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January 12, 2024, 06:25:33 PM
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If you ask me that question they are will be one answer is no mentally unstable people shouldn't be allowed to do gambling. Because it can be very dangerous if a mentally unstable people are on the table of gambling. Just as a mentally unstable person is prevented from everything, if they commit a crime, they are not brought under the law, just as it is better not to let them gamble.

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January 12, 2024, 09:25:50 PM
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Well, it is difficult to accept things like this, it is natural that mentally unstable people should not even go near a casino, because it is obvious that things can be very dangerous, in this order of ideas we must see gambling as one of the options that It is very favorable that it be done in other ways, for example a person who is an adult must know well his condition, so gambling, casinos, sports betting, there are activities that they cannot do, as well as taking care of children, Ancions are things that should not be allowed, worse as we are in a society where now freedoms are very different from what they were before because there are many things that go overlooked, but in the specific case of a casino a person like that, what can cause It is because there are many crises, and that is what is dangerous, because it is impossible to say what can happen or how they can do to have a better vision of this in the casinos.

A mentally unstable person does not bring anything good, they will always bring problems to everything, the more they focus on things that they should not handle, it is risky for anyone, first of all for the person who is like that because their control will not be 100%, the first thing is to know. What will become evident is that you can suffer the money to go away very quickly, and it can also happen that things when you try to be with someone accompanied, you will notice that anxiety can be one of the things that attack you, then this is not good, It is not viable and it is not safe, so things are difficult to turn out well, a person like that has to live with many rules, and if, in case he plays in a casino, he must allocate a balance willing to lose and that it be little, Because we don't know what actions you should have when betting because if you bet on in-all the same, all your money could go and that's not the idea, things must be well controlled, well played and all the pros and cons must be observed.
If it's natural then that means that it's easy to accept, they've got some mental problems that need addressing, what more red flags do we need to stop someone like that from entering the premises that might cause a big disturbance that can affect your other customers? Should that mentally unstable person have a meltdown first and hurt themselves and others for us to do something? I don't think that's right because if there's a way that something can be prevented from happening, there's no way that the prevention isn't done because some deemed it wrong and that we try not to judge other people. You've said it already in your 2nd paragraph, that they don't bring anything good so why still have some hesitation to be in agreement with me that they shouldn't be allowed?
What happens is that I say it because now we have to be very tactful with respect to people who are like that, that is, with a single complaint they make people unstable, or who are in treatment, or who are in some period of time in Try that, because they are going to make it viral, and believe me, at a viral level, speaking badly about a casino or any other entity will cause things to get complicated, because once in a while the perons cross it out like that, but of course, considering things, it is the most healthy right?
  Maybe you see things as they are private entities and the casinos reserve the right of admission is what they can base on not accepting people like that anymore, but it is something complicated, I see it that way, what you say is ideal, but you have to to be or have tact , perhaps I love it from the point of view that is more focused on what a person like that feels, but unfortunately a person like that cannot enter a casino, unless he enters with someone who is attentive to that person. person.

Currently, the ages that are mentally unstable can become a social problem, where governments can give them help, but when they are things of fun, whether they are gay, whether they are discos, where there are people who do not have the slightest respect sometimes by others, because they are treated badly, and this is what I mean, when people treat them badly they become somewhat violent, because it is their nature to react to those slights and everything that has to do with that type of treatment, of course this is what I can see according to what is discussed here, in the country I am in, if a person treats someone badly who is like that, or who has a disability, that is as if the 7 plagues, that is something very bad, they put you in prison, you go to trial, you spend a long time in jail, you have to spend a lot of money paying for lawyers, and since they are on camera , even more so, those are the things that I say that sometimes there are to take care of yourself.

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January 13, 2024, 04:19:08 AM
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Casinos welcome anyone with the means to enter. I think this is a commercial decision that reflects society's view of riches and leisure. Casinos unintentionally promote non-discrimination based on appearance or social status in their pursuit of profit. Is inclusion morally responsible? Should casinos worry about their customers' money or mental health? Business ethics and personal freedom blur in this complex subject

I believe everyone is free to gamble has substantial limitations. As long as adults are legal, gambling is a personal choice. However, what about social and psychological effects? Gambling seduces the weak. Businesses must be considered in promoting responsible conduct. Casinos follow the law, but their ethical regulations on who can bet, especially for people with mental health issues, are complex and poorly explored
Casinos still prioritize their business, they promote casinos to the public without discrimination, especially just because of appearance, the only requirement for gamblers to enter the casino house is that they bring money to bet, then the service will still be prioritized and if they don't bring money, it means that person is not for gambling and other people only then can we conclude that people who come to the casino don't bring money to gamble, so their health is affected, they could be addicted and don't have the money to continue gambling.

