What many of us newbies are getting wrong about merit

[Troytech]

This is not me trying to claim as tho I know anything much, besides Im still a newbie like some of us here and I think I'm not to small or too early to give forum advice if I have something good to say. Since I'm also a newbie I think that one of our major challenge is to earn merit.
  Concerning our troublesome quest to make a post we'll deserving of merits, I have a few things I can share regarding this topic, it has worked for me and I can work for anyone who chooses to regard them.

👉 Firstly I'll say STOP BEING SO MERIT CONCIOUS : I know this might seem so misleading since my topic revolves around earning merit, but let me explain. I've seen many newbies make threads on topics they know very little about and at the end they would get Comments or reactions that would seem hateful or disciplinary (to me) from our seniors. And from my observation the root of this would be the fact that they are so much in a haste to earn merits than to understand how the forum works, what it wants and the basics of earning merit.
  If newbies take their time to read the forum rules on the merit system, they would find out that it states clearly that you would receive merit from making quality posts.
  But I think what they might be confused about is the idea of quality, which would have been simplified aa helpful. From my long term observation on this forum I have come to realise that the merit system isn't bias in any way and merit goes to those that are making helpful contributions to the forum, be it by Comments or making a thread.

With this point noted I think the next question should be, WHAT DOES THIS FORUM CONSIDER AS HELPFUL OR QUALITY POST?

👉 I would love to acknowledge the fact that different persons on this forum have different perspectives and interests and would react to different comments and thread differently.
 So I would give a very general answer to this question.

I believe that most people are on this forum for different reasons, but a major and inevitable reason would be to learn and improve on their knowledge on bitcoin and the crypto verse at large.

By this fact I can establish that we are all knowledge seekers here, and if knowledge seekers what we need is information. So what a person on this forum would consider helpful or quality would be the right information that would improve their knowledge or solve a problem for them. This makes the merit system even more clear, if you continue to improve on yourself and grow in knowledge, you can make better contributions and thereafter earn merits by favour of doing so.

Now if we have reached an agreement on this I would like to talk about my last point. Which is to grow and improve in knowledge.

👉 I've already established a fact that the merit system is in favour of those who improve themselves and learn more. And many newbies are still struggling because they lack this ideology. To earn merit you must contribute and to contribute you must grow.

The final and most important question should be HOW DO I GROW AND IMPROVE MYSELF?

👉 AS A NEWBIE YOU MUST FIRST UNDERSTAND THE FORUM AND ITS RULES:  

I'd like to make reference to a comment on a thread yesterday by Sandra hakeem

And what I'm most thankful for is the feeling of getting my first merit, it really filled me with joy. Now I'm more confident to do my own research and share new information here. Big thanks to everyone.

 All the same, you've learnt the rules and have gotten used to it already.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Im not trying to promote myself here, I just want to point out to fact that she said you have learnt the rules which I'm still learning, but as a matter of fact its still important. I've seen many newbies with about 50 activities and higher that are still making Common mistakes that are quite annoying to some seniors, stressing to the fact that very little newbies have read about the forum rules or doesn't even know about it. So every newbie must first take out time to understand forum rules first before posting.

👉 secondly I say ask questions, this is a learning community and everyone here is ready to help you out with answers to any questions regarding to crypto or bitcoin.

👉thirdly  IF THERE IS ANY TERM MOST USED ON THIS PLATFORM IT WOULD DYOR: this might be the most important thing every newbie should know and its doing your own research, it's every forum members responsibility.  If this is a learning community, i believe everyone should have something to contribute to the forum. But if you know nothing, what do you do. Become a crypto activist, join crypto related groups or communities on other socialplatforms, subscribe to news feeds. Just make learning about crypto your lifestyle and it would become part of you.

With all this said, I believe your growth in this crypto community is your decision and can only be achieved by you. This forum isn't bias and would reward you appropriately, so keep whining about how earning merits is difficult and Start learning.
Pls if you have any contributions to this thread, we would also love to learn from your information. We newbies would love to learn more.

I believe this is not all and I know our seniors can better contribute to this thread.

Everything I've said is based on my observations and what I've tried and worked for me.

Re worked

[Upgrade00]

Despite your opening statements, it always rubs the wrong way when a new member starts a thread (one that has been discussed thousands of times before) teaching other newbies how to act to grow their accounts.

Use the search option and bump one of the useful advice threads that has already been made.

 Concerning our troublesome quest to make a post we'll deserving of merits, I have a few things I can share regarding this topic, it has worked for me and I can work for anyone who chooses to regard them.

You or anyone else should not have a troublesome quest to make a post, that leads to merit begging threads and repetitive spam posts. The quest should be to read more useful threads and apply that knowledge in real life.

[Troytech]

Despite your opening statements, it always rubs the wrong way when a new member starts a thread (one that has been discussed thousands of times before) teaching other newbies how to act to grow their accounts.

Use the search option and bump one of the useful advice threads that has already been made.

 Concerning our troublesome quest to make a post we'll deserving of merits, I have a few things I can share regarding this topic, it has worked for me and I can work for anyone who chooses to regard them.

