Why do some campaign members posting essay?

[TheUltraElite]

"Unhealthy" is when one forum members calls out other forum members about things that they dont like.

If you think the post is irrelevant, report it. Let moderators take action and move on from that. If you are still getting bugged by that user, put them on your Ignore list, report the manager about it and leave.

I do not appreciate people calling each other out like this, this is a place where people should be able to hang out like a coffee-shop adda, forget about campaigns and all. If you guys still have to mudsling, we got all sorts of social media for that, toxicity is nothing new, adding to it in unhealthy, trying to remove it makes it wholesome.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

But how about this one, it's a challenge reading this post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456632.msg63389484#msg63389484

Yes, there are many in the gambling section, most of them Stake, as the OP said. Another example would be junder, which I've been talking about recently. You can see that making the written rubbish too long can earn them a bonus and that's why you see so many in that campaign writing long posts that at first glance look coherent but without basically saying anything meaningful.

[SatoPrincess]

I don't want to mention names because there are many. Most of them are probably coming from stake campaign. It seems like some of them are trying to make a post longer when it can be done with short post.

Do they get paid more for writing essays? I think it has more to do with merits than post quota for signature campaigns. Some believe long posts have higher chances of getting merits than concise and short posts. This belief did not come from thin air, there are members who reward long posts just because they feel the OP has put a lot of effort into writing a wall of text. Members who have been rewarded their ability to make long posts will find it difficult to change even as they grow in the forum.

[Vaculin]

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

Most likely, their mindset might be if they create lengthy post, that will automatically earn merit because of the various insights included in their post. But in reality, it will only confuse the reader and might discourage some readers from reading it due to the fact that its so tiring to read. That's why I don't see positive effect on members having that posting habit. It's still better to create a short but precise post, rather than to create confusion and tiring effect on part of the readers.

However, this is also case to case basis. If the topic requires a detailed post and would mean elaborating all the significant details, then posting like an essay may be an advantage. But still, only few of the members would likely to respond to that certain thread.

[electronicash]

it's healthy for the forum since the Google bots will like unique content and the Google bots index the pages faster for the search engine. 

since you are referring to the Stake campaign, you should know that the manager of the campaign removes the users who don't write longer posts. that's why they make it very long. this applies to other campaigns because they indicate posting around 250 characters. they like it that way like people will notice the siggy.

[Gladitorcomeback]

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me?

Yes , I also noticed many users especially in the gambling section and altcoins section. You already gesture the reason which is compaign rules to make a long most have a more than 300 or 400 characters. Members are trying to increase extra 3-4 sentence after main point.

If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

Yes, if the details provided after main point further disclose the main idea and help readers to easily understand.

No , If just repeating of nonsense idea again and again without any further information.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

Well, a post can be long and still contain no relevant ideas but just some beating around the bush. Some comments can be short but still contain a very informative idea; that's also how some comments can be long and also contain a very well-detailed explanation about the topic of discussion.

A comment can be equally short but irrelevant to the topic of discussion, so it all depends on the member and how he or she wishes to make their post.

Apart from the fact that the campaigns in which I have ever participated required me to make comments that were not less than 100, 150, and 200 words, respectively, I normally like my comments to be very informative, right from when I was a newbie. From my post history, you can tell that right from when I joined the forum, I didn't write less than 200 words in most of my posts. That doesn't mean that if I come across some topics that require me to make only a few words of comment, I will.

Although some members think that it's when they write long essay, that's when their post can be counted as a quality post, or that will aggravate the merit source to splash some merit.

Conclusively, a comment can be an essay but useless; a comment can be short and still useless. Vis-à-vis, a comment can be short and very informative, just as a long comment will also be very informative. It all depends on the commenter and their ability to use either a short statement with one or two paragraphs to pass on their reasonable opinion, while some people actually like to give a very detailed explanation with long paragraphs, making sure they link together every possible scenario and example that would help the reader understand what they are saying.

[SamReomo]

This user's post also seems like an essay: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=885934

I never thought that someone would consider my posts as Essays but if you think like that than I can't change your mind. I try to explain my point of view in detail so people can understand them easily but sometimes I don't make long posts. I know that many people may consider somewhat longs posts as Essays but it's important to read the posts carefully before coming to a conclusion. I will always be making some posts longer if detail is needed in those posts and would make other posts shorter if they can deliver the message in short format.

I have seen posts of some members which were very long in length and it was hard to read those posts seriously. However, I won't name anyone in this thread as many others might know those members already. I find nothing wrong in those posts and sometimes I feel that the members who make such long posts might have enough knowledge to share with us and I also believe that it would take those members a lot of time to make such long posts.

[Faisal2202]

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

What do you mean by essays, is it mean big articles or long replies? Well, it is not the campaign participants who are writing essays it is just those who are most active and participating and contributing as in terms of useful content so called essays. And there activity and contribution made them rank fast, and also help them build some trust and they became the active member of this forum.

So once they become the active members so most of these active members are now part of some campaign which are paying them money for making posts, so this time there optimism about the creativity of posts increased more and they are trying to be more creative. Which is a good thing and there is nothing bad in it. But I doubt this creativity will remain the same means at the same level as it is now due to the ban on some campaigns. Well, let's see the impact but I don't think it would be that big.

