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December 25, 2023, 08:35:28 PM
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I think most of them have some sort of security inside because they need someone to escort people who refuse to leave. They also have money inside, pretty much like a bank, or a currency exchange, so there have to be cameras and a hired security contractor that awaits their call. Many gambling joint owners have firearms, so the places are safe.

If you're asking about people leaving with money, unfortunately not much can be done about that apart from giving them advice to call someone and make sure they don't leave drunk and alone.
In most first world countries you won't get robbed right outside the bet shop, so whether they have security or not will not help you in any way. It's the same if you choose to go to a bar with the money and show it to someone. You can be sure they'll be waiting for you to leave drunk and rob you and security won't matter.

Bottom line, it's up to you to protect yourself.

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December 26, 2023, 07:36:33 AM
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Are local betting shops still operating with large amounts of cash these days? As far as I know, those local bet shops currently do have POS machines, and they also have business accounts through which they allow their customers to make deposits and place their bets.
 
Ordinarily, it does not make sense for someone to walk up to a local bet shop where you know you are not just the only one there and everyone is after money, and you are in there to bet with someone's dream money.
 
Unless the shop has upgraded to a mega bet shop, if not, I don't see the need for local security to be employed in a bet shop; it's just a personal decision anyway. As the shop doesn't promote violence and there are always security cameras everywhere, the only thing that I see in a local bet shop is arguments, but robbing others of their money, which I have not noticed in any of those shops within my locality.

I believe there are few of them that still operate with cash especially in the rural areas but nevertheless, the presence of security personnel in the betting shops will reduce the fun in my opinion. Although, I have seen cases of betting shops been burgled and their materials such as television sets, laptops and satellites receivers stolen but not during the service hours, it happened after the business closure.

In my opinion, the best thing to do as a betting shop owner is to collaborate with security agents and call for their service when perceiving any security threat during the service hour and employ a guard to watch over the place during the night. After all, most of this betting shops in the town are located in a very busy and public areas where there's no much threat and security stations are very close by for assistance when needed.

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December 26, 2023, 07:42:53 AM
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Since gambling is prohibited in my country, I don't know what local bet shops are like, but I'm sure they are like shops in general. If the condition of local betting shops is like what you said, I agree with you that local betting shops should have security officers who protect the shop from criminals. Moreover, local betting shops have cash and people who play there can cause trouble, and security officers should be hired there.

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December 26, 2023, 07:55:54 AM
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In local betting shops, on the other hand, only people from around there or it could be said that it is very rare for foreigners from far away places to come to bet and of course each other may already know each other, besides, I sure that the betting shop owner is not ordinary people.
In the area where I live, all the local betting shop owners or keepers are people who have quite tough background or let say they are members of gangsters or even members of certain mafia groups.
There are number of people who always protect such places in the back and of course security is always there but it is not very visible because most of them dress and act like normal visitors.
It just that maybe the betting shop where you live will be different from other betting shops, but I sure security will always be there to maintain security and prevent any riots between visitors that could occur.
But in this current era, betting shops are very empty of visitors because most gamblers have switched to online gambling sites, like where I live there are no longer many gamblers who come to local betting shops.

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December 26, 2023, 08:06:53 AM
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For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

Local bet shops like this can be reported to their license issuer or local authorities for not securing their premises, It is part of their compliance to secure their bettors and make them feel they are secure and it's not conducive to doing business or betting to this kind of shop and whoever running to this kind of betting shop has no business sense, they make profit from their bettings so if people do not feel secure in their premises no money will come in so if you're a good businessman you will invest in security, securing your money securing your client and business.
Security is everything when it comes to running a business you can't have a business if you cannot invest in security.


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December 26, 2023, 08:23:49 AM
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 You make a fine point Op. And I also think it is necessary for security personnels to be employed in bet shops to maintain a semblance. Gambling halls are supposed to have these guys stationed at strategic points to prevent a situation where an individual who wins a huge amount of money can feel safe to go out with his winninga instead of being afraid he might get harassed by the other gamblers.
There have been situationa where a gambler has lost a lot and would want to start a fight simply because he's frustrated or he's prickly, these guys can stop such because a gambling area is not really supposed to have much noise and rukus as one would need a lot of concentration to be able to make their selections.

