's why they suffered a lot of losses instead of one or few big wins in a day. They always want big leverage to flex it on social media, which make their trade vulnerable to liquidation.

Yes, there are traders who overdo their positions. Instead of making some decent but failed to stop and ended up losing them money,
positioning is very important and like what you said, being greed is not bad.

But if you don't do things the right way, you will see yourself regretting. Most of those who lose because of trying to add more with their earnings
realize this kind of mistake.

And those who manage to adopt and use the experienced to control their emotions and limit their trade earn decently.
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December 23, 2023, 10:48:44 AM
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That's your strategy, everyone can't be like you and that's how trading is, what works for you might not work for any individual. Some individual can trade daily and although they might not make profits everyday but at the end of the week or when they do their monthly wrap-up they'll be making profits. It doesn't also matter how long you take to trade or if you trade constantly, if you don't know how to make profits you still won't be successful at trading.

Trading everyday doesn't make you to be over trading, if you're making profits and you're not getting addicted then you can continue trading but when you're losing and still trading then you're doing something wrong and you need to stop trading or you'll lose all your money. Chasing after your loses is wrong and can be considered over trading as you'll exceeding your trading limit chasing losses.
Any overwork will affect the results of our work, no matter trading or any other work. And trading, by the way, is an even more complex job that requires constant concentration, especially when it comes to day trading. If we trade chaotically without a specific regime and without rules, then overwork will negatively affect us.

I see that successful traders can choose the most productive time for themselves, some see that they achieve the best results in the morning, so they trade only at this time, and the rest of the time they do other things.
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one of the things that makes traders experience more losses than profits is because they have the wrong approach in their involvement, of course patience is one of the things that every trader must have because with it you can minimize some actions that should not be done, one of which may act out of control because of emotions due to losses. But this is trading where if there is a profit opportunity then there will always be potential losses, the two things cannot be separated. And agree that most who experience losses quite often are beginners who have just come, as I said above that they come with the wrong approach, because usually they only focus on profit opportunities compared to risks while on the other hand they do not have the experience and skills that are qualified so that instead of getting profits but the opposite happens, namely suffering the number of losses.

That is why it is not uncommon for some novice traders who have just gotten involved but have already withdrawn or failed due to not being able to withstand all the losses they have experienced. Not understanding the concept of trading is also bad, we are human beings with feelings and if you do not understand trading along with what should be prepared for prevention then obviously out of control behavior is very likely to occur, which is why we must have risk management, take profit and stop los, it is very important to keep you from experiencing significant losses and avoid greed.
I understand that it is going to be tough to do this, because waiting for the right time could be a while and some people can't wait that long and make mistakes, but also we need to understand them as well. I mean if we focus on just the people who end up not making a mistake it is going to be a tough deal, it is not going to be easy at all.

I hope that people could end up with something much easier and better, we just need to make sure that it is going to end up with something that should be getting to a point where it may end up doing greater with waiting period. I think it's both understandable and also not that bad to have no patience towards trading, it is wrong, but it is an understandable wrong that many people are making daily.

Yes I admit it is difficult but in my opinion for people who are really serious in their intentions and determination I think nothing is impossible, we can see that there are those who succeed and those who fail, the question is what people who succeed do and what people who fail do, and if others can why can't we? of course for that problem I only say overall because of course everyone has their own capacity in terms of learning ability. On the other hand I think for the problem of whether or not it takes a long time to wait for the right time in my opinion it will also return to the learning ability of each person before they are involved in the actual trade, if indeed they have a good learning capacity then I think the learning will not take too long, and of course for that problem only they themselves can judge. On the other hand I think mistakes are natural in any field when someone is in the process, there will be no success if there are no mistakes that can be learned, of course they can start slowly while learning.

All of this is a choice, if indeed they feel able to get involved in the world of trading with all the difficulties that exist then please do, there is nothing wrong with trying and don't focus too much on profits if you are still in the early stages of involvement, if you feel fine and can get through all the difficulties then continue because chances are maybe this is the right profession for you. Basically you never know if you don't try.