Yes, gambling can indeed make mentally weak people more psychologically disturbed if the gambling is unhealthy, I don't think we can blame gambling for causing people to experience mental disorders because it is the gambler's own fault, the casino is only carrying out its duty to promote it to the public with the aim of making a profit and doesn't care about the mental health of its users as long as they can still make a profit.
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January 13, 2024, 07:01:50 AM
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Certain gambling places may be required by law, ethics, and morals to check on the mental health of people who show signs of being unstable. There may not be clear rules on how to refuse service to people who are mentally ill and can't make smart choices. It is important to find a balance between safe gambling and personal freedom. Being proactive and working with the police and mental health workers when needed to offer support or advice for people who want to get help may be more effective.
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January 13, 2024, 03:34:35 PM
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If you ask me that question they are will be one answer is no mentally unstable people shouldn't be allowed to do gambling. Because it can be very dangerous if a mentally unstable people are on the table of gambling. Just as a mentally unstable person is prevented from everything, if they commit a crime, they are not brought under the law, just as it is better not to let them gamble.
On all gambling platforms, there are no restrictions on what mental disorders are suffered by users,
they only warn that gambling will be harmful to those who are not prepared.

And There is no questionnaire about how high a person's mental disorder is who wants to get into gambling.
Those who are mentally unwell and get into gambling will be treated the same as other gamblers.
This is a personal matter, it should be peopled in their environment who should care what someone who is mentally disturbed does.

 
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January 13, 2024, 03:54:26 PM
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
There are no such rules in physical casinos where people can participate on the basis of category. Casinos or gambling sites, of course, must provide opportunities for all categories of people to participate and create an environment, but there is a rule-based requirement of gambling that age-based categories, especially school and college students below 18 years of age, cannot participate. But I have never seen a casino where mentally disordered gamblers participate.  However, I have never seen a casino that has any rules to prevent a mentally disordered or unstable person from participating.
However, most of today's gambling and casino sites are operated online. There is no way to check who or who participates, and in that case, if a mentally unstable person participates. Because there is no opportunity to directly participate in the casino in online casinos, in this case, any gambler or casino site can participate from any part of the world at any time. In this case, the physical condition of any participant is not taken into consideration.

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January 13, 2024, 04:01:51 PM
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Certain gambling places may be required by law, ethics, and morals to check on the mental health of people who show signs of being unstable. There may not be clear rules on how to refuse service to people who are mentally ill and can't make smart choices. It is important to find a balance between safe gambling and personal freedom. Being proactive and working with the police and mental health workers when needed to offer support or advice for people who want to get help may be more effective.
Yes, that is true because there are casinos that require visitors to be physically and mentally healthy when they visit the casino and want to gamble, and the important thing is that they have money to gamble. But in that case, the casino officer knew the person because the person had often gambled at the casino and never made a fuss, so the casino officer allowed him to enter and gamble. Besides that, the person just wants to gamble and visits the casino periodically, where after finishing gambling, he will immediately leave. Perhaps what surprised us was that the person looked like most people, so we saw it as unusual for it to happen in a casino.

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January 13, 2024, 04:02:16 PM
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Most of the time, gamblers will be unstable when they're on a losing streak. To overcome such a situation, gamblers, some of whom used to go for high bets, We can't conclude that someone is unstable just because of their outfit. The person mentioned by OP is a regular gambler, and in physical casinos, they allow people who are mentally stable, it isn't possible. In most of the casinos, we were able to see bars and other entertainment services, which are intended to make people unstable and leave them empty-handed.

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January 13, 2024, 04:20:30 PM
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My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?

I was surprised when I read the post title. There's nothing wrong if someone who is mentally unstable wants to gamble. Gambling is open to everyone, even those facing mental health challenges. As long as they can place bets and participate in the games, they should be able to enjoy gambling like anyone else. It would be unfair to deny them this right just because of their mental health. I appreciate that the attendant in your post was kind to all customers, regardless of their situation. Sadly, in my local area, I've witnessed people treating mentally unstable individuals poorly, refusing to sell to them even if they have money. They seem repulsed when these individuals come near them. I don't understand why mentally unstable people shouldn't be allowed to gamble.
Mentally unstable people can behave quite normally and place bets in gambling, but maybe this is the whole point - there are many more people who lose than those who win. Maybe the owners don’t want to offend these people in this way, because if they lose, it will be very sad. I’m sure it’s much harder to make money if you’re mentally unstable, and you can lose it very quickly. So the owners can see this as a reason for the risk in which, after another loss, such a person will come to them and declare that he did not control himself and provide some kind of certificate from a medical institution. I just suggested some options, but there may be more.