I'm not a new member, I've been on this forum for quite some time now even though in active.

[348Judah]

This is not me trying to claim as tho I know anything much, besides Im still a newbie like some of us here and I think I'm not to small or too early to give forum advice if I have something good to say. Since I'm also a newbie I think that one of our major challenge is to earn merit.

Why can't you allow yourself to be crucified yet before doing so on yourself, there must be something in that your mind telling you about this and you wish to spell it out before others help you do thesame, moreover who told you it's a major challenge on newbies to earn merits, have you discovered about the way people are ranking up, or maybe you should even know that newbie rank is the shortest any serious member could stay before leaving for others.

Concerning our troublesome quest to make a post we'll deserving of merits, I have a few things I can share regarding this topic, it has worked for me and I can work for anyone who chooses to regard them.

This aspect has been discussed hundred of times, what you're only trying to do is to get more attention on yourself to receive that same merits you're preaching about, a newbie indeed that knows how to quote and reference old post.

[Solosanz]

Nice thread sir, let's see how many user(s) get fooled by a newbie who's trying to teach newbies.

It's great, we need to have more people creating alt accounts, meriting each other, making each other achieving full member rank, applying a signature campaign and then start spamming in this forum. Don't forget to repeat and make money from it.

[Rikafip]

One of the things that both real and obviously fake newbies (like you) are getting wrong about merit is that you have to share guides and appear as know it all in order to het merit, while in fact you can also earn merit by by asking the right questions and being genuinely interested in bitcoin.

Nice thread sir, let's see how many user(s) get fooled by a newbie who's trying to teach newbies.

Since he already managed to earn 6 merits, I would say that he is doing a  good job getting people fooled.

[nakamura12]

There are newbies in rank but already knowledgeable about crypto therefore they are only considered as newbie in rank but never newbie when it comes to having knowledge so getting merits is not a must and it's not a race for ranking up an account. After all, this is a forum where we discuss different topics, share knowledge or information that is new like news and events. Merit system is not just for making people improve themselves but also lessen the accounts ranking up easily because of bounty hunters who post low quality posts that will only result in spam just for the sake of meeting the number of posts that is required to get rewarded from bounty campaigns.

[Smartvirus]

I must appreciate the ample time you would have put in to create this thread but, I wish you had used it to come up with something different you know, some other idea that would be while my informative to not just newbies or beginners but the ranked forks as well.
Like, I came to see yet another thread with merits for a header and am like, “another thread on merit again”…

Well, the idea is, some of the schemes becomes too polarized that, no body turns a second eye again or falls prey. Instead of being too concerned to create another thread, make this as a comment where you find a thread of this nature, it would be more valuable that way. Exposure might be your problem but, hope it makes meaning there.

[Troytech]

I must appreciate the ample time you would have put in to create this thread but, I wish you had used it to come up with something different you know, some other idea that would be while my informative to not just newbies or beginners but the ranked forks as well.
Like, I came to see yet another thread with merits for a header and am like, “another thread on merit again”…

Well, the idea is, some of the schemes becomes too polarized that, no body turns a second eye again or falls prey. Instead of being too concerned to create another thread, make this as a comment where you find a thread of this nature, it would be more valuable that way. Exposure might be your problem but, hope it makes meaning there.

Thanks a lot for showing me a better way to do things to be sincere, I was thinking everyone would say the same thing about this thread, but instead of judging as ever other person did, you gave a smooth advice that I could follow take myself a better and useful person to this forum. I really appreciate thanks. At least someone sees the hardwork put into making the post despite the "he is just merit hunting comments going on here".
And i think important threads like this if there have been made before should either be pinned on top so new commers intrested should view too or the idea of telling newbies to search for old topics should also be publicised on this forum  too as we always encourage others them to do personal research.
I believe that many newbies haven't taken advantage of this forum as a source of information, and many are still finding it hard to navigate the forum, I've check on YouTube and they aren't even much tutorial about this forum, which in a way makes the learning process a bit difficult for newbies that still find it hard to navigate the forum.
And another thing I'd love to point t out is the idea of ranked member thinking they know far more than new members which could be a big illusion. So many comments here were built around the ideology that a newbie, shouldn't be teaching other newbie and I don't see how that is even the a thing. Then if so oy ranked members should be allowed to make threads, since the forum consider them most knowledgeable.
I believe anyone could learn for anyone even a newbie or someone that just created an account could contribute if he has something to say. And I'm so very sure that most the people commenting on this thread didn't take their time to read through and just came to conclusions after reading the first few lines of my post.

[Pokapoka124]

And i think important threads like this if there have been made before should either be pinned on top so new commers intrested should view too or the idea of telling newbies to search for old topics should also be publicised on this forum  too as we always encourage others them to do personal research.

Aren’t you contradicting yourself here? I’m certain if the mods pinned your thread today, we would still have newbies creating the same thread about how to get merits. The problem is that most newbies do not want to do their own research even when the information is at their fingertips, they rather make their own thread than read. I believe people who do this here like to talk than listen IRL.

