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As a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor whose eyes has been on the Bitcoin market and has accumulated as much Bitcoin while expecting the bull-run markets to come and skyrockets so you can sell you Coins at a profitable higher price, and then you wake up lately maybe at night or sometimes in the morning and learns that Bitcoins value rate (Price) hitted the market even times 3 of what you expected for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
I will feel very bad and will have wished I was aware when the price moved up significantly so that I will benefit from the bull. No one will be happy and everyone is on the watch out for it to happen anytime. Although, I don’t expect to move up that much and still fall back immediately within a short time period. I have a big feeling that something positive will happen in the market and that will cause a huge turn in the market. Bitcoin is a volatile asset and with the way the market is moving and a lot of speculations surrounding it especially the Bitcoin Spot ETF, something unexpected could happen anytime. I can’t imagine a price but I know it can happen at anytime, we just have to keep a close eye on the market.
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December 31, 2023, 12:25:48 PM |
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Your question at the end of the topic plays on logic, so to answer a question like this have to use logic too. Regret, anger or whatever expression of disappointment due to missing this extraordinary moment does not change anything. You just see the history of Bitcoin reaching the market even 3 times what you expected when you wake up from sleep, but can't do anything because the price of Bitcoin has returned to normal. Missing a golden opportunity will leave you with deep disappointment, but that is not the end of investing. Bitcoin still has a chance to reach the price you have been hoping for, the bull run market will always be there, you just need patience to wait for it to arrive.
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December 31, 2023, 09:34:33 PM |
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As a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor whose eyes has been on the Bitcoin market and has accumulated as much Bitcoin while expecting the bull-run markets to come and skyrockets so you can sell you Coins at a profitable higher price, and then you wake up lately maybe at night or sometimes in the morning and learns that Bitcoins value rate (Price) hitted the market even times 3 of what you expected for example, you awaits the market to hit $65K and then it hits $165K just at your slightest mistake of given the markets charts monitoring maybe few minutes or an hour break and then it depreciated unimpressively against your will probably even below your hodling value at your notice, how would you feel at it?
The scenario that you are describing could have been way more common on the past as the market cap was lower, but now this is very unlikely as we will need trillions of dollars to appear overnight, and while whales have the money to do this, do you think they will be foolish enough to make a move like that? Knowing that they are just making their own lives more difficult by buying all that bitcoin in a single move instead of doing so in several installments? So in order for a trader to fail so catastrophically on their predictions about bitcoin they will need to sleep for months or to pay no attention to the markets at all during that same amount of time.
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January 01, 2024, 03:17:29 PM |
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Your question at the end of the topic plays on logic, so to answer a question like this have to use logic too. Regret, anger or whatever expression of disappointment due to missing this extraordinary moment does not change anything. You just see the history of Bitcoin reaching the market even 3 times what you expected when you wake up from sleep, but can't do anything because the price of Bitcoin has returned to normal. Missing a golden opportunity will leave you with deep disappointment, but that is not the end of investing. Bitcoin still has a chance to reach the price you have been hoping for, the bull run market will always be there, you just need patience to wait for it to arrive.
Right. Seeing Bitcoin's value skyrocket way beyond what I expected was a wild ride! People were pumped at first, thinking they hit the jackpot, but then reality hit when you realized you missed the chance to sell during a quick break. It's like a mix of excitement, regret, and frustration all at once. The shock of it all takes a minute to sink in and if the market takes a nosedive after that, you can't help but feel relieved you didn't sell at the tippy-top. It's a crazy learning experience, reminding me to stay on my toes and maybe set up some automatic sell orders next time.
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January 01, 2024, 03:24:44 PM |
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If you are a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor, then you are definitely someone who has paper hands and would sell every time Bitcoin is Green. What you explained in the scenario basically could be the consequence of you being a paper hand and losing that price increase would be painful in terms of the mental pain because of the "should haves" and "could have been" stuff. That should be expected in terms of what type of investor you are, since you are short-term only, you would be dealing with it fast and not accumulating it. It is going to be an up and down ride for sure.
