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December 29, 2023, 04:25:48 AM
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The hope of getting lucky will always be there because they still often gamble so they will not spend their days gambling. They may use the money from donations to gamble because there will be people who feel sorry for them and will give them some money to buy food. But if they instead use the money to gamble, that is disrespectful to the people who already sympathize with them. But it's up to them with the money and we don't know for sure either.

I thought that if someone is mentally unstable, people will not donate anything to him directly, rather they may donate to his family or to the charitable organization, if any, who is taking care of him. So if some how he has direct access to the donation money, there is some serious flaw in the whole eco system that needs to be addressed.
We would not want the donation money to be wasted in this way.


And the security at the betting shop always allows that person to gamble so that he will continue returning when he wants to gamble. He may continue like that until he finally wins and if there is an update about that person's story, we will all be happy to know how the story continues.

The gambling shop cares more about the money they are getting from the gambler and they may not care of this health and mental status of the gambler. As long as he is depositing, they are happy with him. That's a sad reality but the truth about some of the physical gambling casinos.

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December 29, 2023, 12:10:02 PM
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A mentally unstable person sometimes gamble,this is what I have seen,but in most cases,those ones who have the ability to find money like that are always harmless,they do not disturb other person's peace which makes their people allow them come close to where humans are,and they are also free to do whatever they like in as much as they do not harm

Even though they gamble, I believe they should not be allowed to gamble. Because they can make bad decisions that could harm them financially, mentally unstable people do not have full control of themself. So, why on this earth they should be allowed to gamble? It's easy to manipulate them and cheat them which people are likely to do if they find out that the person they are playing with is mentally unstable. It's the house response to find out those people who is mentally unstable and restrict them from gambling.
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December 29, 2023, 12:18:08 PM
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If i own a physical gambling casinos, to be honest i may not allow such kind of people who are mentally challenged to come in and gamble, you cannot predict them and the kind of illness in them, if the loose a bet and engage in violence at the betting casino what will i do, they can be weird atimes in causing fight and distractions with other gamblers there and that alone may decrease the reputation some of my customers may have towards the casino when they discovered that a mental instable person is coming to gamble and cause trouble.



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December 29, 2023, 12:20:18 PM
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If i own a physical gambling casinos, to be honest i may not allow such kind of people who are mentally challenged to come in and gamble, you cannot predict them and the kind of illness in them, if the loose a bet and engage in violence at the betting casino what will i do, they can be weird atimes in causing fight and distractions with other gamblers there and that alone may decrease the reputation some of my customers may have towards the casino when they discovered that a mental instable person is coming to gamble and cause trouble.

Right. Legally and ethically, it depends on where you are. Some places have rules against letting mentally unstable folks gamble. But judging someone's mental state isn't easy. It's a bit of a tightrope between protecting people and letting them make their own choices. If you're worried, the better i think would be not to allow them.

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December 29, 2023, 01:17:38 PM
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If i own a physical gambling casinos, to be honest i may not allow such kind of people who are mentally challenged to come in and gamble, you cannot predict them and the kind of illness in them, if the loose a bet and engage in violence at the betting casino what will i do, they can be weird atimes in causing fight and distractions with other gamblers there and that alone may decrease the reputation some of my customers may have towards the casino when they discovered that a mental instable person is coming to gamble and cause trouble.

Right. Legally and ethically, it depends on where you are. Some places have rules against letting mentally unstable folks gamble. But judging someone's mental state isn't easy. It's a bit of a tightrope between protecting people and letting them make their own choices. If you're worried, the better i think would be not to allow them.
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Ethically speaking it is not acceptable in my opinion too, unless he has some kind of guidance or help, under the supervision of a legal curator or similar guardian figure. It is known that some people have special vulnerabilities towards addiction, and I think that the mentally impaired, in general (exceptions apart), conform a specially vulnerable collective.

Legally, it depends on each jurisdiction, although I think that nowadays most of them forbid the underage gambling, and by extension gambling by the mentally unstable.

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December 29, 2023, 01:31:22 PM
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it seems that things like this will only happen in gambling shops which do not have security or clear rules regarding who can play on their premises. because if that happened at a reputable casino, maybe the security or employees there would forbid him from gambling, because mentally unstable people shouldn't gamble and waste their money. apart from not being able to play well, they might also throw a tantrum or do something that could harm the casino, and that is why mentally unstable people should not be allowed to gamble.

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December 29, 2023, 01:35:29 PM
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With that argument, they are also hoping for some luck and even the money they use comes from those donation that they've got while seeing for goodhearted people that will passed by, who knows if one day luck permits and allow them to win right? and  in terms of unstable people who also attached with gambling, they are also using the veneu either they are having fun or also aiming for luck and enjoy the money that they will earn from gambling.

