Is WinTomato casino SCAM?

[GreenProfit]

I got one referral on WinTomato ,referral comission dropped in pending referral comissionm about 60% so more then 60% of my referral comission dissapear and I go to unclaimed referral comission balance 60% smaller amount LOL.Also I got 2nd referral and I got 0 points at Referrals betting level group.In FAQ from WinTomato it doesnt write any rules about how much minimum bet should be from referral to get points to get bigger level for faster betting on dice.

WinTomato started to look like for me like some kinda of Ponzi Scheme.I wish that I am wrong 

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[Wiwo]

Well, you have to observe closely to make sure you are following the referral program rules and what Win Tomato's stances are concerning their referral commission,  many of the casino's referral commissions have a lot to do with what the team's final decision is on how much to pay as referral pay at some point.

So for that,  I believe what you get as a final referral commission depends on the decision of the casino team,  so they decide what amount you get at the end of each month,,  that is what most of the casinos do when it comes to referral payments.

[GreenProfit]

Well, you have to observe closely to make sure you are following the referral program rules and what Win Tomato's stances are concerning their referral commission,  many of the casino's referral commissions have a lot to do with what the team's final decision is on how much to pay as referral pay at some point.

So for that,  I believe what you get as a final referral commission depends on the decision of the casino team,  so they decide what amount you get at the end of each month,,  that is what most of the casinos do when it comes to referral payments.

On many casinos I know like example if I will get like example 0.1% from total wagered from referrals,or like example 50% amount which referrral losted.Also there is no on FAQ or T&C any explanation about their account level up referral points rules they didnt even writed anything about it and when  I ask about that on WinTomato telegram group moderator even dont want to answer to that,I asked maybe 10 times moderator ignored me many times,moderator just writed me read your account profile or read FAQ but there isnt answer to my question LOL.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Wintomato is actually a casino I personally do not trust, though I can't categorically refer to them as a scam, I do not trust them due to some previous cases where some user here had some scam allegations against them, though the issues were said to have been resolved, my spirit will not just see the casino as one I am willing to use or play on.

And coming back to referrals and commission, I would suggest you read their terms and conditions regarding that area and see what they said about that, there is no way they wont have some rules and guidelines written down in their terms and conditions concerning affiliate marketing and commissions, or better still, contact their customer care to help look into your care and see what exactly is wrong and why you are not getting your deserved commission.

This is what and all I can suggest for now.

[GreenProfit]

Wintomato is actually a casino I personally do not trust, though I can't categorically refer to them as a scam, I do not trust them due to some previous cases where some user here had some scam allegations against them, though the issues were said to have been resolved, my spirit will not just see the casino as one I am willing to use or play on.

And coming back to referrals and commission, I would suggest you read their terms and conditions regarding that area and see what they said about that, there is no way they wont have some rules and guidelines written down in their terms and conditions concerning affiliate marketing and commissions, or better still, contact their customer care to help look into your care and see what exactly is wrong and why you are not getting your deserved commission.

This is what and all I can suggest for now.

I readed couple times their TOS and FAQ and they dont explain there rules about Referrals betting level.

Depends on the total bets count of referrals. Maximum 125000 Points (10000000 bets).

My referral did thausands of bets and got 0 points for level up account,I just had conversation with Juan1500 and that is the most worst moderator ever on casino.On other crypto dice casinos where I was active moderators was nice to me and explained me rules here this moderator even dont want to give a answer even if answer isnt in FAQ or TOS.


They have own forum but who knows if I will find answer on their casino and how much waste time to maybe even not find a answer after so much wasted time.

[Gozie51]

Except you have had other people using their casino complain about same issue but otherwise you have to read and follow their referral conditions to be show that you are aligning to what the rules are. For instance if they are taking off your accrued referrals so as they won't have to reward you for that intentionally and not that you contravened any of the terms then you can sure suspect something phishing. Anyway to get more of what is happening to the referral program then you get to their customer service.

[BitcoinPanther]

If you look at the trust feedback of wintomato account, efialtis made a feed back that the casino is not honoring its affiliate deal



The red trust given by efialtis shows that the casino is not new to this kind of activities.  So it is not surprising if the casino don't adhere their agreement to their users about the affiliate system payment.  The neutral tag is also somehow alarming too.

I readed couple times their TOS and FAQ and they dont explain there rules about Referrals betting level.

Depends on the total bets count of referrals. Maximum 125000 Points (10000000 bets).

My referral did thausands of bets and got 0 points for level up account,I just had conversation with Juan1500 and that is the most worst moderator ever on casino.On other crypto dice casinos where I was active moderators was nice to me and explained me rules here this moderator even dont want to give a answer even if answer isnt in FAQ or TOS.

Is it possible that the affiliate rewards reflect on whether the referred users gain and losses?  Anyway, with the kind of service the casino has, I would be avoiding this casino to prevent myself for further headache.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Wintomato is actually a casino I personally do not trust, though I can't categorically refer to them as a scam, I do not trust them due to some previous cases where some user here had some scam allegations against them, though the issues were said to have been resolved, my spirit will not just see the casino as one I am willing to use or play on.