A valid point you made there, Sompitonov, but it's rare to find such things happening in gambling. However, the possibility is there, and casino need to stay aware about such dispute from happening. I've seen a man sue a casino for offering him more free drinks which made him lose out in the process. That he wasn't in his right self-control, the alcohol caused it. In a similar scenario for a mentally unstable player, the casino may not be held responsible for his mistake because the house is not meant to know whether he's mentally ill or not. As people perform differently, including mentally unstable gamblers. I don't think the casino would be penalized for allowing a mentally unstable person gamble, if he turns around to declare he wasn't in his right senses. The fault is on the player not the casino.


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Casinos welcome anyone with the means to enter. I think this is a commercial decision that reflects society's view of riches and leisure. Casinos unintentionally promote non-discrimination based on appearance or social status in their pursuit of profit. Is inclusion morally responsible? Should casinos worry about their customers' money or mental health? Business ethics and personal freedom blur in this complex subject

I believe everyone is free to gamble has substantial limitations. As long as adults are legal, gambling is a personal choice. However, what about social and psychological effects? Gambling seduces the weak. Businesses must be considered in promoting responsible conduct. Casinos follow the law, but their ethical regulations on who can bet, especially for people with mental health issues, are complex and poorly explored
Casinos still prioritize their business, they promote casinos to the public without discrimination, especially just because of appearance, the only requirement for gamblers to enter the casino house is that they bring money to bet, then the service will still be prioritized and if they don't bring money, it means that person is not for gambling and other people only then can we conclude that people who come to the casino don't bring money to gamble, so their health is affected, they could be addicted and don't have the money to continue gambling.

Yes, gambling can indeed make mentally weak people more psychologically disturbed if the gambling is unhealthy, I don't think we can blame gambling for causing people to experience mental disorders because it is the gambler's own fault, the casino is only carrying out its duty to promote it to the public with the aim of making a profit and doesn't care about the mental health of its users as long as they can still make a profit.
I understand your subtle perspective. Casinos are companies, not moral guardians. Their main goal? Profit. They're not demonized automatically. Its about understanding their context. Money is their international language, therefore they welcome everyone. Is it acceptable to put all personal responsibility on them?

Moving on to the individual's role. Its essential, right? I value personal responsibility. Someone enters a casino by choice. Choices have exciting and catastrophic effects. However, blaming the casino for gambling addiction is like blaming a bar for alcoholism. The border of personal responsibility shouldnt be blurred.

However, I believe there's an agreement. Casinos could encourage responsible gambling. Not absolving gamblers of their actions, but fostering an environment where fun and responsibility coexist. The key? Balance. Casinos thrive, people enjoy fun, and gambling's bad side is addressed. Its complicated, but empathy and practicality can coexist.

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January 13, 2024, 04:50:50 PM
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Recently I was around a physical bet shop close to my area and I observed a man who was shabbily dressed walking in the gambling house. I got into the place to observe what his intentions were. He walked straight to the gaming attendant, placed his bets in a highly coordinated manner and quietly walked out of the physical gambling house. From the way he was well organized, you will never know that he was mentally unsound apart from his dirty clothes and unkept hair and beard.

When I inquired from the attendant, she said he was a regular customer and that he usually raised money for gambling through the manual jobs he does around the area. She also told me that he has never misbehaved and acted violently in the gambling house so she was comfortable with him.

My question now is are there any moral, ethical or legal obligation to bar a person from gambling after physically observing that he is mentally unstable?
A man can never be judged by his clothes or outer appearance. Because outer appearance and inner both are not the same. There are many people in gambling who seem normal but they can be bigger gamblers than other normal gamblers. I think that a gambler, regardless of his appearance, nature or dress, if he behaves decently in a particular house and conducts gambling well, then he must be a good gambler. Moreover, any gambler will get permission everywhere if he does not cause any harm to others. In my sense I know that gambler will be allowed to gamble everywhere. The main point is that whatever the gambler does in general, if he does not harm others, he must not be restricted by any law in the world.

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January 13, 2024, 06:11:03 PM
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If you ask me that question they are will be one answer is no mentally unstable people shouldn't be allowed to do gambling. Because it can be very dangerous if a mentally unstable people are on the table of gambling. Just as a mentally unstable person is prevented from everything, if they commit a crime, they are not brought under the law, just as it is better not to let them gamble.
On all gambling platforms, there are no restrictions on what mental disorders are suffered by users,
they only warn that gambling will be harmful to those who are not prepared.

