Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble?

[Fiatless]

The casino employees aren't licensed psychic doctors, so they can't decide who is mentally sick and who is OK. I'm sure that if a guy starts acting weird, they will kick him out of the casino.

I assume that some physical signs can show that someone is not mentally stable. And I pointed to the fact that can such a person be barred from gambling based on some of these clear physical signs and not a psychiatric check.

Mentally deranged or unstable persons are well known for their violent behaviors of causing harm to others, they don't work for money neither have a sense to gamble for money but this man from the op does the opposite which makes me count him as not mentally unstable but as someone suffering from a depressive condition from life's challenges that had overwhelmed him making him to care less of himself

I don't think it is all mentally unstable people that are violent. I also feel that the ability to work and gamble is not a yardstick to conclude that somebody is sound. Many emotionally unbalanced people still work and are not violent.   

[coin-investor]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

That's discrimination the attendant already said that he never misbehaved or caused any trouble so he has the privilege to play unless that physical casino has a rule barring people with unusual behavior from staying on their premises but then again they have to check the background and examine the person because looks can be deceiving.
When it comes online, there's nothing in their terms that will tell gamblers to submit their mental or health condition, it's up to gamblers to examine themselves if they are fit to play online, when it comes to gambling it's always been played at your own risk.
Yes, gambling is a great source of entertainment but it can also become a source of mental anguish, so examine yourself if you can take all the risk in gambling.

[Pandu Geddon]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

This has become a habit that the gambler you are talking about probably did before he experienced problems with himself. Gambling addiction may be an unresolved problem for him that makes him always gamble when he has money. and that's what he remembers when in the past he was a heavy gambler.
There is nothing wrong as long as the offline casino provider does not feel disturbed by its existence, which some people may consider unfit to go to the casino. but if he continues to gamble with his money and not the proceeds of crime. it will not cause problems for him and the casino providers.

[MainIbem]

The question you have to asked yourself is are you sure if that person is not motor mechanic?
Well sincerely speaking there has been lots of confusion within my area for a motor mechanic dressing like a mad man or someone who is mentally unstable. Yes I have one mistaken a motor mechanic to a mad man in the local betting shop, how? just as you explained he puts on dirty clothes looks so unkept and with his oily face stained with grease and so other but he calmly walking inside and places his bet even as that he was holding something on his hand eating very wrongly after he places his bet, so what i did was to monitor him till he walked away, and guess what?
When i followed him outside he opens his car a drove away..
So in my opinion you might classify a motor mechanic as a mad man or a mentally disorganized individuals.

[Gozie51]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

This has become a habit that the gambler you are talking about probably did before he experienced problems with himself. Gambling addiction may be an unresolved problem for him that makes him always gamble when he has money. and that's what he remembers when in the past he was a heavy gambler.
There is nothing wrong as long as the offline casino provider does not feel disturbed by its existence, which some people may consider unfit to go to the casino. but if he continues to gamble with his money and not the proceeds of crime. it will not cause problems for him and the casino providers.

That has been my idea. If he is not disturbing and goes in then comes out in peace then everything is fine. He probably have been gambling there or somewhere that he kept doing it because he understands what he is doing by himself with experience. There are people like that in the neighbourhood who are drug addicts and also gamblers who have been knocked off in their brain sort off and they don't communicate coherently yet they bet because they are already used to it and they are also keeping their friends few times even though those friends now stay at length.

[Crypt0Gore]

The casino employees aren't licensed psychic doctors, so they can't decide who is mentally sick and who is OK. I'm sure that if a guy starts acting weird, they will kick him out of the casino.

I assume that some physical signs can show that someone is not mentally stable. And I pointed to the fact that can such a person be barred from gambling based on some of these clear physical signs and not a psychiatric check.

Mentally deranged or unstable persons are well known for their violent behaviors of causing harm to others, they don't work for money neither have a sense to gamble for money but this man from the op does the opposite which makes me count him as not mentally unstable but as someone suffering from a depressive condition from life's challenges that had overwhelmed him making him to care less of himself

I don't think it is all mentally unstable people that are violent. I also feel that the ability to work and gamble is not a yardstick to conclude that somebody is sound. Many emotionally unbalanced people still work and are not violent.   

Not all mentally unstable people are violent, some are so gentle and they have no sense of their environment, they are trapped in an illusion, and no matter what you say to them they will never get violent, but where I am confused is how such people will need money.

