Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble?

[Makus]

However, when the mentally unstable person had no intention of disturbing the people who were also gambling at the casino, the officers also didn't mind. They just assumed he was among the many gamblers who wanted to gamble. The officer allowed the person to gamble, and I think before the officer allowed the person to enter the casino, the officer must have asked his superiors first. Perhaps that's why the officers allowed the person to continue gambling after he finished his activities, especially since all this time, the person only came to gamble and left the casino after he finished gambling. And it wasn't a threat to the casino because they didn't see anything suspicious about the person while he was gambling at the casino. But if the person looks suspicious and has different intentions than before, the officers will interrogate him and take him to another room or even remove him from the casino and will not allow the person to return to the casino.

I don't think you understand the profile of the person we are talking about. You might want to read the op again to be in the same plane with us all. Actually it was stated clearly at the op's that the mentally unstable person could be obviously identified due to the dirty cloths he wore, with his unkept hear and beard. However that description would only mean one thing when ever someone put on that kind of look, it means he is mentally unstable, meaning he goes nut most times or he doesn't think like a normal human being.

[KTChampions]

However, when the mentally unstable person had no intention of disturbing the people who were also gambling at the casino, the officers also didn't mind. They just assumed he was among the many gamblers who wanted to gamble. The officer allowed the person to gamble, and I think before the officer allowed the person to enter the casino, the officer must have asked his superiors first. Perhaps that's why the officers allowed the person to continue gambling after he finished his activities, especially since all this time, the person only came to gamble and left the casino after he finished gambling. And it wasn't a threat to the casino because they didn't see anything suspicious about the person while he was gambling at the casino. But if the person looks suspicious and has different intentions than before, the officers will interrogate him and take him to another room or even remove him from the casino and will not allow the person to return to the casino.

I don't think you understand the profile of the person we are talking about. You might want to read the op again to be in the same plane with us all. Actually it was stated clearly at the op's that the mentally unstable person could be obviously identified due to the dirty cloths he wore, with his unkept hear and beard. However that description would only mean one thing when ever someone put on that kind of look, it means he is mentally unstable, meaning he goes nut most times or he doesn't think like a normal human being.

You are a little naive.
Let's say the staff refused to serve him, and the next day the company received a multimillion-dollar lawsuit for discrimination against their client (who, according to documents, is completely healthy). In many countries such a claim will be satisfied. How do you see this situation now? What seems “obvious” to you, in fact, according to the documents, may not be what it seems to you because either by accident or on purpose someone is trying to mislead you (so that, for example, they can later get money from you in court).

[Huppercase]

I don't think you understand the profile of the person we are talking about. You might want to read the op again to be in the same plane with us all. Actually it was stated clearly at the op's that the mentally unstable person could be obviously identified due to the dirty cloths he wore, with his unkept hear and beard. However that description would only mean one thing when ever someone put on that kind of look, it means he is mentally unstable, meaning he goes nut most times or he doesn't think like a normal human being.

If I'm the attendants at the gambling shop, my guilt will not allow me to attend to the customer because the description says everything about him. But if I'm to follow the rules of the shop, I think I have every right to serve everybody equally because another though that will come to mind my mind is that a right person with a disable brain will come to gambling shop to play, he must have the idea to be that bold come and play, it's even odd for mentally challenged person to what to bets, they will likey beg for money to eat than say they want to bet.

In addition, if he has been playing and doesn't show any sign that he is unstable, even with his cloth and ways of appearance and understanding gambling, I will live him to do what he want to do in the shop. Who knows if that's what make him a happy person. You never can tell, people that we think are mad possesses some strange abilities, don't be shocked if he win one day from gambling.

[tjtonmoy]

It is not necessary that with prevent someone from gambling just because they are mentally ill. Maybe he finds it peace of mind by gambling after everything that he has endured. Every coin has two sides and I don't think it is different here. If that makes him happy, then why not let him do it.
If he is doing something bad and cannot stop it, then it is our responsibility to at least try to talk to him and get him out of this situation. If not then there's nothing wrong here. Let the man enjoy his life.

[Cryptomultiplier]

In the first place, gamblers have been warned about the emotional implications of gambling and the advise is that they gamble when they feel happier or just for the fun rather than gambling to win inorder to pay debts or gambling with borrowed funds.

Now, why should a mentally unstable person be allowed to gamble. I would assume that such persons may have paid a visit to the psychiatrist or counselor on several occasions and perhaps if gambling was a contributing factor to their unstable mind, they would have been advised against it because it could cause a trigger of emotions that is unhealthy to witness.