And coming back to referrals and commission, I would suggest you read their terms and conditions regarding that area and see what they said about that, there is no way they wont have some rules and guidelines written down in their terms and conditions concerning affiliate marketing and commissions, or better still, contact their customer care to help look into your care and see what exactly is wrong and why you are not getting your deserved commission.

This is what and all I can suggest for now.

I readed couple times their TOS and FAQ and they dont explain there rules about Referrals betting level.

Depends on the total bets count of referrals. Maximum 125000 Points (10000000 bets).

My referral did thausands of bets and got 0 points for level up account,I just had conversation with Juan1500 and that is the most worst moderator ever on casino.On other crypto dice casinos where I was active moderators was nice to me and explained me rules here this moderator even dont want to give a answer even if answer isnt in FAQ or TOS.

First, you really need to learn to use punctuations in your posts or comments so that readers can easily understand what you mean in their first read, I had to read your comment a couple of times to properly understand what you mean.

Anyways, what I do advice gamblers is, if one finds a gambling casinos and they are not satisfied with the way the casino is operated, then find another one and move away from the other, online casinos have become very many this days that switching from one to another is a piece of cake.

There are so many other great online gambling casino to choose from, if Wintomato is not giving you what you deserve, and the customer care are not helping you get the right answers to you question, then consider trying another casino.
This is all I know I can say for now.

[Johnyz]

They have own forum but who knows if I will find answer on their casino and how much waste time to maybe even not find a answer after so much wasted time.

If they refuse to give the bonus after complying with the rules, then it can be a scam casino.
Try to reach out to their support, or try to do some research about that site and you might see similar situation. This is why I always gamble on a reputable site, as those small casinos have their unrealistic promotions just to attract gamblers, and don’t have the plan to release the reward at all.

[Docnaster]

Wintomato is actually a casino I personally do not trust, though I can't categorically refer to them as a scam, I do not trust them due to some previous cases where some user here had some scam allegations against them, though the issues were said to have been resolved, my spirit will not just see the casino as one I am willing to use or play on.

Unless you have other notable issues with win casino. You cannot say because there was an allegation against a particular casino, so your spirit no longer accept them. This is demarketing. I do not think that there is any single casino in BTT without any kind of accusations at any point in time. All of them has been accused at one point or the other. But what differentiates a good casino and a scam or the one intending to scam is their ability to resolve the accusations. Meanwhile, some accusers accuse falsely.

And coming back to referrals and commission, I would suggest you read their terms and conditions regarding that area and see what they said about that, there is no way they wont have some rules and guidelines written down in their terms and conditions concerning affiliate marketing and commissions, or better still, contact their customer care to help look into your care and see what exactly is wrong and why you are not getting your deserved commission.

This is what and all I can suggest for now.

This is a good suggestions. Many gamblers and including myself see it as a waste of time to read terms of services of these casinos. And ever since the casinos understood it, they have been using it against us.

[btc_angela]

I got one referral on WinTomato ,referral comission dropped in pending referral comissionm about 60% so more then 60% of my referral comission dissapear and I go to unclaimed referral comission balance 60% smaller amount LOL.Also I got 2nd referral and I got 0 points at Referrals betting level group.In FAQ from WinTomato it doesnt write any rules about how much minimum bet should be from referral to get points to get bigger level for faster betting on dice.

WinTomato started to look like for me like some kinda of Ponzi Scheme.I wish that I am wrong 

Well if you read what what one respected member put in their profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262141.msg63125516#msg63125516, you might have the answer to your question already.

I was about to ask you to message them in their ANN thread but it looks like you did already.

So let's see if they will respond back to you, and if you are not satisfied then maybe it's time for you to open a thread here.

[Franctoshi]

Sometime in the past, WinTomato ran a four week signature campaign on this forum mid-2022 (June-July) if I'm not wrong, which I participated in their signature as a full member then, and they also carried a review campaign afterward which I took part, where we test-run the website to see how it functions, So from that experience I would say they had no issues regarding being a scam platform then, but I haven't been following their activities up afterward. I would suggest you lay a complaint to their support team to see if they will tell you the reasons for this.

[Odusko]

They have own forum but who knows if I will find answer on their casino and how much waste time to maybe even not find a answer after so much wasted time.

I believe they will see this thread and respond to this accordingly,  but the trust rating already mentioned something similar to what you are saying already, the member tagged them for not honouring they affiliate agreement so for that tou may be another affiliate marketer who may be suffering from they unfriendly affiliate rules, and i believe if all things remains as it is and there is no response from them it means it a deliberate act to scan you and others but until then ket await a response from the team as they are already mentioned here.

[samcrypto]

There might be issues with their promotions and it doesn’t meant the site is a scam.
Just try to do more research and ask the support about this, there might be bug or what and you can only confirm it by contacting them. I also experienced the same problem before with other site, and they fixed it the moment i raised my concern to them, this might work as well on this site.

