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December 27, 2023, 08:37:27 PM
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i would find it suspicious if people will give them money in public actually. so it's best if they equally divide what's in the tip box.

it's also the guards that people ask sometimes when they need directions on where to find the store. it's not easy guarding a mall with hundreds of people inside who could just open some stuff that will be deemed unsaleable after it. yes, they also deserve to receive tips, maybe if they do have a tip box mall goers will put some into their box.









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December 27, 2023, 10:26:18 PM
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Giving tips is a good practice, of course. However, there are still factors that we need to consider before doing so. For example, are their employees or the management they are working under allowing them to accept tips? We have to remember that some management has a policy regarding their employees accepting any kind of compensation from clients or customers outside their actual bills. We need to be mindful about this as instead of providing help we might even cause them to have problems in their work. Another factor is if it is financially okay for us, what I mean by this is if our financial capacity or status allows us to do so then go ahead. However, we should still keep in mind that giving tips is not mandatory and should just be done when you have the means to do so.

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December 27, 2023, 11:05:39 PM
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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.

Actually, it's just optional to the people who give tips to the security only people who appreciate those giving security to the customer, if you have some why not give there's nothing wrong if you appreciate their work, but not only you because even their managers, heads, the supervisor will notice if they are giving their best could be a promotion, additional salary increase, incentives, etc. Those are based on their performance and how they care about their job. I don't think so if this topic related on it this board or off-topic?.

I agree with what you said, there is nothing wrong if you give them a tip if they have helped you but if you give a tip for no reason it doesn't look good. Yah, it's our choice to give a tip but we should put it in the right place. But for me it's not ideal that you always tip the guards, it's okay to thank them if they helped you, they will appreciate your thank you because they saw that you appreciated the help they did for you.

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December 27, 2023, 11:23:43 PM
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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.


What is called security, wherever they are, they must carry out their duties as well as possible. Be it in malls, restaurants, offices, or in residential areas. Even though they have the risk of being exposed to crime, that is their duty.

But in my personal opinion, the security guards who work in malls, perhaps the biggest challenge is not the thieves or criminals who want to rob the entire mall. However, regarding service, you must remain a friendly and smiling person even when you are tired. Because currently it's a matter of security, CCTV is on every corner. So criminals will not dare to rob at the mall.

And giving tips to security guards is indeed a good thing and there is nothing wrong with it. Because they have indeed provided their service well.
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December 27, 2023, 11:31:52 PM
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I am a giver and I really love to see when people give, I am not against the idea of tipping as well but you see all those lovely smiles and kind words they say? They are paid for it. Because you cannot continue frowning your face at customers. If you do so, you’ll make them uncomfortable and they may not feel pleased to come back. So I do believe it is part of their job and this is known as “customer service”. Nonetheless, I think it is still okay to tip them. I generally like tipping people who are polite, respectful, caring, etc. For instance you nearly fell and the person rushes to help you and starts asking if you’re okay. That’s a personality outside the job, that deserves something.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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December 27, 2023, 11:43:03 PM
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Security guards are the same as us, just ordinary people who find thieves carrying firearms. while he was only equipped with a club. Yes, he was also running around chaotically... because if he fought him he would die silly. Because he knows, he is not a police officer equipped with a firearm and bulletproof vest. so that if he was shot, he would die on the spot because the bullet went straight through his body. Their duties are indeed very difficult, but only a few security guards actually work according to their responsibilities, oaths and promises.

However, because currently many robbers or thieves use firearms, in my opinion it is appropriate that security guards should be given similar equipment, namely firearms and bulletproof vests. Because they were also confused about having to fight a robber who was carrying a gun, the security guard hit the robber with a bat, before the security guard hit him with a bat... but the bullet had already strayed into his body.
And related to giving money, if you are good enough then just give them according to your ability...

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December 27, 2023, 11:58:42 PM
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That’s your opinion and it’s well received. Tipping is purely optional and should never be mandated. If you feel the service received is good and worthy of appreciation, then by all means, go ahead and tip. Giving tips is an optional gesture of being thankful from the customer for an excellent service provided.

I’d like to think that security being a priority in any organization or business, would pay their security staff a decent amount. Asides that, no employee should have to rely on tips to augment what they get paid.
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these days there is no such thing as security in supermarkets..
there are customer-recognition CCTV that follow customers around a store and can see people add products to a shopping cart. and the self checkouts then also communicate with the systems.. ensuring all items are offloaded from the cart, scanned and then counted into bags.. and then you have the "store greeter" who then interrogates peoples shopping carts and their receipts to see if the number of items match how many are listed on a receipt

its not the job of the public to side-subsidise the greeter that check peoples carts. its the businesses job to pay these greeter a fair wage upfront.

customers should not need to pay for goods and then pay a tip to the greeter who interrogates their shopping cart, preventing the customer from leaving the supermarket until the greeter is happily compensated

the way supermarkets operate is by using greeters to do security checks means they dont have to pay proper security rated pay. and instead pay a elderly near pension age greeter the minimum wage and class them as just customer service rather then security.

