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January 16, 2024, 09:10:52 AM
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whether you use crypto or not, gambling is still gambling, and both christianity and islam forbid gambling, but even so, there are still many people who continue to gamble because they think that gambling is not a serious sin which makes their god very angry with them, so they keep doing that. moreover, whether to gamble or not is a matter for an individual and his or her religion, there is no need to worry too much about it, if you feel guilty because you have gambled you can stop, or you can continue if you think that it is not too big of a sin.
Whether not to gamble or gamble is up to each person's decision, so even though their religion has declared it forbidden, people will still gamble. They know that gambling is prohibited but they still gamble because they say that they can still control themselves and there have been no problems with their gambling activities to date. Yes, it is each person's personal matter if they continue to gamble and other people will not be able to stop them from doing so. But people can advise them to stop gambling or place limits on their gambling games so that they don't experience any problems. One day, maybe those people will be enlightened about gambling so they can realize what they are doing. And if that happens, they will start to abandon gambling and never return at any time.

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January 17, 2024, 03:23:24 PM
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I really agree with you, this topic is actually a bit sensitive because we are talking about religion and gambling, the Muslim religion strictly prohibits gambling for certain reasons and I think other religions also actually have their own rules regarding prohibitions against anything that causes sin. In fact, not only gambling, even drinking alcohol, smoking in Muslims is a haram act, but for some people, even though they are Muslims, they are still determined to do it even though it is against the rules of their religion. I don't mean to offend Muslims, but where I live, the majority are Muslims. and they still do whatever they like whether drinking alcohol, gambling or smoking because they like doing that even though it is against them but the one who bears the sin is themselves so we just need to live our lives happily. Because casinos also don't care about religious laws Muslims are not allowed to gamble because crypto gambling is done by people who want to use it only with their own money and the most important thing is not to harm other people and do not bring religion into the world of gambling.

And in the end this does not lie in the issue of halal and haram, because the provisions are clear and they know it..!!! that they fully know the laws of the actions they carry out (gambling). Maybe for those who have a strong foundation of belief and adherence to things that are prohibited by religion, then of course they never decide to enter the world of gambling, in fact, such an approach is something that is impossible for them to do, because they really can't do that. they truly protect themselves from all forms of immorality and evil.

And when talking about casinos, I think casinos never force someone to visit and come to their place, casinos only provide forms of offers, the rest is up to each individual. And it's not that you shouldn't link religious issues with gambling, because after all religion is what regulates all forms of human life and daily life. It's just that in this case, not all religions do not allow gambling and not all people have a religion. We just believe what we believe and let other people believe what they believe. And if we believe that gambling is something wrong, then immediately stop this activity and never invite other people to make the same mistake.

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January 17, 2024, 04:24:34 PM
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And when talking about casinos, I think casinos never force someone to visit and come to their place, casinos only provide forms of offers, the rest is up to each individual. And it's not that you shouldn't link religious issues with gambling, because after all religion is what regulates all forms of human life and daily life. It's just that in this case, not all religions do not allow gambling and not all people have a religion. We just believe what we believe and let other people believe what they believe. And if we believe that gambling is something wrong, then immediately stop this activity and never invite other people to make the same mistake.
Yes, it's true that casinos never force anyone to play there looking for entertainment or just having fun, but sometimes many people abuse the casino itself where most people start to think that the casino is a place to make money so they prefer to spend their money there just to get money. winnings or jackpots, that may be one of the reasons why religion prohibits it because they spend more time having fun in gambling places than using their money to support their families or other positive things.

In many cases, gambling causes people to get into debt, commit suicide, steal, commit other criminal acts, break up households and similar negative impacts from gambling itself, but this cannot be separated from the mindset of those who gamble for money, not just for entertainment. Of course, therefore, all mistakes lie with each individual, not with the casino entirely, even though religion only teaches its followers to limit themselves from everything that is not useful and has a bad impact on them.

But here we also can't defend anyone, everyone has the right to choose to gamble, so if you believe that religion forbids it, don't gamble, but if you believe that religion allows it, then feel free to gamble as long as the risk is borne by yourself and you can control yourself well.  Cheesy

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January 17, 2024, 04:35:12 PM
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Whether not to gamble or gamble is up to each person's decision, so even though their religion has declared it forbidden, people will still gamble. They know that gambling is prohibited but they still gamble because they say that they can still control themselves and there have been no problems with their gambling activities to date.

With its about religion, its not about controlling your emotions in gambling or similar things like that, the religion ban the gambling and you cannot justify that since you will be a responsible gambler, it is allowed for you.  People whose religion prohibits them from gambling, they are not allowed to gamble, no matter what is the situation.

