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As a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor whose eyes has been on the Bitcoin market and has accumulated as much Bitcoin while expecting the bull-run markets to come and skyrockets so you can sell you Coins at a profitable higher price, and then you wake up lately maybe at night or sometimes in the morning and learns that Bitcoins value rate (Price) hitted the market even times 3 of what you expected for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
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December 25, 2023, 01:21:59 AM |
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As a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor whose eyes has been on the Bitcoin market and has accumulated as much Bitcoin while expecting the bull-run markets to come and skyrockets so you can sell you Coins at a profitable higher price, and then you wake up lately maybe at night or sometimes in the morning and learns that Bitcoins value rate (Price) hitted the market even times 3 of what you expected for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
Obviously, you'd feel regret and even anger for letting yourself not sell while you saw it that time. The essence of holding is so you can sell at a very good price when all these factors like bull run and other come into play then imagine they do as you've explained and you didn't cash out, you'd feel the universe is against you. Well, for some, there will be the tendency to wait to see if such will happen again; maybe a second chance of sorts while for some it might totally discourage them to keep hodling because at that time, volatility will become glaringly clear and they might begin to regard holding as waste of time. Bitcoin is like gambling; the moment you see an avenue to cash out,do not hesitate because sometimes delay can be dangerous.
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December 25, 2023, 04:55:31 AM |
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If you use that system, OP, you haven't understood anything.
Bitcoin investing is not a matter of sentiment, and to buy Bitcoin purely for profit by trying to time the market is generally a mistake.
It is much better a gradual accumulation plan with DCA in which you raise partial sales when the price reaches milestones, as it can be at $70K, at $100K, at $150K...
And it is even better to include it in a wealth building plan, because if you sell all the Bitcoin you have when the price reaches a certain figure something tells me that you are playing with money that you need and then you are not doing things right.
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December 25, 2023, 05:14:14 AM |
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If that's the case, you'll definitely be a bit disappointed, especially when opening a position as a Bitcoin investor with short-term goals in general, but OP, it's good to remember the big opportunity ahead and that will calm us down psychologically, especially if you've already set a long-term goal, why should you be busy with investments that are of a nature? Meanwhile, it's just a temporary bubble and will return to normal again.
I think the Dump will not be as severe and low as it was some time ago even if the BTC crash does not reach below $16,500 again and remember price changes are a normal part of the volatile crypto market and if OP has more funds if that moment comes a temporary decline wait for the price to fall, then buy again. Of course, if the price is not as perfect as you would expect it to be exactly the same as when the price of BTC was at $16,500 ago and one more BTC Halving is just 107D.
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December 25, 2023, 07:40:49 AM |
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As a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor whose eyes has been on the Bitcoin market and has accumulated as much Bitcoin while expecting the bull-run markets to come and skyrockets so you can sell you Coins at a profitable higher price, and then you wake up lately maybe at night or sometimes in the morning and learns that Bitcoins value rate (Price) hitted the market even times 3 of what you expected for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
Hahaha...say no more. Those who would have any hurt feelings about this are still not good traders or investors. Anything that happens in the market, let it go. During my course of trading and investing, I have witnessed so much luck and disappointments in the market, so nothing pinched me again. In fact, I still consider the investment in cryptocurrency to be the easiest anyone can pursue as you cannot lose significantly like that, and those who lose if they could be patient, will gain back their money when Bitcoin rises again. But in those days, can you imagine opening a trade with $2,500 in your account, and suddenly, you see about $7,000 in that account, but due to overconfidence, or should I call it greed, you left it, and by the time you checked your account again, you met $-69? Yes, a negative balance. I have witnessed similar situations more than 100 times, so nothing affects me when it comes to trading and investment anymore. But it will surely hurt a lot of people since we feel as human beings. I can only encourage traders/investors that, if they are not in losses, they should always be happy and put their shit together instead of feeling too bad for losing back some profits. Losing part of your gains should mean nothing much, it is just a means for you to be more proactive next time. Just get to know the mistakes you made that caused such carelessness, and who knows, it might just be a mere volatile market condition. In this case, traders cannot blame themselves, they can't be perfect in their decisions, what if they didn't claim the profit and the market moved even further to $200k to gain more? The fact that it was in the negative this time doesn't mean that having the brave mind to wait patiently will still not pay off someday. There is no perfect approach to liquidation of positions. We just try our luck especially when the market is very volatile.
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December 25, 2023, 11:03:07 AM |
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There are people who places order in their exchange maybe let me just call those who are trading daily including me I does that as well, sometimes if I closes my trading for day or night as the case may be i will place my bitcoin in a market price x3 than the original price maybe if there is a sudden increase then it has to triggered, by then i have taken profits while the market goes back the previous stage. Then secondly I will place a buy order 50 percent below the current price maybe if bitcoin prices drops lower than the current price then it will all triggers as well, this depends on individual on what they wanted or how they wanted to play with their asset. But naturally it's good to apply a DCA techniques at this point you won't be left out, you keep accumulating some certain amount of bitcoin till you gets to your desired holdings amount.