And There is no questionnaire about how high a person's mental disorder is who wants to get into gambling.
Those who are mentally unwell and get into gambling will be treated the same as other gamblers.
This is a personal matter, it should be peopled in their environment who should care what someone who is mentally disturbed does.
Gambling is one engagement that requires mental strength and activeness to fully practice it and that's why it'll definitely be a bad idea to allow someone who's not mentally stable to engage in gambling as it'll definitely ruin the person.
The truth is that there's no already established process in gambling companies that tests people's mental sanity before allowing them to gamble and that's why it's absolutely understandable that a lot of mentally unstable persons still engage in gambling but that's actually not the best way forward ahd the earlier those provisions are made the better for humanity.

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January 13, 2024, 07:14:56 PM
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Most of the time, gamblers will be unstable when they're on a losing streak. To overcome such a situation, gamblers, some of whom used to go for high bets, We can't conclude that someone is unstable just because of their outfit. The person mentioned by OP is a regular gambler, and in physical casinos, they allow people who are mentally stable, it isn't possible. In most of the casinos, we were able to see bars and other entertainment services, which are intended to make people unstable and leave them empty-handed.
Those with the issue of addiction are the once that are always unstable because they are always some kind of a metal state. When you keep having expectations and your not meeting them then it will definitely affect anyone that is addicted and will keep doing revenge gambling until they win. I think their people that are looking very poor not because of anything but their greed. I don't think gambling has any thing to mental challenges. The only thing I see gambling coming with is frustrating, anxiety and depression and if you look at it they are all part of the mental challenges. And everything that as to money comes with there own mental challenges.

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January 13, 2024, 07:48:01 PM
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Yes, that is true because there are casinos that require visitors to be physically and mentally healthy when they visit the casino and want to gamble, and the important thing is that they have money to gamble. But in that case, the casino officer knew the person because the person had often gambled at the casino and never made a fuss, so the casino officer allowed him to enter and gamble. Besides that, the person just wants to gamble and visits the casino periodically, where after finishing gambling, he will immediately leave. Perhaps what surprised us was that the person looked like most people, so we saw it as unusual for it to happen in a casino.


The gambler who ready to take a risk in the gambling site should play the game with full confidence and physical control over the game.Some people loss their mental control by losing the huge money in the gambling site.It’s essential to take the rest after the gambling loss and most special of the continuous losses in the gambling site.The vacation after the loss in the gambling site will be the better option,many experienced gamblers do this for the mindset of the gamblers to get satisfied.The loss in the gambling sites will be loss,even we can able to recover the same in the future days.We should survive in the gambling site.
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January 13, 2024, 08:05:52 PM
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And who is to say if a person is fit to gamble or not? You? The casino manager? Are they going to hire a psychiatrist to decide? How are they going to make someone undergo examination? There's no law saying they have to agree to it (at least in the countries that I know). IMO trying to ban such people is pointless because they'll go to your competition and eventually to an online casino.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.
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And who is to say if a person is fit to gamble or not? You? The casino manager? Are they going to hire a psychiatrist to decide? How are they going to make someone undergo examination? There's no law saying they have to agree to it (at least in the countries that I know). IMO trying to ban such people is pointless because they'll go to your competition and eventually to an online casino.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.


I believe it would be possible. In developed countries there are complete databases which hold information on the people who have gone through mental institutions, for example. It would be matter for those basa bases to the shared with the staff of the casino and uploading the information in real time. Though, there would be still serious problems in that hypothetical system: people may feel their privacy and their rights are being violated by the government and the casino and also, that system would not stop someone from engaging with gambling in other unregulated markets... They could still gamble or bet with their friends or family, or even with strangers who could meet in secret places to bet on fights or races.

It would not take the casinos to hire extra staff to evaluate anyone,.to be honest, the government could provide all what is needed, though, I would continue to believe it would not be effective.

