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December 30, 2023, 11:37:35 AM
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People would really be able to learn up on hardway on which they would really be just starting to realize things on the time that they would really be encountering those unfortunate conditions. Whereas, they could really be able to avoid it out on the first place if they are really just that mindful on the things that they are dealing with and not something that they would really be that sticking into those things that they do have initially believed. yes, its not bad to stick into those plans but we do know that there are plans which are needed to be that changed for you to move forward. Overtrading is really that a common behavior of most newbies on which we do really have in mind that the more we do trade the more chances that we could hit up a good trade on which it is really that very wrong.

Sooner or later you would be able to realize on to those things werent just that right for you to deal with. There's no way that you could really be able to stop those losses and mistakes to be done.
This is why adjustments would really be that crucial or something that be in default on which you would really be needing to do so.

Adjustments and lots of it is really needed to have a better chance in terms of trading, with how the way you trade will always need assessment and better analyzis in order to know if you are still doing the right thing or you are already being beaten by greed inside you and you are doing it the way like you are gambling with opportunities.

Over trading which exceeding from your limits might bring you decent benefits only if timing is right but if not, expect that it will
only create losses and can bring aggressions that will push you to keep trying for more, that kind of emotion needs to be corrected
as it will cause you losing more money.

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December 30, 2023, 12:43:12 PM
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People would really be able to learn up on hardway on which they would really be just starting to realize things on the time that they would really be encountering those unfortunate conditions. Whereas, they could really be able to avoid it out on the first place if they are really just that mindful on the things that they are dealing with and not something that they would really be that sticking into those things that they do have initially believed. yes, its not bad to stick into those plans but we do know that there are plans which are needed to be that changed for you to move forward. Overtrading is really that a common behavior of most newbies on which we do really have in mind that the more we do trade the more chances that we could hit up a good trade on which it is really that very wrong.

Sooner or later you would be able to realize on to those things werent just that right for you to deal with. There's no way that you could really be able to stop those losses and mistakes to be done.
This is why adjustments would really be that crucial or something that be in default on which you would really be needing to do so.

Adjustments and lots of it is really needed to have a better chance in terms of trading, with how the way you trade will always need assessment and better analyzis in order to know if you are still doing the right thing or you are already being beaten by greed inside you and you are doing it the way like you are gambling with opportunities.

Over trading which exceeding from your limits might bring you decent benefits only if timing is right but if not, expect that it will
only create losses and can bring aggressions that will push you to keep trying for more, that kind of emotion needs to be corrected
as it will cause you losing more money.
You would really be that having that instinct that you would really be needing to adjust as this one would really be your main primary goal or thing that must done on which you would be needing to adjust whenever you do notice that you are really that doing something wrong on which on the time  that we had planned on touching up this space. We are really that aiming or targeting for us to be profitable. If we do able to encounter or experience hardship then it would be just that normal that you would really be doing the reverse thing on which you are really making those counter trades. It is really indeed a lots of trial and error when it comes to trading or this market on which there's no one would really be able to know on where it would really be heading. Over trade? This is a common word but there are fellas who are really that exerting much effort on dealing up with the market in prolong period of time.

It is really just that there are ones who could be able to bare up the risks and there are ones who do really just want to play safe. There would be no assurance
that results would be positive but we dont really know unless we do try. This is why even we are struggling or having those challenges. We arent really that
easily giving up on things.

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December 30, 2023, 12:48:07 PM
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Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.


People are now often with social media and we know how this is with the advertisements, posts, content of people to their different platforms they think that's how it is so easy to earn money in trading but after they get in that's the time they will realize that this is not just all about the money but also with the knowledge and understanding with the market situation.


They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

If you join in trading without proper preparation and knowledge its like you are just giving your money easily. Because of their denial stage they now keep blaming the platform or the trading itself just to give them self relief due to their mistakes.

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December 30, 2023, 01:52:08 PM
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They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

If you join in trading without proper preparation and knowledge its like you are just giving your money easily. Because of their denial stage they now keep blaming the platform or the trading itself just to give them self relief due to their mistakes.

