Crypto gambling and religious restrictions

[topbitcoin]

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Yes, it's true that casinos never force anyone to play there looking for entertainment or just having fun, but sometimes many people abuse the casino itself where most people start to think that the casino is a place to make money so they prefer to spend their money there just to get money. winnings or jackpots, that may be one of the reasons why religion prohibits it because they spend more time having fun in gambling places than using their money to support their families or other positive things.

In many cases, gambling causes people to get into debt, commit suicide, steal, commit other criminal acts, break up households and similar negative impacts from gambling itself, but this cannot be separated from the mindset of those who gamble for money, not just for entertainment. Of course, therefore, all mistakes lie with each individual, not with the casino entirely, even though religion only teaches its followers to limit themselves from everything that is not useful and has a bad impact on them.

But here we also can't defend anyone, everyone has the right to choose to gamble, so if you believe that religion forbids it, don't gamble, but if you believe that religion allows it, then feel free to gamble as long as the risk is borne by yourself and you can control yourself well. 

Of course religion also prohibits it, this is not without reason behind this prohibition. Because let alone gambling, even overeating, religion strongly discourages it. What is clear is that religion prohibits gambling, because gambling can cause harm, which can not only harm oneself, but also the people around it who will be affected. And it's enough here for us to discuss religion and gambling, because these are rules and regulations that cannot be changed by humans. And of course, as ordinary humans, we cannot justify what is haram and vice versa. And we cannot justify gambling, just because we like it and feel happy when playing it.

And now let me talk about this. This is regardless of any religion that prohibits gambling. It is not gambling that is wrong, but we are the ones who are wrong in understanding gambling itself. We think that gambling can make us rich and that gambling can multiply the wealth we have. Which ultimately encourages us to behave carelessly by betting with all the money and wealth we have. And that carelessness also leads us to a loss that we regret. So without needing to link gambling to any religion, if it is not done well, then gambling will only cause losses.

[Casdinyard]

Again, it is actually unethical to discuss the issue of gambling with religion and link it, remember that gambling is personal and so is religion, so it is very important for us to respect other people's views on rules and morals.  i am also a Christian and really respect other Christians who don't gamble because they think gambling is bad behavior, i never feel like i'm right, i just gamble without harming myself, my family and also other people because some radical Christians said that gambling destroys a person's personality and also destroys his life so in my opinion as long as the person is able to manage his gambling activities well then it is legal.

I don't think the discussion is meant to point fingers and oust those who are found to gamble but as a smart discussion to draw the line between what's halal and what's haram in the Muslim Religious' context. Like for example a lot of these aforementioned Muslims gamble using crypto and are using crypto for other stuff that they would otherwise consider "haram" since it's not explicitly stated in the Quran and by their Sheikhs to be specifically illegal or whatnot. There's a healthy discussion to be had in this case, and I think knowing what it really falls under is something that they need to get a hold of as soon as possible so they can be prepared for when crypto really sinks its claws in our society.

Personally, and I know this doesn't mean that much since it doesn't come from someone of Islamic descent, but I think the use of crypto to facilitate such acts that you guys would otherwise claim to be "haram" is still considered haram regardless. It's like using a different currency, like the peso instead of the dollar, which at the end of the day renders you still liable to the consequences of such acts that are against your belief system. Would you eat pork bought using crypto? I don't think so. Would you work on hours of praying if you're getting paid in crypto anyway? I don't think so as well. It's just that easy to understand.

[bayu7adi]

So what do you think about this? Does gambling with crypto mean that laws about gambling being Haram don't apply all the time?
I was thinking that of crypto is earned outside of one's regular job, for example as a reward for activities such as bounties or sweepstakes, then maybe gambling with these earnings insta Haram?

Bruh.. what's considered haram is the act of gambling and the games, not the balance you use to play. Even if you bet on something other than money, it's still considered haram in Islam, and probably in other religions too.

Many people violate religious prohibitions these days, either out of boredom or because sinful things seem more enjoyable. If you find yourself getting too deep into the dark side, it might be time to start considering a balance between religious devotion and a life filled with sins.

[UmerIdrees]

Bruh.. what's considered haram is the act of gambling and the games, not the balance you use to play. Even if you bet on something other than money, it's still considered haram in Islam, and probably in other religions too.

Many people violate religious prohibitions these days, either out of boredom or because sinful things seem more enjoyable. If you find yourself getting too deep into the dark side, it might be time to start considering a balance between religious devotion and a life filled with sins.

When you say that something is Haram, then it is Haram. And whoever acts and does the sinful deeds will have to pay for its consequences in the life hereafter. This is not so simple that your religion prohibits gambling and you start to find excuses to make it lawful. If you belong to a religion that prohibits gambling like Islam, then even if the state allows gambling or you find the majority of the people to gamble, it does not become an excuse for you to gamble also.