I doubt they will feel the need to take risks, there is one I know here, who knows the importance of money, but he prefers to ask people for money, the sense of hustling is no more in his mind, and even no one will want to hire such people.

I think the chances of mentality unstable people going into gambling is very limited, I have never seen such people in a online casinos, if they have families they are always with them for montiroing, such people can't be left alone most times as they can do something stupid.

[348Judah]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Am not sure there's any legal law that forbids them from having the same benefits of gambling, but the moment a physically or mentally challenged person decided on making gambling, then i think he's stable already mentally because there's no how a mentally pierced person can identify the needs to gamble and do so for the first time when he's unstable mentally, except for the physically challenged ones, we can also consider this not being exempted on the online casino gambling, a mental instable person cannot gamble online even though everyone has the liberty and access of using them, you can't gamble without having money as well.

[Oasisman]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Well, if that person does not behave violently or some sort of being our of control making scene, I don't think there would be a problem with that. Also, as long as the family allows him to do so, like if there are no complaints coming from the family then I guess there's nothing unethical or the casino has legal obligations for such person.
I've seen a few people who looks like they are mentally ill because of how they behave and how they look, but to be fair with them, they have not caused any trouble not even once. They just gamble win or lose then they walk away quietly. I think they really don't have troubles mentally, they just behave and think differently.

[Dump3er]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

So you literally stalked this unknown man, observed every of his steps and had a close eye on his activities, judged his coordinative ability and condition, listened to how loud or quiet he was and came to the concusion that everything is fine after inquiring of that reception lady what's going on? She really gave you that private information the same way you presented us with?

What I don't understand is at what point did you find out that person is mentally unstable? And do you play the stalking version of Sherlock Holmes more often in other sceneries? Do you consider stalking a gambler mentally stable?

I really had to read your post three times to figure out what is going on here. What would you suggest if we leave aside most of the nonsense and deal with the question whether mentally unstable people should be allowed to gamble? Everyone brings an attestation from a doctor? Who decides whether someone is mentally unstable? You, with your outstandingly investigative and in the academic world widely approved Sherlock Holmes approach?

Excuse me, but your post raises a lot of questions, lol!

[kotajikikox]

The shop can allow everyone who wanted to gamble and it is their rights to let them bet and a rights also of those mentally unstable people.

They have money, then know whom/which to bet , they are not hurting anyone so let them bet, if I am to answer this? i will not give any arguing in their rights .
let them gamble guys .

[CODE200]

Depends, how unstable are we talking about? If they're just raging so much but they're not damaging the casino property or themselves, I think they can still play but if they're not and they have the tendency to hurt others then it's probably the time that you're not allowing them to play, it's unlikely that you can do a wellness check in online gambling so they're probably flocking there and making the casinos a lot of money because they're not meant for restraining themselves on how much they want to spend on gambling.

[benalexis12]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

According to the attendant, if you refer to this as a regular customer, that means that what you say "mentally unstable" is no longer appropriate, as if he plays normally and still knows what he is doing, because he can still gamble well.

As long as it's normal to play gambling, there's no problem there; maybe you just said that it's because of his physical condition, appearance, and clothes. I don't think it's right.

[AmoreJaz]

The shop can allow everyone who wanted to gamble and it is their rights to let them bet and a rights also of those mentally unstable people.

They have money, then know whom/which to bet , they are not hurting anyone so let them bet, if I am to answer this? i will not give any arguing in their rights .
let them gamble guys .

and in the first place, how can you say that such person is mentally unstable? maybe, it is just the way he is. as long as he is not causing any trouble to anyone, i guess, there's no reason to stop him from enjoying his game. this particular case is very subjective, unless, you really know that person about his mental history and all. otherwise, leave him to what he wants. there's no law stating that mentally unstable or whatever a person is, can't enjoy his life via gambling.

[Cookdata]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

I didn't see any where it was written on your comments that you comfirm if he was mentally unstable, the attendants only assume base on his dressing and it's really bad of you guys to assumed that a person is a mad person or mentally by the way they look and dress. You can see a person looking unhygienic and unkept and that's could be a s a result of the job they do, as you as said he does a manual job during the days and it might be one of the reason why he is looking like that in appearance.

If a mentally deranged and unstable person is gambling, it's his choice because I don't think he was force, wasn't told to come and gamble by force, if he wanted to buy something to eat, I think any person can sell it to him don't have to be questioned, the same apply to gambling and gambling is a service that can be render to any person who need one.