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January 01, 2024, 04:51:55 PM |
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Right. Seeing Bitcoin's value skyrocket way beyond what I expected was a wild ride! People were pumped at first, thinking they hit the jackpot, but then reality hit when you realized you missed the chance to sell during a quick break. It's like a mix of excitement, regret, and frustration all at once. The shock of it all takes a minute to sink in and if the market takes a nosedive after that, you can't help but feel relieved you didn't sell at the tippy-top. It's a crazy learning experience, reminding me to stay on my toes and maybe set up some automatic sell orders next time.
Apart from being quite happy because they have had the opportunity to sell at a high price, everyone should also take advantage of buying again when the price drops. But what is seen at the moment is still not much different if what you mean is Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin is still below $43K with a fairly small correction wave so that it could potentially move back to $44K this January. And for those who haven't had the chance to sell, there's actually no need to be disappointed and frustrated because they still have the opportunity to sell at a high price another time.
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January 01, 2024, 07:00:26 PM |
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If you are a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor, then you are definitely someone who has paper hands and would sell every time Bitcoin is Green. What you explained in the scenario basically could be the consequence of you being a paper hand and losing that price increase would be painful in terms of the mental pain because of the "should haves" and "could have been" stuff. That should be expected in terms of what type of investor you are, since you are short-term only, you would be dealing with it fast and not accumulating it. It is going to be an up and down ride for sure. Scenarios like this do not always benefit investors - in fact it is very possible for investors to miss out on the opportunity to reap higher profits. Regret always comes too late - like an early investor who sold thousands of bitcoins at a very low price. People must learn from past mistakes and they must be able to convince themselves to hold bitcoin longer without problems. I believe there is always a desire to take profits when the market is in the green - but long term holders should not sell just because of a few percent rise. There will come a time to take profits commensurate with the considered risk - one of them at the next ATH in 2024 or 2025.
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January 01, 2024, 09:17:19 PM |
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If you are a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor, then you are definitely someone who has paper hands and would sell every time Bitcoin is Green. What you explained in the scenario basically could be the consequence of you being a paper hand and losing that price increase would be painful in terms of the mental pain because of the "should haves" and "could have been" stuff. That should be expected in terms of what type of investor you are, since you are short-term only, you would be dealing with it fast and not accumulating it. It is going to be an up and down ride for sure. Scenarios like this do not always benefit investors - in fact it is very possible for investors to miss out on the opportunity to reap higher profits. Regret always comes too late - like an early investor who sold thousands of bitcoins at a very low price. People must learn from past mistakes and they must be able to convince themselves to hold bitcoin longer without problems. I believe there is always a desire to take profits when the market is in the green - but long term holders should not sell just because of a few percent rise. There will come a time to take profits commensurate with the considered risk - one of them at the next ATH in 2024 or 2025. It actually depends on what kind of investor are you on which there's no way that you could really be able to know on what the future looks like on how it would be ended up. There are ones who do have that kind of principle about profit is profit thing on which it would really be that a normal approach that you would really be having those impressions that on the time that you would be seeing those gains then you would really be assuring and reap it out immediately. Some might be having those kind of regret in the end of the line if they do saw that if they held off a little bit more, they would really be able to make money but eventually those who do love short or daytrade would immediately be able to patch up those missed profits via doing active trades. Yes, it does sound simple but its not something that you could really be easily be able to deal with since not all would really be that successful when it comes to this manner. You would really be that basically be needing up that kind of skills for you to be able to have a good grasp within the market.
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January 01, 2024, 10:20:24 PM |
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Apart from being quite happy because they have had the opportunity to sell at a high price, everyone should also take advantage of buying again when the price drops. But what is seen at the moment is still not much different if what you mean is Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin is still below $43K with a fairly small correction wave so that it could potentially move back to $44K this January. And for those who haven't had the chance to sell, there's actually no need to be disappointed and frustrated because they still have the opportunity to sell at a high price another time.
In fact, there will always be an opportunity to sell at a high price beyond expectations, but it also depends on where you last bought Bitcoin. If you buy Bitcoin below $20k and still hold it until now, then it will be a profit that does not need to be calculated anymore. While selling at a high price is the main goal and absolutely must be achieved, then buying beyond expectations can also be a good goal. Because buying at the lowest price is a profit that will come later. The lower the buyback, the more profit will be obtained if Bitcoin reaches the new ATH price. It's about how to manage the profits and losses to be gained, don't be too greedy when the target has been achieved. And don't be too rash when the purchase target is achieved, everything will certainly have its own limits and the best decision depends on how everyone sees the opportunities that exist.