If a handful of people do not gamble only because their religion prohibits it, then it is good for them in the world after this and it will make their life peaceful and also they will be blessed ones. The religion is the most important thing but very few people realize this in this modern digitial world.

[livingfree]

As always, a sensitive topic if it's related to religion. It's always about the division of people and beliefs if it's going to be regard on this matter.

The popular opinion is going to be it's always against the teachings of any religion. But anyone can start a religion nowadays and make their own belief that shall be followed by its followers.

But for the peace of mind someone, you do what you want to do without thinking if it's allowed or not. So, basically it is you that's going to judge your actions whether they're good or bad.

[Antotena]

Talking with someone that is Muslim yesterday, it was suggested to me that many Muslims around the world might be using crypto to circumvent the strict treatment of gambling in predominantly Muslim countries.

It was an interesting concept to consider that since crypto can be used to conceal your spending, it is probably also used by people who want to gamble to avoid the consequences based on religious practices.

Crypto is a currency and it serve as a medium of exchange I think and in Islam, using currency to gamble is really bad and a sin before God, there is no way that justify it as a good practice. Gambling doesn't have to be a involvement of currency in Islam before it can be consider

as a sin but even advertise it is also a sin. I have seen a Muslim person from this forum that reject a gambling signature because he feels it's sin before his creator and he is a Muslim, he is one of the forum staff I think

But the more interesting side of this is that some probably interpret gambling with crypto as permissible under religious rules. Not exactly 100% approved let's say but not explicitly forbidden either.

It's a sin in Islam to gambling. You what? Islam is a religion that is following the teaching of prophet mamad and not for Man to manipulate, if it's not allow then it's not allow.

So what do you think about this? Does gambling with crypto mean that laws about gambling being Haram don't apply all the time?
I was thinking that of crypto is earned outside of one's regular job, for example as a reward for activities such as bounties or sweepstakes, then maybe gambling with these earnings insta Haram?

Gambling is a sin before Allah subhana watala, there is no.way you will want to justify gambling Islam and anyone that practised it know this but God is a not a man. People who are Muslim that love gambling will gamble and nothing will happen, everyone will go and report to his creator one day.

[Kavelj22]

So what do you think about this? Does gambling with crypto mean that laws about gambling being Haram don't apply all the time?
I was thinking that of crypto is earned outside of one's regular job, for example as a reward for activities such as bounties or sweepstakes, then maybe gambling with these earnings insta Haram?

Bruh.. what's considered haram is the act of gambling and the games, not the balance you use to play. Even if you bet on something other than money, it's still considered haram in Islam, and probably in other religions too.

Many people violate religious prohibitions these days, either out of boredom or because sinful things seem more enjoyable. If you find yourself getting too deep into the dark side, it might be time to start considering a balance between religious devotion and a life filled with sins.

There are several possible reasons to explain the phenomenon of religious people who gamble even though their religions prohibit it. Possible reasons why religious people gamble include:
- Lack of understanding of religion: Some religious people may be unfamiliar with their religion's rulings regarding gambling, and may find it difficult to apply them.
- Weak faith: Some religious people may have weak faith, making them more likely to commit sins.
- Psychological pressures: Some religious people may practice gambling as a way to escape from the daily life psychological pressures they are exposed to.

[Weawant]

Gambling is not bad, it is the gamblers that are abusing it. All these religious books where all the religious laws and doctrines are enshrined were written by people to ensure that their followers be at peace with themselves and their neighbours as well.

Now, people are aware of all the implications of gambling recklessly.  Those who gamble recklessly are the bad guys giving  gambling the bad name. Those who just want to have fun  have nothing to lose and if they win , that's their luck. There is nothing wrong with responsible gambling.

The abuse of gamble by gamblers has bees the main reason most persons have rather seen gambling as evil or a very bad practice but then if these gamblers were responsible enough I doubt if these people out there would see gamble I'm the worng light and give it such condemnation as it's been given now.

On religious groups the major reason gambling nis usually been something religious bodies and people are against it is because they see it as a means of getting unjustifiable wealth quickly but then they fail to understand that for a professional gambler it's actually a job and they do commit a lot to it before some of them actually turns profitable from it especially when there's some discipline alongside strategy for winning I don't think at that point it should still be seen as a get rich quick scheme without a proper from as to how such wealth was gotten because for some one who has taken a good number of years and time to build such even with gambling didn't do that just quick without hard work

[Hispo]

As always, a sensitive topic if it's related to religion. It's always about the division of people and beliefs if it's going to be regard on this matter.

The popular opinion is going to be it's always against the teachings of any religion. But anyone can start a religion nowadays and make their own belief that shall be followed by its followers.

But for the peace of mind someone, you do what you want to do without thinking if it's allowed or not. So, basically it is you that's going to judge your actions whether they're good or bad.

