Trustdice: Terrible sportsbook, 5x! wager to withdraw

[yahoo62278]

Did you read the ToS before depositing or did you just make an account and deposit. I'm not an employee of trustdice, but this could look like a competitor site leaving a piss poor review.

You may just be a gambler, but had you read their terms you may have opted not to deposit there. Not sure why you wouldn't choose 1 of the more well known books to wager sports

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[Oilacris]

Well, that x5 wager is in their terms, point 5.1, but i think that's an abuse too. Moves like that are not to avoid money laundering, is to avoid the users from withdrawing. But is the decision of the users of play here or not, i personally don't like those terms of service, the fact that the max withdrawal each day is $5,000 and $15,000/weeks is another rape for users, if you get a big win you will not even be able to take the money, so, there are multiple reasons to avoid this casino.

Yes, it is really just that too much on which having that kind of 5x requirement or wagering rollover would really be just likely that they are really that prohibiting players to cashout on which it is really just that obvious. I dont have any experience on playing on trustdice though but if this is the numbers that we are talking then i wont get surprised if tons of players would really be
that flocking out into this site.It isnt really just that justfiable with this kind of terms and conditions when it comes to deposits on which it is really that too much.
Pretty sure that most sportsbook wont really be having this kind of requirement.

[tamadeus]

I have taken no bonus, nor won anything. I just noticed after i deposited that the sportsbook is insanely slow and unresponsive, its just a huge hassle to deal with. Therefore i want to just withdraw my money and never use that site again.

Please show me 1 man that reads the full TOS of any website. You expect the casinos to have quite similar TOS, as you would do for rules in real casinos. But here they will hold your money longer than anyone else.

[yahoo62278]

I have taken no bonus, nor won anything. I just noticed after i deposited that the sportsbook is insanely slow and unresponsive, its just a huge hassle to deal with. Therefore i want to just withdraw my money and never use that site again.

Please show me 1 man that reads the full TOS of any website. You expect the casinos to have quite similar TOS, as you would do for rules in real casinos. But here they will hold your money longer than anyone else.

If you didn't read the sites tos than you cannot complain when it wasn't what you expected. The terms are there for your convenience so that you know what the site expects from you and what you can expect from a site. I agree that 99.9% of users do not read a site's tos, but that's not the site's fault.

[bitbollo]

if this amount is not linked to their "deposit bonus" it's pretty strange such wager requirement (never seen before in many many years and others bookmakers).
Of course if they detail in their ToS there isn't too much that can be done but of course this is not the best option for any kind of player

[3kpk3]

The Trustdice representative already addressed this concern.  If we happen to read the reply by acroman08, he posted a quoted reply of the representative of trustdice regarding this 5x wagering requirement, and it stated that the 5x wagering requirement applies only on the first deposit.  The succeeding deposit does not require any wagering requirement at all.  If we come to think it his kind of implementation, this is way better than any other casinos that always require 1x wagering requirement.

So I think I won't make any big deal out of this concern.  If we don't want this kind of wagering requirement, we can always opt out and look for other sportsbook that meets our likings.

I don't understand the logic behind this move to be frank. First deposit requiring X5 wagering requirement sucks, but it's alright considering the fact that there are no wagering requirements on subsequent deposits.

However, how the heck would they tackle money laundering after the first deposit? This site could become a great portal for money launderers.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

The Trustdice representative already addressed this concern.  If we happen to read the reply by acroman08, he posted a quoted reply of the representative of trustdice regarding this 5x wagering requirement, and it stated that the 5x wagering requirement applies only on the first deposit.  The succeeding deposit does not require any wagering requirement at all.  If we come to think it his kind of implementation, this is way better than any other casinos that always require 1x wagering requirement.

So I think I won't make any big deal out of this concern.  If we don't want this kind of wagering requirement, we can always opt out and look for other sportsbook that meets our likings.

I don't understand the logic behind this move to be frank. First deposit requiring X5 wagering requirement sucks, but it's alright considering the fact that there are no wagering requirements on subsequent deposits.

However, how the heck would they tackle money laundering after the first deposit? This site could become a great portal for money launderers.

I don't see the point of that at all. If it's to avoid money laundering there should be a wagering requirement on every deposit, but what's the point of 5x on the first one and none on the rest? If I want people to lose track of some funds I have, I make a minimum first deposit on the site, and the rest I deposit and withdraw without wagering.

[AbuBhakar]

I have taken no bonus, nor won anything. I just noticed after i deposited that the sportsbook is insanely slow and unresponsive, its just a huge hassle to deal with. Therefore i want to just withdraw my money and never use that site again.

Please show me 1 man that reads the full TOS of any website. You expect the casinos to have quite similar TOS, as you would do for rules in real casinos. But here they will hold your money longer than anyone else.

Using find in page function to easily read the part of ToS which you really need to read such as Wagering Requirements and Restricted Country doesn’t take much of your time instead of depositing immediately and complain later.

