Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble?

[blockman]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Since you've mentioned the guy that didn't dress well, I don't think that this is all about the way he dress for assuming that he's mentally unstable or ill. But going straight to the question without the relation of the story you've mentioned, there's always the ground where the casino can stop someone from entering their premises. If that person does a lot of crazy things inside their premises, they all have the might to stop and ban him whether he is mentally unstable or not. But if it's just by the looks and judging like that, there can be some retaliate that person can do based on how he will be judged by just simply observing it without proper proofs.

[bluebit25]

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

Maybe this was a misunderstanding from the OP's observant eyes that led to this topic, but I can agree that about mentally unstable people (people with mental illness, crazy,...) they can harm themselves and those around them, and it is best to create their own entertainment space that may involve gambling.

But imo, people's appearance is not a measure, but most of us rely on it to judge someone's wealth/poorness or, as OP observes here, their state of being god, but I can speculate that the case here is that the man in the story did not have much money and perhaps gambling was the only way he knew of to generate income, but ironically it was like a trap, hopefully he's not a gambling addict either.

[Mahanton]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

If we do speak about being mentally unstable then it is really that something that you could really be able to spot on on the way that someone who do behaves on which it would really be just that normal that they would really be having those acts or behavior on which it would really be reflecting out on the condition that they are currently experiencing. They cant really just that able to hide it specially if its really that severe.
There are ones who are really that able to control their gestures but there are ones who dont really care about the surroundings or saying of other people as long they would really be able to play and would do on the things that they do really have in mind. Some are really that not losing their composure even if they are already on losing side.

There are really people who are really that still good when it comes into their control and discipline and this is how should someone really be that responsible on the things that they are really that doing.
They cant really just that make themselves able to afford on letting themselves laughable into other peoples eyes and this is why they are really that careful into their acts.

[Antotena]

The problem is it's difficult to decide if a person is mentally unstable or not and even if he/she has a medical record, it's difficult and not a good idea to tag and prevent them on something simple as opening a bank account or using internet, which are enough to start gambling.
The people that are financially responsible for such people can limit their use by budgeting and asking for bills but if the person is financially independent and has no legal obligation, we can't just restrict them for using their money anyway they want.

You know one funny thing about mentally challenged people, if you tell them they are unfit and mentally not okay, do you know they will insult you and will want to fight you for trying to label them what they are not. They will never accept such profiling. They are adult and the fact that they recognize gambling and the want to play, I don't think any person has tbe right to stop them, everyone came their for fun right.

If a person is not stable upstairs, it is the responsibility of the guardian to watch over him, it's their responsibility to watch over their ways of life because even in casinos and other gambling platforms, you will hardly see them differentiate between female and male, as long as you are 18+ and you have the money, you are welcome. I haven't see exclusion of mad people or financially disable people from not gambling. The gambling companies don't have time to be baby sitting any customer because they are after the money.

[rachael9385]

However, I see no offense on that if an unstable or mentally ill person gamble, moreover before someone will open a betting shop, that that means the person is not there to joke, business is business, as long as the gambler who is mentally ill is not owing the cashier then there is no need for them to stop the person not to gamble.
Despite the dressing, of the person is not there to cause trouble, they should allow the person to gamble but he will have a limit.
I have seen some alcoholic addict that still buys drink and get drunk, and the sellers are still selling alcoholic drinks for the person. And you know drinkers and addicted gamblers are almost the same set of people.

[milewilda]

However, I see no offense on that if an unstable or mentally ill person gamble, moreover before someone will open a betting shop, that that means the person is not there to joke, business is business, as long as the gambler who is mentally ill is not owing the cashier then there is no need for them to stop the person not to gamble.
Despite the dressing, of the person is not there to cause trouble, they should allow the person to gamble but he will have a limit.
I have seen some alcoholic addict that still buys drink and get drunk, and the sellers are still selling alcoholic drinks for the person. And you know drinkers and addicted gamblers are almost the same set of people.

People are really just that judgmental on which there are things which arent really that ethical on doing so just because they are not mentally stable then they dont have the right on playing? For sure casino owners would really be drawing out that border line on which if things turns out to have involvement about harassment or some scandalous kind of acts then it would be normal that they would really be kicking out a certain individual on such place and wont really be letting to enter the premises again on which it would really be just that a normal step that they would really be taking.It is really just that its too much if they would be banning out
directly without having some proper assessment on the situation. If there's nothing he had done then they are really that free to play and spend all they want.