As far as the security can vouch with their attitude they should be allowed to play, anyway, the decision is for the owner  to take whether he will allow it or he will not if he see or feel threat with the person, but as long as there's none and the owner and the security are allowing then it's good to go.
The hope of getting lucky will always be there because they still often gamble so they will not spend their days gambling. They may use the money from donations to gamble because there will be people who feel sorry for them and will give them some money to buy food. But if they instead use the money to gamble, that is disrespectful to the people who already sympathize with them. But it's up to them with the money and we don't know for sure either.

And the security at the betting shop always allows that person to gamble so that he will continue returning when he wants to gamble. He may continue like that until he finally wins and if there is an update about that person's story, we will all be happy to know how the story continues.
Games of chance should be fun, not addicting. Giving money to charity that is then used for gambling is sad. I think this behavior shows disrespect for other people's kindness. Not only a matter of choice, but also of moral duty. It's also hard to feel safe at the betting shop. It is morally wrong and harmful to let a problem gambler keep doing it. They support a bad habit. Such things shouldn't happen because of rules. Finally, it's not a good idea to expect a "happy ending." It encourages the dangerous thought that gambling will work. Change the story and encourage safe gambling so that fun doesn't turn into an addiction.
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December 29, 2023, 01:54:34 PM
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

The attendant is the one who should drive away what people think as a mentally unstable bettor because as long as he is not causing a panic or harming anyone he has all the rights and the privileges like all the bettors in the vicinity, I have also seen people betting in our local betting station but the other bettors just ignore him because he is minding his own, and he is not disturbing anyone.
Only a professional has the right to examine any person because what we see in a person does not reflect his true character is, people should understand others as long as he is not causing disturbances.
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December 30, 2023, 06:57:12 AM
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I thought that if someone is mentally unstable, people will not donate anything to him directly, rather they may donate to his family or to the charitable organization, if any, who is taking care of him. So if some how he has direct access to the donation money, there is some serious flaw in the whole eco system that needs to be addressed.
We would not want the donation money to be wasted in this way.
Maybe there are still people who will continue to donate money to mentally unstable people. At least people could still give food to that person. But to donate, we should channel it to charities that are used to dealing with this problem so that what we give can be distributed right on target.

The gambling shop cares more about the money they are getting from the gambler and they may not care of this health and mental status of the gambler. As long as he is depositing, they are happy with him. That's a sad reality but the truth about some of the physical gambling casinos.
Although gambling shops care more about their money, they should also be able to see the people who come to their shops. And if there are people who really intend to interfere with their business, they can refuse them before they come inside. But the case that happened was that the person had no intention of disturbing him but just wanted to gamble as usual and would leave after he finished gambling. This should be a good example for us where the person can leave after finishing gambling and not get angry because he lost.

Games of chance should be fun, not addicting. Giving money to charity that is then used for gambling is sad. I think this behavior shows disrespect for other people's kindness. Not only a matter of choice, but also of moral duty. It's also hard to feel safe at the betting shop. It is morally wrong and harmful to let a problem gambler keep doing it. They support a bad habit. Such things shouldn't happen because of rules. Finally, it's not a good idea to expect a "happy ending." It encourages the dangerous thought that gambling will work. Change the story and encourage safe gambling so that fun doesn't turn into an addiction.
Yes, it's like we fund their gambling so they can keep gambling. And it is a disguised fraud because they use charity to get money, and the money is used for gambling. Maintaining personal safety anywhere is a must, including in a betting shop, because it is a form of responsibility towards ourselves. We can expect a happy ending when we win, but the problem is that only a few gamblers can get it, while other gamblers will only experience defeat. And it is very painful for them because many of them use big money to bet.

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December 30, 2023, 06:59:43 AM
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That's not really a question you have to ask because the only right answer to that is that no, they're not allowed to gamble because they're going to be danger to themselves and to the people around them, we all know how frustrating gambling is and imagine if you're in the shoes of that mentally unstable person, you're probably going to think that they'll take their losses even harder which will definitely happen because they're not good at handling their emotions.
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December 30, 2023, 07:06:17 AM
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But sometimes not everything we see matches the actual facts, such as judging someone in terms of a shabby appearance and it turns out that his heart is clean or has a much better behavior and nature than people who wear jaz and office workers. So as an officer of course what must be prioritized is some precautions to minimize the risks that can occur in the comfort of other visitors to the casino.

Researching and confirming whether the person is a sane person or really has a mental disorder is something that must be done by the officers, so I will not blame if the officers at the casino are so strict in limiting people who look suspicious in terms of appearance, because after all this is the duty and obligation as an officer who has full responsibility to keep the situation safe and maintain the comfort of the visitors who come.
Are you like living in a dream world? Have you heard of the saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover"? Because as much as you want to believe that someone is good inside, no one's going to give you the time of the day if you're not impressive at first glance and that's the reality plus the time it takes to know a person fully is going to take a long time so they do cut corners and just do what they think is for the best. You're also contradictory with your statement, you're saying not to judge someone then agree that the officer will have to do what it takes to keep the others comfortable.



