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December 27, 2023, 01:43:26 PM |
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.
When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.
My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
100% No, because gambling can cause mental health issues and gambling addiction definitely will make it worse for someone who already has a mental health issue. Based on your story, the guy might have personality disorder, depression, ADHD or other mental health issue from his gambling addiction in the past. However, an employee nor the owner of the bet shop will not reject or ban any of their customers who might have a mental health issue as long as the custommer paying with cash and never create any trouble to their business. Business is business, there is no legitimate reason why the bet shop must reject/ban anyone with mental issue to place bet on them.
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December 27, 2023, 01:55:41 PM |
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I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet . Sometimes what you see is the truth when it comes to a person's appearance and you really can't help it because you're either being humane but you will be removed from your job so that's how it's going to be sometimes. Sure the dress code would be a good idea but the problem is that if they're really mentally unstable and they're looking like that then you're putting yourself in danger. Yet, it is unfair and inaccurate to judge someone only on the basis of how they look; it is as though we are assuming things about them or making views about them without knowing anything about their character, behavior, or their possible situations. As you mentioned, judging someone by their appearance can be cruel and could result in our removal from our jobs. One thing is that we have no proof of their actions in real life. People who are great pretenders, like wolves in sheep's clothing, can sometimes deceive others. There are also those who experience a gambling addiction without showing any outward symptoms or attitudes connected to it. You never know, though they might have been more likely to cause trouble from the area and the bar person did not pay attention to them because he might have believed that they were mentally stable even though they are not. Therefore, we must always keep in mind that it is more fair and kind to approach others with understanding and make an effort to comprehend their situations and experiences before throwing judgement.
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December 27, 2023, 08:57:42 PM |
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It seems to me that when it comes to making money, no one cares how you dress, how mentally healthy you are, or what your financial situation is. In my opinion, if you pay attention to the mental state of every client, you simply will not be able to make money. In my opinion, this is the harsh conditions of business, where if you show weakness, your place will be taken by competitors very quickly. I think mine question we need to ask ourselves is whether mentally unstable people can be restrictions from gambling? If yes, then how would that be done. Even preventing children from gambling is very hard let alone talking about adult that are mentally unstable. It is when you see a person and you feel like this person is mentally unstable before you think of the next step to take. Gambling is mostly done online especially for cryptocurrency casino which can be very difficult to know who is who and how to prevent some certain issues. It is never easy to know whether the person gambling online is mentally unstable or not.
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December 27, 2023, 09:51:32 PM |
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Since you've mentioned the guy that didn't dress well, I don't think that this is all about the way he dress for assuming that he's mentally unstable or ill. But going straight to the question without the relation of the story you've mentioned, there's always the ground where the casino can stop someone from entering their premises. If that person does a lot of crazy things inside their premises, they all have the might to stop and ban him whether he is mentally unstable or not. But if it's just by the looks and judging like that, there can be some retaliate that person can do based on how he will be judged by just simply observing it without proper proofs.
If its a physical center of casino gambling can restrict anyone they feel like to stop from gambling, their is something I notice very well in gambling if you mentally derailed their is every possiblity that they will restrict the gambler not gamble with them when they notice, and they can only do so when you come to the gambling centre to obstruct their business, I know very well that if they dont have a genuine reason to ban someone not to enter their premises it will cause a shortage of patronage, that is why some centers of gambling betting environment always compromise with their customers That's right, they all have the rights to stop someone they think are suspicious and will cause a ruckus. But I think that each customer that they see will be given time to be observed before they do any action like kicking him outside the premises or will keep him inside and continue to gamble. Usually, if these people that don't dress well have got mone and it's seen at the entrance or have been checked, they'll just allow these people to enjoy their day and win or lose, they'll still get that person's money through losing their games.
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December 27, 2023, 09:55:41 PM |
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That's really hard to do because it is subjective at the time of placing bets. And then to some degree there are levels of instability. What constitutes someone who passes the eye test and what doesn't. In the end if someone isn't doing something illegal than casinos will most likely let them bet other wise they set themselves up for discrimination lawsuits.