[Shamm]

It is not necessary that with prevent someone from gambling just because they are mentally ill. Maybe he finds it peace of mind by gambling after everything that he has endured. Every coin has two sides and I don't think it is different here. If that makes him happy, then why not let him do it.
If he is doing something bad and cannot stop it, then it is our responsibility to at least try to talk to him and get him out of this situation. If not then there's nothing wrong here. Let the man enjoy his life.

agree with this  mate every coin has two sides and it's represents the outcome of an gambling play so if we are lucky enough then we got a good outcome which is we will win. But if we are not just too lucky then we can not say that we will win everytime we put our bet. Anyways just like a coin gamblers must be more vigilant and wise cause once  a gambler are not just lucky then they must stop for a while and rest then after a few days or weeks go to gamble again.

[Hirose UK]

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However, when the mentally unstable person had no intention of disturbing the people who were also gambling at the casino, the officers also didn't mind. They just assumed he was among the many gamblers who wanted to gamble. The officer allowed the person to gamble, and I think before the officer allowed the person to enter the casino, the officer must have asked his superiors first. Perhaps that's why the officers allowed the person to continue gambling after he finished his activities, especially since all this time, the person only came to gamble and left the casino after he finished gambling. And it wasn't a threat to the casino because they didn't see anything suspicious about the person while he was gambling at the casino. But if the person looks suspicious and has different intentions than before, the officers will interrogate him and take him to another room or even remove him from the casino and will not allow the person to return to the casino.

People who are mentally unstable will never bother anyone anywhere when they are all friendly with them and someone who is mentally unstable will only commit an act of violence or something else when their emotions escalate.
Moreover, there are only one or two people who experience mental disorders or are mentally unstable due to depression who engage in gambling activities.
All of this is also because from the beginning or for long time he was gambler and it would be very impossible if people like this stayed longer in the casino because they would not feel comfortable in crowded places.
I sure that if he hadn't gambled often at the casino in the first place then it would be impossible for the casino staff to let him in, just as the OP said that the casino staff said that the person was regular customer there who always gambled.
From what happened, it seemed like he had come into the casino just to bet and then left the casino and it seemed like there had never been any problems.
I sure something similar would happen in any casino when there are the same people in the casino environment.

[gunhell16]

I don't think you understand the profile of the person we are talking about. You might want to read the op again to be in the same plane with us all. Actually it was stated clearly at the op's that the mentally unstable person could be obviously identified due to the dirty cloths he wore, with his unkept hear and beard. However that description would only mean one thing when ever someone put on that kind of look, it means he is mentally unstable, meaning he goes nut most times or he doesn't think like a normal human being.

If I'm the attendants at the gambling shop, my guilt will not allow me to attend to the customer because the description says everything about him. But if I'm to follow the rules of the shop, I think I have every right to serve everybody equally because another though that will come to mind my mind is that a right person with a disable brain will come to gambling shop to play, he must have the idea to be that bold come and play, it's even odd for mentally challenged person to what to bets, they will likey beg for money to eat than say they want to bet.

In addition, if he has been playing and doesn't show any sign that he is unstable, even with his cloth and ways of appearance and understanding gambling, I will live him to do what he want to do in the shop. Who knows if that's what make him a happy person. You never can tell, people that we think are mad possesses some strange abilities, don't be shocked if he win one day from gambling.

If I read the statement that the staff said, their regular customers are not being harmed, which means that before, their customers did not dress like that. Maybe their customer just had a big problem, and that's why it happened.

But even so, it is right to treat their customers equally, whether they are rich or poor, whether they look like beggars or not; they should still be treated the same. That is the right way to treat gamblers or clients.

[wakier]

It is not necessary that with prevent someone from gambling just because they are mentally ill. Maybe he finds it peace of mind by gambling after everything that he has endured. Every coin has two sides and I don't think it is different here. If that makes him happy, then why not let him do it.
If he is doing something bad and cannot stop it, then it is our responsibility to at least try to talk to him and get him out of this situation. If not then there's nothing wrong here. Let the man enjoy his life.

Of course we don't have the right to prohibit people who are not very mentally stable from carrying out gambling activities because we don't know what someone is going through and it could be that as you said, that person may need entertainment or calm and maybe that's the only hope. them to keep their mental stability stable and each person must have their own way of dealing with mental stability, if the person might disturb other gamblers of course the shop will kick him out and not allow him to gamble there but because the gambler can still control himself and not disturb him then it is it's not a problem either for other gamblers or the shop.