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December 30, 2023, 10:57:35 AM
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That's not really a question you have to ask because the only right answer to that is that no, they're not allowed to gamble because they're going to be danger to themselves and to the people around them, we all know how frustrating gambling is and imagine if you're in the shoes of that mentally unstable person, you're probably going to think that they'll take their losses even harder which will definitely happen because they're not good at handling their emotions.
Well, it is difficult to accept things like this, it is natural that mentally unstable people should not even go near a casino, because it is obvious that things can be very dangerous, in this order of ideas we must see gambling as one of the options that It is very favorable that it be done in other ways, for example a person who is an adult must know well his condition, so gambling, casinos, sports betting, there are activities that they cannot do, as well as taking care of children, Ancions are things that should not be allowed, worse as we are in a society where now freedoms are very different from what they were before because there are many things that go overlooked, but in the specific case of a casino a person like that, what can cause It is because there are many crises, and that is what is dangerous, because it is impossible to say what can happen or how they can do to have a better vision of this in the casinos.

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December 30, 2023, 11:06:25 AM
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That shouldn't definitely cause him to be ambitious here. the effective way is to make him do something other than gambling. If he is married, it is very dangerous for his family. However, gambling, apart from games, can sometimes be a place of outlet for people who feel that their mentality has been damaged. Even though I can't completely prohibit it, it's still better not to do it for those whose mental condition is very bad. This affects his psychology and can even get worse.
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December 30, 2023, 11:21:40 AM
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There are few questions that will stands to answer this topic .

1st - He has money? if yes then why hinder them or bother them from betting?

2nd - Do they behave like Normal? if yes then why we care more? they have life and rights to do what they need .

3rd - Is there rules in casino that they are prohibiting mentally unstable people to bet?  gambling is a business in which they will accept all bettors as long as this bringing them Money .









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December 30, 2023, 11:31:39 AM
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People generally enter gambling out of curiosity. However, some people who are mentally disturbed by gambling become more addicted to gambling and drugs. People in my area who are in family turmoil and always addicted to drugs are mostly physically visiting offline gambling dens. But it is quite curious that some people fall into the circle of friends and become addicted to gambling. However, if we consider the number of people who are addicted to gambling, gambling addiction is usually more from the family which had a gambler addicted to gambling in the past.
I can't go with your words because many gambling addicts have children who grow up to be good children. I have seen children of many gambling addicts who have become human beings through education and have brought their own lives and families into a bright light. However, there are cases in two-one gambling addicted families that the children have become addicted to gambling by following their parents' gambling addiction.

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December 30, 2023, 12:07:50 PM
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That's not really a question you have to ask because the only right answer to that is that no, they're not allowed to gamble because they're going to be danger to themselves and to the people around them, we all know how frustrating gambling is and imagine if you're in the shoes of that mentally unstable person, you're probably going to think that they'll take their losses even harder which will definitely happen because they're not good at handling their emotions.
Well, it is difficult to accept things like this, it is natural that mentally unstable people should not even go near a casino, because it is obvious that things can be very dangerous, in this order of ideas we must see gambling as one of the options that It is very favorable that it be done in other ways, for example a person who is an adult must know well his condition, so gambling, casinos, sports betting, there are activities that they cannot do, as well as taking care of children, Ancions are things that should not be allowed, worse as we are in a society where now freedoms are very different from what they were before because there are many things that go overlooked, but in the specific case of a casino a person like that, what can cause It is because there are many crises, and that is what is dangerous, because it is impossible to say what can happen or how they can do to have a better vision of this in the casinos.

A mentally unstable person does not bring anything good, they will always bring problems to everything, the more they focus on things that they should not handle, it is risky for anyone, first of all for the person who is like that because their control will not be 100%, the first thing is to know. What will become evident is that you can suffer the money to go away very quickly, and it can also happen that things when you try to be with someone accompanied, you will notice that anxiety can be one of the things that attack you, then this is not good, It is not viable and it is not safe, so things are difficult to turn out well, a person like that has to live with many rules, and if, in case he plays in a casino, he must allocate a balance willing to lose and that it be little, Because we don't know what actions you should have when betting because if you bet on in-all the same, all your money could go and that's not the idea, things must be well controlled, well played and all the pros and cons must be observed.
Even the most stable minds are overwhelmed by the bright lights, chip clatter, excitement of a win, or misery of a loss. Gambling is entertainment, not bad. The key is responsible gaming. Today's casinos create betting restrictions and offer problem gambling solutions to promote this. Doesn't gambling represent life's uncertainties? Their lessons include risk assessment, pressured decision-making, and accepting results. If the environment is controlled and the person is psychologically healthy, isn't there a lesson about resilience and coping?