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December 27, 2023, 09:59:38 PM Last edit: December 27, 2023, 10:12:10 PM by Fatunad |
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I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet . Sometimes what you see is the truth when it comes to a person's appearance and you really can't help it because you're either being humane but you will be removed from your job so that's how it's going to be sometimes. Sure the dress code would be a good idea but the problem is that if they're really mentally unstable and they're looking like that then you're putting yourself in danger. Yet, it is unfair and inaccurate to judge someone only on the basis of how they look; it is as though we are assuming things about them or making views about them without knowing anything about their character, behavior, or their possible situations. As you mentioned, judging someone by their appearance can be cruel and could result in our removal from our jobs. One thing is that we have no proof of their actions in real life. People who are great pretenders, like wolves in sheep's clothing, can sometimes deceive others. There are also those who experience a gambling addiction without showing any outward symptoms or attitudes connected to it. You never know, though they might have been more likely to cause trouble from the area and the bar person did not pay attention to them because he might have believed that they were mentally stable even though they are not. Therefore, we must always keep in mind that it is more fair and kind to approach others with understanding and make an effort to comprehend their situations and experiences before throwing judgement. People are naturally judgmental, its not really that a shocker. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) . When someone do really visit out on a casino venue then everyone is really that free on doing so. Dont mind others gestures or on how the way they look and behave because we do really have different appearances and on how we do deal up with things. It is really just that normal that there might be some noticing others appearances but judging out is never been that ideal or something that would be good into consideration. How you would be able to know if someone isnt really that mentally stable? The way they do behave? The way that they do looks? You are really just that too judgmental if you are really that something like this. You cant really just that make yourself to have that kind of behavior or something not really that recommended at all. Dont make yourself that having kind of views into other people so easily. You would really be that getting that kind of negative impression towards other peoples eyes. We dont like into those people who are really that easy to judge.
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Casdinyard
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December 27, 2023, 10:14:48 PM |
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.
When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.
My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
Should people with violent tendencies be allowed near children, near firearms, or knives? That's basically what you're asking. Of course there's no law that prohibits people like these from ever getting their hands on such weapons and personal effects, and so do people with mental health problems and gambling, but I think you know where I'm heading with this. People with mental health problems who decide to gamble will only cause themselves even more problems in the future. Which then leads to them getting addicted, which becomes a separate yet real problem on its own, becoming way harder for the person to deal with himself and his problems as time passes by. When you give someone who can't take a break another way for them to exert their escapist's tendencies, they get addicted to it and they end up becoming problematic. Whereas if you give them the actual help that they need they get to become better and more acceptable versions of themselves. There's no legal obligation for us to stop someone who's already mentally unstable to gamble his life away. But I think as humans we should be ethically and morally responsible for the welfare of one another, and we should act accordingly if we ever get into the same situation as OP has been.
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December 27, 2023, 10:19:28 PM |
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
I think the problem with things like this is that it seems to involve judgement of an individual. Who is to say if someone is mentally unstable or not? How is this information to be obtained? You have to watch out for slippery slopes with these sorts of things. Maybe if a person signed some document claiming to be mentally unstable then you could have a discussion, but the idea of observing someone and determining they are mentally unstable and denying them certain things seems like a bad idea to me.
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December 27, 2023, 10:40:59 PM |
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That's right, they all have the rights to stop someone they think are suspicious and will cause a ruckus. But I think that each customer that they see will be given time to be observed before they do any action like kicking him outside the premises or will keep him inside and continue to gamble. Usually, if these people that don't dress well have got mone and it's seen at the entrance or have been checked, they'll just allow these people to enjoy their day and win or lose, they'll still get that person's money through losing their games. It's indeed wrong to make hasty judgments based solely on appearances. Inclusive approach should be adopted that allows people a chance to demonstrate their behavior and intentions. It's important to maintain a secure and orderly environment within establishments. Security measures are in place to ensure the safety and well-being of both customers and staff. Addressing potentially disruptive behavior is a valid concern, and intervention may be necessary in certain situations. The contention that individuals who may not dress well should still be allowed to enjoy their time and engage in activities like gambling underscores the principle of fairness and non-discrimination. Making assumptions about someone's character solely based on their attire can lead to unfair treatment and exclusion. The financial capacity or the ability to engage in the activities offered by the establishment should be a primary consideration.
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December 27, 2023, 10:50:50 PM |
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The certification of a person to be said to be mentally unstable is not something that demands professionalism to know, for just by the abnormal behaviours and actions expressed by the individual it will be written all over him/her. What we can argument on about that needs a professional hand is only in the aspect of getting a cure it solution to the mental ailment.