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Right. Seeing Bitcoin's value skyrocket way beyond what I expected was a wild ride! People were pumped at first, thinking they hit the jackpot, but then reality hit when you realized you missed the chance to sell during a quick break. It's like a mix of excitement, regret, and frustration all at once. The shock of it all takes a minute to sink in and if the market takes a nosedive after that, you can't help but feel relieved you didn't sell at the tippy-top. It's a crazy learning experience, reminding me to stay on my toes and maybe set up some automatic sell orders next time.
Apart from being quite happy because they have had the opportunity to sell at a high price, everyone should also take advantage of buying again when the price drops. But what is seen at the moment is still not much different if what you mean is Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin is still below $43K with a fairly small correction wave so that it could potentially move back to $44K this January. And for those who haven't had the chance to sell, there's actually no need to be disappointed and frustrated because they still have the opportunity to sell at a high price another time. Buying when it drops is something that most people miss. I mean they do end up selling when it's high, and they end up keep selling it because it goes down as well, instead of buying more of it, which people should do if you ask me. I understand that we need to consider this situation as the most important thing, and I believe that we need to consider what we do as the most important part. I think there is no way that we could make anything that changes on the long run, I hope that we could consider this as the part where people just buy right now, because it's lower. I get that it is not going to end up with anything that should not be considering the deal as any different, it's just the way it is and considered normal eventually.
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January 03, 2024, 01:52:04 PM |
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Right. Seeing Bitcoin's value skyrocket way beyond what I expected was a wild ride! People were pumped at first, thinking they hit the jackpot, but then reality hit when you realized you missed the chance to sell during a quick break. It's like a mix of excitement, regret, and frustration all at once. The shock of it all takes a minute to sink in and if the market takes a nosedive after that, you can't help but feel relieved you didn't sell at the tippy-top. It's a crazy learning experience, reminding me to stay on my toes and maybe set up some automatic sell orders next time.
Apart from being quite happy because they have had the opportunity to sell at a high price, everyone should also take advantage of buying again when the price drops. But what is seen at the moment is still not much different if what you mean is Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin is still below $43K with a fairly small correction wave so that it could potentially move back to $44K this January. And for those who haven't had the chance to sell, there's actually no need to be disappointed and frustrated because they still have the opportunity to sell at a high price another time. Buying when it drops is something that most people miss. I mean they do end up selling when it's high, and they end up keep selling it because it goes down as well, instead of buying more of it, which people should do if you ask me. I understand that we need to consider this situation as the most important thing, and I believe that we need to consider what we do as the most important part. I think there is no way that we could make anything that changes on the long run, I hope that we could consider this as the part where people just buy right now, because it's lower. I get that it is not going to end up with anything that should not be considering the deal as any different, it's just the way it is and considered normal eventually. Due to unpredictability of the market then it wont really be shocking that you would really be possibly be able to make those mistake or moves on which it isnt really something that would be ideal to do so. We are just humans and it is really just that normal that we would commit out those kind of errors due to unpredictability of this market. Prices could move into those levels or values on which we didnt really expect for it to reach upon. The key here is that you should expect the unexpected as always on where it would really be able to determine whether you could able adjust along the way or would really be just totally freaking out on the time that you would be experiencing such problem. When it comes to investment then you should set your emotions to be that something numb on which you would really be fixated for those plans that you had set out earlier. Stick into your goals or plans and make out adjustments if needed. Success cant be determined in a short period of time on which there would be tons of trials and errors that you would really be able to encounter along the way.
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One thing to remember is that you are not going to get what you wish or hope all that easily, and sometimes not even what you assume, because bitcoin is something volatile and at times you will be wrong, I am not even saying you might be, I am saying you WILL be wrong at times. This is why it is inevitable that you are going to get caught off guard sometimes and your expectations should not be precise, in fact your expectations from bitcoin should be expecting it to do the weird thing and shock you.
I hope that people could see that, and we could get to a point where we could see it change and be more stable but it will not be, so we need to be just calming down whenever there is something crazy that happens there in the end.
