Should mentally unstable people be allowed to gamble?

[bitvalak]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

In my opinion there is no problem with that, as long as he can still follow the rules in the gambling house.
Maybe mental disorders only occur when he is at home, and we don't know what factors influence it. But when he entered the gambling table, he was like a normal person without anything silly he did.
Moreover, there is no specific prohibition on people being prohibited from entering a gambling house with a shabby appearance, the important thing is that they bring money to enter there.

[masulum]

Maybe mental disorders only occur when he is at home, and we don't know what factors influence it. But when he entered the gambling table, he was like a normal person without anything silly he did.

Is there anyone like that? because, if he doesn't have a stable mentality at home, how in the casino can he be a person who has the mentality of a normal person? I know, sometimes problems come from the family, which makes the person uncomfortable at home.. but if this person gambles, then loses, can he control his emotions because at home he has been known to have a mental disorder? This is something new for me, maybe you can explain it specifically, and do you know anyone who has that kind of mental character IRL?

[Sakanwa]

It's only in few parts of the world that they can see someone who is mentally unstable,and they would allow him walk freely to were people gather without them taming him.However,there are some of them that are harmless,and that is where the question should come,should it be violent ones that should be tamed or all mentally unstable being?This is a question that I think is important when describing mentally unstable people because some of them are still very free,and can enter any Cassino hall without causing any trouble,while some of them are so violent in nature that mere seeing them,you will be scared.My answer is,all the people that are mentally challenged shouldn't be allowed to gamble with sane people because no one can predict their action.

[Suzume]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

In my opinion there is no problem with that, as long as he can still follow the rules in the gambling house.
Maybe mental disorders only occur when he is at home, and we don't know what factors influence it. But when he entered the gambling table, he was like a normal person without anything silly he did.
Moreover, there is no specific prohibition on people being prohibited from entering a gambling house with a shabby appearance, the important thing is that they bring money to enter there.

You re right but I have a question if the person mentality unstable then the person is able to remember the strategy and money management. Yep a person can be unstable because of gambling the person faces losses and the person can't take re pressure and shoked then that can happened. If a person is mentally unstable from previous then it's hard or maybe impossible.

[asyakashi]

if the story you tell is not necessarily mentally affected, because he came and gambled as usual without disturbing the atmosphere of other people, it is possible that he looked tired & dirty and thought he was mentally deficient, we don't know what he was thinking, it's clear he was just a gambling addict

[hedgeh0g]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

In my opinion there is no problem with that, as long as he can still follow the rules in the gambling house.
Maybe mental disorders only occur when he is at home, and we don't know what factors influence it. But when he entered the gambling table, he was like a normal person without anything silly he did.
Moreover, there is no specific prohibition on people being prohibited from entering a gambling house with a shabby appearance, the important thing is that they bring money to enter there.

Perhaps so, but who knows how this player will behave in the future, maybe he didn’t encounter an unfortunate series of events and when he finds out what it is it will completely piss him off, much more than an ordinary person. Of course there are ordinary people who can behave horribly after something like this. So, in general, everyone is individual and gambling can have different effects on everyone who plays. I don’t have a definite answer to this question, because the people who are responsible for the admission or not admission of mentally unstable people bear personal responsibility for this and any bad case will be like a claim from the community against them.

[klidex]

Not sure why we need to differentiate them from us Normal when they are acting the same in gambling
places? I mean they are just there putting their money at risk like what normal does? though we may questioned where
they have got the money yet we have no rights to throw them away like that, and also casino cares nothing about that
as long as they are not bringing troubles in their businesses.

Not only that, if a casino actually dared to do this they may be sued for discrimination, as they did not had any valid reason to exclude a person from their business and they did so solely based on the way a person looks, so depending on the country in which this happened I could see a person like that winning the lawsuit and the casino paying them a lot of money and even a fine for doing something like this, so I doubt any casino will want that kind of trouble coming to them.

It is really just that too much i would say on which there's no way that people could really be able to judge basing up on how they do looks.
Being prohibited just because they do act something weird? We dont know about their life situations or conditions on which as long they arent really giving some harm into other
people then i dont see anything something wrong on which they could really be able to play as long they do have the money that they could be able to make use with.
We are really that free on whatever things that we do tend to engage specially gambling, just like been said that it is really sad that people are way too easy on judging up on things.