Besides, You can browse the casino first without depositing real balance before you play since you can experience already how their sportsbook run and decide whether it’s slow or not for you. Yeah the x5 wagering requirements is too high but that’s their terms and it’s your problem now for depositing without reading their terms. You should lock now this thread because you knew already what’s the community answer to your thread.

[Jawhead999]

Please show me 1 man that reads the full TOS of any website. You expect the casinos to have quite similar TOS, as you would do for rules in real casinos. But here they will hold your money longer than anyone else.

You don't have to read the whole text, just focus on the information that you want to know. Example you want to know the wagering requirement, open the TOS, Ctrl F, search "wagering" "rollover" "wager" etc, if you still not find it, contact their live chat.

Their house, their rules, if you don't happy with that you're free to gamble on other casinos.

[Synchronice]

Did you read the ToS before depositing or did you just make an account and deposit. I'm not an employee of trustdice, but this could look like a competitor site leaving a piss poor review.

Why should this review come from a competitor site? Won't 5x wager upset any normal human? He doesn't wear any signature also to use that upset as an advantage and promote competitor.
It's true that users should read ToS but we all know that no one reads that at some point business has to understand that and don't put surprises into their ToS. What if they put in their ToS that by signing you agree to become a slave of Trustdice owner for the rest of your life? If they put this in their ToS and I sign up, should I be ready when they call me out? There are things that you can write in ToS and there are some ethics too. Why don't they promote 5x wagering on their mange page?

Original:

Mind-blowing bonuses. Zero withdrawal fees. Flash-like customer support

What about this version?

Mind blowing 5x wagering requirement on your first deposit. Zero withdrawal fees (but you have to wager 5 times). Flash-lie customer support

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C'mon, wagering requirement for normal deposits are not done to prevent money laundering but to retain deposits.

[rodskee]

Well, i guess the title says it all. Their sportsbook is extremely slow, and you have to login, and out if the odds have moved. If you dont, you will just get an error. Ive never experienced this before.

Low and behold, you actually have to wager your deposit 5! times before you can withdraw. Sadly this will take years if you prefer sports, as its definitly the worst you will encounter on the web these days.

So if you like sports, dont deposit here. Any other bookie in here has a more functional sportsbook.

THIS IS NOT A SCAM ACCUSATION.

since this is not a scam accusation means just a warning for those who wanted to
expect more from trustdice?  well you can choose what and where to gamble and if you think
this is not what makes you comfortable then you are free to choose other sites as given by
others above, gamble from the sites that you fully trusted and that will makes you completely
enjoying.

[Cryptock]

Did you read the ToS before depositing or did you just make an account and deposit. I'm not an employee of trustdice, but this could look like a competitor site leaving a piss poor review.

He doesn't wear any signature also to use that upset as an advantage and promote competitor.

In your opinion, someone must have a signature with the casino's name to be competitor?
There are a huge number of people on this forum who constantly create negative stories about casinos. I wonder how many of them are dissatisfied users and how many were invented by the competitors..

[Coinbox1]

Hello everyone!

Happy holidays and I m just back from the vacation.

It seems there is a major misunderstanding here that many people are being misled into believing that we enforce 5x wager requirement on all deposits:

X5 wagering requirement? That's messed up in so many ways. There are so many popular options out there that need you to just wager X1 of your deposit in order to withdraw which is way more practical and realistic.

Absolutely. That is one crazy high wagering requirement.  Five times the deposit? Come on now and  you'd think the casino wants to make darn near impossible to actually cash out any winnings.  

Yeah the x5 wagering requirements is too high

5x wager is just a means of telling the gambler they want you to wager until you lose it all.

Yes, it is really just that too much on which having that kind of 5x requirement or wagering rollover would really be just likely that they are really that prohibiting players to cashout on which it is really just that obvious.

This is simply not true. As we have previously addressed, 5x wager requirement only applies to the first deposit:

5.10 In order to make a withdrawal, a player must wager at least 5x the 1st deposit amount from deposits.

As shield132 and 3kpk3 has already pointed out, you will have no wager requirement at all for your 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 100th deposit. This is a lot more lenient compared to some other crypto casinos who require wager requirement on all deposits. This is what some other crypto casinos require:
"Any deposit has to be wagered 3 times before the withdrawal"
"Any deposit has to be wagered 3 times before the withdrawal"
"The deposit has 1× wagering requirement on casino games and 3× wagering requirement on sports betting"
Source

Regarding the speed issue that u saw, OP please feel free to reach out to our live support on the site and our support will see what they can do to help. It is a matter that involves too many factors including your own local internet connectivity. Nevertheless, we do have ongoing dev initiatives to minimize loading speed on various pages.


Wish everyone a happy new year!

TrustDice Team

[Finestream]

5.10 In order to make a withdrawal, a player must wager at least 5x the 1st deposit amount from deposits.

I think this is quite reasonable though and it's not really a burden since it's just on the first deposit, every site has their rules, so reading it before signing up makes it easier for us.

I just want to ask for another clarrification. Let's say I deposited $100, does it mean that my total wager should reach at least  $500 in order for my withdrawal to be allowed? Or it's just okay to wager half of $100 which is $50 for $10 each, and then if I lose, I can still make a withdrawal of the remaining $50, is it possible?