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That’s your opinion and it’s well received. Tipping is purely optional and should never be mandated. If you feel the service received is good and worthy of appreciation, then by all means, go ahead and tip. Giving tips is an optional gesture of being thankful from the customer for an excellent service provided.

I’d like to think that security being a priority in any organization or business, would pay their security staff a decent amount. Asides that, no employee should have to rely on tips to augment what they get paid.
That's true because jobs have been prepared with various salary specifications before they are accepted and tipping them is not an obligation for visitors. I have heard of workers being given tips by visitors and when they are found out it will result in them being called in to be questioned about the tips they received, do we want to see workers getting into trouble accepting tips from people even though the tips given are sincere?

The culture of tipping others is sometimes inappropriate in some areas because they are discouraged from accepting tips by the companies they work for. Although there are also workers who ignore this rule and accept tips if given by visitors and it goes back to the principle of each person giving it.

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What do you think, OP? Are security guards similar to waiters, hairdressers, or couriers? Did you know that these people occupy different places in the service hierarchy? The fact that you like the service in the store is not at all the same as what the security guards do. Will you tip a fireman, a policeman, and finally a military man who fights and protects your country?
Doesn't this seem too humiliating for such professions? Are you ready to give them that little thing that you don’t need?

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They're actually doing their jobs. I don't think it's an obligation to tip security workers, neither does it make you a better person. If you want to do it, do it, if you don't want to then don't.
The only thing a customer owes a security guard is respect. Just treat them like humans that they are, as equals and part of the ways we can treat them with respect is by advocating that their employers treat them with respect and also pay them fairly.

Tipping a security guard is not mandatory, a kind gesture but not mandatory and it in no way make you a better person.
By your logic we should be tipping security personnels as well. The project lives and properties and maintain order. But it's their job. All we have to do is respect them and let them do their jobs.

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December 28, 2023, 01:34:53 PM
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I don't actually like the idea of tipping since this could be the start of discrimination on some places since those workers looking after for tips might not give a proper service to those people who they think will not give them a tip. Then treat good those rich looking costumer since they think to get more better top from them.

That's why its better than nothing so that workers could treat anyone the same. I understand that they do a lot of efforts but its up to their management on how they threat their workers since if they give the right salary and benefits to them for sure they will not ask for more and create some pressure in their work place.

Also for OP we know how security guards work their assigned jobs so maybe they should forget about that so they will not get stressed and just do their job so that they can perform well to their job and their boss will be more happier to the performance they are showing.

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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.


    I'm so certain that a huge percentage of us fail in this aspect of giving tips to securities. I don't know why. It isn't some kind of abomination whatsoever. For me I'd say it's just a little motivation for them to keep doing well at what they do. We need to at least put ourselves in some people's shoes before knowing exactly where it pinches.
   Some of us we'd walk into a mall, the security may put up a welcoming smile and we'd just reply their gesture with a straight face and the same way we'd walk out. Some of these guys are earning way below what will even be befitting enough for themselves and their families, some would even go as far as begging for these tips while some will stay hoping that we'd be touched in us to tip them. There's no harm in it. Yes, we may not have enough, but considering the efforts and dedication they're putting to work and just because of the littlest love we have in us, we just ought to try to practice it. We're not their employees, we've got our own headache but the little love and care will be highly appreciated by these people and definitely can pave ways for blessings too. No one knows.
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   I'm so certain that a huge percentage of us fail in this aspect of giving tips to securities. I don't know why. It isn't some kind of abomination whatsoever. For me I'd say it's just a little motivation for them to keep doing well at what they do. We need to at least put ourselves in some people's shoes before knowing exactly where it pinches.
   Some of us we'd walk into a mall, the security may put up a welcoming smile and we'd just reply their gesture with a straight face and the same way we'd walk out. Some of these guys are earning way below what will even be befitting enough for themselves and their families, some would even go as far as begging for these tips while some will stay hoping that we'd be touched in us to tip them. There's no harm in it. Yes, we may not have enough, but considering the efforts and dedication they're putting to work and just because of the littlest love we have in us, we just ought to try to practice it. We're not their employees, we've got our own headache but the little love and care will be highly appreciated by these people and definitely can pave ways for blessings too. No one knows.

i believe it is not the usual norm that we give tips to security guards. but when you talk about waiters/waitresses, we really give them tips like it is a must after we finished eating. so it is not because  we don't give tips to guards but it is not common tradition that we grow up with.

i also don't know any country or area where they give tips to security guards. never heard such. so it is not surprising that we haven't seen such gesture from the public.

instead of tips, i guess, we can show respect to their profession by -
> being polite / not arrogant to them upon entering their premises
> greet them with a smile / happy face
> saying thank you whenever they open the door for you

for me, they are more than happy already when you show those gestures to them. sometimes, it is not the money that is important but how you treat people

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I agree with you.  Security personnel are risking their lives to provide services for us.  Their work is really commendable.  Because they are there, we can travel safely in the mall, on the road, in the bank. They risk their lives and provide security to our lives.  We can do this little bit for them.  A few money tips will make them very happy I believe.  Their happiness can be the reason for our happiness.  We should respect them.  Think how dangerous our public life would be without security guards