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December 25, 2023, 12:02:56 PM |
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~ for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
None. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I don't know if I'm emotionless already when it comes to markets, but seeing Bitcoin going up that high in just a span of a few minutes will not make me feel regretful, disappointed, or whatever. After all, I don't know that it will happen. What's regretful is when you know already that it will come, but you didn't take any action to maximize that thing. But realistically speaking, this will never happen. I'm not a trader, so I don't know if this type of scenario is happening, but AFAIK, I don't know if this is happening in real time.
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December 25, 2023, 12:29:02 PM |
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you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
I am sure, no one could escape from such a scenario; probably those long term holders are simply delaying that disappointments in my opinion. In 2013, I have seen people were sharing like, "bought bitcoin for $300 and sold for $720, what else needed", Imagine their feeling when bitcoin was testing $65k levels in 2021. Basically no one could catch the exact ATH price at any given time frame. Then, what we could do to avoid similar disappointments? 1. Always plan for long term holding. Planning beyond your life time is somehow meaningless unless your plans include inheriting your assets to your descendants. 2. With bitcoin you may multiply your capital 10x or 100x or 1000x. So, plan up for big returns according to your age and needs and get satisfied with that. (In stocks market, 10x still being considered as biggest achievement). 3. One practical approach could be, always having some % of networth in bitcoin until bitcoin stabilize in terms of value. We need to educate our next generations about this, so that they also will follow and will not miss out the opportunities of bitcoin investments.
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December 25, 2023, 12:54:26 PM |
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First of all, don’t expect much returns if you are planning to invest in Bitcoins for short term. Bitcoins are for long term investment, if you have some money to invest and you won’t touch that for many years, then it’s perfect to invest in Bitcoins. Moreover Bitcoins doesn’t suddenly go up so high in few hours. Nevertheless if we think that this might happen, then definitely I will be overwhelmed by the profits, and will try to sell the coins which will cover my basic requirements of luxury.
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December 25, 2023, 01:09:24 PM |
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First of all, don’t expect much returns if you are planning to invest in Bitcoins for short term. Bitcoins are for long term investment, if you have some money to invest and you won’t touch that for many years, then it’s perfect to invest in Bitcoins. Moreover Bitcoins doesn’t suddenly go up so high in few hours. Nevertheless if we think that this might happen, then definitely I will be overwhelmed by the profits, and will try to sell the coins which will cover my basic requirements of luxury.
Bitcoin is long term for investing planning and not recommended with short term investment kinds, but some people not supported yet with their healthy financial and must take opportunity keep efficiency as short term trading in bitcoin and make them loss opportunity with huge amount profitable as trader or holder have long term investing in bitcoin. Bitcoin raise up need time and not instant drastically and short term bitcoin investor just earn few percent of bitcoin raise up and different with long term investing will earn huge profit from bitcoin with potential up more tens of percent. Prepare with your investment kinds in bitcoin, want to earn large profitable in the future have to be long term holding but if consistency profitable earn in daily day take your short term trading in bitcoin.
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December 25, 2023, 01:50:54 PM |
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For bitcoin accumulation or investments selling for short term show how incompetent sure user is because even 5 to 10 years can still be considered as short term investment and for one to go through the accumulation process and sold very faster show the poor knowledge and short-sightedness towards the advancement of bitcoin. There are people who are investing into bitcoin for just profit maximization and such person always ends with regret because if they bought and sold with just little market increase have they thought of what the market could be in 5 to 10 years time or even for a decade?
People don't always care about the market but rather considering their profit because those who hold since from the on origin of creation has seen the benefits of holding bitcoin for long without even thinking of the short projection rather than looking to long term goal.
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December 25, 2023, 01:59:07 PM |
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Honestly, @OP, it will cause disappointment because we can't sell at the next ATH price. Yes, that's disappointing. But we have tried our best and made a profit so we don't need to regret it too much. You are still lucky to profit from selling the bitcoin and can start investing in bitcoin again when the price experiences a deep correction after reaching a bull run. But bitcoin is not only for short- and medium-term investments but also for long-term investments. People can sell their bitcoins for the short or medium term but also for the long term. And it depends on their investment plan. Some people have been buying Bitcoin since 2013, and until now, they are still holding most of their Bitcoin because they are waiting for the price to rise above $100k.
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December 25, 2023, 03:14:16 PM |
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for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
Alright, this topic actually reminded me of one that was created by @Charles-Tim some months ago; you can read it here. The incident happened on August 8 on the Binance exchange. On that day, the opening price of Bitcoin was around $25k+ (in naira was around ₦25 million), but surprisingly, it spiked to ₦122, 886.640 (Which was about $122,889 too). @OP I believe this is the kind of assumption you are trying to make. OP, Your assumption can only happen depending on whether an exchange has a glitch or maybe something just got abnormal with the exchange you are trading your Bitcoin on, but such an assumption will likely be impossible for the general market. I mean, it won't be possible for such an incident to become a general thing that all exchanges will encounter at the same time. The Bitcoin market is not centimenal, so there is no way something like that could have just happened in such a manner. But like your question, if such a thing mistakenly happens, I will definitely do nothing; I can't rewind time, and I would only blame myself for taking a break at the moment that the incident took place.