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Well, things when it comes to the Bitcoin market should not surprise you under any circumstances, because now you have to see how you can try to beat the movements that are made, if we are waiting for the price to reach a value of $100k and if it goes down at about $20k instead of going up it is something that should not surprise us, it is an opportunity because it can be bought cheaper, but that is something that we do not know, so at this point nothing in the market should surprise us, we have to be very well prepared.
If the price of Bitcoin goes down, we don't have to go in for the kill, but rather wait, if there is no money to buy more, then it's a hodl, and try to look for opportunities waiting for the good moves to happen, but the ETF needs to be approved, that other types of things be done, the halving is coming, the probability that bitcoin will rise is very great and things are there to happen, there is no other way, you have to know how to wait, and hope for the best.
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If you are a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor, then you are definitely someone who has paper hands and would sell every time Bitcoin is Green. What you explained in the scenario basically could be the consequence of you being a paper hand and losing that price increase would be painful in terms of the mental pain because of the "should haves" and "could have been" stuff. That should be expected in terms of what type of investor you are, since you are short-term only, you would be dealing with it fast and not accumulating it. It is going to be an up and down ride for sure.
It's a loss if you only invest short term, it won't give you anything when it's too quick to sell and it's not worth it. being paper handed will only lead to losses and constant panic. No need to worry about held assets, Bitcoin will provide quite good profits when held for a long period of time. Especially if you bought when the crash occurred several months ago. profits will be made by those who can hold it well and sell it at the highest price.
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Like the title you made the fantasy does not match expectations. Even so I don't care about it because the reality of life is often not in accordance with what we expect. But I will keep going to adjust my dreams to reality, there must be lessons from every journey and it will be a valuable experience.
Everyone will continue to make adjustments to what they will do or try in their life journey and if what you mean is to feel the price of Bitcoin and also their expectations in the market next year. I think almost everyone will continue to enjoy the journey quite well, because market conditions are still moving quite well so far even though small corrections in Bitcoin prices have sometimes occurred in the last two days. But that's not a sign for everyone to stop hoping for the best in Bitcoin early next year. Yes I think so, some of them including me will probably remain optimistic in seeing the journey as a good opportunity even though there is a slight correction, right you say it doesn't mean they should stop hoping. But for me, I will continue to adjust my dreams with reality, and I will make it a valuable experience in my life journey..
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January 04, 2024, 05:38:05 PM |
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If you are a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor, then you are definitely someone who has paper hands and would sell every time Bitcoin is Green. What you explained in the scenario basically could be the consequence of you being a paper hand and losing that price increase would be painful in terms of the mental pain because of the "should haves" and "could have been" stuff. That should be expected in terms of what type of investor you are, since you are short-term only, you would be dealing with it fast and not accumulating it. It is going to be an up and down ride for sure.
It's a loss if you only invest short term, it won't give you anything when it's too quick to sell and it's not worth it. being paper handed will only lead to losses and constant panic. No need to worry about held assets, Bitcoin will provide quite good profits when held for a long period of time. Especially if you bought when the crash occurred several months ago. profits will be made by those who can hold it well and sell it at the highest price. Many people are like that, and unfortunately there is really nothing that we can do to prevent people from being like that. I get that we are going to try our very best to do something about it, but we are not going to achieve anything at all, there will always be some people who are paper handed, they will see the price dropping and they will end up with a big loss, there is really nothing wrong with that. I hope that we could get to a point where it should be quite profitable to end up with a good return one way or another, and that doesn't mean that it is going to end up with a huge loss. I hope that we could just keep holding, more and more people should hold, that is by far the best way to make money. I know that it is not going to end up being that easy, there will be a lot of people who are going to end up selling anyway, but if we could just get rid of these sudden drops because people fear, that would all be enough, we do not need anything more than that.
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January 04, 2024, 06:11:11 PM |
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If you use that system, OP, you haven't understood anything.
Bitcoin investing is not a matter of sentiment, and to buy Bitcoin purely for profit by trying to time the market is generally a mistake.
It is much better a gradual accumulation plan with DCA in which you raise partial sales when the price reaches milestones, as it can be at $70K, at $100K, at $150K...