Yes, it is each person's personal matter if they continue to gamble and other people will not be able to stop them from doing so. But people can advise them to stop gambling or place limits on their gambling games so that they don't experience any problems. One day, maybe those people will be enlightened about gambling so they can realize what they are doing. And if that happens, they will start to abandon gambling and never return at any time.

Again, for the religious people, there is nothing as a personal matter. If something is prohibited in religion, they have to accept it without arguments and if they deny it or do not follow it, then it means that they are violating their religion and may be held accountable for that.
Although no one in the world will give them punishment for not obeying the religion but still they will have to give answers to their God as why they did not obey the religion.

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January 17, 2024, 04:38:34 PM
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I don't really like this kind of discussion linking religion with gambling because it might get to a point where we are urging others who are not into gambling yet. They might think it's right to go against their tradition, beliefs, and rules.
Well, in my opinion, it's up to each individual on how strong his/her belief is. It is true that most Catholics and Christians are not that serious about the order of the Bible about gambling, no disrespect to those who still follow them but that is a fact. Muslims on the other hand are strict about this so they are not easily swayed even if there's a chance that they can go away with it using cryptocurrencies. Those who have faith that whatever they do is being seen by their God will still hold themselves and not follow these urges.
Sure, it is an inviting feat because they can take away the traces of gambling but like I said, faith is something that cannot be seen but the truth will still be there if they will gamble. What will be left to them is their conscience that will be more difficult to carry.

Most of them at this age, when it comes to religious issues, really don't like gambling, and in the doctrine of the majority of the religion, they teach that gambling is bad, and this has become a habit among most of their members.

I have also planted in my mind that gambling is bad, and I agree with this teaching because gambling does not really bring anything good because the money we put into it is usually wasted unless you suddenly get lucky and win. a large amount, but this rarely happens.



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January 17, 2024, 05:23:15 PM
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I don't really like this kind of discussion linking religion with gambling because it might get to a point where we are urging others who are not into gambling yet. They might think it's right to go against their tradition, beliefs, and rules.
Well, in my opinion, it's up to each individual on how strong his/her belief is. It is true that most Catholics and Christians are not that serious about the order of the Bible about gambling, no disrespect to those who still follow them but that is a fact. Muslims on the other hand are strict about this so they are not easily swayed even if there's a chance that they can go away with it using cryptocurrencies. Those who have faith that whatever they do is being seen by their God will still hold themselves and not follow these urges.
Sure, it is an inviting feat because they can take away the traces of gambling but like I said, faith is something that cannot be seen but the truth will still be there if they will gamble. What will be left to them is their conscience that will be more difficult to carry.

Most of them at this age, when it comes to religious issues, really don't like gambling, and in the doctrine of the majority of the religion, they teach that gambling is bad, and this has become a habit among most of their members.

I have also planted in my mind that gambling is bad, and I agree with this teaching because gambling does not really bring anything good because the money we put into it is usually wasted unless you suddenly get lucky and win. a large amount, but this rarely happens.
Im much aware about into those certain or couple of religions who do really have that kind of treatment or views towards gambling but well lets just respect on what these religions do have
those kind of prohibitions and if we are someone whose really that under that religion then it would really be just that right that we should follow not unless if you are really that going
against into that principle then it would be your choice. Tons of people does have that kind of committing those kind of acts on which they are really that doing gambling despite of being prohibited.
This is common and casual but it turns out that not all would really be having that kind of obedience when it comes to this, well its their choice to make not ours.

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January 17, 2024, 05:52:01 PM
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Talking with someone that is Muslim yesterday, it was suggested to me that many Muslims around the world might be using crypto to circumvent the strict treatment of gambling in predominantly Muslim countries.

It was an interesting concept to consider that since crypto can be used to conceal your spending, it is probably also used by people who want to gamble to avoid the consequences based on religious practices.

In my opinion, if you're a Muslim and gambling will be a sin in your country, you shouldn't gamble so you don't get stereotype and punished for disobeying the laws of your religion. You can change religion to Christianity so you can enjoy gambling without being scared of getting criticized. Using cryptocurrency to gamble also counts as gambling as cryptocurrency are money and you'll be receiving money when you win therefore it qualifies.

Gambling isn't bad, when you over do it and get addicted that's when it's bad as it can destroy you and also affect other individuals that are around you. Your family members will get affected and it can destroy your relationship with them. If you can control yourself while you're gambling, I don't think any religions should stop you from gambling as you're not hurting anybody when you're gambling therefore it shouldn't be a sin.