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December 25, 2023, 03:19:04 PM |
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As a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor whose eyes has been on the Bitcoin market and has accumulated as much Bitcoin while expecting the bull-run markets to come and skyrockets so you can sell you Coins at a profitable higher price, and then you wake up lately maybe at night or sometimes in the morning and learns that Bitcoins value rate (Price) hitted the market even times 3 of what you expected for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
Although this is just hypothetical since Bitcoin will not hit that kind of price target overnight but as long as I secure profit on my target price, I will be happy already and ignore the potential profit when I sell on the ATH price that I missed. I’m really confused on your narrative whether the subject sold on his target price or never sold until the price dump hard? This kind of scenario always happened on crypto newbie, They always end up at loss even though they have the chance to take profit because they aim for more. Taking profit prematurely is still good compared to taking loss.
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December 25, 2023, 03:24:51 PM |
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Expecting short term gains of 50% on Bitcoin isn't something very realistic imho... If anyone bought in the last month they bought at a local high so it's also very much likely that a retrace would be expected. Anyone investing right now should be doing so with funds they won't need for a while imho. There's no guarantee that markets would keep doing that well. And with a potential retrace that could take a while too? It's a very risky bet to expect shirt term gains at the current levels in my opinion. If prices fall just a bit there's going to be resistance from anyone that just bought a short while ago, with the increased volumes and all..
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December 25, 2023, 04:54:36 PM |
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This will be a condition during which everyone will feel sad and will wish that they could reap the benefit at that time but I think in case of investment such regret will be forgettable when soon you see another pump. When such thing happens then a person for a while thinks about leaving crypto market but I think in a case of bitcoin one should not think emotionally because huge pump can occur anytime during Bull season therefore wait for another precious pump will be better.
It is crypto and in crypto market sometimes your selected coins touched the highest value overnight but we cannot take benefit all the time as at night we cannot keep constant eye on price movement and sometimes we become busy in other areas so we loss the better opportunities but it is not new thing and we should not be disappointed with such situations.
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December 25, 2023, 05:01:23 PM |
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As a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor whose eyes has been on the Bitcoin market and has accumulated as much Bitcoin while expecting the bull-run markets to come and skyrockets so you can sell you Coins at a profitable higher price, and then you wake up lately maybe at night or sometimes in the morning and learns that Bitcoins value rate (Price) hitted the market even times 3 of what you expected for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
Disappointed about the situation however holders can take it and are still able to keep calm. The reason why most people miss the opportunity to sell their coins during its peak is because of their greediness, the nature of most human beings. Most of the time we think that THERE is MORE, and then fail. Honestly, it happens to me during the first bull season (2017). I miss selling because of the circulated rumors that more pumps are coming, yet I just found out that it was already the ATH price when I saw the price decline. I'd realize how important to deal with our greediness and fight against it because this is a huge factor affecting our decision-making.
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December 25, 2023, 06:30:04 PM |
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As a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor whose eyes has been on the Bitcoin market and has accumulated as much Bitcoin while expecting the bull-run markets to come and skyrockets so you can sell you Coins at a profitable higher price, and then you wake up lately maybe at night or sometimes in the morning and learns that Bitcoins value rate (Price) hitted the market even times 3 of what you expected for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
I smell panic in your explanations and that is totally unnecessary. Instead of beating about the bush as regard to buying Bitcoin, why not just apply the DCA method so you wouldn't be worried if you wake up and price has tripled. There is no way to control the price so your focus should be on buying as much as you can leveraging on your faith in Bitcoin. For those of us who are small fries, planning to buy and sell at profit within a short time can lead to mistakes and eventually losses or regrets. We all know that Bitcoin is a very volatile asset but moving triple its value within a short time like you stated, is totally impossible. I don't want to imagine it because I don't see any feasibility in it. Bitcoin is not a low cap coin that few buys can double or triple the price. So there is no point nurturing this mirage.
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December 25, 2023, 09:27:35 PM |
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I think we have experienced such a price increase and decrease of bitcoin overnight but not in this exact figure you mentioned ''$65k-$165k''. The price increase and decrease that took us by surprise was the rumored approval of bitcoin ETF by the SEC, which had bitcoin to increase tremendously overnight from $27k to $36k + within 24 hours. And it started to decrease when it was rumored that bitcoin ETF wasn't approved by the SEC. The feeling then was that people felt disappointed about it and they began to use the same avenue of the rumored approval of bitcoin ETF to analyze how the market would look like on bitcoin price when it was learned that bitcoin ETF is finally approved by the SEC.
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December 25, 2023, 11:34:25 PM |
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That situation is happening at most times but not this time as the volatility of Bitcoin doesn't seem to go that way. But definitely, we'll get to see and experience that soon. It won't be a problem to me if I seen it moved that much and have to correct so quick because I've missed a lot of times like that but it won't break my patience while waiting for it to be back. If you're short term, you're mostly affected by it because you have missed it so another time should be allotted on it until you see it come again. But if you've been used to this movement of Bitcoin and price actions, will it still matter to you? I guess not.
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