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December 30, 2023, 05:55:56 PM
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I agree with you.  Security personnel are risking their lives to provide services for us.  Their work is really commendable.  Because they are there, we can travel safely in the mall, on the road, in the bank. They risk their lives and provide security to our lives.  We can do this little bit for them.  A few money tips will make them very happy I believe.  Their happiness can be the reason for our happiness.  We should respect them.  Think how dangerous our public life would be without security guards

they dont risk lives for customers. they risk losing their jobs if they dont deter thiefs from stealing a businesses property.
its upto the business to compensate their employees

just read the signs in shopping mall car parks.


if there is a thief in a shopping mall that grabs a customers wallet or purse.. the victim has no recourse to sue the shopping mall for lack of security.. again its customers own risk.

security are these days not even responsible to get hands on with a thief they are just trained to take notes, make records and reports of observations and pass it onto the police. EG take picture of thiefs, what they are wearing and what direction they went

its not a customers responsibility to then pay the security guards wages directly. its the employers job to pay the security guard

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December 30, 2023, 06:55:17 PM
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I agree with you.  Security personnel are risking their lives to provide services for us.  Their work is really commendable.  Because they are there, we can travel safely in the mall, on the road, in the bank. They risk their lives and provide security to our lives.  We can do this little bit for them.  A few money tips will make them very happy I believe.  Their happiness can be the reason for our happiness.  We should respect them.  Think how dangerous our public life would be without security guards

That's more like a police officer than the security personnel that we usually see at the entrance of malls. Mostly they have to ensure that no one would enter the establishment with any harmful devices or weapons like guns, bombs, etc. The thing is if you are a manager seeing your guards receiving money from people wouldn't look good right? You could give them gifts wrapped or food much better for them to eat for their lunch, of course, food that is sealed cause they wouldn't also accept food from strangers. Your intention might be good but it could harm them as they might lose their jobs. Plus they are not like a police officer who would risk their lives for just a stolen bag. If there's a tip box then that's good sign to tip.

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December 30, 2023, 08:01:43 PM
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tipping is usually only for businesses too cheap to value their employee's (EG waitresses)
if a business cares about its employees they should fairly pay their staff. let their wage be the appreciation of the job that they do

secondly, security guards these days are just a visual deterrent, they are not allowed to get "hands on" even if they know a thief has stolen goods on them. all they can do is observe and report
I think one thing the OP forgot is that, they are doing their job. You don’t get tipped for doing your job, of course it’s your job, it’s what you’re employed and paid to do. A tip comes in due to the nature at which you deliver the service or product. That extra work you put in, that gesture, that passion shown towards the appreciation of the customer, to ensure they know that they are valid is just what might attract a tip or promotion from your employers.

In fact, a good security company is one that discourages any form of tips to members of there security unit. Why you might ask?
It’s one way to ensure they do there job without any form of discrimination or prejudice due to the fact that, one caught in the act, be it customer or staff is one that has favored you in terms of tips in a prior time. Having no reason to be grateful ensures you satisfactorily of mind, conscience and service to the company deliver on the job.

Like good Franky1 already said, you’ve got to pay well to archive this of your security unit.

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December 30, 2023, 08:33:44 PM
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I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.
There's this incident in our country when a security guy have taken hostages because he just want to get the attention of the company that he's working for. He has said that he's been fired and the company was very corrupt with their practices and he can't take it anymore. I know that their job is hard and they are also like the cops that are assigned into one details. But if you ever guys are interested with that story that I have mentioned that has happened in our country pre-pandemic, you'll get to understand why in our country this job isn't given importance because many belittles them. There's the video that I've watched from CNA (Singaporean news) that has made a flash back about it. I think if you want to tip them, you can tip them but it depends if their agencies allow it.
Article: (Hostage-taking security guard refused P1M from employer; insisted on being heard)
YouTube video: (Grenade-Wielding Former Security Guard Takes Over 50 Hostages In Manila Mall | The Negotiators)

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December 30, 2023, 09:49:45 PM
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That’s your opinion and it’s well received. Tipping is purely optional and should never be mandated. If you feel the service received is good and worthy of appreciation, then by all means, go ahead and tip. Giving tips is an optional gesture of being thankful from the customer for an excellent service provided.

I’d like to think that security being a priority in any organization or business, would pay their security staff a decent amount. Asides that, no employee should have to rely on tips to augment what they get paid.

That's right, giving the tip is optional. If you really appreciate what the guard is doing to you, why not, right? Give a tip because he really helped you, but if you just tip the guards for no reason, it doesn't look good.

We know that the guards are very helpful, especially at the mall, because this is where we ask where the place is when we can't see it or we get lost. They are the ones who give us directions, I often ask the guard for directions because they already memorize the malls. I don't often give tips to the guards, but I don't lose my gratitude to them after they help me, the others are okay with them that you appreciate what they did for you.

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