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Overtrade can be simply explained as greed or can directly compare with it. People overtrade when they think that they will make extra profits from it. But eventually when the time passes, they end up making losses. It’s mostly seen from newbies if I have to be frank. This is common, and you need to work on it in order to control. I would suggest to keep smaller profit targets whenever trading. Once the target is achieved just cashout from the market. This is the best strategy, and you will not end up in losses.
Certainly it is greed. They can't just say that they over-trade for nothing but the main motive is trying or wanting to earn more. Although IDK, maybe it's also possible that they over-trade because they want to practice more? Or they simply enjoyed it? I think that anyone can over-trade, so we shouldn't always attacked the newbies.

In fact, newbies can be more careful about their action because they still lack in knowledge and experience. Whilst the experienced users are more confident about their ability so they may want to face more risk. Your given strategy seems great. But it also has a downside, and that is, we can end up paying more fees. Trading is still/always uncertain no matter what. So don't say that we won't lose anymore once we do your strategy.

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December 23, 2023, 02:37:27 PM
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Newbies are easily influenced by unreliable crypto influencers that trading can go a long way and can even make them get rich quick if they have the persistency to trade. While it's partly true, but we all know that if we trade without sufficient knowledge about the basics in trading, we will never be successful with trading. Instead of seeing it as a way to reach our fortune, it could even lead to the worst scenario, that is getting suck from all our losses and even used up all our hard-earned money and wealth.

With that, overtrading can turn us into a state of distitute because we follow our greed over our our right thinking.
Many peo6migjt not know that over trading is a problem to even our mental health but many might not know the consequences in the later future. Whwther we are a crypto trader or fiat trader, we need to work with strategy and try to focus on what we give us profits in the market as traders that we are. We can make money in the market if we know how to trade very well and take quick decisions in time of uncertainty. We can stay more focus and trader according to our Capital and not becoming greedy.









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Whatsoever you overdo becomes a problem and trading is not an exception to that, and the more you trade, the more you become confused, and likely you are to make silly mistakes which will finally result in you incurring unnecessary loses. You don't need to trade so often to make huge profits in the marketin fact, over trading will likely lead someone to being a trading addict if care is not taken. The market is all about being calculative before taking your decision and being discipline.
There is nothing we overdo that doesn't have its consequence, and in trading, overtrading will surely affect traders negatively if care is not taken. It might not happen on the very first day, but the repetition of such can't have a good ending. What causes overtrading? Nothing but emotion. Be it when the trader is excited, maybe for winning and wants to win more (greed), or it could be for a bad trading day where the trader is trying to gain back his losses and thereby overtrading and making mistakes (revenge). Either way, it is so bad for traders to overtrade, this has impaired the psychology already, the trader is trading under the influence of emotion, nothing less, unless the trader is such that is so strong in his mind. There is no way he will not make mistakes. But for a few traders who actually follow their trading systems thoroughly, what people might call overtrading might not entirely be it. Still, such traders must be very careful of overconfidence for them not to lose by believing too much in themselves.

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December 23, 2023, 03:26:46 PM
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In a community in this business field, if you know for yourself that you are making a profit in crypto trading because you have deep knowledge of trading, then I think what you say about trade has no space in their thoughts.

If you trade and are hindered in your trading activity, I can even say that you will be able to overtrade, as you say. In short, if you are knowledgeable about trading, you will not lose profit every day for sure.

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YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
that is so true. I've seen many of those so-called Youtube traders they even trade in live streams and show that they are making a lot of profit live at that moment. I really don't know if that is really possible or not maybe it  is possible with huge cables. but the sad thing is so many new traders with $50 to $100 follow their paths and end up losing all their investments.
I think they should teach new traders how trading works, and what are the odds and chances of losing and winning.  people see them as mentors they should really live up to that standard.









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December 23, 2023, 03:58:32 PM
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YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
Trading Gambling If you continue it for a long time without taking a break, you will lose one time, so the desire to get rich must be kept under control at all times, otherwise you will have to face a big loss. It is possible to make a lot of profit through trading by doing technical analysis but analysis only gives a possible direction it never guarantees profit. So no matter how professional one is he cannot guarantee that every trade will be successful. In this case it is true that one who trades more will also lose more



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December 23, 2023, 04:18:30 PM
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Yeah if you do something for a long time only for trading the attention decreases so if you take a break for some time you can focus on the work and it is easier to consider the market. Everyone knows that trading involves risk so patience is needed to get good results. Not all coins are possible to succeed. A good market research will help you choose the right coin and know the right time to trade.

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