Moving to America

[Bill buffalo]

Let's just say I was from another country moving to America what would be the best state to move to based on safety, diversity and lack of racism also based on peace and standard of living

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[pooya87]

I hear California is very nice. The standard of living is so high that in 2023 alone 10000 people decided to live on the streets and "take care of business" on the sidewalks as people walk by 💩

[Hispo]

California and New York are very good in terms of lack of racism, diversity and things like that, but they are also extremely expensive places to move and have some normal standards of living, rent is high and some people won't like to live there because of the amount of homelessness which has accumulated through these years.
If I had to move to the United States and wanted to have some semi-normal standards of living, then I would try to stay away from big cities and find a place to live in the rural areas of the country, probably in the center-north of the country. Houses/rents are more affordable there, there is less people drugged living in the streets and it would be much calmer; though all if it comes with less diversity/tolerance for people of different skin color/origin and also, it is more difficult to find a job in rulsr areas of the country, one would need to be willing to either work remotely or get one's hand dirty working in farms.
Regardless where one ends up living, the best choice is to try the legal ways to move in the USA.

[DeathAngel]

If you are looking for a state in America that prioritises safety, diversity, lack of racism, peace & a high standard of living consider California. California is known for its diverse population, progressive values & strong anti-discrimination laws. It offers a range of cities with excellent amenities, cultural richness & opportunities for personal & professional growth. Remember that experiences can vary within states so thorough research & consideration of individual preferences are advised before making a decision.

[Natsuu]

California it is. I learned from my colleagues that California's pretty open-minded and inclusive, though your experience might vary. Jobs are booming, especially in tech and entertainment, but yeah, living in the big cities can be pricey. From the lively city life to chill countryside vibes, California's got a bit of everything

[OgNasty]

Let's just say I was from another country moving to America what would be the best state to move to based on safety, diversity and lack of racism also based on peace and standard of living

A lot of it depends on your own politics and beliefs.  For example, some states let you carry guns while others do not.  If you want to live somewhere that guns are commonplace, you'll want to choose your state wisely.  Other things like legalization of marijuana can differ from state to state as well.  If guns and weed aren't your concerns, there are also things like if alcohol can be sold on Sundays, if abortion is legal, the tax rates you have to pay for property and income...  Your personal situation on whether you're retired or working, renting or own your home...  All things that can make a big difference on your life state to state and should be considered.

[BADecker]

I talked to a Hispanic friend a couple days ago. He said that a lot of Mexican illegals are moving back, because they are finding out America isn't as free as they had been told.

[Hispo]

I talked to a Hispanic friend a couple days ago. He said that a lot of Mexican illegals are moving back, because they are finding out America isn't as free as they had been told.

Care to elaborate? Because what you say is too ambiguous for anyone here to figure out what you mean with it.
Perhaps it is not about freedom but rather lack of opportunities in jobs they would have liked to partake in, perhaps mistreatment by others, etc. Actually, I have a neighbor who moved to the United States legally some months ago and he is currently working helping to build seasonal attractions for people to enjoy in the winter, I assume he will also help to build and then disassemble more attractions.
Anyways, my family and I talked to him some days ago through voice and he seemed to be earning fairly well for that kind of job which requires physical strength, regardless of it he seemed to be eager to eventually come back here and use all the money he could save to start his own business.

By the way, coming from you, I would have never expected you to have friends of Hispanic origin, no offense, but rather some like someone who would rather to not talk to then if you had the option not to.

[btc78]

I would say that that depends on the kind of lifestyle you want live and what kind of job you are hoping to have in america a lot of people move to new york since they believe they can really be successful in that city although i heard that the apartment prices in new york are extremely expensive

I think wherever state you go to, there will be always some kind of racist you can meet one or two racist person everywhere you go so the state where you should be going must be considered depending on the job you want to have or is expecting to have

[Hispo]

I would say that that depends on the kind of lifestyle you want live and what kind of job you are hoping to have in america a lot of people move to new york since they believe they can really be successful in that city although i heard that the apartment prices in new york are extremely expensive

I think wherever state you go to, there will be always some kind of racist you can meet one or two racist person everywhere you go so the state where you should be going must be considered depending on the job you want to have or is expecting to have