[panjul07]

I just want to ask for another clarrification. Let's say I deposited $100, does it mean that my total wager should reach at least  $500 in order for my withdrawal to be allowed? Or it's just okay to wager half of $100 which is $50 for $10 each, and then if I lose, I can still make a withdrawal of the remaining $50, is it possible?

I think the terms in trustdice is clear enough, the 5x wagering requirement applies for the 1st deposit only.
Lets say your $100 is your first deposit, you have to wager it 5x first before you are allowed to withdraw.
Even if you win $200 in just few tens dollar wager, you will not be able to withdraw because you have not wager 5x.
The same applies when you are on losing, you deposit $100 and lose $50 but you have not wagered $500, you wont be able to withdraw your $50.

[Wiwo]

I have taken no bonus, nor won anything. I just noticed after i deposited that the sportsbook is insanely slow and unresponsive, its just a huge hassle to deal with. Therefore i want to just withdraw my money and never use that site again.

Please show me 1 man that reads the full TOS of any website. You expect the casinos to have quite similar TOS, as you would do for rules in real casinos. But here they will hold your money longer than anyone else.

If you didn't read the sites tos than you cannot complain when it wasn't what you expected. The terms are there for your convenience so that you know what the site expects from you and what you can expect from a site. I agree that 99.9% of users do not read a site's tos, but that's not the site's fault.

The inability of some gamblers to read the tos of the casino have resulted into a lot of problems and as long as the casino already have a rule stipulated in the tos wether or not the player read them it doesn't concern the casino since their already design their template to operate within the stipulated rules and regulation.

So it is left for the player to read the tos for their benefit and good to know how best to get through with the casino,  and that is why it is called rule anyways it is meant to guide your activities on the casino is either you accept them or walk away.

[kotajikikox]

THIS IS NOT A SCAM ACCUSATION.

With saying this mate , meaning you are just annoyed by their service but have nothing to do with scamming and making any troubles from their players?
Trustdice have been in the forum for such a long now and yeah gambling sites may face issues but at least not those kind of serious one that will make them scam or such a bad example to make players keep distance from them?

[Finestream]

I just want to ask for another clarrification. Let's say I deposited $100, does it mean that my total wager should reach at least  $500 in order for my withdrawal to be allowed? Or it's just okay to wager half of $100 which is $50 for $10 each, and then if I lose, I can still make a withdrawal of the remaining $50, is it possible?

I think the terms in trustdice is clear enough, the 5x wagering requirement applies for the 1st deposit only.
Lets say your $100 is your first deposit, you have to wager it 5x first before you are allowed to withdraw.
Even if you win $200 in just few tens dollar wager, you will not be able to withdraw because you have not wager 5x.
The same applies when you are on losing, you deposit $100 and lose $50 but you have not wagered $500, you wont be able to withdraw your $50.

Then I think it's not wise to start with a big amount of money if we think of withdrawing afterwards. Maybe $10 wager will do, and if that I lose $10, the first deposit requirement is already consume, meaning on the 2nd deposit, it will not be covered with wagering requirement anymore and I will be able to withdraw anytime I want.

Some site also based on my experience, there's no wagering requirement, but the moment you deposit your funds, let's say $100, you have to wager them all before you can make a withdrawal. When I asks the live support, they mentioned that it is to preven money laundering which is understandable.

[arwin100]

Well, i guess the title says it all. Their sportsbook is extremely slow, and you have to login, and out if the odds have moved. If you dont, you will just get an error. Ive never experienced this before.

Low and behold, you actually have to wager your deposit 5! times before you can withdraw. Sadly this will take years if you prefer sports, as its definitly the worst you will encounter on the web these days.

So if you like sports, dont deposit here. Any other bookie in here has a more functional sportsbook.

THIS IS NOT A SCAM ACCUSATION.

I know that you are frustrated upon seeing that rule but did you bother to spend some minutes to read their TOS? if not then maybe there's something wrong in your part for not noticing that requirement since if you just read that in first place for sure that you will never get frustrated that much and can decide on whether you accept that or pass then move to other casino which you think the rules is fair base on your personal preference.

Honestly this post cannot get something beneficial at your end but rather to many people will remind you to read the casino TOS so that you would know many information about what they are implementing on their casino.

But still this is a good lesson to learn from and for sure you learn a lot from this incident.

[Cantsay]

As shield132 and 3kpk3 has already pointed out, you will have no wager requirement at all for your 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 100th deposit. This is a lot more lenient compared to some other crypto casinos who require wager requirement on all deposits.

This is okay.

I have never used Trustdice before, I only created an account there when the op created this thread so that I can check if I truly need to login and out before I could get odds changes but mine worked just fine so it might have been the fault of the internet service provider of the Op.

And concerning the odds, it seems like that op was too quick to judge since he only deposited once and after discovering the 5x wagering requirements he didn’t even skim through the ToS to see if there’s any additional info. Btw, thanks for this info it’s going to help provide an accurate answer if something like this should happen again in the future.