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January 14, 2024, 02:38:04 PM
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The gambler who ready to take a risk in the gambling site should play the game with full confidence and physical control over the game.Some people loss their mental control by losing the huge money in the gambling site.It’s essential to take the rest after the gambling loss and most special of the continuous losses in the gambling site.The vacation after the loss in the gambling site will be the better option,many experienced gamblers do this for the mindset of the gamblers to get satisfied.The loss in the gambling sites will be loss,even we can able to recover the same in the future days.We should survive in the gambling site.
But if gamblers have a sense of self-confidence and physical control that makes them gamble for a long time, it can make them lose confidence and self-control because gambling for a long time can trigger them to lose even more. When we have lost, especially if it is a losing streak, we should realize that perhaps we cannot win that day, and we should immediately stop the gambling game to rest for a few days to reduce the tension. Losing from gambling is indeed painful, but if we lose all the money in one day, it will hurt even more, so we have to really take care of ourselves and not lose too much. And perhaps that's what people in shabby clothes who gamble in casinos do, who can immediately stop gambling when they have enough time to gamble. Perhaps at that time, he could think rationally so he could immediately stop himself from gambling.

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January 14, 2024, 03:02:48 PM
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that's right, especially if you just glance at the way they dress. of course it feels unethical. as long as he brings money and does not disturb other players I think it's okay to play gambling at the casino. especially if you see someone's character is different from one another.

Ideally, if the person is mentally disordered he or she should not go to casino and should not gamble, as he is not in the right frame of mind and therefore he can lose money when he is not fit to use his brain. If he insists on gambling, then it becomes the responsibility of his near and dear ones to stop him from gambling and the best way to do so is to restrict him from gaining access to the money. I assume that since he is a mentally disorder person, therefore we may not be in a position to do any job and earn money.

(If he is earning money through any means, it would mean that he is not a mentally retarded person).

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January 14, 2024, 08:26:32 PM
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And who is to say if a person is fit to gamble or not? You? The casino manager? Are they going to hire a psychiatrist to decide? How are they going to make someone undergo examination? There's no law saying they have to agree to it (at least in the countries that I know). IMO trying to ban such people is pointless because they'll go to your competition and eventually to an online casino.
The law is fain regarding this. If a person is deemed unfit by the court, they're going to be banned, but for that either the family has to file a motion, or he has to get arrested by the police for unlawful behavior, so if he's calm, the casino would have to provoke him somehow to get him to become violent.


I believe it would be possible. In developed countries there are complete databases which hold information on the people who have gone through mental institutions, for example. It would be matter for those basa bases to the shared with the staff of the casino and uploading the information in real time. Though, there would be still serious problems in that hypothetical system: people may feel their privacy and their rights are being violated by the government and the casino and also, that system would not stop someone from engaging with gambling in other unregulated markets... They could still gamble or bet with their friends or family, or even with strangers who could meet in secret places to bet on fights or races.

It would not take the casinos to hire extra staff to evaluate anyone,.to be honest, the government could provide all what is needed, though, I would continue to believe it would not be effective.


A person who was released from a mental institution should be healthy and fit to interact with the society, which also includes gambling. In many countries going through person's medical records is not allowed and you can't ban them from entering a casino or something because they used to be incarcerated, held in a mental institution, or are currently being treated.
If they started having access to a medical database, what's stopping them from banning you from the casino because you have HIV, or something. We'd come to a point where stores would put up signs that they don't serve people who once had a mental breakdown, or epilepsy...

It's not that people MAY feel their rights are being violated. If that happens, they are being violated, that's a fact, which makes it impossible to instate in freedom oriented countries. Maybe China will one day do something like that, they're known for crazy ideas and privacy means nothing there.
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January 14, 2024, 08:33:11 PM
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that's right, especially if you just glance at the way they dress. of course it feels unethical. as long as he brings money and does not disturb other players I think it's okay to play gambling at the casino. especially if you see someone's character is different from one another.

Ideally, if the person is mentally disordered he or she should not go to casino and should not gamble, as he is not in the right frame of mind and therefore he can lose money when he is not fit to use his brain. If he insists on gambling, then it becomes the responsibility of his near and dear ones to stop him from gambling and the best way to do so is to restrict him from gaining access to the money. I assume that since he is a mentally disorder person, therefore we may not be in a position to do any job and earn money.

(If he is earning money through any means, it would mean that he is not a mentally retarded person).
For those platforms or physical places, then how they would be able to determine out on which a certain person does have that kind of defect on the time that they would enter on such vicinity?

There's no way that you could be able to spot it out as a security personnel but it would be that depending on the gestures or actions made but if there's nothing wrong on how someone do
really be having then i dont see that prohibitions would be strictly be applied even into those kind of hunches about behavior problems.
Anyone is really to gamble and it is really just that right that they would really be able to play as long they do have the money that they could make use of. When it comes to unstable
kind of condition of someone then it would really be just that possible that they would be stopped or get kicked out if they are really that able to affect someone on the venue
or simply having those kind of actions on which its not really that something right to do so.

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