We know that into this business, owners would really be much preferring into those people who are really that having those gambling problems because this is where they could really be able to make money
on which into those people who are really that impulsive already with gambling activity since they do know that spending would really be that too impulsive into this time.

[CryptSafe]

By the way how did a mentally unstable person find his or her way to the casino or betting house. It is not alright though but I think if a mentally unstable person goes to the casino, it would be very noticeable and that might cost the casino their clients so they would try their possible means to stop them because of anything happens and the government gets involved, they would be held responsible and liable to be fined for their actions.

In this case of your observations, I think the cashier or whomever that attended to him has long known him. Maybe his physical outlook seems to be what you think makes him mentally unstable that is why we are told to not judge a book by its cover.

[Nwada001]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

I don't think there is any rule that bans people who are mentally disabled from placing their bet, and just like you said, the person might not even be totally disabled; maybe it's just situations that make him appear the way that he is.
 
Someone who knows how to walk into the bet shop, make his own prediction, place the bet, make payment, and leave quietly without even causing any trouble does not look ill to me, and he also does some manual jobs around the area to raise money, which means he has bills to pay that do not look like the attitude of someone who is having mental issues.
 
The only place where I might think the law will be against is a situation where the person behaves abnormally all the time, not just by his appearance but also by his attitude towards people, doing all manner of violent things. People like that are not supposed to be allowed into a betting shop as they might end up destroying properties rather than just placing a bet and leaving.

[Fortify]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Who are you to judge a person like that? Maybe he was just having a bad day, or maybe he does not care to keep his hair to your standards? People go around in all sorts of fashion these days, what happens if he was a handyman that had just finished his hard day at work and wanted to place a couple bets? You should not be so quick to make assumptions about peoples lives, I've come across a few millionaires that act very frugally and don't spend money on things like high end fashion, but they are still very intelligent people. The story that he gives the staff may also just be cover, he could be very well off and perfectly normal. Nothing you've mentioned is what I would class as a mentally unstable person, it could just be someone who never got taught personal hygiene properly or doesn't care to wear cleaner clothes that you might like.

[Smartvirus]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

From the OP, it’s obvious that not dressing properly doesn’t define the mental state of a person. Saying the individual in question acted in ways that are becoming to society with the exception of his dressing says he’s stable at least.

He doesn’t still,
Don’t go about begging for aids,
Tries he’s hands on some gambling to earn or maybe distract himself and
Works a job to raise funds.

Just how would he be to not be insane. Perhaps it’s possible we could see an insane person that is properly dressed. Can we?
Anyway, he places his bets, pays for it and coexists with the rest of the world peacefully, that’s cool.

[Rruchi man]

Some betting operators and bet shop owners do not care who they take money from for bets, so long as their pockets are enriched. It is not proper.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

It is a very thin line between a homeless person and a mentally unstable person, sometimes you may mistake a man who is just homeless and leaves on the streets to be a mad or mentally unstable person, but it is not always true.

A homeless person has little hope, and betting or gambling and hoping to win may just be the last hope they have to at least get something from this life, If you think of it somehow, it can be sad to take away that last hope that they have got.

[Vaculin]

Sometimes, what you see is not what you get. You can never judge a person just by mere seeing his physical looks. You can't criticize him  being mentally unstable just because he wears dirty and stinky clothes. Except if he does crime or illicit activities near or inside the betting shop, then he should be banned and not allowed to bet.

Everyone is free to gamble and chose their desired bets regardless of his physical or mental condition. As long as he knows how to control it and is able to gamble without breaking the rules, then he should be welcome to gamble.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I was surprised when I read the post title. There's nothing wrong if someone who is mentally unstable wants to gamble.

did anybody say it's wrong for a mentally derailed person to gamble? .... Okay, if anyone said so, atleast not me... I don't think there's any problem with that.... But, how's he even gonna coordinate his thinking to choose his tickets and odds?? Basically, I feel the best predictions come from peeps who are updated with a team's current performance -- if so, then that brings another question... Do we have local viewing centers for mentally derailed people to watch livegames??... I don't believe in the fact that people are being told how to bet in their dreams - especially, the said set of people.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Promocodeudo]

I don't think bet companies will consider baring a mentally unstable person who is well-behaved not to gamble in their physically established shop, if not that the bet cashier knew who the man was, it would be very difficult for anyone to identify such a person's mentally status, for me as long as the person can come into the bet hall and stake his or her bet without obstructing the people from doing the needful, stop in such person will amount to violation of his or her human right, no law has been enacted by the government to function to that effect, in conclusion they should be allowed if they can comport themselves.