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December 26, 2023, 08:37:11 AM
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Some months ago, I was withdrawing a "large" amount of money in a betshop and practically 50 meters away they had just carried out a robbery complete a guy stabbed....(not related to gambling...)
but
hardly people use or withdraw a "monthly salary" in a single bet... of course there is always the risk of some aggression but it is really rare (I'm talking at least here in Italy)...
it's full of betting centers, a minimum of precautions are enough (withdrawals or deposits online) and you practically no longer use cash and no one will see anything

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December 26, 2023, 08:51:35 AM
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For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.
For a betting shop to be conducive for everyone there most be a need to employ security that would make everyone stick to the rules and regulations that govorn the betting shop and also to make sure all the money of the betting shop and that of the gamblers are well protected to avoid snatching of money because there are some persons that preferred going to the betting shop instead of online and not because they cannot gamble online but because they derive joy whenever they go to the gambling shop and meeting so many persons with different objective and perception on gambling so perhaps security of those people and there money should be the major priority of the gambling shop because if there is enough security people tend to patronize you the more.

Although one of the things I discovered from those local betting shops is that there daily income are so small that they cannot afford to employ a security personnel, so for me I think employing a security personnel is totally dependent on the growth of the gambling shop because that is the determining factor that show you if there is need to hire a security personnel or not.

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December 26, 2023, 08:56:08 AM
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For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.
Common man it's gambling we are talking about, so yes there should be security, only the frustration of someone losing his money in a local bet shop can and have made the person go a-wall and started beating the workers for them to refund him that the money is not his and he needed to pay it back and the police was immediately called to come quench the tensed atmosphere because gambling can someone go crazy. If am to play at the local bet shops, I will for one feel safe when I know there are securities there that can resolve whatever issue that might come up.

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For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

I don't know why in your place there's lack of security personnel that ensure safety of their clients but they really need to install some security forces so that they can avoid to get any security issue on their businesses also to the clients usually go there.

If I heard that happening on my local bet shops I will not go there since I will not compromised my safety just to bet and have fun in short while.

Will surely find another bet shop that I think safe since its better be safe than being sorry and get a serious problem dealing with criminals waiting for their prey.

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December 26, 2023, 09:20:07 AM
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There must be security in every casino that will always monitor the casino and its visitors. The casino will ensure that there is no commotion in its casino and will continue to provide a sense of security to all its customers. But when it comes to casinos, it might be a different story because it is the gambler's responsibility and they must be able to take good care of themselves during the trip from home to the casino and also look after their money. For local betting shops, there must also be securities who will look after the shop, although we certainly wouldn't think that some people seen relaxing are members of the local betting shop securities.

In every business, security members will guard the place where it operates because no one knows if an attack will occur there. Business owners must also have prepared security members at their place of business because they want to avoid bad things happening. Maybe your place is famous for being a safe place, so there are no security guards around the betting shop, or there are security members around the betting shop, but you can't recognize them.

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December 26, 2023, 09:34:22 AM
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For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.

I have never seen security in a betting shop so far, only in the bigger casinos there are some security guards. From a friend I heard that if you cash out larger amounts at our home casino, they will have a security guard walk with you to the parking lot to make sure you leave savely in your car. Not sure if it's really necessary to have security guards in the betting shops, because I feel that there is much less profits being made compared to the large casinos. At least in my country the betting shops are usually smaller and there is only one to two employees working there. Employing now a thrid person only for security would cost a lot of money. Also I am not sure if there where a lot of thefts happening of people winning money. In my country there is also a bad stigma for some betting shop chains, because they don't have a lot of visitors and make a lot of money. There are rumours that criminal clans use these shops to launder their money. Which would also mean that there is some form of hidden security to protect their business. I think I never read about someone being robbed outside of the betting shop, or the whole betting shop being cleared out by criminals. Personally I would always prefer to bet larger amounts online, and if I ever win big I would also prefer the money to be transferred digtially then getting it cash for it.
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December 26, 2023, 09:39:59 AM
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For those using local bet locations, the first thing you should watch out for is how tight the security of the casino is, if it's not good I advice to avoid using such place because bad people can target gamblers going in and out of the place, I personally don't like using local casino locations, if online casinos when happened I will never become a gambler today.

In my area, most local casinos don't use security, they believe that everyone comes with good mind to place bet, not to steal money, and even the locations are not well built, as money flows into the account of the casino owner I expect them to spend money on their gambling outlets, you will see some locations and by the looks of it you won't feel like gambling at the place.