On the contrary, not just anyone can state or determine the actual mental state of an individual. Unless of course, you want to judge a person purely by appearance which is what is presented for you and others to see. There are also mentally unbalanced people that dress okay and behave somewhat normally that you won’t at first notice anything amiss about them. We definitely need a professional to first diagnose the mental health of an individual as well as getting the proper treatment required.
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I think the problem with things like this is that it seems to involve judgement of an individual. Who is to say if someone is mentally unstable or not? How is this information to be obtained? You have to watch out for slippery slopes with these sorts of things.
This kind of assessment needs to involve a psychologist expert if there is indeed a statement letter from the relevant party about the mental disorder experienced. But of course this will not be done randomly in people who appear to have mental disorders according to our observations. But if they are the closest people or family, it is necessary to do some checks to determine if they appear to have a mental disorder due to gambling or not, This needs to be done. Maybe if a person signed some document claiming to be mentally unstable then you could have a discussion, but the idea of observing someone and determining they are mentally unstable and denying them certain things seems like a bad idea to me.
But when we do the idea of mental disorders in strangers, and they don't accept it, of course we will accept the problem of unilateral accusations that are detrimental to the accused person. But when someone has committed a criminal act or an act that can endanger others, the accusation directly and reporting to the authorities is not a problem, because there is an element of mental disorder that arises right away.
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December 28, 2023, 05:03:51 AM |
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Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? No, I don't think so because gambling involves money and people should be mentally stable in my opinion especially in emotions because when you cannot control your emotions you will hit by an endless storm of the gambling world.
But of course, there are people who agree that people with mentally unstable should do gamble but those are just my opinion
Real gambling involves money but it is also possible to play it for free. A person can be mentally unstable but they can still have a money with them. So, if you own a casino you will definitely allow them to place their bets, and it is not going to be your obligation anymore, what ever happens to them next. A gambler is only responsible for themselves, also their guardians if they are still young and if they have problems like the guy in our story here. Emotions and mental state is I think not the same, but both of them can influence our decisions. A person might be mentally challenged but we don't know, what if their emotions are still in a good state?
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December 28, 2023, 05:08:57 AM |
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Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble? No, I don't think so because gambling involves money and people should be mentally stable in my opinion especially in emotions because when you cannot control your emotions you will hit by an endless storm of the gambling world.
But of course, there are people who agree that people with mentally unstable should do gamble but those are just my opinion
Real gambling involves money but it is also possible to play it for free. A person can be mentally unstable but they can still have a money with them. So, if you own a casino you will definitely allow them to place their bets, and it is not going to be your obligation anymore, what ever happens to them next. A gambler is only responsible for themselves, also their guardians if they are still young and if they have problems like the guy in our story here. Emotions and mental state is I think not the same, but both of them can influence our decisions. A person might be mentally challenged but we don't know, what if their emotions are still in a good state? from the situation described, gamblers with mental disorders just put money and bet then leave. Maybe only a few people around the casino will be disturbed by the arrival. but that won't last long if it turns out that the gambler with a mental disorder is betting on the money he earned himself. do not rob or harm other people. I think if this situation continues, the gamblers who are there will not have a problem with it. because they know the gambler in question won't cause problems by disturbing other gamblers or even causing chaos in the casino.
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December 28, 2023, 05:46:47 AM |
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Firstly I will not judge someone's mental health from their appearance this common saying don't judge a book by the cover so don't judge from the look first, when I read the story I was expecting the part when you will say he fought or harassed someone in the casino shop but you never mentioned so how is this person mentally unstable?, I know of a man in my locality he always appears as a mad man but he is normal and strangers usually mistake him as a mad man, in my opinion if he's not causing any harm or threat then he's allowed to gamble, there's no law as such in a local casino shop but still some people will refuse to attend to someone dressed like that.