Many beginners without trading knowledge do get into futures trading by following their friends or even following directions from video tutorials on certain platforms.
actually, it is not a problem for beginners to learn to trade. but if they're not ready, at least they'll look for someone who can give them advice. or at least teach yourself to get to know trading. instead of condemning trading as gambling because they always receive consecutive losses.

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December 30, 2023, 02:03:18 PM
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They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

If you join in trading without proper preparation and knowledge its like you are just giving your money easily. Because of their denial stage they now keep blaming the platform or the trading itself just to give them self relief due to their mistakes.

Many beginners without trading knowledge do get into futures trading by following their friends or even following directions from video tutorials on certain platforms.
actually, it is not a problem for beginners to learn to trade. but if they're not ready, at least they'll look for someone who can give them advice. or at least teach yourself to get to know trading. instead of condemning trading as gambling because they always receive consecutive losses.
For me I feel just an advice only doesn't cut it when it comes to issues like trading because trading is something that takes time to fully understand the whole concept of it. Some of the beginners that rush into trading without properly understand the concept of it ,were probably lure by the stories of others and also maybe the success they achieve from their first time try in most of the trading app courtesy of the demo account and funds already in it. I have seen so many persons complain that they were good in trading as they successfully traded good profits in their demo account but when they funded the real deal the whole shit turned sideways.

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December 30, 2023, 08:36:51 PM
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Old people or newbies can never profit through over trade because over trade will lead to losses for most traders depending on the market dynamics you have to invest there will be times when investing in the market will have a 99% chance of loss. To become a good trader, you need to master trading skills.

Investing in the market requires skill and strategy to be successful so if you feel you have not learned anything about trading then better stay away from the treat.

Investing without knowing this knowledge about your trade is more likely to result in loss.  You need to understand when to trade and when to sit patiently, it is better not to come to the trading platform without knowing these.

It doesn't matter, this applies most of the time in bear market. If you watch closely, trading in bear market attract less people and less trading gives low volume. This is when you see exchanges decline in numbers of visitors and coins don't move like that but look at now that we are out of bear market. The volume has done 2 times and are booming everyday, Solana is example of coins that has gain much attention and despite the price making correction, it's going up everyday and people continue to trade it with profits.

Over trading is a bad practice but if you are good in your game and understand what is happening around the coin you are trading, you wouldn't loss because you will be working with the technical analysis and the fundamental. Solana as an example, there is a buy back to attract people, market makers are doing their thing, there is a massive airdroo to be given to Solana holders, FTX is working things out so as they can sell and lastly manipulation. If you know these and understand trading trend, you can trade as much as you like while the hype last without making any loss.

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December 30, 2023, 10:20:43 PM
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You would really be that having that instinct that you would really be needing to adjust as this one would really be your main primary goal or thing that must done on which you would be needing to adjust whenever you do notice that you are really that doing something wrong on which on the time  that we had planned on touching up this space. We are really that aiming or targeting for us to be profitable. If we do able to encounter or experience hardship then it would be just that normal that you would really be doing the reverse thing on which you are really making those counter trades. It is really indeed a lots of trial and error when it comes to trading or this market on which there's no one would really be able to know on where it would really be heading. Over trade? This is a common word but there are fellas who are really that exerting much effort on dealing up with the market in prolong period of time.

It is really just that there are ones who could be able to bare up the risks and there are ones who do really just want to play safe. There would be no assurance
that results would be positive but we dont really know unless we do try. This is why even we are struggling or having those challenges. We arent really that
easily giving up on things.

On that point, there are people or traders who will keep trying and will find ways to succeed while for some, they are unable to adjust and fing their position in the difficult side after doing lots of trades, the point is if you can't handle the risk, you should have that set limitation and make sure not to exceed, be contened with what you earn or with your winning trades, make sure to keep allowing yourself to breath out and not to psuh for more, being so much greedy will lead you to lose more compared to have a better winning rates during your trade sessions.