[mirakal]

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

It's definitely unhealthy to the forum because instead of finding short but quality posts, some participants chose to create lengthy post in hunt for merits. Because if this merit system does not exist, I don't think these people will put too much effort on posting to the point that they end up creating more of like essays. But sad to say, instead of gaining attraction and merits from the readers, some just didn't dare to read the post since the reading time may be time consuming. Even myself, I usually don't go after with these long posts since it keeps me looking what and where the main point is. I would rather want to read a short but well explained thoughts and ideas as its certainly not tiring to read.

[Saisher]

Based on my observation some of the most merited replies I mean replies not the Original poster of the thread are short concise informative and on point, I prefer to pattern my style to that kind of reply instead of posting a long essay, after all this is still a community discussion it's like we have a group of people in conversation done online, and we have readers to consider too.
I just wonder will those people who write long posts will still do it if they are not in a signature campaign.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

Some members have this feeling that if they post something very long like inform of a text book that they can be merited, like it seems informative to them but they forget that it mustn't be like that, cut it short and give out the important part of the post. A short and simple post can pass the message without stressing the readers and many users on this Forum don't like reading much (long post), like having a long note as post (some can be informative no matter how long), they (the readers) see it as a waste of time.
And is not only campaign members, those who always do such even if they know the post won't generate traffic they still go ahead to do just to impress are also those that are not yet in a campaign.

[Hewlet]

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

when you say "essay", it depends on what you mean. If it's just because of the length of the writeup, I doubt that's a problem to be worried about.

If I have an opinion to share and would need to make it detailed so the person reading it can understand what I'm saying, then I can't reduce the length of my writeup and make less meaning out of what I'm saying just because I don't want to be seen to be making a lengthy post.

The only problem what writing a lengthy writeup is with regard to those people that spam the forum with unnecessary post that is difficult to understand but is at the same time lengthy and they will post multiple of it at different boards in the forum

[Hispo]

In my personal opinion and experience, for a post or participation here in the forum to be informative and worth of merits that post needs to be a certain minimum volume of information and pictures attached to it in the best of the cases. Nonetheless, there have been also posts which are rather short and received merits, but those are valuable for a different reason, rathed for their informative value, they are funny, amusing or point out something is which obvious; the matter is more likely to receive merits if it is posted by a recognized member of the forum, instead of a newbie.

The size of the post does not have much to do with the value of it for this community, a long post can either be good or plain garbage, depending on whether it is alligned with the context of the discussion or not. Perhaps, we are getting used to shorter interactions in other places of the internet like Twitter or shorter paragraphs in Discord/Telegram, so when we switch back to this place and encounter long texts, we don't feel like reading them. I can certainly feel identified with that phenomenon.

[Rruchi man]

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People express themselves differently, some like me like to do so in a few words, some others do so in so many words that they do not know when it turns into an epistle, and there are actually readers who take their time to read carefully through these epistles because they believe that that is what they should be seeing in a forum like this.

It doesn't matter if your writing in very many words or a few words, because the most important thing should be that someone can learn from what you have written in some way.

[panganib999]

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

As someone who is more comfortable sharing my whole train of thought rather than summarizing shit into a single sentence, I feel like this is insulting, as if to say that long posts doesn't make the content any better. The thing is that besides the campaign requirements, every single one of us here push for better and more productive content rather than trashy posts made by people who just wanted to farm interactions and impressions in this forum, and so with that comes the premise that people would need to create longer posts with full-on explanations (just like this one) rather than summarize their whole shit just so your low-attention-span having ass could read it.

Matter of fact I think I speak for everyone here when I say we'd rather have longer posts with more content than have people post something like "I approve of it." or "I am scared of the current state of bitcoin blah de blah" which frankly does not contribute to the discussion and is deliberately added to just farm as much posts as possible.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Long posts are indeed very tiring at times. Sometimes, at the beginning of a post, you understand how it will end. I think there are no fans of long reading on the forum unless the author has won the users' trust as a person who always lays out the value of words.
There is a saying: “Brevity is the sister of talent,” so the one who knows how to express his thoughts without the presence of “water” in the texts is truly a genius.

[Mr.suevie]

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

Funny, but I think the reason why most campaigners or users here post bulky stuffs is because if the perception that this here community has which is " bulky actually might increase quality" although I say this from IMO. but that being said most of them is just there posting style and I know of a particular poster although he doesn't promote any campaign but he is known here as the father of bulky post and not just bulky, his post are always incised and filled with lots of information @jayJuanGee.

[WhyFhy]

I know what you mean. Sometimes members are really passionate about the subjects and can be a little excited to let you know how they feel.
Also some of them have post minimums they make sure to abide by in signature campaigns. So you'll see a lot of filibuster content.

[yhiaali3]

Writing style is a personal freedom. Members cannot be judged for long articles. Some of them intend to fill the articles with unnecessary words to make them seem long, but others may not be able to express their idea well without providing long explanations.