Sometimes people are judge due to their poor physical appearance. However, this is gambling, appearance is not important there as no matter how you look, at long as you have the money to play, you are very much welcome. There are people who are consistent in going in a gambling shop and actually they are the biggest contributors of the profit of a casino as those who are rich are very smart in managing their money, they just gambling occasionally and they have control to just bet based on limit. These small time gamblers usually makes mistakes, they go aggressive and sometimes they'll end up borrowing because they go beyond their budget. Some rich gamblers who are disciplined can manage their money, but not all. Similarly the low rollers. Most often people would qualify rich and low rollers by appearance. Not knowing that people are different in terms of gambling. It all matters in the mind of the gambler, what he's about to do with his time in the casino. The appearance doesn't matter, the attitude does. That's why people are encouraged to focus on the purpose that led them to the casino house or whatever gambling shop they find themselves in. It'll also help the gambler to think well on his next gambling moves. Any gambler who is educated on the ethics and disciplines required in gambling doesn't need to fear losing his budget or going to borrow money to fulfill his gambling goals. However, you'd notice that not all gamblers have this knowledge, regardless of the class they belong to. We, gamblers, need to decide on a routine and keep by it, plan according to our earnings and profits, and do what should yield some profits for us, gamblers. It's been quite a long time since society never wanted gambling addicts, hence no one should be encouraged to make similar mistakes as those who ended up addicted. No one has been known as gambling proof, some who appear responsible can end up addicted and the player who doesn't dress well, and looks dirty, may end up escaping addiction. In the history of gambling as a journey, addiction should be the most concern, for both parties, the rich and low rollers. Because none among them would be able to survive it easily. Addiction is the main mental illness or disorder, which we should be worried or cautious about when gambling, instead of looking at clothes. When a gambler begins to get aggressive he'll need to watch his finances or seek help, don't know if this only happens to the low rollers, I think the high rollers also experience the problem of wagering too much and losing out, which leads to transfer of aggression.
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December 28, 2023, 07:07:41 AM |
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I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet . Sometimes what you see is the truth when it comes to a person's appearance and you really can't help it because you're either being humane but you will be removed from your job so that's how it's going to be sometimes. Sure the dress code would be a good idea but the problem is that if they're really mentally unstable and they're looking like that then you're putting yourself in danger. Yet, it is unfair and inaccurate to judge someone only on the basis of how they look; it is as though we are assuming things about them or making views about them without knowing anything about their character, behavior, or their possible situations. As you mentioned, judging someone by their appearance can be cruel and could result in our removal from our jobs. One thing is that we have no proof of their actions in real life. People who are great pretenders, like wolves in sheep's clothing, can sometimes deceive others. There are also those who experience a gambling addiction without showing any outward symptoms or attitudes connected to it. You never know, though they might have been more likely to cause trouble from the area and the bar person did not pay attention to them because he might have believed that they were mentally stable even though they are not. Therefore, we must always keep in mind that it is more fair and kind to approach others with understanding and make an effort to comprehend their situations and experiences before throwing judgement. People are naturally judgmental, its not really that a shocker. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) . When someone do really visit out on a casino venue then everyone is really that free on doing so. Dont mind others gestures or on how the way they look and behave because we do really have different appearances and on how we do deal up with things. It is really just that normal that there might be some noticing others appearances but judging out is never been that ideal or something that would be good into consideration. How you would be able to know if someone isnt really that mentally stable? The way they do behave? The way that they do looks? You are really just that too judgmental if you are really that something like this. You cant really just that make yourself to have that kind of behavior or something not really that recommended at all. Dont make yourself that having kind of views into other people so easily. You would really be that getting that kind of negative impression towards other peoples eyes. We dont like into those people who are really that easy to judge. As I mentioned in my earlier responses, I'm just giving everyone additional advise to stop making snap judgments about individuals based just on how they seem. People are highly judgmental, as you mentioned, but we should train our minds to control it and set boundaries. Similar to gambling, it is impossible to determine whether someone is mentally ill. Regarding the original question, there isn't really a definitive response because people's mental stability varies greatly and it's difficult to determine whether someone is mentally unstable. You can't tell, for example, if a gambler with a mischievous smile on his face and constant laughter has stable mental stability or not. To be honest, from what I've seen, some mentally ill folks still want to gamble. Those with mental instability attempt to act normal in order to fool others. Still, people make excellent pretenders. Okay, that concludes it.