We can't judge people based on their appearance because we don't know what their lives are really like. As long as they have money to gamble then the casino can still accept it, because business is still business and they still make a profit no matter how much money their users have. The casino will not feel at a loss just because someone's appearance is shabby, the casino will be harmed precisely by people who cause trouble and harm other gamblers, this of course makes other visitors uncomfortable.
In this case, everyone is free to gamble, whether old, young, women, men except underage children, as long as they have money they are free to do whatever they want to spend their money either on gambling or drinking, and those who are mentally unstable can continue to gamble as long as you have money and don't do any trouble.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

From your description it seems that you are just assuming that the man is mentally unstable by the way he is dressed. As long as somebody has the capabilities to understand what they are doing then it is up to the casino to decide if they wan to provide their service to them. They aren't taking advantage of him by allowing him to use money he earned in the way he chooses.

Mental instability can be subjective. Somebody can be neurodivergent and exhibit strange behavior and yet is still capable of being CEO of a billion dollar company, like Elon Musk for example. If Elon Musk wasn't rich and well dressed some people also would think he was too unstable to be allowed to gamble.

[Pierre 2]

I think ethical issues with gambling are yet to be solved. Mentally unstable doesn't mean a person lacks intelligence to gamble in my opinion. Psychological issues are hard to diagnose even with modern healthcare. Many people can't exactly relate with people with psychological ilnesses or disorders. So in my opinion, people with psychological problems will very likely to not be allowed to gamble in future, probably in 10 years or something. I think humanity is bit too underdeveloped to decide on these issues yet.

[pinggoki]

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Well, it is difficult to accept things like this, it is natural that mentally unstable people should not even go near a casino, because it is obvious that things can be very dangerous, in this order of ideas we must see gambling as one of the options that It is very favorable that it be done in other ways, for example a person who is an adult must know well his condition, so gambling, casinos, sports betting, there are activities that they cannot do, as well as taking care of children, Ancions are things that should not be allowed, worse as we are in a society where now freedoms are very different from what they were before because there are many things that go overlooked, but in the specific case of a casino a person like that, what can cause It is because there are many crises, and that is what is dangerous, because it is impossible to say what can happen or how they can do to have a better vision of this in the casinos.

A mentally unstable person does not bring anything good, they will always bring problems to everything, the more they focus on things that they should not handle, it is risky for anyone, first of all for the person who is like that because their control will not be 100%, the first thing is to know. What will become evident is that you can suffer the money to go away very quickly, and it can also happen that things when you try to be with someone accompanied, you will notice that anxiety can be one of the things that attack you, then this is not good, It is not viable and it is not safe, so things are difficult to turn out well, a person like that has to live with many rules, and if, in case he plays in a casino, he must allocate a balance willing to lose and that it be little, Because we don't know what actions you should have when betting because if you bet on in-all the same, all your money could go and that's not the idea, things must be well controlled, well played and all the pros and cons must be observed.

If it's natural then that means that it's easy to accept, they've got some mental problems that need addressing, what more red flags do we need to stop someone like that from entering the premises that might cause a big disturbance that can affect your other customers? Should that mentally unstable person have a meltdown first and hurt themselves and others for us to do something? I don't think that's right because if there's a way that something can be prevented from happening, there's no way that the prevention isn't done because some deemed it wrong and that we try not to judge other people. You've said it already in your 2nd paragraph, that they don't bring anything good so why still have some hesitation to be in agreement with me that they shouldn't be allowed?

[slapper]

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We can't judge people based on their appearance because we don't know what their lives are really like. As long as they have money to gamble then the casino can still accept it, because business is still business and they still make a profit no matter how much money their users have. The casino will not feel at a loss just because someone's appearance is shabby, the casino will be harmed precisely by people who cause trouble and harm other gamblers, this of course makes other visitors uncomfortable.
In this case, everyone is free to gamble, whether old, young, women, men except underage children, as long as they have money they are free to do whatever they want to spend their money either on gambling or drinking, and those who are mentally unstable can continue to gamble as long as you have money and don't do any trouble.

Casinos welcome anyone with the means to enter. I think this is a commercial decision that reflects society's view of riches and leisure. Casinos unintentionally promote non-discrimination based on appearance or social status in their pursuit of profit. Is inclusion morally responsible? Should casinos worry about their customers' money or mental health? Business ethics and personal freedom blur in this complex subject

I believe everyone is free to gamble has substantial limitations. As long as adults are legal, gambling is a personal choice. However, what about social and psychological effects? Gambling seduces the weak. Businesses must be considered in promoting responsible conduct. Casinos follow the law, but their ethical regulations on who can bet, especially for people with mental health issues, are complex and poorly explored

[jaberwock]

if the story you tell is not necessarily mentally affected, because he came and gambled as usual without disturbing the atmosphere of other people, it is possible that he looked tired & dirty and thought he was mentally deficient, we don't know what he was thinking, it's clear he was just a gambling addict

Good point and it is hard to definitively say who is mentally unstable because if in a group of 5 idiots you talk sense, then they start calling you idiot. Casino have security in place for if someone acts violently.