And it is even better to include it in a wealth building plan, because if you sell all the Bitcoin you have when the price reaches a certain figure something tells me that you are playing with money that you need and then you are not doing things right.
What is misconception. @Poker Player, for a better clarification, the contexts of the thread was specifically for the short term Bitcoin investors who are after making quick profits which their eyes and mindsets has been awoken on the bitcoins markets with an expectation that the Bitcoin values gets to a specific value so they could sell their coins unlike the long-term investors who doesn't find necessities to monitoring the markets value because they are not ready to sell out yet. Selling of Coins doesn't imply selling the whole of your bitcoins but maybe some fractions of it. So, the question is... How would you as a short-term Investor feel after much spending a long time monitoring the Bitcoin markets to hit your expected value so that you could sell out and proudly make a valuable profit but at your slightest excuse in monitory the market was when the market hitted even above your expectations but at your notice it fell depreciated even below your holdings. Hence I think such of the short term Investors would be sentimental against this volatily scenero because they would believe it is a lost opportunity.
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January 05, 2024, 06:21:53 PM |
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Many people are like that, and unfortunately there is really nothing that we can do to prevent people from being like that. I get that we are going to try our very best to do something about it, but we are not going to achieve anything at all, there will always be some people who are paper handed, they will see the price dropping and they will end up with a big loss, there is really nothing wrong with that.
I hope that we could get to a point where it should be quite profitable to end up with a good return one way or another, and that doesn't mean that it is going to end up with a huge loss. I hope that we could just keep holding, more and more people should hold, that is by far the best way to make money. I know that it is not going to end up being that easy, there will be a lot of people who are going to end up selling anyway, but if we could just get rid of these sudden drops because people fear, that would all be enough, we do not need anything more than that.
Big losses only occur if someone has already started selling their holdings for fiat, they are too scared to wait for what is cooking. continuing to hold it until the time limit or price limit that has been set is the best. so it takes trust to be able to achieve it.
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January 07, 2024, 05:51:24 PM |
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One thing to remember is that you are not going to get what you wish or hope all that easily, and sometimes not even what you assume, because bitcoin is something volatile and at times you will be wrong, I am not even saying you might be, I am saying you WILL be wrong at times. This is why it is inevitable that you are going to get caught off guard sometimes and your expectations should not be precise, in fact your expectations from bitcoin should be expecting it to do the weird thing and shock you.
I hope that people could see that, and we could get to a point where we could see it change and be more stable but it will not be, so we need to be just calming down whenever there is something crazy that happens there in the end.
I agree with what you say, it is very difficult to predict the price of Bitcoin and I have never met anyone who really correctly estimates the price of Bitcoin and we cannot expect too high the price of Bitcoin, if we cannot accept what is happening with market conditions However, if we can be patient with market conditions, of course we will be able to wait for the profits we will get from what we invest. That is all I try to leave off with people, that is all I want people to be aware of, and unfortunately not a lot of people are aware of it. The reality is that if we end up with waiting, we are going to end up with a profit and we should be trying our hardest to be able to do that. I know that there will be moments when it is low, and those times people will have a fear that they will not be able to make that money back, however if we do leave people with something decent, they should be able to actually make some profit, and that matters a lot. I know that it is going to be a tough deal, but it is not going to be easy to handle neither. I believe that we are going to end up with a situation where it is going to be just waiting, that's it. So if people ignore the market movements and keep waiting, they will be making a ton of money. I do not know how I could install that knowledge into people, they are all feeling super afraid when it goes down, they should not, it's okay, it will go back up.
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January 08, 2024, 03:39:49 PM |
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Big losses only occur if someone has already started selling their holdings for fiat, they are too scared to wait for what is cooking. continuing to hold it until the time limit or price limit that has been set is the best. so it takes trust to be able to achieve it.
Several factors can influence diamond hands to hold bitcoin until it reaches the new ATH target, the main factor being the influence of external information from media and social media, so it is very important that bitcoin holders must avoid negative information that will change decisions for long-term holders. But holders have other reasons for converting bitcoin to fiat, so we should not cast a negative light on bitcoin holders without knowing the details of their reasons for converting to fiat, at least if they make a profit from trading bitcoin.
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