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January 17, 2024, 05:55:41 PM
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Most of them at this age, when it comes to religious issues, really don't like gambling, and in the doctrine of the majority of the religion, they teach that gambling is bad, and this has become a habit among most of their members.


The funny thing is that despite that it is condemned in the religious books but some people who preach against it still gamble in secret. I know of someone who is religious but can't control his gambling urge so he does it in secret so that people will not know about it because he tells them to stop gambling and that is deceit.

I have also planted in my mind that gambling is bad, and I agree with this teaching because gambling does not really bring anything good because the money we put into it is usually wasted unless you suddenly get lucky and win. a large amount, but this rarely happens.

Some people that are making money from gambling will not agree with you that it doesn't bring money , that the money that goes into it is waste of money. They will see it that you are gambling in the wrong way. But really, in every adventure we take there are people who complain about it unproductivity while others benefit from it. So I believe if you take the right part in the things like gambling then we can reduce our loses and improve on our gains. But the point is to gamble as you can risk and if it is not working for you, quitting isn't a sign of weakness but a decision to be better.

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January 17, 2024, 06:08:55 PM
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So what do you think about this? Does gambling with crypto mean that laws about gambling being Haram don't apply all the time?

The issue of haram or not and its consequences are not worldly matters, they bind the individual to his god, so this has nothing to do with the laws that exist in a country. If we talk about Muslims, AFAIK (based on what I see in my country because my country is predominantly Muslim) these gambling practitioners are aware and know that their gambling actions are haram. But in order to hide their tracks, they prefer to use crypto rather than FIAT in the form of e-money.

Have you got the point I mean?

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January 17, 2024, 06:15:24 PM
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I don't really like this kind of discussion linking religion with gambling because it might get to a point where we are urging others who are not into gambling yet. They might think it's right to go against their tradition, beliefs, and rules.
Well, in my opinion, it's up to each individual on how strong his/her belief is. It is true that most Catholics and Christians are not that serious about the order of the Bible about gambling, no disrespect to those who still follow them but that is a fact. Muslims on the other hand are strict about this so they are not easily swayed even if there's a chance that they can go away with it using cryptocurrencies. Those who have faith that whatever they do is being seen by their God will still hold themselves and not follow these urges.
Sure, it is an inviting feat because they can take away the traces of gambling but like I said, faith is something that cannot be seen but the truth will still be there if they will gamble. What will be left to them is their conscience that will be more difficult to carry.

Most of them at this age, when it comes to religious issues, really don't like gambling, and in the doctrine of the majority of the religion, they teach that gambling is bad, and this has become a habit among most of their members.

I have also planted in my mind that gambling is bad, and I agree with this teaching because gambling does not really bring anything good because the money we put into it is usually wasted unless you suddenly get lucky and win. a large amount, but this rarely happens.

Gambling is not bad, it is the gamblers that are abusing it. All these religious books where all the religious laws and doctrines are enshrined were written by people to ensure that their followers be at peace with themselves and their neighbours as well. Gambling is tagged bad because people tend to take extreme measures just to gamble, especially as this lifestyle is linked to greed. It is believed that it is only greed that will motivate one to want to reap from where they did not sow, hence, all forms of unexplained money doubling schemes, including gambling are discouraged.  For this reasons,  teachings like this are passed down from generation to generation dissuading their followers from gambling.

Now, people are aware of all the implications of gambling recklessly.  Those who gamble recklessly are the bad guys giving  gambling the bad name. Those who just want to have fun  have nothing to lose and if they win , that's their luck. There is nothing wrong with responsible gambling.

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January 17, 2024, 08:42:39 PM
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As far as I know no religion in the world supports gambling. All religions consider gambling as a criminal activity. No matter what religion you belong to, your religion will never allow you to gamble. Many times religious discussions say that gambling creates financial crisis and causes many harms to people. Especially in Islam, all kinds of betting or gambling are absolutely forbidden. I am a Muslim and from my side I would like to say that although Islam prohibits gambling, thousands of Muslims are active in gambling. No matter what religion says gamblers will gamble it's normal. Not all gamblers consider gambling to be a serious crime. Rather, gambling is preferred as a source of pleasure.

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January 17, 2024, 09:43:06 PM
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All holy books wrote things about Gambling such as :
(Matt. 6:24) : You cannot serve both God and money
This writing is about money, not gambling. And it says about serving money, while it doesn't condemn the usage and persuit of money by human beings. Solely by gambling or by looking for means to thrive financially in life doesn't mean we are serving money, but that we are making money to serve us on our needs aiming life quality and personal development.