Online gambling has less disadvantages compare to located casinos, online gambling keeps you hidden and people around you won't know you are into gambling, when you win no one will also know, unlike those outlets where mobsters and hooligans will be demanding for a share.

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December 26, 2023, 09:53:06 AM
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There should really be a security in every local betting shop if we are talking about the security of the players and the owner's business in general. Although having security is really rare and almost close to none, most especially in third world countries. Perhaps this is because they are cutting costs because hiring a security will add cost to manpower budget allotment. So they would rather just install CCTVs instead of adding a guy to secure the perimeter. But it should really be a must, especially because gambling shops cater different personalities. Some are aggressive, some are cheaters, and some are boastful that can lead to argument and fight.
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December 26, 2023, 10:29:08 AM
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For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.
I mean if it was a money issue, I don't think people who have huge sums would ever go to a local casino. They'd probably go find some big places since there's a higher chance they'd be able to cater to him instead of local ones since local is pretty synonymous to small, which I highly doubt can accommodate the bets of someone with big pockets.

Now as for security of local places, well they probably understand that it's not really cost effective since they cater to a smaller audience. As for people who act strange and mentally unstable, that's just part of things. As for small fights, they can probably call the local police force or something. Well tbf they probably have some small time guard though which is more than enough in most cases.

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December 26, 2023, 06:18:42 PM
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Not only for people who behave strangely or can cause fights or cheat in the game but there can be robberies as well pretty easily if there are no securities at all. You can't feel safe sitting at a table with chips worth thousands of dollars because anyone with a weapon can walk in and take everything away in no time because there is no security to protect the shop or the gamblers. So, I believe it's essential for such establishments to have security available at all times when the shop is open for customers.

I would never feel safe gambling in such a location where it's easy for anyone to enter and exit, there are no securities or checks or anything, especially if I want to spend money that is quite high and isn't just $100 or something. People should choose safer places for their gambling activities, for sure.

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December 26, 2023, 07:38:28 PM
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For those persons who prefer gambling in local bet shops instead of gambling online. I know that most times some persons carry huge sums of money to come to gamble and I understand that if it was a local casino there would be securities. Now, in the local bet shop, why are there no securities? I know a local bet shop close to where I reside. There are no securities there and there are people who act strange and mentally unstable there. They could cause fights, noise, and cheat. So for other persons to feel safe betting there I think securities should be employed there.
what I know is that every physical casino actually has security which is usually provided to address customer concerns as you said and not only in large casinos but in small casinos they usually have security to guard against unwanted things.
but I wonder why the casino near your house doesn't provide security? or maybe you dont know if security is placed behind you?
usually security is not always stationed at the front of casino but there is one in the casino or at the back and will come when needed. It is very unlikely that a casino does not have security and it really dangerous in the long term because a crime could occur in casino.

casinos are always filled with people who have money and if the casino does not provide security of course that will be a big question because if a crime occurs who will secure the situation? meanwhile, this must be really paid attention to because otherwise it will endanger the future of the casino.q

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December 26, 2023, 07:43:45 PM
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I think proper security cameras and human securities are necessary in places where gambling is happening. Or else, many gamblers may start disputes over and over. First you should be able to handle those annoying people, and second you should be able to prove them there is not cheating involved. Especially drunk gamblers may give headaches to local owner: "I did not do that but you take my money away" etc. type of baseless claims. And as others also pointed out, its much better to avoid using cash but focusing on pos machines so everything is legit recorded.
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December 26, 2023, 07:53:59 PM
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There should really be a security in every local betting shop if we are talking about the security of the players and the owner's business in general. Although having security is really rare and almost close to none, most especially in third world countries. Perhaps this is because they are cutting costs because hiring a security will add cost to manpower budget allotment. So they would rather just install CCTVs instead of adding a guy to secure the perimeter. But it should really be a must, especially because gambling shops cater different personalities. Some are aggressive, some are cheaters, and some are boastful that can lead to argument and fight.
Don't you think bringing securities in a local gambling shop will be more expenses on the shop owners. And if there are more expenses to run on the shop there might be increase in cost of rendering services there. What i mean in essence is that, since there are securities, and they have to pay them weekly or monthly. They may be selective in the type of people who come there to gamble. Like those who do not have enough to spend on gambling will not be allowed to enter. If we see in the popular casinos, if you do not look rich or expenses the securities will be watching you throughout your stay in there. And there are restrictions to the sections you can go in that casino.

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