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December 27, 2023, 12:01:11 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

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December 27, 2023, 12:05:23 PM
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It's only a lie if we aren't having fun when we are gambling.

You can think of other meaning, but if gambling is not for fun, what it is?
Maybe everyone have different interpretation on what they are doing when they gamble, but for me, it's all about fun and I don't intend to change even in the long run. I believe, even those who are gambling for money, or those who are making a living in gambling, they are still considering gmabling for fun as that's what they love to do, they are just lucky that they make money and have fun at the same time, since most of us doesn't experience that.

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December 27, 2023, 12:09:20 PM
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Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.
When I was addicted, I was thinking I could make money from gamble. Later I knew my thinking was foolishness as I continued to lose more and more than winning. We should just take it or leave it, gambling should be just for fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
It is just like I go to bear parlor to drink and have fun and I spend money. If I gamble and lose and I have the fun, it is better because I use the amount of money that I can afford to lose to gamble.

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December 27, 2023, 12:25:20 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
When people pay money to go and watch a movie in the cinema, they are simply going to have some fun. The same amount can still be spent on gambling just because of fun. But I prefer gambling to paying just to watch movies. In gambling one might be lucky to win but in other forms of entertainment, you are just entertained with no benefits. I don't think it is proper to assume that people are lying when they say they are gambling for fun. As a gambler, I always expect profit from my stakes but if that is not the case, I still derive satisfaction because I am entertained. Any gambler who is attracted to gambling solely to make a profit might end up suffering from gambling disorder.

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December 27, 2023, 12:32:13 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun.
If you treat playing as a form of leisure and not gambling a serious amount of money or anything beyond your limit then it could still be fun regardless of the accumulated net losses over the week or month. You don't really count the amount you spend on movies or night outs and say "I'm losing" do you?

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December 27, 2023, 12:34:24 PM
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I know that fact that our chances of losing are way higher than winning but I cannot still seem to stop playing because I really enjoy the roller coaster ride in emotion that is being given by gambling. And I think that's most of the gamblers' reason why they cannot stop gambling too. I mean, where can we find that kind of adrenaline that is being given by gambling? I doubt there are other choices.
The truth about people putting money on the line is the main reason why one thing or event gets more exciting. It boosts the entertainment factor of a game whether it's a sport or a casino game. It doesn't matter, as long as we know that it is our money, hard-earned money that will be risked.
Today, I have been playing for 4 hours of Keno and changing numbers that I pick most of the time and I can say I am having fun doing that especially when I hit a multiwin. I am trying to win against the house and I think that's also one of the reasons why we continue gambling. It's not easy to defeat them but getting a multiwin gives the idea that we can.

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December 27, 2023, 12:48:26 PM
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But is it truly fun knowing you're playing a rigged game? Can genuine enjoyment exist when the specter of financial ruin looms large? That's the crux of the conundrum, partner. The thrill of the gamble, the electric anticipation of a potential win, can be undeniably intoxicating. But true entertainment requires a sense of balance, a knowledge that even if the odds aren't in your favor, the experience itself holds some intrinsic value.

That's where the "affordable loss" argument falls short. Sure, you can limit your wagers, minimize the potential damage. But can you truly savor the experience when every bet carries the weight of potential regret, the bitter aftertaste of knowing you've defied logic and embraced a losing proposition?

Perhaps the real "fun" in gambling lies not in the pursuit of riches, but in the experience itself – the shared laughs with friends, the camaraderie around the table, the temporary escape from the mundane. If the focus shifts from chasing wins to relishing the social, the ritualistic, the purely experiential aspects of the game, then maybe, just maybe, a healthier sense of enjoyment can emerge.

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December 27, 2023, 01:05:14 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

People already know that spending a lot of time in casinos and gambling wouldn't do any good, but why some people would still go back? We could say that some people would prefer to have fun and some are aiming to get profits. Let's say for example two people going to an amusement park with different goals, one wants to have fun by trying different kinds of experiences and the other one is just going to work and earn money, of course if its that's the case, working is like tiring and draining, so if you are just aiming to earn money in gambling, then it wouldn't do any good since gambling still based on luck even if you put an effort on having techniques and strategies. Maybe the old gamblers and the newbies have a different mindset at the start, if you are already used to the mechanics for sure you would only focus on winning rather than having fun, and newbies find it exciting as they experience new things.

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December 27, 2023, 01:10:09 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
I'm sure that if you take into account how many times you're mentally stressed, experiencing burnouts from work, having congested mind and looking for how to decongest it and so on, you'll find out that gambling moderately helps you reset your mind from things that clouds it and get ready to either take up more activities or rest peacefully. The reason you gamble is a personal thing, myself gamble to relax my mind and have fun, maybe its not your reason, it still validates the fact that we are different people. Most times I come back from work with a very big headache from over-concentration, and being a bachelor, there's no other thing to do to decongest my mind and I just gamble moderately to shift my mind from the complexities of work and give me peace of mind, so I can rest properly and prepare for the next day. The thing is that most times people are more attached to the negatives of something that it blinds them from visualizing how much that must have helped them live a balanced life. I know I loose a lot from gambling, but compared to the good it does for me when I'm stressed up, I think I'm on the winning side. Peace of mind is so underrated these days and whatever helps me achieve that, is never a loss to me.

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December 27, 2023, 01:11:23 PM
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Well, sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't. It's a love-hate relationship. Gambling is an emotional rollercoaster, full of anticipation, anxiety, stress, and joy, along with an adrenaline and dopamine rush that boost your mood. Enjoy the journey, not the destination. Gambling is all about enjoying the moment, especially if you're playing nerve-racking games. Waiting for the outcome is thrilling and gets your blood flowing. That's what we're after; certainly, the chances are often not on our side, and I believe the majority of us acknowledge that it's way more probable to lose money than earn it. I find it extremely hard to imagine someone earning a living through it.

