Features of the worldview of a gambler

[maydna]

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most gamblers definitely have the ambition of winning big at some point in their gambling life. thus, they tend to continue this habit and look for this possibility. unfortunately, a lot can easily be burned because of this belief. i guess, that's the usual dilemma of gamblers, aiming for a big win but sadly, the opposite of this happens.

You are right, but the problem is that not many gamblers can achieve their ambitions, and this causes more gamblers to experience large losses. But even so, they don't stop gambling and instead gamble more and more often because they still want to try it. Besides that, they have made it a habit that they do almost every day so that if they don't do it that day, it's like they missed something. Well, it is a gambling addiction for them because they keep gambling and have the ambition to win even though they already know that it is difficult for them to win. But they don't want anyone to say they are addicted to gambling, and they will deny it and say everything is still fine.

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[Blitzboy]

First, isnt "pathological optimism" merely coping? Gamblers encounter harsh reality; optimism may protect them. Calling it "pathological" seems harsh. Why not consider it as misguided resilience? Risk management is conscious oversight, not ignorance. They recognise the risks but ignore them. Why? Game thrills outweigh practical worries like risk. The game is an escape and release.

Finally, their passion for the game transcends addiction. Its hard to distinguish love from addiction. They live the game, not just play it. More than a hobby, its an identity. We must grasp this thinking to promote responsible gambling.

[Webetcoins]

Well, what do we expect? They are addicts. But indeed that optimism seems not a right word to use there, since there is no point on why they continue doing it. They are like a cool guy when they say that being addicted is only just a minor thing for them. But for us, even a small loss is already a big deal. They look so confident when they say that, but deep inside there must also be a despair, regret and other negativities that they can feel.

We shouldn't blame or hate them but instead, we can do much better like trying to talk to them seriously about their problem. Once they get comfortable. That's the time they can confess and start trying to change their lives.

[Davidvictorson]

Pathological optimism the hope anticipation that the current failure is a stepping stone for the next major win or breakthrough in gambling his word has made several people to keep struggling with their gambling addiction. Every wing from another gambler strengthens their world view that they are next in line for wining tickets. The keep at it both day and night. They spend their money and not their money too. These folks need help and a professional one at that.

[summonerrk]

Pathological optimism the hope anticipation that the current failure is a stepping stone for the next major win or breakthrough in gambling his word has made several people to keep struggling with their gambling addiction. Every wing from another gambler strengthens their world view that they are next in line for wining tickets. The keep at it both day and night. They spend their money and not their money too. These folks need help and a professional one at that.

The phenomenon described by the author of the topic is absolutely true, and I was always very surprised when I listened to interviews with avid gamers. They were fond of casinos, slots, betting, and poker, and they all had a strange common feature: they believed that sooner or later they would win back. They are either stupid or don't understand math. Her law states that the more you play in a casino, the more money you give to the casino, statistics work against the player, and nothing can be done about it. And the best way to make a profit in a casino is to play once. So the mathematical sample of cases will be minimal.

[blockman]

While there are many distractions when you gamble and it is trying to convince you to do this and that or bet more, don't get confused with it because that's part of the psychological effect that's being done by the casinos for you to stay and become too optimistic.

Like a special effect. Psychological attacks are very impact, and tend to be very difficult to cure it takes time. I am sure that with a strong psychological we are also able to control the game and be able to get victory, in contrast to the weak psychology, we will be controlled so the loss will be greater we get.

If you're able to control that, that's better but if not then what you have to do is just for you to be aware of it. When you're aware of these effects and distractions, you'll be noticing them and that's going to give you the thought that you must avoid it at times when you are noticing it.

Well, what do we expect? They are addicts. But indeed that optimism seems not a right word to use there, since there is no point on why they continue doing it.

You have a point because optimism seems to be a positive word but on this one, it's being used as a negative effect for someone who gambles and whoever sees that effect on that person. But I guess it is what it is, whoever sees the negative from overoptimistic people have understanding of what's too much and not.

[Agbe]

Op you are the master of Pathology Optimism. Lolz all those ones are just grammar. I will say all the gamblers have that mindset of optimism because that gives them moral to play the next game even though they loss the previous game. And you can't be unfamiliar to them and manage them, it is not don't in that way, but you have to know them vivid then you manage the risk that you have seen. And before you play any new game in casino you have to make some research about the game so that you know what you're playing. If you don't love the game you can't have that optimism. Optimism comes with love and likeness. A gambler must be a responsible Gambler so that he can control something by himself plus the addicting nature of him.

