Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble?

[bocyaj]

If its a physical center of casino gambling can restrict anyone they feel like to stop from gambling, their is something I notice very well in gambling if you mentally derailed their is every possiblity that they will restrict the gambler not gamble with them when they notice, and they can only do so when you come to the gambling centre to obstruct their business, I know very well that if they dont have a genuine reason to ban someone not to enter their premises it will cause a shortage of patronage, that is why some centers of gambling betting environment always compromise with their customers

The gambling owner never allow the person with unsound mind,because most probably they will fight with the gambling site.They never realized the importance of the gambling site,they will fight without any proof with the gambling site.So the gambling site will delete Or ban their account because of the unprofessional behavior because of less sound of mind.The reason itself help us to earn more money by the technical skills in the gambling site.The physical activity and apperance was not the important factor here.Because the most brilliant person in the many sector will look like the simple person till they prove their own business skills in the gambling site.

[Accardo]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Since you've mentioned the guy that didn't dress well, I don't think that this is all about the way he dress for assuming that he's mentally unstable or ill. But going straight to the question without the relation of the story you've mentioned, there's always the ground where the casino can stop someone from entering their premises. If that person does a lot of crazy things inside their premises, they all have the might to stop and ban him whether he is mentally unstable or not. But if it's just by the looks and judging like that, there can be some retaliate that person can do based on how he will be judged by just simply observing it without proper proofs.

If its a physical center of casino gambling can restrict anyone they feel like to stop from gambling, their is something I notice very well in gambling if you mentally derailed their is every possiblity that they will restrict the gambler not gamble with them when they notice, and they can only do so when you come to the gambling centre to obstruct their business, I know very well that if they dont have a genuine reason to ban someone not to enter their premises it will cause a shortage of patronage, that is why some centers of gambling betting environment always compromise with their customers

A gambler that causes trouble in the casino, should be tagged mentally ill and shouldn't be allowed to enter the casino. But if another gambler is safe and doesn't fight or destroy any facilities in the casino, he should be allowed to spend his money. Everyone has their space, and nobody disturbs one another, it's a safe place for every gambler who is qualified by age to participate and enjoy his habit. Hence we shouldn't have a bad time with such people as regards gambling. Whenever a person is allowed by the authorities to enter a place, he has been checked long ago and found worthy of visiting. If not he would have been bounced long ago by the security men. Whether a casino or the government should ban mentally ill people from participating in gambling, is a question that has no direct answer. Since most people who are gambling addicts are indirectly mentally ill. And the government or the casino has done nothing to keep them away from gambling or ban them entirely from the habit.

Government for mentally ill people aims to heal them and recover their senses, to maintain a good and quality society. Mental disorder has different stages, and not until one slaps or smashes his TV sets on the floor that he'll be considered mentally ill. The human brain is suffering each day from challenges that compel it to suffer mental illness. But only the strong can withstand and still hold themselves back from the temptation of getting aggressive on certain matters. But when it gets obvious, the person can be taken to the hospital to receive some injections to help them sleep. And cool their brain. Gambling also leads to mental illness, so, should Op also wonder about banning gambling in countries where youths are going crazily in debt due to problem gambling? With all these odds surrounding gambling, a person or gambler must have done something remarkably wrong to be banned from using gambling. Which may have nothing to do with his dressing.

[klidex]

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Yes, that means the casino can accept someone in shabby clothes to come and gamble in the casino. Based on what has been said, the guy didn't make a scene in his casino, so the officers didn't mind if he gambled. Moreover, after gambling, he will leave the casino straight away without making a fuss about other people who are also in the casino and gambling. Unless the person often disturbs other players and makes a fuss, perhaps the officers will no longer allow him to gamble at the casino. Not all people who dress shabbily indeed have mental disorders because there could be people who dress shabbily. But he turns out to be a millionaire who gambles and doesn't want anyone to recognize him in gambling so he decides to dress shabbily. The important thing is that everything will be fine if the person doesn't disturb other players.