We live in an era where personal freedom is highly valued, but with freedom comes responsibility. Gambling can be dangerous for people with mental health issues. So, what if casinos implemented more robust screening processes? This difficult balance protects vulnerable people while maintaining personal liberty. Your idea of setting aside a little, disposable sum for gambling is awesome. This is about enjoying the game without financial worry. Sports betting, casinos, and other gambling may be fun with self-awareness and control. Shouldn't we regard gambling as a leisure activity that needs responsibility and self-awareness?

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December 30, 2023, 12:58:38 PM
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People generally enter gambling out of curiosity. However, some people who are mentally disturbed by gambling become more addicted to gambling and drugs. People in my area who are in family turmoil and always addicted to drugs are mostly physically visiting offline gambling dens. But it is quite curious that some people fall into the circle of friends and become addicted to gambling. However, if we consider the number of people who are addicted to gambling, gambling addiction is usually more from the family which had a gambler addicted to gambling in the past.
I can't go with your words because many gambling addicts have children who grow up to be good children. I have seen children of many gambling addicts who have become human beings through education and have brought their own lives and families into a bright light. However, there are cases in two-one gambling addicted families that the children have become addicted to gambling by following their parents' gambling addiction.
These children have seen how their parents often mistreat them, and they persist with what their parents do. It is true that children can also become gamblers because they often see their parents gambling, but if their children are raised well by their families, they will not be influenced by anything their parents do that is related to gambling. They can grow well and even change the situation and make their parents realize what they did was wrong. In the end, his parents realized that they had made a fatal mistake and regretted it while trying to cure his gambling addiction. It would be a happy ending for their family.

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December 30, 2023, 01:17:19 PM
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When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
As long the guy in your story is well coordinated in rapporting with others and within the gambling axis aside his unkept dressing code I think he is as good as the other persons. My emotions goes to him that he should realize what he is doing so he doesn't empty his pocket for the sake of gambling and so also, I hope he also utilizes his winning funds as much better to his essential needs because I have come across of mental changed persons who doesn't see values in most valuables around them instead they take them as trash and let it be exposed to whom knows the values.

The only aspect a mental disabled persons should be prohibited is at when the metal disable persons does not acknowledge the potnetials of what the gambling board is and his inabilities to understand the reasons for gambling.
Aside that, I would urge the gambling attendants to help the mental disabled persons moderate and guides them from not gambling uncontrolably because it is assumed they don't know what they are doing at the moments of spending all they have (funds) in gambling untill they are in need to eat finances could resolve for them.

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December 30, 2023, 01:19:41 PM
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People generally enter gambling out of curiosity. However, some people who are mentally disturbed by gambling become more addicted to gambling and drugs. People in my area who are in family turmoil and always addicted to drugs are mostly physically visiting offline gambling dens. But it is quite curious that some people fall into the circle of friends and become addicted to gambling. However, if we consider the number of people who are addicted to gambling, gambling addiction is usually more from the family which had a gambler addicted to gambling in the past.
I can't go with your words because many gambling addicts have children who grow up to be good children. I have seen children of many gambling addicts who have become human beings through education and have brought their own lives and families into a bright light. However, there are cases in two-one gambling addicted families that the children have become addicted to gambling by following their parents' gambling addiction.
These children have seen how their parents often mistreat them, and they persist with what their parents do. It is true that children can also become gamblers because they often see their parents gambling, but if their children are raised well by their families, they will not be influenced by anything their parents do that is related to gambling. They can grow well and even change the situation and make their parents realize what they did was wrong. In the end, his parents realized that they had made a fatal mistake and regretted it while trying to cure his gambling addiction. It would be a happy ending for their family.
Many children learn from the suffering of their parents' gambling addiction and try to become established themselves. There are also many small boys and girls who become addicted to gambling after seeing their parents gambling. Here every parent must participate in gambling to keep their son or daughter safe. A parent should not gamble in front of their children because young children can get addicted to their parents' gambling.

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December 30, 2023, 02:35:22 PM
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Right. Legally and ethically, it depends on where you are. Some places have rules against letting mentally unstable folks gamble. But judging someone's mental state isn't easy. It's a bit of a tightrope between protecting people and letting them make their own choices. If you're worried, the better i think would be not to allow them.
And how are these people going to be identified in a physical casino before their entry? It doesn't make too much sense. However, I understand your point; someone throwing tantrums and breaking down in the middle of a game isn't the best image for the casino and the other attendants.

Online casinos have the advantage (and disadvantage in some cases) of enabling everyone to gamble at any time, from anywhere in the world. I don't see a reason to prohibit users who are suffering from mental illnesses, as long as they're paying and behaving fine.

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