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December 28, 2023, 07:16:53 AM |
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I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet . Sometimes what you see is the truth when it comes to a person's appearance and you really can't help it because you're either being humane but you will be removed from your job so that's how it's going to be sometimes. Sure the dress code would be a good idea but the problem is that if they're really mentally unstable and they're looking like that then you're putting yourself in danger. Yet, it is unfair and inaccurate to judge someone only on the basis of how they look; it is as though we are assuming things about them or making views about them without knowing anything about their character, behavior, or their possible situations. As you mentioned, judging someone by their appearance can be cruel and could result in our removal from our jobs. One thing is that we have no proof of their actions in real life. People who are great pretenders, like wolves in sheep's clothing, can sometimes deceive others. There are also those who experience a gambling addiction without showing any outward symptoms or attitudes connected to it. You never know, though they might have been more likely to cause trouble from the area and the bar person did not pay attention to them because he might have believed that they were mentally stable even though they are not. Therefore, we must always keep in mind that it is more fair and kind to approach others with understanding and make an effort to comprehend their situations and experiences before throwing judgement. People are naturally judgmental, its not really that a shocker. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) . When someone do really visit out on a casino venue then everyone is really that free on doing so. Dont mind others gestures or on how the way they look and behave because we do really have different appearances and on how we do deal up with things. It is really just that normal that there might be some noticing others appearances but judging out is never been that ideal or something that would be good into consideration. How you would be able to know if someone isnt really that mentally stable? The way they do behave? The way that they do looks? You are really just that too judgmental if you are really that something like this. You cant really just that make yourself to have that kind of behavior or something not really that recommended at all. Dont make yourself that having kind of views into other people so easily. You would really be that getting that kind of negative impression towards other peoples eyes. We dont like into those people who are really that easy to judge. As I mentioned in my earlier responses, I'm just giving everyone additional advise to stop making snap judgments about individuals based just on how they seem. People are highly judgmental, as you mentioned, but we should train our minds to control it and set boundaries. Similar to gambling, it is impossible to determine whether someone is mentally ill. Regarding the original question, there isn't really a definitive response because people's mental stability varies greatly and it's difficult to determine whether someone is mentally unstable. You can't tell, for example, if a gambler with a mischievous smile on his face and constant laughter has stable mental stability or not. To be honest, from what I've seen, some mentally ill folks still want to gamble. Those with mental instability attempt to act normal in order to fool others. Still, people make excellent pretenders. Okay, that concludes it. All opinions that have mentioned above has a valid point, seems like we have different perspective about this topic but yeah, being judgemental is like a thing nowadays and we can't deny the fact that sometimes we judge a everything we see in our minds and I thinks it's okay as long as you keep it to yourself and you can't offend others by your judgement. Please note that not everything we see physically is real, especially every person is good at hiding their Identity and true feelings.
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I'm in favor too, for the safety of others especially if a person is a legit and clinically diagnosed with mental illness, But if a person is being judged because of physical appearance and there's a proof that this person didn't do anything bad inside the casino/gambling shop then It seems like it would be unfair to them if they were suddenly banned just because of a misjudgment and the way a person dressed. Maybe the best thing to do is to tell and talk to the person about the dress code or the casino themselves should make rules about this matter, not to suddenly ban the person from entering the shop because people think he is mentally unstable even though it has not been proven yet . Sometimes what you see is the truth when it comes to a person's appearance and you really can't help it because you're either being humane but you will be removed from your job so that's how it's going to be sometimes. Sure the dress code would be a good idea but the problem is that if they're really mentally unstable and they're looking like that then you're putting yourself in danger. Yet, it is unfair and inaccurate to judge someone only on the basis of how they look; it is as though we are assuming things about them or making views about them without knowing anything about their character, behavior, or their possible situations. As you mentioned, judging someone by their appearance can be cruel and could result in our removal from our jobs. One thing is that we have no proof of their actions in real life. People who are great pretenders, like wolves in sheep's clothing, can sometimes deceive others. There are also those who experience a gambling addiction without showing any outward symptoms or attitudes connected to it. You never know, though they might have been more likely to cause trouble from the area and the bar person did not pay attention to them because he might have believed that they were mentally stable even though they are not. Therefore, we must always keep in mind that it is more fair and kind to approach others with understanding and make an effort to comprehend their situations and experiences before throwing judgement. People are naturally judgmental, its not really that a shocker. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) . When someone do really visit out on a casino venue then everyone is really that free on doing so. Dont mind others gestures or on how the way they look and behave because we do really have different appearances and on how we do deal up with things. It is really just that normal that there might be some noticing others appearances but judging out is never been that ideal or something that would be good into consideration. How you would be able to know if someone isnt really that mentally stable? The way they do behave? The way that they do looks? You are really just that too judgmental if you are really that something like this. You cant really just that make yourself to have that kind of behavior or something not really that recommended at all. Dont make yourself that having kind of views into other people so easily. You would really be that getting that kind of negative impression towards other peoples eyes. We dont like into those people who are really that easy to judge. As I mentioned in my earlier responses, I'm just giving everyone additional advise to stop making snap judgments about individuals based just on how they seem. People are highly judgmental, as you mentioned, but we should train our minds to control it and set boundaries. Similar to gambling, it is impossible to determine whether someone is mentally ill. Regarding the original question, there isn't really a definitive response because people's mental stability varies greatly and it's difficult to determine whether someone is mentally unstable. You can't tell, for example, if a gambler with a mischievous smile on his face and constant laughter has stable mental stability or not. To be honest, from what I've seen, some mentally ill folks still want to gamble. Those with mental instability attempt to act normal in order to fool others. Still, people make excellent pretenders. Okay, that concludes it. You are right definitely, some people actually see other people as mentally unstable judging from the way they look or appear in terms of dressing and overall look, while I still will believe that this is actually one of the ways to never go wrong in judging or finding out who is mentally stable, and who is not, there is stil chances one could be wrong. Some people are naturally dirty, they always appear in dirty clothes that some of us will tend to assume that they are mentally unstable. There is someone like that over here in my area, I think that he is actually mentally unstable but not to the extent that he cannot gamble, this man gambles like crazy, there is a lotto being played every day here in my country and some other African countries, the game is played 5 rounds every day, and this man plays it all, whether he has ever won, and what he does with the money he wins, I don't know, but fact is that, we all consider him a mad man, but then, his mental instability has or have not stopped him from gambling.
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December 28, 2023, 07:26:11 AM |
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Op, occasionally I have seen this category of mentally unstable people giving out pool games and football tips to people but not gambling themselves and in some cases people win from their games and in return give them money and some of them do this to survive, even someone in this condition I know saw me and insisted I should play the game he gave to me and to my greatest surprise I won the game but the second time I tried it out I didn't win again, I wonder what that give them those games they give to people because to my knowledge I know they don't follow football events or go watch matches, I kind of think there is spirit behind them going to betting games or giving out of games.
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December 28, 2023, 07:34:51 AM |
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a depressed person isn't same as a mentally unstable person, the two conditions are entirely a different health issues, so a depressed person can still work and not be violent but I don't think this can be true with a mentally unstable person. He's mental so what sense has he to work ?
True. I agree with you Lida93. But I know some mentally unstable people still work at their family business to help their family. They work only what was instructed to them and always need guides and helping hands. The important thing is, even though they work and help in the family business, the members never give him cash money to spend according to his wishes, he always asks his family what he needs and they buy that thing for him. So, he has no chance to gamble at all. The person I was talking about is our local and almost everyone knows him. Even if he goes to any shop and wants expensive things, the shop owners will refuse even if he wants to buy them with cash. Because they know that he is mentally unstable! A mentally unstable person sometimes gamble,this is what I have seen,but in most cases,those ones who have the ability to find money like that are always harmless,they do not disturb other person's peace which makes their people allow them come close to where humans are,and they are also free to do whatever they like in as much as they do not harm,but for those ones who harm people,I think people do not allow them get close where people are as well because they can pose a threat on human life,and cause problem as well. Most atimes,they give people draw code that they see spiritually,which if you try,it plays.I think this is the only relationship they have with the sane people,and their sanity level will determine whether people will allow them come close to them or not.
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December 28, 2023, 07:35:23 AM |
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
It's important to remember that a person's appearance doesn't necessarily indicate their mental health. Simply looking at someone's clothes isn't enough to determine if they're mentally unstable. We can't assume why they're dressed a certain way, but it's possible that it could be related to their gambling habits. Based on your post, it seems that the person you saw is mentally stable since he didn't misbehave in the gambling house and knew how to bet. We can't be sure if they're begging for money, which could explain their clothes. In some countries, begging is a job because the amount of money they can earn from it encourages people to continue begging.
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