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December 31, 2023, 04:56:37 AM
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Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
People who think trading is a get-rich-quick scheme are completely wrong. Yes you can earn money from trading but you must have a lot of experience in the trading platform. You will never feel restless while trading. Trading should follow market volatility, don't trade on impulse.  Also never be too greedy in trading platform because greed destroys people very fast. I follow all these things while trading due to which till now I have not faced any trading losses. However, after taking the trade, there is a temporary loss. I am not a long term trader I am trading for short term.

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December 31, 2023, 08:33:41 AM
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People would really be able to learn up on hardway on which they would really be just starting to realize things on the time that they would really be encountering those unfortunate conditions. Whereas, they could really be able to avoid it out on the first place if they are really just that mindful on the things that they are dealing with and not something that they would really be that sticking into those things that they do have initially believed. yes, its not bad to stick into those plans but we do know that there are plans which are needed to be that changed for you to move forward. Overtrading is really that a common behavior of most newbies on which we do really have in mind that the more we do trade the more chances that we could hit up a good trade on which it is really that very wrong.

Sooner or later you would be able to realize on to those things werent just that right for you to deal with. There's no way that you could really be able to stop those losses and mistakes to be done.
This is why adjustments would really be that crucial or something that be in default on which you would really be needing to do so.

Adjustments and lots of it is really needed to have a better chance in terms of trading, with how the way you trade will always need assessment and better analyzis in order to know if you are still doing the right thing or you are already being beaten by greed inside you and you are doing it the way like you are gambling with opportunities.

Over trading which exceeding from your limits might bring you decent benefits only if timing is right but if not, expect that it will
only create losses and can bring aggressions that will push you to keep trying for more, that kind of emotion needs to be corrected
as it will cause you losing more money.
Let your emotions rule you in trading and you get to lose it all, traders should never let it out, and the more you know how to tame yourself, the better for you. Trading is certainly risky but there are good approaches to it that will lighten all the dangers in it, and the number one rule is that you should never trade when you are not yourself. No matter how you believe you are experienced, you can only enjoy the experience when you are still yourself, but when emotion has set in, that means it is no more you that is trading but the mention in you. This is why it is good to take a break when one feels an iota of emotion. This starts when you are passing aggression, or overtrading, maybe because you are greedy or you want to recover back your losses.

For the latter, the result has always been losses, no trader will be trading with the wrong psychology that will be able to make success unless the trader is lucky. Even for the luck part, you can only be lucky to make profits or recover back your losses at times but that will not take you anywhere near a successful trading career itself. Let us always be practical and disciplined as we trade, we should shun greed and fear, and we should shun the urge for overtrading or risking excessively. They can't help but make sure that they set our accounts to zero balance ($0).

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December 31, 2023, 08:54:01 AM
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Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
There is nothing bad when we over trade especially if we know how to trade and make more profits during the period of over trading.
I think some persons do it in a wrong way thinking they can be as experts as the pro traders making huge profits from the market.
We don't have to copy other people pattern of trading not to end up losing big especially if we have not mastered the art of trading very well. There is exceptions to everything we do and we should not be carried away by mere results we see other people having in trading.









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December 31, 2023, 09:13:34 AM
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Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
Patience and discipline is one thing most newbies and even experienced traders lack, in their bid to wanting to cease every opportunity they see in the market, they don't wait for their set up again before they trade and this eventually ends in losses and a few times in profits. To stay profitable on trades, you have to learn patience and have the discipline for execution aswell and that's what I see from what you have stated

There are times you set up will literally take days or even weeks to show up but if it finally does, applying good risk management and proper execution, you become very much profitable enough to cover up for the wait which will turn out that it was worth the while.