[slapper]

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However, when the mentally unstable person had no intention of disturbing the people who were also gambling at the casino, the officers also didn't mind. They just assumed he was among the many gamblers who wanted to gamble. The officer allowed the person to gamble, and I think before the officer allowed the person to enter the casino, the officer must have asked his superiors first. Perhaps that's why the officers allowed the person to continue gambling after he finished his activities, especially since all this time, the person only came to gamble and left the casino after he finished gambling. And it wasn't a threat to the casino because they didn't see anything suspicious about the person while he was gambling at the casino. But if the person looks suspicious and has different intentions than before, the officers will interrogate him and take him to another room or even remove him from the casino and will not allow the person to return to the casino.

People who are mentally unstable will never bother anyone anywhere when they are all friendly with them and someone who is mentally unstable will only commit an act of violence or something else when their emotions escalate.
Moreover, there are only one or two people who experience mental disorders or are mentally unstable due to depression who engage in gambling activities.
All of this is also because from the beginning or for long time he was gambler and it would be very impossible if people like this stayed longer in the casino because they would not feel comfortable in crowded places.
I sure that if he hadn't gambled often at the casino in the first place then it would be impossible for the casino staff to let him in, just as the OP said that the casino staff said that the person was regular customer there who always gambled.
From what happened, it seemed like he had come into the casino just to bet and then left the casino and it seemed like there had never been any problems.
I sure something similar would happen in any casino when there are the same people in the casino environment.

Mental instability and disruptive behavior in public spaces like casinos are oversimplified. Mental health varies, and many people attend casinos without issue. We risk a slippery slope by linking mental instability to public misbehavior. We must avoid stereotyping delicate themes and approach them with sensitivity

It's hard to prove a direct link between gambling and mental health. Compulsive gambling can indicate mental health difficulties, but not always. Many people bet for enjoyment without mental illness. Casinos are entertainment venues, not mental health clinics. In different settings like casinos, mental health is complex and shouldn't be reduced to cause-and-effect scenarios

[DubemIfedigbo001]

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When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

You could see he is not mad but probably mentally challenged which can come and go like temporary. There are people who are like that mentally that you only notice them when that moment come to them.

There is a different analysis to this story. He might be gambling before that challenge came to him which can explain why he still retain the ability to gamble and visit the gambling shop. Or he is not mentally challenged in the real sense because someone in such condition may not have the cognition to know how to gamble.

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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

If from what the story is that he walks into a gambling shop and does what others do in peace and leaves, I don't think there is a reason to deny him freedom of association or any other if he is of gambling age. In fact he may not be that challenged mentally not to know what he is doing.

Yeah, you nailed it bro, some people's mental challenges are occasional and when they're not having the crises, they act very normal and behave same. He is even normal enough to make his own money and game with personal funds. With the shop attendants testimony about the man's behavior, its very obvious the man is even more stable than some people that come into the betting houses and constitute various forms of nuisance and we still feel they're normal.

Some people who are drug addicts sometimes looks like  street mad people when they appear in rags and look unkempt. Like you stated, he's of age and exhibits good behavior, so, I don't see anything that should disqualify him from doing what makes him happy.

[harapan]

Is there a law stopping mentally unstable people from gambling ? Is there a law stopping people who are not minors from gambling?
Except there's a law against it in your region for non underage, nobody should stop them from gambling.
It becomes a problem if that person has an individual law against him on gambling. Like people who have an anti gambling law where they're not allowed to gamble in any casino (offline or online) to avoid gambling addiction.
In this case, it's even the addict that will press charges on the casino if they allow him gamble. The casino can press charges if they refuse to gamble for that individual but the person finds a way to fool the casino into allowing him.

[qwertyup23]

People generally enter gambling out of curiosity. However, some people who are mentally disturbed by gambling become more addicted to gambling and drugs. People in my area who are in family turmoil and always addicted to drugs are mostly physically visiting offline gambling dens. But it is quite curious that some people fall into the circle of friends and become addicted to gambling. However, if we consider the number of people who are addicted to gambling, gambling addiction is usually more from the family which had a gambler addicted to gambling in the past.

I humbly submit that any person that has a mental disorder should definitely avoid activities that can potentially worsen their condition.