Gambling for them it ruins your spirit and makes you a bad person, lead to social and economic harms. To me simply, religions are avoiding anything that has a risk of bad things, an example in Islam with Alcohol since it’s something that can make you addicted, so it’s totally haram and forbidden to even smell it.
Everything in excess and without rules ruin your spirit and lead to social and economical issues. Even good things God created can ruin us if we don't know how to use them, as they were supposed to be used in first place. Sex is an example of that.

Free individuals should make use of their free will to walk through the paths which will bring healthy and uplifting consequences for their lives, without becoming slaves of religions, which have as goal to shear the natural inclinations of the spirit, through the dogmas they perpetrate on people's minds. These dogmas just kill the natural inclinations of the spirit for self-realization, while at same time we don't even have sure if such dogmas are really demanded by God.

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So what do you think about this? Does gambling with crypto mean that laws about gambling being Haram don't apply all the time?
I was thinking that of crypto is earned outside of one's regular job, for example as a reward for activities such as bounties or sweepstakes, then maybe gambling with these earnings insta Haram?
It’s funny how the human mind often finds a justification for just about doing the wrong thing under some ethics or rules.
Am not categorically saying gambling is wrong, nope, not in my religion but, if by Muslim laws of Haram doesn’t justify gambling to be something that should be practiced by Muslims then, the context to this is in what gambling actually is and not in the currency or event being gambled upon.
Should you be making stakes in bets with hopes of a win or a lose, you’re actually gambling and that ends it.

Now, these laws or rules to gambling might have been some means to avoid its faithful from being compromised or violence and other vices that might be associated with the practice when not done responsibly but, it ain’t wrong. If you can regulate yourself, you’re good but, the law wouldn’t look it at that way though.
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I think we humans would always seek out and do whatever pleases us despite having to face the harsh judgement passed down by society if found out.
Gambling is no different. There are various cultures and religions that frown upon gambling as an activity to partake in. That hasn’t stopped some people from such cultures and religions from gambling.
Crypto along with online casinos has made it easier to be more private in your gambling activity hence attracting gamblers who would rather keep their activities secret.

Being mentally stable, we’re all aware of what’s good and what’s bad. Religion shouldn’t dictate how anyone should live their lives.
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 #115

It's funny how this chaos would have total control over people's lives, properties, well-being, personal choices and space, relationship, attitude etc... how it's condemning some certain tribe, nation or group of people that chose to live outrightly and specifically by their own discretion... That's exactly why I chose not to believe innit.. to me, there's nothing like RELIGION - It's diversity has forged in so many problems and has arisen to many tribal wars too.

IMHO, except they really wanna abide by their laws, they shouldn't be any reason why a person from any tribe or religion should be abstaining from gambling. If they're making off some cool money from it, why not go ahead?

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Im much aware about into those certain or couple of religions who do really have that kind of treatment or views towards gambling but well lets just respect on what these religions do have
those kind of prohibitions and if we are someone whose really that under that religion then it would really be just that right that we should follow not unless if you are really that going
against into that principle then it would be your choice. Tons of people does have that kind of committing those kind of acts on which they are really that doing gambling despite of being prohibited.
This is common and casual but it turns out that not all would really be having that kind of obedience when it comes to this, well its their choice to make not ours.

In fact, if we relate it to any religion or belief, especially the one most widely believed in by the world community.  there are many prohibitions, which do not allow it, not only gambling, crypto, and others like that. If someone is based on what he believes and what he adheres to, let's respect it with tolerance. however, if this is the case, it means that a person must comply with all prohibitions and not just gambling. So, we will not hold ourselves to double standards. "for those who adhere to their religion".

Talking about gambling, gambling has been found since ancient times in almost every corner of the world and one of the things that is often discussed is from ancient China. Gambling has evolved from era to era, traditional ones have changed with the advancement of time and technology, as well as human resources themselves. In this era, gambling has become part of instant entertainment amidst the glittering life of a metropolitan city. what are the benefits, yeah to entertain visitors. however, this type of entertainment is quite risky and expensive.

Now, the digital era and technology dominate the market. however, in principle, gambling in the current era is more of a type of entertainment but has risks involved. If we relate it to belief or religion, believe me, the discussion will never end, even in debate. after all, we are humans who always break the rules. In essence, it all comes down to each individual assessing gambling from their point of view. if it is negative, then what comes to mind are bad things. But if it's entertainment, then what you think about is something that entertains. Regardless of winning or losing, gambling houses, online casinos, never tell us to be directly involved in gambling. So, just enjoy it if you like this activity without harming anyone. on the contrary, ignore it as far as possible if it is detrimental. yeah, it's that simple.