The officers at the casino must have recognized the people who were their regular customers because that was their job. And I think there are even people who dress neatly but often disturb people who are gambling and the officers have to be firm with them and will not allow them to return to gambling at the casino. Anyone can come to the casino as long as they are old enough to gamble and not disturb other people. The officers who work at the casino look after this because they also want to avoid any problems while they work there.

Yes, that's true as long as the person doesn't make trouble and disturb the other players, then just leave it alone, he's just gambling and after the money runs out he immediately goes home without making a fuss if he loses. After all, the person is a regular customer which means he's used to coming shabby clothes because the most important thing is that the bets are paid according to the betting rate. As long as he doesn't harm other people and doesn't harm the casino then it's fine, and we also don't know if the life of this shabby person is really a poor person or a millionaire who disguises himself so that no one recognizes him playing gambling. Whatever thing always happen in the world gambling as long as he is still gambling in his shabby clothes means he is still said to be someone who can afford to lose money.

Well, thats the problem, usually even people who dress neatly can get into trouble if they experience defeat and are emotional, so we don't need to discriminate against someone just by the way they dress. Even if it's shabby, at least the person is safe and doesn't bother other people or harm other people.

[bettercrypto]

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

Maybe this was a misunderstanding from the OP's observant eyes that led to this topic, but I can agree that about mentally unstable people (people with mental illness, crazy,...) they can harm themselves and those around them, and it is best to create their own entertainment space that may involve gambling.

But imo, people's appearance is not a measure, but most of us rely on it to judge someone's wealth/poorness or, as OP observes here, their state of being god, but I can speculate that the case here is that the man in the story did not have much money and perhaps gambling was the only way he knew of to generate income, but ironically it was like a trap, hopefully he's not a gambling addict either.

Maybe you are right on the point that there seems to be a little misunderstanding in the story that the OP told. And from what I also saw, it seems that he is not talking about an addict; the only thing that seems to worry the OP is the physical condition and clothing of the gambler, which he refers to.

But still, from what I can think of, it seems that the gambler's clothing is not really like that of a beggar. Because the casino staff just let it go, which means it's still normal to look at the gamblers' clothing because if it doesn't distract their customers, maybe this op may have just exaggerated his story.

[borovichok]

The gambling owner never allow the person with unsound mind,because most probably they will fight with the gambling site.They never realized the importance of the gambling site,they will fight without any proof with the gambling site.So the gambling site will delete Or ban their account because of the unprofessional behavior because of less sound of mind.The reason itself help us to earn more money by the technical skills in the gambling site.The physical activity and apperance was not the important factor here.Because the most brilliant person in the many sector will look like the simple person till they prove their own business skills in the gambling site.

The space doesn't belong to anyone, as far as you're in the system and have no secure any solid standings, it means you're just a newbie grooving about looking for evidence. Brilliant gamblers have merge their primary target and also have backup options in cases where their main plans fails, the alternative will carry be triggered from there onwards. We know how risky it is for gamblers trying to suit into the system and I've no clarity of the incidence to expects next other than staying on one side and providing for ourselves. Mentally unstable individuals shouldn't been allow any where close to the bettingshop because they have these recalcitrant attitudes towards these gambling activities and I've seen quite alot of people that have become victims.

[retreat]

Mentally unstable people should not gamble because how can they gamble well when their mental state is not in good condition. But the problem is that casino or betting shop owners don't see this, they don't care about the condition of their players, because money is money, they don't care where and from whom the money comes. What they think about is money and money, and as long as the player doesn't make trouble there, he is free to play as he likes until the money runs out and that is the fact that I see.

[ethereumhunter]

Its shallow to determine a gambler's worth or intentions by their clothes. Although behaviour matters more than clothes, the casino's non-discriminatory attire code is admirable. Here, society's distorted reliance on appearances is evident.

Officers are essential to a healthy gambling environment. They must be vigilant for unruly customers regardless of outfit. Conduct matters, not clothes. As someone familiar with gaming dynamics, I think this approach is vital to a courteous, fun gambling environment.

Finally, the idea that shabby-dressed people could be wealthy defies prejudices. Remember that appearances can be deceiving, so never underestimate anybody solely on their appearance. This perspective enhances our awareness of human variation and life's unpredictability.