[Julien_Olynpic]

First, isnt "pathological optimism" merely coping? Gamblers encounter harsh reality; optimism may protect them. Calling it "pathological" seems harsh. Why not consider it as misguided resilience? Risk management is conscious oversight, not ignorance. They recognise the risks but ignore them. Why? Game thrills outweigh practical worries like risk. The game is an escape and release.

Finally, their passion for the game transcends addiction. Its hard to distinguish love from addiction. They live the game, not just play it. More than a hobby, its an identity. We must grasp this thinking to promote responsible gambling.

I largely agree with you. Optimism truly protects players from harsh realities. But let's look at this from the other side. Optimism also prevents us from looking reality in the eye. Gamblers accumulate debts, play without any system or using a system that is very strange from a mathematical point of view. The most important thing is that many gamblers simply do not have risk management. They endlessly risk all their funds. They are optimistic, which is good for survival, but bad for thinking critically about their situation. Optimism is good if it is not excessive and if it helps not only to survive losses.

[ethereumhunter]

I largely agree with you. Optimism truly protects players from harsh realities. But let's look at this from the other side. Optimism also prevents us from looking reality in the eye. Gamblers accumulate debts, play without any system or using a system that is very strange from a mathematical point of view. The most important thing is that many gamblers simply do not have risk management. They endlessly risk all their funds. They are optimistic, which is good for survival, but bad for thinking critically about their situation. Optimism is good if it is not excessive and if it helps not only to survive losses.

Yes, that is true because with optimism, someone will not be able to see what has happened and often, they will not realize that they have experienced many defeats. Optimism seems to have closed their minds to realize that it is time for them to stop gambling because playing gambling has caused them to experience many losses. But because they still feel optimistic about being able to win the gambling game, this makes them continue gambling.

Having optimism is good, but we also have to treat it well so that it won't trap us. We can see that if optimism is excessive, we must be able to respond to it correctly. This is where a gambler must be wise about what happens to him.

[Julien_Olynpic]

Optimism is a dual thing. On the one hand, as has already been correctly noted, optimism can protect you from harsh reality. On the other hand, if it is pathological, it can cause you to continue to believe in illusions and go on a long losing streak, which is only briefly interrupted by winnings and does not affect the overall statistics. Such optimism sucks you deeper into debt.
  Are there any other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler?
  Maybe naivety? Lack of analytical thinking? Not working hard enough?

[Natsuu]

Optimism is a dual thing. On the one hand, as has already been correctly noted, optimism can protect you from harsh reality. On the other hand, if it is pathological, it can cause you to continue to believe in illusions and go on a long losing streak, which is only briefly interrupted by winnings and does not affect the overall statistics. Such optimism sucks you deeper into debt.
  Are there any other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler?
  Maybe naivety? Lack of analytical thinking? Not working hard enough?

A gambler's mindset is all about seeking the thrill in the moment, often overlooking the long-term impact. They might downplay consequences, get caught up in the excitement of the game, and tend to avoid serious risk management. It's a mix of chasing the adrenaline rush and neglecting the bigger picture.

[Weawant]

      I have repeatedly encountered the fact that the very concept of risk management is either unfamiliar to them or they do not attach enough serious importance to it.
I would highlight the following features:
1. Pathological optimism.
2. Lack of risk management.
3. The desire to understand some fundamental issues of the game (they talked about this themselves in interviews)
4. Love for the game process itself.
 What do you think are the features of the worldview of a gambler?

Been optimistic about a game you did placed a bet on should be something you should definitely do because I don't see why els you gambled on that game if you are not expecting a positive out come form that game, it would have been better you didn't even have to gamble on it than being the first to doubt your own picks.

The love for the game is usually the drive behind Gambino in some cases, a typical case has to do with lovers of football, they become very passionate about football hence they want to take the fun to another level by probably earning from it and also getting even more excited and that's when the get to gambling. A good number of gamblers in some cases usually lack risk management and that's not in doubts as they will want to risk so much hoping to recover at any win they probably get lucky at but then a few of them also get to Mange their risk well enough too.

[Accardo]

Optimism is a dual thing. On the one hand, as has already been correctly noted, optimism can protect you from harsh reality. On the other hand, if it is pathological, it can cause you to continue to believe in illusions and go on a long losing streak, which is only briefly interrupted by winnings and does not affect the overall statistics. Such optimism sucks you deeper into debt.
  Are there any other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler?
  Maybe naivety? Lack of analytical thinking? Not working hard enough?