From what I get about communities in the United States is that ethnic groups then to stay together within the same neighborhoods, so as long as anyone from a specific nationality or ethnic stays close to their neighborhoods there would not be any problem with racism and exclusion, though moving to a state where there is not much discrimination based on origin is a plus.
Honestly, I would try to stay as far away as possible from New York, much homelessness and lack or opportunities to acquire goods which are necessary to live in the United States in the long run, I have know people in their 30s who cannot afford to move out their parent's house because of the high prices of rent and real state in general in the city of New York.
If anything, that city could be a temporary place to make money and then move to other place where there is a chance to acquire a small plot of land and then afford a used trailer to park there.
Unfortunately, it seems the american dream is not longer what it used to be, even natives of that country would agree on it, people has become more pessimistic about the their personal future.

[Kelward]

I would say that that depends on the kind of lifestyle you want live and what kind of job you are hoping to have in america a lot of people move to new york since they believe they can really be successful in that city although i heard that the apartment prices in new york are extremely expensive

I think wherever state you go to, there will be always some kind of racist you can meet one or two racist person everywhere you go so the state where you should be going must be considered depending on the job you want to have or is expecting to have

Not an American and I've never visited the country, but from the summary of what I'm getting from this thread is that the big cities like new York and California, are more accommodating with very minimal racism, but the cost of living in these big cities are very high. While the country sides have more racists but their cost of living are more cheaper compered to the big cities. So it'll come down to preference, if a white person from perhaps Europe, wants a state in America, that the cost of living is moderate, then the country side states will be preferable, because there'll be no racism concerns for the person. But if the person is perhaps asian or especially black, then the big cities can be a better option because of the acceptance of people of all races, but they have to contend with the high standards of living. My analysis is based on assumption, as I've not carried out any research on the topic outside of this thread.

[jrrsparkles]

Let's just say I was from another country moving to America what would be the best state to move to based on safety, diversity and lack of racism also based on peace and standard of living

If you want to work and live then move to New York or California. If you are rich and move to states (not the best option though because there are better countries out there) then Utah, Tennesse, and Hawai.

[Essential10]

Let's just say I was from another country moving to America what would be the best state to move to based on safety, diversity and lack of racism also based on peace and standard of living

Going to the best country based on peace and quality of life like you said America, may be your personal choice. There are many countries other than America where the standard of living is much better. A good country to consider might be Canada or New Zealand, both known for their safety, diversity and peaceful lifestyle. As far as I know these countries generally have very low crime rates. These countries are ranked highly in terms of quality of life and have strict policies against racism and discrimination.

[LTU_btc]

If I had to move to the United States and wanted to have some semi-normal standards of living, then I would try to stay away from big cities and find a place to live in the rural areas of the country, probably in the center-north of the country. Houses/rents are more affordable there, there is less people drugged living in the streets and it would be much calmer; though all if it comes with less diversity/tolerance for people of different skin color/origin and also, it is more difficult to find a job in rulsr areas of the country, one would need to be willing to either work remotely or get one's hand dirty working in farms.
Regardless where one ends up living, the best choice is to try the legal ways to move in the USA.

I haven't been to USA, so, I can't advice to OP, but personally, I wouldn't like to live in huge cities like New York and LA. As someone who lives in small city, I prefer calm rhytm of life and reaching everything what I need in less than 30 minutes. I would hate to spend hours of my life daily in traffic jams. And when I see how much rent of tiny apartment in New York costs, you have to earn a lot just to pay for rent. And there is some places in these cities you better avoid visiting if you care about your safety, like Bronx for example.
Florida for someone who hates winter looks like great place to live. Maybe I wouldn't want to live in Miami, but it would be interesting to visit it one day just feel that Vice City vibe .

[Hispo]

If I had to move to the United States and wanted to have some semi-normal standards of living, then I would try to stay away from big cities and find a place to live in the rural areas of the country, probably in the center-north of the country. Houses/rents are more affordable there, there is less people drugged living in the streets and it would be much calmer; though all if it comes with less diversity/tolerance for people of different skin color/origin and also, it is more difficult to find a job in rulsr areas of the country, one would need to be willing to either work remotely or get one's hand dirty working in farms.
Regardless where one ends up living, the best choice is to try the legal ways to move in the USA.