[nakamura12]

What are you doing mate?, If you don't want to write anything when you quoted someone then it's better if you didn't post this one because it is only a spam. If I were you, I would just delete it because if yoi didn't then you only add more work for the mods and right now they sre very busy deleting low quality posts and spam posts to make this forum clean. It would be better if you join the discussion but if you didn't know the topic then you can just find another topic to join in the discussion. Sorry guys since this post of mine is off topic.

[BlackBoss_]

A newbie comes to write an essay about merit.

Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn.

Why do some newbies posting essays?
Why do some campaign members posting essay?

Writing an essay won't help you to get merit.
Welcome message

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.

[kentrolla]

There are numerous topics in regards to the same but at the same time this is the topic where most of the users have misunderstood the concept because you will some people just keep on getting merit will be sharing extensive details which indeed helps other and there is no harm in it, while others just share their opinion and actively join any discussions and when they don't know they do some research and share the thoughts which looks natural they get merit. Now the difference between two is simplex as the first one wants to climb the ladder of ranking and the second one is just being themself and both deserve merits.

Merits should be considered as an add-on rather than a requirement.

[BlackBoss_]

Since he already managed to earn 6 merits, I would say that he is doing a  good job getting people fooled.

Fooled peopled to get 6 merit and distributed it to other accounts.

Merits should be considered as an add-on rather than a requirement.

Merit is a requirement for member rank and forum members must get merit from quality posts to rank up.

Merit & new rank requirements
FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit

[Obim34]

I don't know how you get to know about this forum and the purpose at which you have in mind. The forum is much bigger than what you think, merits are just rewards for your good contribution to the forum, trust me with creating this kind of thread you surely still have a long way to go.

I'm not a new member, I've been on this forum for quite some time now even though in active.

Your account was created on the 5th of July 2022 which is about 1 year and months, at the date of this creation not even a single post was made and you were inactive, so don't claim to know while you know nothing, if at all you knew you would not have thought about creating a thread like this.

[Luzin]

One of the things that both real and obviously fake newbies (like you) are getting wrong about merit is that you have to share guides and appear as know it all in order to het merit, while in fact you can also earn merit by by asking the right questions and being genuinely interested in bitcoin.

Maybe the newbies just have to start a lot according to their expertise and write about it here. It seems original and interesting. There seems to be no need to be afraid of being wrong, as many will confirm. I used to start with this kind of thing too. Writing on the basis of personal experience.
Asking questions about Bitcoin is also quite interesting, but I don't see many questions getting a merit reward. Although the truth is that questions from people who don't understand will make the discussion more colorful and interesting. I also asked because I have limited knowledge. Not all topics I can know well.

[Lucius]

But I think what they might be confused about is the idea of quality, which would have been simplified aa helpful. From my long term observation on this forum I have come to realise that the merit system isn't bias in any way and merit goes to those that are making helpful contributions to the forum, be it by Comments or making a thread.
With this point noted I think the next question should be, WHAT DOES THIS FORUM CONSIDER AS HELPFUL OR QUALITY POST?
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If you've been watching the forum for a long time, then you should have already come to the conclusion what it can be considered a quality post, but you also have to know that the concept of quality is something that not everyone experiences in the same way. Some post that according to your criteria is of high quality and helps you, may not be in that category for others. The reason may be that the content of that post is something they have already read many times, or even that it is plagiarism or an AI generated post.

What you completely overlooked is that many members appreciate posts that are in some way funny, cynical or ironic and in themselves do not have the quality you are talking about. At the end of the day, the point is that you are unique and that you are really interested in what you are writing about on the forum, because otherwise you are just one more spammer in a sea of spammers who become irrelevant.

[BIT-BENDER]

Well going by the body of your post, that is certainly you claiming to know it all but you don't have the merit to back it up, you are a newbie, I don't care how large your knowledge about crypto-currency is that doesn't change the fact that you are a newbie and you idea about merit is not rigid.
My advice to you and many newbies like you is don't frustrate yourself finding out about merit, there are merit sources out there watch posts so all you have to do it post wisely and helpful posts.

[GiftedMAN]

Op you can still summarize all what you written in five lines and still make sense don't you think so? you trying to talk about the mistakes of newbies and correcting them while your topic is still centered on what you want to correct makes no sense to me because there's no difference between you and them. Why not talk about something else since so many newbies have been talking about merits merits merits, stop making things look difficult for you since you already know what do do to be appreciated go ahead and do your research, come up with a quality post and see if anyone will criticize your work, you can't teach what you don't know and you can't give what you don't have I think you need to know all this before advising newbies again.

[Nheer]

Of all the ideas in the world why do newbie always come to the forum and create posts about merit? This could only mean it is the only thing on their mind.

They need to understand growing is natural and it can only follow through after gaining enough knowledge and not by teaching their fellow newbies how to earn merit or how to create quality posts. If you understand the concept of quality post then you should have created a post already full of merits.

👉 Firstly I'll say STOP BEING SO MERIT CONCIOUS

This post proves you already breaking your own rule above by being merit conscious.