Isn't it as a result of a psychological problem?  addicts hardly notice they're addicted, but when they do, sharing it with people is the last thing on their mind. I'd say that what could have caused pathological optimism in gambling addicts is the reaction of people around them, when they're made aware of the player's addiction. Some would blame the gambler, which could add insult into the injury. Other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler is that he'd want to solve his problem gambling himself. Most addicts believe since the problem is self inflicted they can resolve it without the help of anybody. The process of trying to heal on their own, then adds more years or months to the addiction which then gets more severe until it can't be hidden anymore. It's common amongst addicts to behave this way. Pathological optimism is a stage of gambling addiction where the gambler is now aware of his problem. In the initial stage the gambler wouldn't know he's addicted. A gambler that lacks critical thinking and money management can get addicted.

[Yatsan]

Optimism is a dual thing. On the one hand, as has already been correctly noted, optimism can protect you from harsh reality. On the other hand, if it is pathological, it can cause you to continue to believe in illusions and go on a long losing streak, which is only briefly interrupted by winnings and does not affect the overall statistics. Such optimism sucks you deeper into debt.
  Are there any other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler?
  Maybe naivety? Lack of analytical thinking? Not working hard enough?

A gambler's mindset is all about seeking the thrill in the moment, often overlooking the long-term impact. They might downplay consequences, get caught up in the excitement of the game, and tend to avoid serious risk management. It's a mix of chasing the adrenaline rush and neglecting the bigger picture.

Gambler's mindset can be seen on his betting behavior, decision making, strategies and not only with thrilling experience 'coz not all people are into it; proof is people who manages their bets properly. Indeed related to optimism however not to all players and to all the time. Some gamblers are more of pessimists which makes them scared of betting that much but are still having hopes of a positive outcome. Being optimistic means you are seeing better things behind a bad one and not to conquer thrill on gambling experience which I guess not all people are aware of.

Optimism is a dual thing. On the one hand, as has already been correctly noted, optimism can protect you from harsh reality. On the other hand, if it is pathological, it can cause you to continue to believe in illusions and go on a long losing streak, which is only briefly interrupted by winnings and does not affect the overall statistics. Such optimism sucks you deeper into debt.
  Are there any other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler?
  Maybe naivety? Lack of analytical thinking? Not working hard enough?

Isn't it as a result of a psychological problem?  addicts hardly notice they're addicted, but when they do, sharing it with people is the last thing on their mind. I'd say that what could have caused pathological optimism in gambling addicts is the reaction of people around them, when they're made aware of the player's addiction. Some would blame the gambler, which could add insult into the injury. Other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler is that he'd want to solve his problem gambling himself. Most addicts believe since the problem is self inflicted they can resolve it without the help of anybody. The process of trying to heal on their own, then adds more years or months to the addiction which then gets more severe until it can't be hidden anymore. It's common amongst addicts to behave this way. Pathological optimism is a stage of gambling addiction where the gambler is now aware of his problem. In the initial stage the gambler wouldn't know he's addicted. A gambler that lacks critical thinking and money management can get addicted.

If optimism becomes a psychological problem then that would be illusion if it is with gambling industry; an illusion that you will someday win the jackpot as if it is guaranteed and will be worthy waiting for so many years.Not needing the help of other people is just pure independence and not in a bit, related with taking to some people who we thinks he could be having is time of.

[borovichok]

Well, what do we expect? They are addicts. But indeed that optimism seems not a right word to use there, since there is no point on why they continue doing it. They are like a cool guy when they say that being addicted is only just a minor thing for them. But for us, even a small loss is already a big deal. They look so confident when they say that, but deep inside there must also be a despair, regret and other negativities that they can feel.

We shouldn't blame or hate them but instead, we can do much better like trying to talk to them seriously about their problem. Once they get comfortable. That's the time they can confess and start trying to change their lives.

Our lives can either go in a good path or wrong path, all depending on the decisions we take. Comfortable gamblers doesn't have anything to worry about, rather they're satisfied with the current circumstances they've found themselves and wouldn't allow anything to disturb them. There's this adage in the space "it's better to be clueless about something other than knowing something that will ruined your peace of mind" it's very simple. Gambler have no intentions other than grabbing good profits in the system, I've watch my colleagues grown to become an addict because he was too desperate and didn't hold back other than pressing forward for results.