Like what I have said before, gambling is a game of chance. It requires a person to have the necessary resource and rationalize thinking before they can attempt to do it due to its addictive element. Assuming that a mentally disabled person, in which his mental resources are impaired, attempts to gamble there is a high probability that it can spiral out of control potentially causing a massive landslide to both their finances and condition.

It is not necessary that with prevent someone from gambling just because they are mentally ill. Maybe he finds it peace of mind by gambling after everything that he has endured. Every coin has two sides and I don't think it is different here. If that makes him happy, then why not let him do it.
If he is doing something bad and cannot stop it, then it is our responsibility to at least try to talk to him and get him out of this situation. If not then there's nothing wrong here. Let the man enjoy his life.

I do not think so. A mentally disabled person has their mental faculties impaired due to their condition. They may see something that is abnormal to be normal and even the other way around. Without any guidance or help from a friend or family member, their situation can potentially worsen.

[agustina2]

From the story, I doubt that he's a completely mentally unstable person. It's clear to me that this person is still on his usual self and not even behaving strangely, as the attendant also mentioned. This person also knows how to associate with other gamblers there and not do anything to bring trouble to all people on the casino's premises.

To answer the question now, if mentally unstable are allowed to gamble, of course they are allowed. That's their free will. If they know what they are doing, why should we stop them? And who has the authority to not allow these type of people to gamble? Not unless the casino establishment will implement such rules on their casino.

[piebeyb]

But even so, it is right to treat their customers equally, whether they are rich or poor, whether they look like beggars or not; they should still be treated the same. That is the right way to treat gamblers or clients.

Yes, this is true, anyone who comes to bring money to a gambling house can be called a customer so they no longer have to differentiate between rich and poor because everyone has the same goal of gambling, there is nothing different about the two, after all, it's just mentally unstable, isn't it? will make people feel afraid of him as long as he gambles calmly like other gamblers who gamble calmly everything is fine.

If I was in a gambling house and saw someone who was mentally unstable like that I would invite him to play next to me. There was no problem with that either because he brought money to gamble. Anyone has the right to gamble and the gambling house also has the right to facilitate those who play. gambling there so that there is no favoritism towards others, everything must be special.

[maydna]

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I don't think you understand the profile of the person we are talking about. You might want to read the op again to be in the same plane with us all. Actually it was stated clearly at the op's that the mentally unstable person could be obviously identified due to the dirty cloths he wore, with his unkept hear and beard. However that description would only mean one thing when ever someone put on that kind of look, it means he is mentally unstable, meaning he goes nut most times or he doesn't think like a normal human being.

That does not mean that a person with dirty clothes, unkempt hearing, and a long beard is a mentally unstable person. He may be a more stable person than the people who gambled in the casino. If you look at the people who gamble in the casino, if they lose, they will scream to vent their frustration or when they win, they will also express their joy beyond their limits. Wouldn't that disturb other people who are also enjoying their time gambling?

Meanwhile, the person you think is mentally unstable will not react in any way, whether he wins or loses, and will immediately leave the machine without disturbing other people. If that's the case, who is mentally unstable? Just my 2 cents

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People who are mentally unstable will never bother anyone anywhere when they are all friendly with them and someone who is mentally unstable will only commit an act of violence or something else when their emotions escalate.
Moreover, there are only one or two people who experience mental disorders or are mentally unstable due to depression who engage in gambling activities.
All of this is also because from the beginning or for long time he was gambler and it would be very impossible if people like this stayed longer in the casino because they would not feel comfortable in crowded places.
I sure that if he hadn't gambled often at the casino in the first place then it would be impossible for the casino staff to let him in, just as the OP said that the casino staff said that the person was regular customer there who always gambled.
From what happened, it seemed like he had come into the casino just to bet and then left the casino and it seemed like there had never been any problems.
I sure something similar would happen in any casino when there are the same people in the casino environment.

Of course, the casino staff will not allow the person to gamble at the casino if he has not been gambling at the casino for a long time. He would even be thrown out before he entered the casino because he could potentially disturb other gamblers, so the casino staff would prevent him from entering. But because he had often gambled at the casino for a long time and had no history of disturbing other gamblers who also gambled, the casino staff allowed him to gamble. But I'm sure the casino staff will always keep an eye on him and make sure he really doesn't disturb other gamblers as usual. Perhaps in other casinos, there are people like that, and maybe the response from the casino staff will be different from what that person experienced.