However, for the humanity sake. If I know that the person is mentally unstable, I will avoid giving rendering service to him because I'm not sure any person who isn't in his right senses will gamble an win, they can be lucky to win but the chance of winning will be small compared to a person that is mentally okay, even a person that is stable hardly win talk more of a person that is having sparks on their head.

[Natalim]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

No, you can " never judge the book by its cover".. That's the Dhar Mann vibes. But seriously, as long as the person is behaving, he should be allowed to gamble, it's entertainment after all, right? so everyone deserves to be entertain as long as he can pay the play.

[Wapfika]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Gambling is for everyone. I believe if that person life is not being affected badly then I don’t find the need to ban them on gambling which probably gave them entertainment despite they have some mental problem.

In your example, the subject is a regular which means he is doing it for a long time without any problem. The situation might be worst if you stop them playing which they regularly do since they are mentally unstable.

More importantly on this topic. If mentally unstable still can enjoy the game then they should be allowed to play or else they will be discriminated.

[Jody.Drummer]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

I have not seen this in a any terms of service of a casino or other gambling site like bookies. If it is not there, that means it is allowed. But some people will not feel comfortable and will not allow him to gamble. There are situations that people around a mentally unstable person will interact with him and no problem, but there are situations that you can not interact with with such a person.

Right, I think it goes back to the casinos themselves about whether they allow people like that or especially those who look alarming and a little suspicious to get involved in gambling or not, if there is absolutely no regulation then obviously like you said it means it is allowed. But sometimes even if there is no such regulation sometimes some officers are very likely to prohibit it and drive it out, although sometimes we can't judge a person in terms of his appearance but sometimes it doesn't hurt to be suspicious.

Because on the other hand I'm sure the officers' mind is on the comfort of all the patrons there, which is why I think it's possible that some officers will kick him out even though there is basically no rule against it because it's very likely that there will be chaos committed by that person if he really has a mental disorder and obviously it will disturb most of the patrons who are there.

[Juse14]

It's simple, even someone with a good mentality can become ugly just because of gambling, let alone someone with a bad mentality.

I quite understand people like that, someone who has a mental disorder tends to be a little stubborn, they will be determined to enter the casino even though it has been forbidden.
And it would be better if casino officials prevented the person from coming, considering that the person has a mental disorder and financial limitations, because instead of the person wasting their money on gambling, it would be better if the person used the money for more useful things, such as for buy decent clothes and food.

[Yatsan]

Problem is knowing if you are really mentally stable. Not because you function on a normal basis would already classify you as mentally stable; being one means you are confident with controlling your own emotions, and other aspects of you. If OP refers to people who are diagnosed with mental health conditions and disorders, then that's actually a no. They might be able to divert their attention but they are more prone with addiction on the same instance. But on our ends even if we are often encountering emotional distress, we can still gamble; managing your betting habits will be another story.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

No, you can " never judge the book by its cover".. That's the Dhar Mann vibes. But seriously, as long as the person is behaving, he should be allowed to gamble, it's entertainment after all, right? so everyone deserves to be entertain as long as he can pay the play.

As kong as he thinks rationally, then it would be fine 'coz he will still be aware of what is right and what is wrong or when to stop and continue. With being prone to addiction, it depends on your mindset as a gambler. If you are taking too much risk on a daily basis, then you should avoid this industry.  Entertainment is far different from vices and that is the bottomline between these two.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Gambling is for everyone. I believe if that person life is not being affected badly then I don’t find the need to ban them on gambling which probably gave them entertainment despite they have some mental problem.

In your example, the subject is a regular which means he is doing it for a long time without any problem. The situation might be worst if you stop them playing which they regularly do since they are mentally unstable.

More importantly on this topic. If mentally unstable still can enjoy the game then they should be allowed to play or else they will be discriminated.

What about the consequences of losing? Gambling is not only for entertainment 'coz if that's so there are for sure other outlets for enjoyment such as console games which are alike with it and not involving real money which could even yield to debt if they'd be lacking sense of control on their losses.

[Agbamoni]

Judging from looks, the guy may seem to be shabby but on the side, he is very normal but doesn't know how to dress to look good. I have seen people like that most times in some local bet shops. Some of them just came from their place of work. Which may be some kind of dirty manual jobs. So instead of going home and changing up, which would take them some time. They rather enter the local bet shop bet their game and leave.

There is this saying "Don't judge a book by its cover".

However, in my opinion, mentally unstable persons should not be allowed to gamble. Since they are mentally drained they can never control their emotions when they win or lose. They may cause havoc in the local bet shop.