Thus, in my opinion, the best option is to manage well enough that you're able to stay afloat, which means not losing a fortune but not expecting or making a fortune either.

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December 27, 2023, 01:15:02 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.
Because humans want challenges and rewards and they find them on gambling platforms, we are naturally gambling in many things that we do in our lives, like setting up businesses, and relationships we all take risks in the hope of getting rewarded although sometimes there are uncertainty in many of our actions once we won in our challenges like in gambling the brain releases dopamine which is a feel-good feeling and this is something that we want every time we gamble, the money is part of our reward system like dopamine.

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Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.
Some people gamble for the feeling I have seen people throwing away big money and it is nothing to them because they want to boast their ego and that's fun for these people.



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December 27, 2023, 01:18:14 PM
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I'm being tempted to agree with you that gambling for fun is a lie we tell ourselves to make us feel better in the midst of losses. I don't really condemn the proponents of such since its a strategy for reducing the pain of losing.  But the reality is that no one gamble for fun. The primary reason for gambling is money and more money. Remove the money from gambling and see how many of those championing gambling for fun will still be there.

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December 27, 2023, 01:18:25 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

In order to gamble for fun you need to understand two things:

first, gambling is not a way to earn a stable income. Sure, you could become a millionaire with pure luck but the chances of that happening are almost non-existent. So why bother? Second, the rush you feel during winning or losing are brain chemicals and nothing more. This same rush can be reproduced with smaller amounts of money, so therefore betting big is a fools game.

Once you understand those two facts, you can gamble with tiny amounts of money and still enjoy yourself. Thats what gambling for fun is, and it works for me perfectly.

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December 27, 2023, 01:19:46 PM
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Some people gamble for the feeling I have seen people throwing away big money and it is nothing to them because they want to boast their ego and that's fun for these people.


Yeah, we have different financial standing in life, some are rich, while some are on the middle class. I didn't include the poor as they don't have the right to gamble, at least this is a way to discourage them as in the first place, gambling is fun, so why would they gamble when they are struggling financially, it's not fun anymore and gambling would just give them more burden in life.

It's fun for those who are capable of spending money for gambling, that's the real talk here.

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December 27, 2023, 01:29:32 PM
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It is not the kind of fun that comes naturally. It is artificial fun, with consequences.

Gamblers will have fun when they are putting money on the bet, when they are deluding themselves into thinking that the bet they are making will make them a positive gain. Gamblers will stop having fun, and in fact face the opposite of fun, once they start to lose and go into the negative. The fun does not just stop here, but negative effects are also added on top.

It is somewhat "margin fun". Increasing the effects of the fun, in the form of adding potential monetary gain to the game, though in turn, adding negative effects to the action itself.

It's not worth it.
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No, it's not a lie we're telling ourselves.  Gambling certainly has its thrills and excitement.  The adrenaline rush of risking it all on the spin of a wheel or turn of a card captivates many.  That rush of adrenaline when you've got money on the game and  it's fun! 

But here's the thing.  As much as we try to tell ourselves otherwise, gambling is still gambling.  It ain't investing.  And it sure as heck ain't a way to make a living.  At the end of the day the house always wins.  They don't build those fancy casino sites by giving money away. 

So enjoy it, have your fun, but be smart.  Set a budget and stick to it, no excuses. The second it starts messing with your life - your relationships your work, your finances - its time to walk away. 

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December 27, 2023, 01:41:27 PM
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I think if you have the money to play and say to yourself that you are going to play and have some fun then that's it. The problem is that there are gamblers who doesn't want to admit that they are losing money already and think that they still being entertained.

So it's either you play with small amount to have some fun and then quit. Or believed that even if you continue to play and losing a lot of money and that you are not addicted then that's where the issues is and you can call it a lie. Most of the time our minds are going to play tricks on us specially this form of entertainment called gambling.

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Gambling is fun for the people who can fund their habit on playing any games they want without worrying for their essential needs later when they lose their budget money for playing. But it's a different stories for those who get addicted and play as there is no tomorrow for them because it always ends up in regret once they have no longer the means to play anymore and at the same time to buy their essential needs in their life.

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December 27, 2023, 01:52:31 PM
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Well, at the first place gambling is born and created solely for fun and entertainment it become the hobbies of the past people as internet is not prominent and there is no other way to entertain theirselves so gambling is one of the main event and games that brought entertainment to them and even now, but in the latter part gambling become subject to something bad or produce misery, but the thing is we people are that one that is tarnishing the image of gambling, yes gambling games is associated with money but that is the business of it but some people take gambling too much to the point that it make them suffer and the one at fault at this is the human itself so nothing to blame but the gamblers that let themselves miserable because of gambling, gambling will still be a subject for fun and entertainment its up to the people if they make it change for themselves.

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December 27, 2023, 01:56:03 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

You don’t know exactly the concept of gambling that’s you are confused like this to the term gamble what you can afford to lose. Gambling is not a source of income because it’s not a job or investment tool. Its purpose is for entertainment purposes only which you can get on the fun when you experience win in the game(not net profit but rather the bets that won). You will never feel the fun if you are counting your losses since most of gambling games has the house edge.

The best way to have fun on gambling is by celebrating when you win and charge the loss as payment to the temporary fun which gambling provides you. That’s why you should not gamble if you are not financially capable of wasting money for entertainment. It’s like drinking beer and smoking cigarettes, you don’t get any benefits on it but people keep doing it due to the inexplainable fun when doing it.

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