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It's funny how this chaos would have total control over people's lives, properties, well-being, personal choices and space, relationship, attitude etc... how it's condemning some certain tribe, nation or group of people that chose to live outrightly and specifically by their own discretion... That's exactly why I chose not to believe innit.. to me, there's nothing like RELIGION - It's diversity has forged in so many problems and has arisen to many tribal wars too.

IMHO, except they really wanna abide by their laws, they shouldn't be any reason why a person from any tribe or religion should be abstaining from gambling. If they're making off some cool money from it, why not go ahead?

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i guess, it all boils down to how strong is your belief to abide the laws and protocols of your religion. because the truth is, it is your own volition if you will sincerely follow such beliefs and live with it. for me, as long as you are not harming anyone, there's nothing wrong in having some kind of fun from time to time in gambling. after all, those written "laws" were just created by man. and so for me, it is just a bias understanding of how you want to live your life by setting some standards.

As far as I know no religion in the world supports gambling. All religions consider gambling as a criminal activity. No matter what religion you belong to, your religion will never allow you to gamble. Many times religious discussions say that gambling creates financial crisis and causes many harms to people. Especially in Islam, all kinds of betting or gambling are absolutely forbidden. I am a Muslim and from my side I would like to say that although Islam prohibits gambling, thousands of Muslims are active in gambling. No matter what religion says gamblers will gamble it's normal. Not all gamblers consider gambling to be a serious crime. Rather, gambling is preferred as a source of pleasure.

thus, when you found yourself to be in the gambling world, it means, one way or another, you are breaking some of your religious beliefs, that is, if you happen to have a religion. but if you think you are not doing anything wrong as you live your life, then, there's nothing to worry. just make sure you are responsible for the consequences that you are about to take.


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Crypto gambling and religious restrictions damnnn finally there is a thread that discussed about crypto gambling and religion

I am Muslim and gambling is prohibited and it is already written down in the holy Quran Crypto itself is still debated by Muslim scholars, some say that crypto is halal in certain tokens/coins, and some say it is haram too.

but you can say that I am not a devout Muslim. and the money earned from gambling is haram and I saw several articles that, for example, if I win from gambling, I have to donate all the winnings to those who need it more, because even 1 cent is still haram money.

Now I do gamble for fun only and

I committed many sins including the do gambling and I am aware of that.  Cry

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January 18, 2024, 04:48:51 AM
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With its about religion, its not about controlling your emotions in gambling or similar things like that, the religion ban the gambling and you cannot justify that since you will be a responsible gambler, it is allowed for you.  People whose religion prohibits them from gambling, they are not allowed to gamble, no matter what is the situation.
Yes, it should be like that, but the reality is that people already know that their religion prohibits gambling, but they still gamble. They argue that they can control themselves while gambling and they also don't use a lot of money and only use gambling for fun. It will be up to them because everyone will be responsible for their actions.

Again, for the religious people, there is nothing as a personal matter. If something is prohibited in religion, they have to accept it without arguments and if they deny it or do not follow it, then it means that they are violating their religion and may be held accountable for that.
Although no one in the world will give them punishment for not obeying the religion but still they will have to give answers to their God as why they did not obey the religion.
People who obey the laws of their religion will not want to try things that are prohibited by their religion, including gambling. They can differentiate between what is permitted and what is prohibited by their religion. They know that they will be held responsible later, so they don't want to take any risks. After all, they already have other things that can also give them pleasure. Whatever they do, it will be their responsibility, so they will do things that should not be prohibited by their religion and distance themselves from things prohibited by their religion.

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Crypto gambling and religious restrictions damnnn finally there is a thread that discussed about crypto gambling and religion

I am Muslim and gambling is prohibited and it is already written down in the holy Quran Crypto itself is still debated by Muslim scholars, some say that crypto is halal in certain tokens/coins, and some say it is haram too.

but you can say that I am not a devout Muslim. and the money earned from gambling is haram and I saw several articles that, for example, if I win from gambling, I have to donate all the winnings to those who need it more, because even 1 cent is still haram money.

Now I do gamble for fun only and

I committed many sins including the do gambling and I am aware of that.  Cry

Do you still doing gambling? By any chance, I just want to know if you donate the money you won to those people who are more in need? since you said that it is stated in your holy qouran that it is haram, and even if you are not a devout muslim, do you still follow what is stated in the qouran? Now I know, that's why I know other muslims who's every time they win, they give away the money they won or they buy important things instead of saving the money itself, maybe you have the same reasons.



BIG WINNER!
[15.00000000 BTC]


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