There is a saying don't judge a book by its cover. So that's what we or the officers at the casino have to do. But in reality, this is only partially the case because there are still people who only see it from its appearance. When there are people who dress shabbily, they are not well received in a place. But well-dressed people are well received. In many places, many people don't look at someone just by their appearance but overall.

And yes, the officer's job is to ensure that the workplace is safe from anything. They can ask someone to leave the casino premises if officers see them as potentially creating a disturbance there. And if someone has no intention of causing a disturbance, the officers will not do anything and will watch.

Yes, that's true as long as the person doesn't make trouble and disturb the other players, then just leave it alone, he's just gambling and after the money runs out he immediately goes home without making a fuss if he loses. After all, the person is a regular customer which means he's used to coming shabby clothes because the most important thing is that the bets are paid according to the betting rate. As long as he doesn't harm other people and doesn't harm the casino then it's fine, and we also don't know if the life of this shabby person is really a poor person or a millionaire who disguises himself so that no one recognizes him playing gambling. Whatever thing always happen in the world gambling as long as he is still gambling in his shabby clothes means he is still said to be someone who can afford to lose money.

Well, thats the problem, usually even people who dress neatly can get into trouble if they experience defeat and are emotional, so we don't need to discriminate against someone just by the way they dress. Even if it's shabby, at least the person is safe and doesn't bother other people or harm other people.

And because he had visited the casino very often and only wanted to gamble and when he was finished, he would immediately leave and not disturb the others, the officers allowed him to gamble. The officer didn't see him doing anything strange, and because he was used to it, he just watched the person. The person in the shabby clothes may be in disguise and he is a rich person, especially since the officers already know who he really is and where his money comes from.

However, gambling can attract people from various circles because of the factor of winning from gambling. That's what makes people from lower classes continue to go to gambling places because they still hope to win some money.

[stomachgrowls]

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

Maybe this was a misunderstanding from the OP's observant eyes that led to this topic, but I can agree that about mentally unstable people (people with mental illness, crazy,...) they can harm themselves and those around them, and it is best to create their own entertainment space that may involve gambling.

But imo, people's appearance is not a measure, but most of us rely on it to judge someone's wealth/poorness or, as OP observes here, their state of being god, but I can speculate that the case here is that the man in the story did not have much money and perhaps gambling was the only way he knew of to generate income, but ironically it was like a trap, hopefully he's not a gambling addict either.

Maybe you are right on the point that there seems to be a little misunderstanding in the story that the OP told. And from what I also saw, it seems that he is not talking about an addict; the only thing that seems to worry the OP is the physical condition and clothing of the gambler, which he refers to.

But still, from what I can think of, it seems that the gambler's clothing is not really like that of a beggar. Because the casino staff just let it go, which means it's still normal to look at the gamblers' clothing because if it doesn't distract their customers, maybe this op may have just exaggerated his story.

People do really love to judge and would really be believing on things that on whats up into their minds on which it isnt really just that ethical sometimes on making some conclusions and trying out to discriminate into someone or judging them basing on how they do behave and how they do dressed up. Why people cant just let people do play and do things that they do want without needing to make up some assumptions that
people who are mentally stable should only be the ones who would be entering the vicinity? It is really just that too much in speaking about those criteria on which we know that it cant really be just that
applicable considering that anyone could free to play as long they do have the money.

They would really be that kicked out on the place if ever they would really be doing such acts which it isnt already appropriate but judging them on how they do dress and how they do behave
then it is already that too much or really that crossing in the line in speaking about someones right. There are really just those people who are really that
easy to judge basing up on how you do look without even knowing the whole story. lol

[Strongkored]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

Shabby clothes or an appearance that can be said to be not good cannot be used as a reference that the person is mentally disturbed or has mental problems because everyone has their own way of dressing, and as long as he and the gambling house staff say he is fine then he is a mentally good person who just doesn't look like a normal person.
My guess is that he is just someone who really likes gambling and to fulfill his desire he works very hard so that his appearance doesn't look good but mentally he is aware of every act of his gambling.