I haven't been to USA, so, I can't advice to OP, but personally, I wouldn't like to live in huge cities like New York and LA. As someone who lives in small city, I prefer calm rhytm of life and reaching everything what I need in less than 30 minutes. I would hate to spend hours of my life daily in traffic jams. And when I see how much rent of tiny apartment in New York costs, you have to earn a lot just to pay for rent. And there is some places in these cities you better avoid visiting if you care about your safety, like Bronx for example.
Florida for someone who hates winter looks like great place to live. Maybe I wouldn't want to live in Miami, but it would be interesting to visit it one day just feel that Vice City vibe .

Though, for some reason I do not truly understand completely, people in the United States also tend to rule out Florida as a bad way to live in, for some reason. The perception I have got about that place from things I have heard from friends is that Florida is a State which serves as a place for people to go for retirement, a place with exotic animals which could represent a danger for people in general, like alligators, anacondas, etc. you can indeed feel some relief during the winter, but during summer temperatures and thermal sensation could be unbearable, even for some residents.
If OP had some curiosity or attraction for the Latino people, though it would be a good option for him, it is no secret there is a bunch of people from Latin America living there in Florida.
The prices of real state are of course as high as one would expect.

[pooya87]

The "land of opportunity"

Sexual attacks and other traumatic experiences have led to an unprecedented level of hopelessness and suicidal thoughts among America's young women, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Monday.

Nearly 3 in 5 teen girls (57%) said they felt "persistently sad or hopeless." That's the highest rate in a decade. And 30% said they have seriously considered dying by suicide — a percentage that's risen by nearly 60% over the past 10 years.

[bluebit25]

OP, do you like this feeling?



And I want to express that that place is in your own mind, external problems, if you don't need to differentiate, always appear in the context of your life. I don't see any city that doesn't have its own problems, I mean the distinction between good and bad is always present anywhere that makes us discriminate, and it won't go away, we just have to accept it and live in harmony with them to reduce fatigue.

"The land of dreams" and it includes "nightmares", the physical factor that determines emotions, you also need to accept that you can adapt to that material threshold, just like we are easily deceived personal freedom and rights without knowing personal obligations.

[Hispo]

The "land of opportunity"

Sexual attacks and other traumatic experiences have led to an unprecedented level of hopelessness and suicidal thoughts among America's young women, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Monday.

Nearly 3 in 5 teen girls (57%) said they felt "persistently sad or hopeless." That's the highest rate in a decade. And 30% said they have seriously considered dying by suicide — a percentage that's risen by nearly 60% over the past 10 years.

I would bet it is a mixture of lack of economical opportunities and also an after effect of the COVID pandemic. It affected many young people negatively, no doubt about it. More isolation, more uncertainty and added to the loss of family members to that virus. Though, I believe it would be biased to say data like that is exclusive from the United States, I assume if we took a look at those same indicators in other western democracies, both in the American continent and Europe , then we could find there has been an increase in the sense of hopelessness in most of them.

Whether OP or anyone actually feels like moving to the USA, ultimately won't care about those studies and will only look at their own personal emotions and possibilities. I have myself had friends and neighbors who moved there and they did not even considered that kind of studies on the feelings of the young people of the USA, they managed to get money and some will stay while other will come back with their freshly acquired savings.

[Fiatless]

Let's just say I was from another country moving to America what would be the best state to move to based on safety, diversity and lack of racism also based on peace and standard of living

I don't know why you want to move to the US. If you are moving because you are fleeing war or violence or you are seeking better economic opportunities, then it might be a good idea to do proper research on the states and their laws. The country has different laws in different states so you have to get acquainted with the laws as it relates to you. I would not like to stay in a state that has a high rate of gun use because it might be violent. I will also suggest that you locate a friend or relative who resides in the US because they might be in a better position to give you firsthand experience of how these states look like.

But if you desire to experience low racism, I am sorry to state that racism is enshrined in the culture of America. Even blacks that are born in America see black immigrants as opportunists. Just pray that Donald Trump doesn't win the next election because racism will increase if he is victorious. But the best place to stay and have respect and peace of mind is your country.

[BADecker]

The biggest reasons for moving to America are these:
1. The right to freely contract - but be careful with this;
2. The right to really own private property.