There is no parameter to determine who is mentally stable and to what extent. And if there is no set parameter then it has to be handled separately for each case. You cannot create a rule for a set of people who are hard to define to start with.

Isn't this the same as asking should criminals be allowed to gamble? Well, how do you determine one is a criminal? There is no way possible and hence the casino has to deal with case by case. If they feel someone is a potential harm to others, they will throw him out.

[bakasabo]

It is bad that some people divide people into categories. Mentally unstable or mentally stable. What next? Use skin color to determine who is allowed to gamble or not? There is no obvious connection between two examples, but the wind blows from that side. Everyone should be allowed to gamble. If mentally unstable person knows the rules, why should not he be allowed to use his money the way he wants. Should casino or dealer treat him differently? No. Should they try to get any kind of advantage due to gamblers mental instability? Absolutely not. Should mentally unstable gambler ask or demand for special attention because of his condition? Also no. When both parties do everything under the rules, there is never a problem.

[Webetcoins]

It's only in few parts of the world that they can see someone who is mentally unstable,and they would allow him walk freely to were people gather without them taming him.However,there are some of them that are harmless,and that is where the question should come,should it be violent ones that should be tamed or all mentally unstable being?This is a question that I think is important when describing mentally unstable people because some of them are still very free,and can enter any Cassino hall without causing any trouble,while some of them are so violent in nature that mere seeing them,you will be scared.My answer is,all the people that are mentally challenged shouldn't be allowed to gamble with sane people because no one can predict their action.

In real-life casinos, I agree they shouldn't be allowed or perhaps there is enough staff to make sure others are not troubled. It also depends on how the person acts because I have known some mentally ill people in past and they were the least harmful people although they were unpredictable and you don't know what they will say next. Being mentally ill or unstable doesn't equate to being dangerous .

As far as online casinos are concerned, there is no risk for anyone apart from the person himself who might lose all his money overnight due to the instability. For them, it's their family's responsibility to make sure they are not gambling too much if at all. Secondly, the casino staff must be well trained to realize if a player is desperate and lock their account in such conditions but of course, these casinos love such players.

[Accardo]

It is bad that some people divide people into categories. Mentally unstable or mentally stable. What next? Use skin color to determine who is allowed to gamble or not? There is no obvious connection between two examples, but the wind blows from that side. Everyone should be allowed to gamble. If mentally unstable person knows the rules, why should not he be allowed to use his money the way he wants. Should casino or dealer treat him differently? No. Should they try to get any kind of advantage due to gamblers mental instability? Absolutely not. Should mentally unstable gambler ask or demand for special attention because of his condition? Also no. When both parties do everything under the rules, there is never a problem.

Discrimination is wrong, especially when the person has done no bad to the society. Being in a bad shape or wearing some dirty clothes doesn't mean a person is mentally disabled. Some of the factors used in the OP in describing a mentally disordered person, isn't enough in determining if a person is mentally ill or not. Whoever visits the casino and destroys a machine or yell at random people, regardless of his diamond chains and watches he's wearing, is mentally ill and will be thrown out of the casino, immediately. Such players don't need to be reminded that the gambling house is not for them, even in their next days of visiting the casino he'd be bounced out. But anybody who respects himself and controls his reactions while gambling, not minding his cheap clothes, is a responsible gambler and should be respected.

[ethereumhunter]

I think ethical issues with gambling are yet to be solved. Mentally unstable doesn't mean a person lacks intelligence to gamble in my opinion. Psychological issues are hard to diagnose even with modern healthcare. Many people can't exactly relate with people with psychological ilnesses or disorders. So in my opinion, people with psychological problems will very likely to not be allowed to gamble in future, probably in 10 years or something. I think humanity is bit too underdeveloped to decide on these issues yet.

If he is mentally unstable, he might make a fuss when he is in the casino, especially when he wins or loses. He might scream to express his feelings, which disturbs the people gambling in the casino. But if we look at what the officer said, the person was not bothering other people and just wanted to gamble. He always came to the casino and gambled. After that, he immediately left the casino. The etiquette may be about him dressing shabbily and sloppy like other people but that's okay because as long as he has money to gamble and doesn't bother other people, he can still enter the casino to gamble. Maybe that's why the officers didn't throw him out of the casino because if he turned out to be disruptive and causing a scene in the casino, the officers wouldn't have let him into the casino in the first place.