[dothebeats]

Gambling platforms are entertainment places and not mental institutions. I think in letting the platform ban people who are mentally unstable/has mental illness will do more harm to them than good. It could be used against them on the grounds of discrimination, which is a very common angle through which people use to gain a hefty paycheck. No one can really know if a person is going through some mental illness or not. I've seen and talked to a lot of people who behave erratically but are really sane people with a lot of substance and depth than what they appear to be.

It is morally right to bar people who is going through some form of mental illness to something that could further destroy them. Then again, gambling places are there to entertain people whilst taking huge money from its patron, and not judge people based on what they appear from the outside.

[blckhawk]

Do we have a way to know that someone at a first glance is mentally unstable? Sure you can judge by how they dress but that's not how most of these dress so it's hard to tell, I am in favor of having them barred from gambling because they're likely to hurt themselves or the others in the case that something isn't going their way which is likely to happen when you're gambling.

[angrybirdy]

Do we have a way to know that someone at a first glance is mentally unstable? Sure you can judge by how they dress but that's not how most of these dress so it's hard to tell, I am in favor of having them barred from gambling because they're likely to hurt themselves or the others in the case that something isn't going their way which is likely to happen when you're gambling.

I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet .

[blckhawk]

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I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet .

Sometimes what you see is the truth when it comes to a person's appearance and you really can't help it because you're either being humane but you will be removed from your job so that's how it's going to be sometimes. Sure the dress code would be a good idea but the problem is that if they're really mentally unstable and they're looking like that then you're putting yourself in danger.

[Jody.Drummer]

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I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet .

Sometimes what you see is the truth when it comes to a person's appearance and you really can't help it because you're either being humane but you will be removed from your job so that's how it's going to be sometimes. Sure the dress code would be a good idea but the problem is that if they're really mentally unstable and they're looking like that then you're putting yourself in danger.

But sometimes not everything we see matches the actual facts, such as judging someone in terms of a shabby appearance and it turns out that his heart is clean or has a much better behavior and nature than people who wear jaz and office workers. So as an officer of course what must be prioritized is some precautions to minimize the risks that can occur in the comfort of other visitors to the casino.

Researching and confirming whether the person is a sane person or really has a mental disorder is something that must be done by the officers, so I will not blame if the officers at the casino are so strict in limiting people who look suspicious in terms of appearance, because after all this is the duty and obligation as an officer who has full responsibility to keep the situation safe and maintain the comfort of the visitors who come.

[irhact]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

There are many individuals that are mentality unstable but they don't get serotype as their disability is still in a manageable state, the individual hasn't cause any harm therefore I don't think we should chase them out of the bet shop. He didn't stay there for long, he only place his bet and left and I think that is okay. From your explanation, he does some job and it means he isn't a very mad individual yet, he's still doing things like everyone else so he should be allowed to gamble.

Mentally unstable individually are human beings too and they shouldn't be deprived of the entertainment of gambling, as a casino owner or betting shop owner, you can pay extra attention to them and if they want to cause any discomfort to your other customers, your security personnel should step in and keep peace in the casino, if the mentality disabled man isn't causing problem allow them to enjoy the game.

[Miles2006]

Firstly I will not judge someone's mental health from their appearance this common saying don't judge a book by the cover so don't judge from the look first, when I read the story I was expecting the part when you will say he fought or harassed someone in the casino shop but you never mentioned so how is this person mentally unstable?, I know of a man in my locality he always appears as a mad man but he is normal and strangers usually mistake him as a mad man, in my opinion if he's not causing any harm or threat then he's allowed to gamble, there's no law as such in a local casino shop but still some people will refuse to attend to someone dressed like that.

[Kasabus]

Firstly I will not judge someone's mental health from their appearance this common saying don't judge a book by the cover so don't judge from the look first, when I read the story I was expecting the part when you will say he fought or harassed someone in the casino shop but you never mentioned so how is this person mentally unstable?, I know of a man in my locality he always appears as a mad man but he is normal and strangers usually mistake him as a mad man, in my opinion if he's not causing any harm or threat then he's allowed to gamble, there's no law as such in a local casino shop but still some people will refuse to attend to someone dressed like that.