[Julien_Olynpic]

This is an interesting proposition. But I would say, for example, the illusion of winning the jackpot is not always just an illusion. Now I’m unlikely to find links to the relevant article, but in principle anyone can google it. The fact is that unique cases have occurred in history. People who have won the jackpot several times. You know, they say that the probability that you will be struck by lightning is very small. Nevertheless, cases are described when one person was struck by lightning many times (and he remained alive). Or people who have been in accidents many times and still remain alive.
      The same thing happens with the jackpot. This is not always an illusion, in my opinion.

[Hirose UK]

Optimism often leads someone into misleading abyss, they will make several mistakes that may make things difficult for them in the long run.
But on the other hand, this attitude is also quite useful because every gambler with an optimistic attitude will never feel disappointment because they understand that there will always be something happy after losing.
But not all gamblers will have this mindset and I sure of that.

  Are there any other pathological features in the worldview of a gambler?

Of course there is because everyone has different point of view towards gambling, even every gambler who obviously likes gambling also has different point of view too.
It all depends on how you think about gambling activities and also depends on the gambler goals in gambling.
For example, you are gambler and I also gambler, you have goal of gambling as form of investment that can be profitable and I assume even if you have goal of gambling just for fun then it is clear how our mindset and perspective towards gambling will be different.

[Docnaster]

Well, what do we expect? They are addicts. But indeed that optimism seems not a right word to use there, since there is no point on why they continue doing it. They are like a cool guy when they say that being addicted is only just a minor thing for them. But for us, even a small loss is already a big deal. They look so confident when they say that, but deep inside there must also be a despair, regret and other negativities that they can feel.

We shouldn't blame or hate them but instead, we can do much better like trying to talk to them seriously about their problem. Once they get comfortable. That's the time they can confess and start trying to change their lives.

Getting addicted in gambling is one thing that we don't wish to anybody including our enemies because the consequences that comes with it isn't just gonna affect the concerned person but also people around hence the need to try stay accessible to them and ask help talk them out of it. But that being said, there are some gambling addicts whose level of addiction is too chronic for mere talks to help them out of it and that's why it's very important to know how to manage those kind of addicts especially when they're family members, friends or other close relatives.

So gambling addicts aren't as cool as they appear and would even draw someone into their addiction if the person isn't careful enough. In cases like this, I wouldn't advise anyone to go close to them as it might not end well.

[ethereumhunter]

This is an interesting proposition. But I would say, for example, the illusion of winning the jackpot is not always just an illusion. Now I’m unlikely to find links to the relevant article, but in principle anyone can google it. The fact is that unique cases have occurred in history. People who have won the jackpot several times. You know, they say that the probability that you will be struck by lightning is very small. Nevertheless, cases are described when one person was struck by lightning many times (and he remained alive). Or people who have been in accidents many times and still remain alive.
      The same thing happens with the jackpot. This is not always an illusion, in my opinion.

Winning the jackpot is not an illusion because it can really be won but the problem is that many gamblers have fallen deeper into gambling. They keep chasing the jackpot and we know that when their lust takes over them, they will use a lot of money to get the jackpot. But because they are not lucky, many of them lose their money in the competition to get the jackpot and maybe the lucky person doesn't use a lot of money to get the jackpot. When someone is lucky, he can win more than other people. We also can't blame those who continue to use more money to get the jackpot because their desire can increase the longer they lose.

[Julien_Olynpic]

Winning the jackpot is not an illusion because it can really be won but the problem is that many gamblers have fallen deeper into gambling. They keep chasing the jackpot and we know that when their lust takes over them, they will use a lot of money to get the jackpot. But because they are not lucky, many of them lose their money in the competition to get the jackpot and maybe the lucky person doesn't use a lot of money to get the jackpot. When someone is lucky, he can win more than other people. We also can't blame those who continue to use more money to get the jackpot because their desire can increase the longer they lose.

Yes, chasing a jackpot can lead a gambler to losses. He can lose money, time and mental health. However, subconsciously he can achieve exactly this, paradoxically. More precisely, of course, losing money and mental health is not his goal. But this is the price he is willing to pay to his fate for gaining experience.
     As for the jackpot, I was surprised to learn that there are rational strategies for finding it too. I read about a married couple of elderly mathematics teachers who successfully hunted for a large lottery jackpot in the USA. Their strategy was to buy up large lots of lotteries and track the winnings that had already been announced.