[Volimack]

Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

In my opinion there is no problem with that, as long as he can still follow the rules in the gambling house.
Maybe mental disorders only occur when he is at home, and we don't know what factors influence it. But when he entered the gambling table, he was like a normal person without anything silly he did.
Moreover, there is no specific prohibition on people being prohibited from entering a gambling house with a shabby appearance, the important thing is that they bring money to enter there.

You re right but I have a question if the person mentality unstable then the person is able to remember the strategy and money management. Yep a person can be unstable because of gambling the person faces losses and the person can't take re pressure and shoked then that can happened. If a person is mentally unstable from previous then it's hard or maybe impossible.

If the person is already mentally unstable then it will be due to the environment. It is very important to manage money for proper gambling. Managing finances is never easy for a mentally ill person. He will be mentally weak and will not be able to do any work properly. If he is mentally damaged due to gambling then he should be called addicted.

[junder]

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You are right, personal appearance is very important, we as good people are always going to do anything to be able to have a comfortable type for everything, this is affected by what you wear, I have seen that in nightclubs, which are very elegant and have exclusivity high, the people have to get there to see how they behave, they look at them and do their best to try to understand how they can be super personality and how they can function in a caisno, if they see that they are problematic people then no, the appearance says a lot and This can help you decide, but it is something that is very subjective, there are people who are very millionaires and dress in a sensical way, so that is the ultimate accolade that is given to everyone, for me people's apprehension is like the entrance that is It gives people, I can't judge, but it is the first impression, and obviously a person is quite poorly dressed, because it doesn't give much to think well about them.

People who are different can be good people, but there are also many who dress up, they can appear to be very good, in every sense, in appearance and in clothing, but they can be unbalanced and people who are problematic even with a good appearance. , that is something that we should always observe, of course this is something that is noticeable by miles, those who are casino observers have to be very well trained to see and decide which person should be in a casino and which others should not, because It is very easy to talk and say things, but in certain establishments they hire people who at once are capable of deciphering a person very well, they have that gift, I don't know, but it is something that can be seen, in that sense in all cases this is not the case. It goes to a level of security, the security of a casino not only includes that of its games, but also from the moment someone enters until they leave the establishment, in online casinos it is something else.

Yes, because appearance determines how other people judge us, we should wear good clothes, because it is impossible to go to a place where many people wear inappropriate clothes or messy clothes. In my opinion it's like that, it's impossible for them to go to a place with lots of people wearing clothes that are unpleasant to look at because that will disturb the comfort of other people too of course.

It's true what you said when it comes to appearance, of course you have to pay close attention to this. Of course the casino security must be able to see which people are suitable to enter the casino and which are not suitable to enter the casino. In my opinion, the casino must hire people to guard the entrance, and those who are mentally unstable can still gamble if they have money. and wear clothes that are pleasing to other people's eyes.

[sompitonov]

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

I was surprised when I read the post title. There's nothing wrong if someone who is mentally unstable wants to gamble. Gambling is open to everyone, even those facing mental health challenges. As long as they can place bets and participate in the games, they should be able to enjoy gambling like anyone else. It would be unfair to deny them this right just because of their mental health. I appreciate that the attendant in your post was kind to all customers, regardless of their situation. Sadly, in my local area, I've witnessed people treating mentally unstable individuals poorly, refusing to sell to them even if they have money. They seem repulsed when these individuals come near them. I don't understand why mentally unstable people shouldn't be allowed to gamble.

Mentally unstable people can behave quite normally and place bets in gambling, but maybe this is the whole point - there are many more people who lose than those who win. Maybe the owners don’t want to offend these people in this way, because if they lose, it will be very sad. I’m sure it’s much harder to make money if you’re mentally unstable, and you can lose it very quickly. So the owners can see this as a reason for the risk in which, after another loss, such a person will come to them and declare that he did not control himself and provide some kind of certificate from a medical institution. I just suggested some options, but there may be more.

[Solosanz]

if the story you tell is not necessarily mentally affected, because he came and gambled as usual without disturbing the atmosphere of other people, it is possible that he looked tired & dirty and thought he was mentally deficient, we don't know what he was thinking, it's clear he was just a gambling addict

I don't think we should say "he was just a gambling addict", actually the reason why @OP asking about mentality unstable is might result become a gambling addict, if he was a gambling addict, that means he shouldn't stop to gamble lol.

In offline casino (assuming it's the legal one) is quite strict and they don't allow a gambling addict to gamble. But it's hard to distinguish between a high roller and a gambling addict.