Sometimes people are judge due to their poor physical appearance. However, this is gambling, appearance is not important there as no matter how you look, at long as you have the money to play, you are very much welcome.

There are people who are consistent in going in a gambling shop and actually they are the biggest contributors of the profit of a casino as those who are rich are very smart in managing their money, they just gambling occasionally and they have control to just bet based on limit. These small time gamblers usually makes mistakes, they go aggressive and sometimes they'll end up borrowing because they go beyond their budget.

[junder]

If someone who is mentally unstable still comes to gambling to deposit money with the bookie why not, isn't that also a benefit for the casino to increase their income, it doesn't matter about mentally unstable people or people who are seriously addicted as long as they still have money and bringing money to the casino, all of which I think upholds freedom and there are no restrictions on that as long as they play quietly and don't disturb other players.

I just caught the behavior of a person like that, it seems that the man is addicted to gambling so that even though he is mentally unstable, he still makes money and spends his money on gambling, that's why I'm not sure the officers at physical casinos forbid that anyone seems to be free to gamble and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just that our view of the man might be too pitiful whereas they casino owners don't care about that. 

I agree with you, because basically what physical casinos are looking for is profit so they don't care about people who are mentally unstable, because if they still have enough money to gamble then I don't think it's a problem, also with an unsightly appearance, maybe He just disguises himself like that and in reality he is a person who has a lot of money , but he doesn't know what their motives are. Obviously, profit is still the main thing in physical casinos. and it's true what you said, if they are mentally unstable but don't disturb other players around them then that's not a problem either. Unless they disturb other people's comfort, casino security must take further action.

that won't be a problem for casino owners because what they are looking for is profit, where there is money we can gamble but if there is no money then we can't gamble, also looking at the appearance might make people in the physical casino a little disturbed , but the casino doesn't care about that, unless there are a lot of people who file complaints or protests about the presence of people who are mentally unstable and whose appearance disturbs comfort, then maybe the casino has to act, because it's impossible for them to want to lose a lot of customers just because of one people who make other customers uncomfortable.

[Lida93]

The casino employees aren't licensed psychic doctors, so they can't decide who is mentally sick and who is OK. I'm sure that if a guy starts acting weird, they will kick him out of the casino.

I assume that some physical signs can show that someone is not mentally stable. And I pointed to the fact that can such a person be barred from gambling based on some of these clear physical signs and not a psychiatric check.

The certification of a person to be said to be mentally unstable is not something that demands professionalism to know, for just by the abnormal behaviours and actions expressed by the individual it will be written all over him/her. What we can argument on about that needs a professional hand is only in the aspect of getting a cure it solution to the mental ailment.

Mentally deranged or unstable persons are well known for their violent behaviors of causing harm to others, they don't work for money neither have a sense to gamble for money but this man from the op does the opposite which makes me count him as not mentally unstable but as someone suffering from a depressive condition from life's challenges that had overwhelmed him making him to care less of himself

I don't think it is all mentally unstable people that are violent. I also feel that the ability to work and gamble is not a yardstick to conclude that somebody is sound. Many emotionally unbalanced people still work and are not violent.   

Alright, they may not all be that violent but still normal people won't feel comfortable occupying same space with them knowing that this person has a mental health problem.  And one more thing @fiatless, a depressed person isn't same as a mentally unstable person, the two conditions are entirely a different health issues, so a depressed person can still work and not be violent but I don't think this can be true with a mentally unstable person. He's mental so what sense has he to work ?

[Shishir99]

a depressed person isn't same as a mentally unstable person, the two conditions are entirely a different health issues, so a depressed person can still work and not be violent but I don't think this can be true with a mentally unstable person. He's mental so what sense has he to work ?

True. I agree with you Lida93. But I know some mentally unstable people still work at their family business to help their family. They work only what was instructed to them and always need guides and helping hands. The important thing is, even though they work and help in the family business, the members never give him cash money to spend according to his wishes, he always asks his family what he needs and they buy that thing for him.

So, he has no chance to gamble at all. The person I was talking about is our local and almost everyone knows him. Even if he goes to any shop and wants expensive things, the shop owners will refuse even if he wants to buy them with cash. Because they know that he is mentally unstable!