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December 31, 2023, 12:15:33 PM
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Let your emotions rule you in trading and you get to lose it all, traders should never let it out, and the more you know how to tame yourself, the better for you. Trading is certainly risky but there are good approaches to it that will lighten all the dangers in it, and the number one rule is that you should never trade when you are not yourself. No matter how you believe you are experienced, you can only enjoy the experience when you are still yourself, but when emotion has set in, that means it is no more you that is trading but the mention in you. This is why it is good to take a break when one feels an iota of emotion. This starts when you are passing aggression, or overtrading, maybe because you are greedy or you want to recover back your losses.


I see your point, trading out of greediness can result to a failure, better to trade when you are well prepared and not just trying to add more with your winning streaks, there are many factors that will affect you, having that kind of confidence which most of the time reflects in making mistake, not saying that you won't succeed but if you are not well prepared and you are just aiming to earn more, it's a risky way of trading and can ends up losing your investment.

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For the latter, the result has always been losses, no trader will be trading with the wrong psychology that will be able to make success unless the trader is lucky. Even for the luck part, you can only be lucky to make profits or recover back your losses at times but that will not take you anywhere near a successful trading career itself. Let us always be practical and disciplined as we trade, we should shun greed and fear, and we should shun the urge for overtrading or risking excessively. They can't help but make sure that they set our accounts to zero balance ($0).

Yes, aside from luck the outcome mostly against your position, you need to have a good planning and strategy to make things be more successful and lessen the chance of losing your capital, having that right knowledge is always your edge when dealing inside trading.

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December 31, 2023, 04:46:53 PM
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Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
There is nothing bad when we over trade especially if we know how to trade and make more profits during the period of over trading.
I think some persons do it in a wrong way thinking they can be as experts as the pro traders making huge profits from the market.
We don't have to copy other people pattern of trading not to end up losing big especially if we have not mastered the art of trading very well. There is exceptions to everything we do and we should not be carried away by mere results we see other people having in trading.
NO, overtrade means not good as you're risking more than usual and it is not a healthy practice for a trader.
If you are thinking that over-trading will help you earn more, then that is wrong but this will lead you to instant losses and mental impact in the future. A trader must know how to control themselves and must know their limitations as well.

A successful doesn't just have a good market judgment but also has a good healthy practice. And over-trading is not a practice by them, it is just for those who are chasing their losses thinking that it could help to recover but not knowing this could also be the reason for incurring more losses.



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January 01, 2024, 01:14:38 PM
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NO, overtrade means not good as you're risking more than usual and it is not a healthy practice for a trader.
If you are thinking that over-trading will help you earn more, then that is wrong but this will lead you to instant losses and mental impact in the future. A trader must know how to control themselves and must know their limitations as well.
Many are taking risks now, because they know that for the future they think the risks they take now will be healthy because the impact will be profitable for those who dare to take or want to control traders without limits.


A successful doesn't just have a good market judgment but also has a good healthy practice. And over-trading is not a practice by them, it is just for those who are chasing their losses thinking that it could help to recover but not knowing this could also be the reason for incurring more losses.
We must admit that market conditions, if someone who is successful depends on the market conditions, if the market when he starts opening a business with a stable market condition or even more than stable, maybe someone will immediately rise or be successful.
If we look at the current market conditions, whether we open a small or large business, no matter how great we are seduced if the economic conditions of the people are still like this, really that a lot of capital can fall now.


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January 05, 2024, 04:09:11 PM
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Anyone who thinks of trading as a business will lose everything.  Trading is not a business field. Trading is not a place to make money.  You have to come to trading with them in mind.  If you are greedy, you will lose everything.  Don't think of crypto world as the world of money.  You have to understand the market conditions and trade.  When the market is unstable, you should refrain from trading, even for a long time.  If you trade repeatedly, you will lose everything.  Trading should be done with knowledge of own skills and intelligence.  Trading cannot be blamed for losing everything through one's own fault. And trading and gambling are never the same.  Trading is done with skill and gambling depends on luck.