[swogerino]

There might be issues with their promotions and it doesn’t meant the site is a scam.
Just try to do more research and ask the support about this, there might be bug or what and you can only confirm it by contacting them. I also experienced the same problem before with other site, and they fixed it the moment i raised my concern to them, this might work as well on this site.

Exactly.You don't rate a casino a scam when problems arise in their bonuses or promotions as they are added things,they should not be taken for granted although 100% of the casinos offer a bonus system nowadays to keep users hooked into them.

I would say that before joining a casino people should do their own research and be based on the feedback other people have left for that casino,if not a lot of people talk about them,their ANN page is not huge and all the feedback is not positive I would refrain myself for playing there,better play in casinos where you are 100% sure no problems will arise and if they do they will be solved fast in 100% of the cases.

[Slow death]

they have already had a complaint against them about this matter and I highly doubt that they will respond to you and resolve this problem, as they do not mention anything clearly about referral commissions, this has opened up space for them to behave in a very bad way without people accuse them of scams. My suggestion is that you stop using this casino and look for other casinos, also alert your referrals about the behavior of this casino, because today they do this to you and tomorrow they can do it to all customers. I wouldn't trust this casino, that's why I don't have an account at this casino and I made a good choice not to create an account at this casino

It's funny that they have a lot of scam accusations

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/wintomato.com

but in November they didn't have any accusations of scams and in December they only had one accusation of scams which is recent, something like 2 days ago, I don't know if this shows that they have improved or that they have lost customers and that's why no one cares about them. accusing, in any case I just hope that no one loses money in this casino

[lionheart78]

There might be issues with their promotions and it doesn’t meant the site is a scam.
Just try to do more research and ask the support about this, there might be bug or what and you can only confirm it by contacting them. I also experienced the same problem before with other site, and they fixed it the moment i raised my concern to them, this might work as well on this site.

Exactly.You don't rate a casino a scam when problems arise in their bonuses or promotions as they are added things,they should not be taken for granted although 100% of the casinos offer a bonus system nowadays to keep users hooked into them.

However affiliate marketing is not added on top of the casino platform promotion or bonuses for gambling engagement.  It is a marketing plan where people will get paid depending on their referred users activity.  They are asking people to work under them by referring players and are promised certain percentages.  If a casino is breaching the deal, then what do we call them?

I would say that before joining a casino people should do their own research and be based on the feedback other people have left for that casino,if not a lot of people talk about them,their ANN page is not huge and all the feedback is not positive I would refrain myself for playing there,better play in casinos where you are 100% sure no problems will arise and if they do they will be solved fast in 100% of the cases.

The issue is not about playing in a casino and getting scammed, the @OP issue is not getting the payment he thought he deserved since he referred users to the casino platform under the affiliation terms.  But as a player, I agree with you.  We must get some reliable information about the casino before we deposit anything and play on the platform.

[Docnaster]

Sometime in the past, WinTomato ran a four week signature campaign on this forum mid-2022 (June-July) if I'm not wrong, which I participated in their signature as a full member then, and they also carried a review campaign afterward which I took part, where we test-run the website to see how it functions, So from that experience I would say they had no issues regarding being a scam platform then, but I haven't been following their activities up afterward. I would suggest you lay a complaint to their support team to see if they will tell you the reasons for this.

You are very correct and retentive. Maybe it is just because you participated in the win tomatoes campaign. I was thinking that I have seen such a name and honestly it happened. Thanks that you attested to this. However it is, I give credence to any project that tried their best to run campaigns and also review campaign because they are willing to implant their reputation in the forum.

This does not mean that all casinos or projects that ran campaign promotion do not scam. We have seen some cases where some casinos after spending to run campaigns, lure and fraud people. So, in the case of OP,  they should contact win tomatoes team rather than speculate.

[bettercrypto]

I tried playing there on wintomato before and I went back to that platform a few times because at that time they had faucets that were given every 5 minutes and then you can use the ones you got for free from their faucets that you can grow in dice games they have.

I was entertained for about 2 weeks too, that's why I noticed that I was just wasting time, because my experience here is that I saved dogecoin there via faucet and I saved dogecoin that is 310 doge also via playing dice games that I just got it from faucet for 4 days of accumulation, after what I did I didn't try again. Now, with your issue here, maybe you didn't complete the tasks correctly to qualify for the referral program that they have dude.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

I got one referral on WinTomato ,referral comission dropped in pending referral comissionm about 60% so more then 60% of my referral comission dissapear and I go to unclaimed referral comission balance 60% smaller amount LOL.Also I got 2nd referral and I got 0 points at Referrals betting level group.In FAQ from WinTomato it doesnt write any rules about how much minimum bet should be from referral to get points to get bigger level for faster betting on dice.

WinTomato started to look like for me like some kinda of Ponzi Scheme.I wish that I am wrong 

If there was any problem other than referral commission, I might have believed it, but since the problem here is with referral commission, I can't declare this as a scam. Maybe you are missing some things that are not covered by their commission. If you were properly covered by the commission then surely you would have received the referral commission.  If it was a scam, many customers like you would come here and leave negative comments. So you should never base your decision on a platform being ethical.