[Marykeller]

If every gambling shop starts to crosscheck gamblers by the way they dress before they can gamble, would you think they will be having inflow and outflow of gamblers every given day without them losing thousands of customers coming to gamble in their gambling shops due to the way they dress?

For every gambling shop you see, expect to see unkempt dressers, the reasonable and unreasonable individuals in the gambling house, and every one of them acts according to why they are there, to gamble and leave without causing a nuisance. However, no gambling shop prohibits someone who is shabbily dressed from coming in. Everyone is allowed to come in the way they are as long as they are well-behaved.

[South Park]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

I suppose it could be done but it will be way more difficult and expensive than what it may seem at first glance, since this will require for a psychiatrist to diagnose a person and then that person should be added to a database that all casinos around the country use to forbid those people to gamble, but even if that system was put in place it will be incredibly easy to get around it, as the only thing you will have to do is to avoid being diagnosed so you can gamble as much as you want anyway.

[Iroh]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Mentally unstable people in my opinion, shouldn’t be allowed to gamble as they’re literally not stable mentally. But In the case you stated, how can we really tell that person is mentally unstable?
Understandably, we can form an opinion based on information we’ve got and based on the looks, one could easily conclude about his mental state.

“Do not judge a book by its cover”. I’ve found this to be extremely accurate as things are not always as they appear to be.
Everyone seems to be fine with the “mentally unstable” man playing and he behaves himself better than a lot of supposedly mentally sane people. The establishment also doesn’t mind taking his money and letting him gamble.

[Stable090]

However, I see no offense on that if an unstable or mentally ill person gamble, moreover before someone will open a betting shop, that that means the person is not there to joke, business is business, as long as the gambler who is mentally ill is not owing the cashier then there is no need for them to stop the person not to gamble.

I disagree with you. Someone who is not mentally stable is not supposed to be allowed to gamble. I know there is no law that stops them from gambling or that says they should be rejected when they come to gamble, but to me, it doesn’t make sense. You don’t even know how they are getting the money they are gambling with. If someone is mentally unstable, they can do anything just to get money; they might end up hurting people just to get money. You don’t expect an unstable person to be given a job, so the question is, where are they getting the money they are using to gamble?
 
If you are running a business, there are some things you shouldn’t just do because of money, so you can allow an underage person to gamble at your place just because you don’t care, all you want is money. If you know that someone is unstable, then don’t allow them to gamble.

[odunybiz]

However, I see no offense on that if an unstable or mentally ill person gamble, moreover before someone will open a betting shop, that that means the person is not there to joke, business is business, as long as the gambler who is mentally ill is not owing the cashier then there is no need for them to stop the person not to gamble.

I disagree with you. Someone who is not mentally stable is not supposed to be allowed to gamble. I know there is no law that stops them from gambling or that says they should be rejected when they come to gamble, but to me, it doesn’t make sense. You don’t even know how they are getting the money they are gambling with. If someone is mentally unstable, they can do anything just to get money; they might end up hurting people just to get money. You don’t expect an unstable person to be given a job, so the question is, where are they getting the money they are using to gamble?
 
If you are running a business, there are some things you shouldn’t just do because of money, so you can allow an underage person to gamble at your place just because you don’t care, all you want is money. If you know that someone is unstable, then don’t allow them to gamble.

There is a quite difference between some who is mentally unstable and an underage. Even the gambling rules go against underage but does nothing about mentally unstable person. Something, being rough and dirty may not really mean is fully mentally unstable. He may look like that out of drug abuse. For him to have known how to make predictions and where to place a bet, means he still have some percentage of being mentally stable. I don't see anything bad in it placing bet for him since no rule against that in the country or the betting site.

[Onyeeze]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Since you've mentioned the guy that didn't dress well, I don't think that this is all about the way he dress for assuming that he's mentally unstable or ill. But going straight to the question without the relation of the story you've mentioned, there's always the ground where the casino can stop someone from entering their premises. If that person does a lot of crazy things inside their premises, they all have the might to stop and ban him whether he is mentally unstable or not. But if it's just by the looks and judging like that, there can be some retaliate that person can do based on how he will be judged by just simply observing it without proper proofs.

If its a physical center of casino gambling can restrict anyone they feel like to stop from gambling, their is something I notice very well in gambling if you mentally derailed their is every possiblity that they will restrict the gambler not gamble with them when they notice, and they can only do so when you come to the gambling centre to obstruct their business, I know very well that if they dont have a genuine reason to ban someone not to enter their premises it will cause a shortage of patronage, that is why some centers of gambling betting environment always compromise with their customers