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Anyone who thinks of trading as a business will lose everything.  Trading is not a business field. Trading is not a place to make money.  You have to come to trading with them in mind.  If you are greedy, you will lose everything.  Don't think of crypto world as the world of money.  You have to understand the market conditions and trade.  When the market is unstable, you should refrain from trading, even for a long time.  If you trade repeatedly, you will lose everything.  Trading should be done with knowledge of own skills and intelligence.  Trading cannot be blamed for losing everything through one's own fault. And trading and gambling are never the same.  Trading is done with skill and gambling depends on luck.
In crypto trading greed is one of the habit that traders needs to try their best to overcome,  greed will make you feel as if you haven't trade enough and will give you more urge to continue trading. Greed will make you never to be satisfied with the little profit you have and as you continue to play you will just end up losing everything.  In trading it is important people gets to understand the limit of how they should trade, and not to spend all their time thinking of making more profit.
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January 15, 2024, 04:47:02 PM
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Anyone who thinks of trading as a business will lose everything.  Trading is not a business field. Trading is not a place to make money.  You have to come to trading with them in mind.  If you are greedy, you will lose everything.  Don't think of crypto world as the world of money.  You have to understand the market conditions and trade.  When the market is unstable, you should refrain from trading, even for a long time.  If you trade repeatedly, you will lose everything.  Trading should be done with knowledge of own skills and intelligence.  Trading cannot be blamed for losing everything through one's own fault. And trading and gambling are never the same.  Trading is done with skill and gambling depends on luck.

should not be greedy in trading because it will waste whatever money we have, instead we should trade with patience and complacency,
for example if we take a coin. If it goes down, we should be patient for it, we should not sell this loss In the coming time, our money may go up to two or three times, but if we sell what we have, or if we buy and sell in loss every time then we will make a loss.

That means our profit will be less and loss will be more so first of all we should be patient and not to do trade too much like greedy trade again and again in this condition our money will be safe.

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January 15, 2024, 06:01:22 PM
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I see your point, trading out of greediness can result to a failure, better to trade when you are well prepared and not just trying to add more with your winning streaks, there are many factors that will affect you, having that kind of confidence which most of the time reflects in making mistake, not saying that you won't succeed but if you are not well prepared and you are just aiming to earn more, it's a risky way of trading and can ends up losing your investment.
usually such trading out of greediness is because to compensate previous lose or we are so sure that the coin we trying to buy are gonna grow within short amount of time honestly if we know that there's something that gonna come up that might increase the price significantly such as news about listing and so on then its okay to be greedy with trading that coin but i think its not fine if we are making decision when we are hot headed because previous lose.

I've experienced plenty such thing and always further lose is what I get.

therefore indeed trading with cold head is definitely gonna yield a lot more result than being aggravated into thinking that by going all in we might compensate our previous lose, try to reason then we might find profit at the end of the day.

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January 24, 2024, 04:23:37 PM
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In trading it is important people gets to understand the limit of how they should trade, and not to spend all their time thinking of making more profit.
You are only overtrading if you are using more than o your budget. Whether that is done with logic or not is a different question. Most of the times emotionally charged situations may commit a person to trade more than their budget illogically, this leads to more losses than wins. Hence they should take care to avoid such situations.

Keeping a trading limit can help here. But keeping the proper mindset should be emphasized on. Newbie traders are more susceptible to make this mistake than veteran ones.

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In trading it is important people gets to understand the limit of how they should trade, and not to spend all their time thinking of making more profit.
You are only overtrading if you are using more than o your budget. Whether that is done with logic or not is a different question. Most of the times emotionally charged situations may commit a person to trade more than their budget illogically, this leads to more losses than wins. Hence they should take care to avoid such situations.

Keeping a trading limit can help here. But keeping the proper mindset should be emphasized on. Newbie traders are more susceptible to make this mistake than veteran ones.

We do have to be able to allocate how much of our money to trade and we should not exceed that limit, if we exceed the limit that we have set at the beginning it means that we are already controlled by emotions so that we can no longer think logically, just like what you said.
More than that, trading also cannot escape our readiness in all matters, including in very sensitive matters, namely money. We must have financial management for trading so well that we forget when we should stop when losses come our way.

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