[Richbased]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

From your explanation, nothing makes that man mentally unstable since he's well behaved, earn an income and coordinates himself, so I don't see any mental instability in him regardless of how roughly dressed he is, some persons even mechanics and painters and some other people that does jobs that stains their clothes normally go to gambling offices dressed in awkward manner but that doesn't mean they should be regarded as mentally unstable because the reasons why most of them are dressed roughly to gambling halls is because their jobs don't give them the space to dress properly and come to play gambling except if they ain't working at that particular day then they might decide to dress well.

[Fredomago]

But even so, it is right to treat their customers equally, whether they are rich or poor, whether they look like beggars or not; they should still be treated the same. That is the right way to treat gamblers or clients.

Yes, this is true, anyone who comes to bring money to a gambling house can be called a customer so they no longer have to differentiate between rich and poor because everyone has the same goal of gambling, there is nothing different about the two, after all, it's just mentally unstable, isn't it? will make people feel afraid of him as long as he gambles calmly like other gamblers who gamble calmly everything is fine.

If I was in a gambling house and saw someone who was mentally unstable like that I would invite him to play next to me. There was no problem with that either because he brought money to gamble. Anyone has the right to gamble and the gambling house also has the right to facilitate those who play. gambling there so that there is no favoritism towards others, everything must be special.

Just the same, as long as he is not bringing any harm it's okay seeing him playing, for sure if he's bringing money and there's no problem with how he behaves during his stay, he will not be bothered and he will be allow to keep playing and enjoying, but the time that he show any sign of behavioral issue, that might be the time that the casino will take some actions to make sure that there's no harm that will happen, either to him or any other people inside the casino, the owner also needs to protect their business.

[Accardo]

From the story, I doubt that he's a completely mentally unstable person. It's clear to me that this person is still on his usual self and not even behaving strangely, as the attendant also mentioned. This person also knows how to associate with other gamblers there and not do anything to bring trouble to all people on the casino's premises.

To answer the question now, if mentally unstable are allowed to gamble, of course they are allowed. That's their free will. If they know what they are doing, why should we stop them? And who has the authority to not allow these type of people to gamble? Not unless the casino establishment will implement such rules on their casino.

Discovering who is mentally ill or not, is not an easy task. Lots of gamblers are mentally disordered people, not just the addicts. Although the government are looking at helping addicts out of their problem gambling, which is the primary aim of the health care centers in the developed countries where gambling is legalized. Yet, reaching out to the mentally ill people is quite difficult, as not every body's illness is obvious or noticeable by the crowd. So, in the case of people like the man in Op's narration, they are not mainly mentally unstable, it could be he's not well dressed because of the type of work he does. Being mentally unstable doesn't mean the person needs to look for other people's trouble. Sometimes they only face the trouble of mentally illness when they're alone in their room. It occurs in different ways that's why the government may not be able to execute properly this type of rule on gambling activities.

[junder]

It is not necessary that with prevent someone from gambling just because they are mentally ill. Maybe he finds it peace of mind by gambling after everything that he has endured. Every coin has two sides and I don't think it is different here. If that makes him happy, then why not let him do it.
If he is doing something bad and cannot stop it, then it is our responsibility to at least try to talk to him and get him out of this situation. If not then there's nothing wrong here. Let the man enjoy his life.

Of course we don't have the right to prohibit people who are not very mentally stable from carrying out gambling activities because we don't know what someone is going through and it could be that as you said, that person may need entertainment or calm and maybe that's the only hope. them to keep their mental stability stable and each person must have their own way of dealing with mental stability, if the person might disturb other gamblers of course the shop will kick him out and not allow him to gamble there but because the gambler can still control himself and not disturb him then it is it's not a problem either for other gamblers or the shop.

that makes sense, and indeed the casino company doesn't seem to mind that, as long as he has money and comes to the casino to gamble it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't disturb the comfort of other people around him, because in my opinion what the casino is looking for is profit so who does If you have money then you are allowed to gamble, unless they don't have money and are mentally unhealthy, maybe it will be prohibited by the casino. because as you said, it could be that they gamble because they need entertainment, they want to have fun, and also the way each person handles their mental stability is different.
Someone who has money will be allowed to enter and gamble, but perhaps with the caveat that they don't disturb the comfort of other people in the casino, if they do disturb them they will also be expelled by the casino. and if other people don't feel disturbed they won't mind unless there are lots of complaints from other gamblers about people who are mentally unstable, it's possible that the casino will expel them because it's impossible for the casino to want to lose a lot of customers or visitors because of one person who doesn't make them comfortable gambling.