Live and let to live, sort of approach.
Though, it is difficult to have such point of view on anything related to gambling when one lives in a society where it is not only stigmatized because the usual stereotypes of gamblers, but also because of religion. It would take a look at countries where there are governments which take a formal stand when comes to region and adopt one as their official one. Saudi Arabia comes to mind, so does Indonesia.
I suppose that in the end of the day, all is good as long as one is not hurting anyone, though some religious leaders will argue we are hurting ourselves when we engage in gambling.

Indeed a very difficult topic for a lot of people to agree on, since I am against totalitarian ideas and I believe in free will, I stand with the same ideas you stand by.

[decodx]

Bruh.. what's considered haram is the act of gambling and the games, not the balance you use to play. Even if you bet on something other than money, it's still considered haram in Islam, and probably in other religions too.

No, dude. Haram is specific to Islam. But there's other religions out there with differing perspectives on gambling.  For example, gambling is not strictly prohibited in Christianity or Judaism. And, as far as I know, in Buddhism as well.

Many people violate religious prohibitions these days, either out of boredom or because sinful things seem more enjoyable. If you find yourself getting too deep into the dark side, it might be time to start considering a balance between religious devotion and a life filled with sins.

We can't assume all people buy into a faith.  Plenty of folks don't belong to some formal religion or feel beholden to religious rules.  For them, sin might not carry the same meaning as it does for people who strictly follow a certain religion.

[agustina2]

We can't discuss gambling related to religion here as everyone has a different opinion about this and the cycle will just never end. Let's just put it simply that there's no 100% perfect religion where everyone will follow their respective things to be followed. In most parts of the world, people are exposed to gambling regardless of their religion that's why there's always a chance that these people will do gambling even if it's not allowed in their religion.

Same as how people treat liquors, drugs and other considered sin activities.

[TimeTeller]

We can't discuss gambling related to religion here as everyone has a different opinion about this and the cycle will just never end. Let's just put it simply that there's no 100% perfect religion where everyone will follow their respective things to be followed. In most parts of the world, people are exposed to gambling regardless of their religion that's why there's always a chance that these people will do gambling even if it's not allowed in their religion.

Same as how people treat liquors, drugs and other considered sin activities.

Just respect is all we need when it comes to this type of subject.
We don't need to brand anyone based on his religion, because all religion are all just created by man.
So each one has their own beliefs, and so their way of living. This is why we need to respect each individual on this matter.
If we are against their beliefs, then just avoid mingling with them. Mind your own business. As long as they are not forcing you to live with their beliefs.

[livingfree]

As always, a sensitive topic if it's related to religion. It's always about the division of people and beliefs if it's going to be regard on this matter.

The popular opinion is going to be it's always against the teachings of any religion. But anyone can start a religion nowadays and make their own belief that shall be followed by its followers.

But for the peace of mind someone, you do what you want to do without thinking if it's allowed or not. So, basically it is you that's going to judge your actions whether they're good or bad.

Live and let to live, sort of approach.
Though, it is difficult to have such point of view on anything related to gambling when one lives in a society where it is not only stigmatized because the usual stereotypes of gamblers, but also because of religion. It would take a look at countries where there are governments which take a formal stand when comes to region and adopt one as their official one. Saudi Arabia comes to mind, so does Indonesia.
I suppose that in the end of the day, all is good as long as one is not hurting anyone, though some religious leaders will argue we are hurting ourselves when we engage in gambling.

Indeed a very difficult topic for a lot of people to agree on, since I am against totalitarian ideas and I believe in free will, I stand with the same ideas you stand by.

Yes, that's still what matters on this topic.

As long as you don't step on any feeling of other people then that's what you have to be mindful of. As long are you're not hurting them and you are minding your own thing, there should be no problem at all.

So, you do you and do what makes you happy. If you are aware that there are some punishment whether while you're living on this world or after life, you deal with it on your own.

[0t3p0t]

Based on my understanding it is undoubtedly that gambling is haram on their beliefs and we should respect that belief. I am not a Muslim guy but I haven't heard here in our locality wherein they were involved in gambling activities or even online I didn't see one so far. With crypto gambling we really have no idea what religions are involved on there but it is their own decision and risk to do such activities.

[ethereumhunter]

Based on my understanding it is undoubtedly that gambling is haram on their beliefs and we should respect that belief. I am not a Muslim guy but I haven't heard here in our locality wherein they were involved in gambling activities or even online I didn't see one so far. With crypto gambling we really have no idea what religions are involved on there but it is their own decision and risk to do such activities.

Gambling is haram, but people still gamble because they don't see it as haram. After all, according to them, it is a pleasure like any other pleasure. We can't say much about this because it will depend on each person. If they know that gambling is haram but they still gamble often, that's up to them and whatever reasons they say, it still depends on the judgment of those who gamble. We also cannot force them not to gamble because it is haram. After all, that is a decision they have taken and they should be able to take responsibility for it later.

[boyptc]

Based on my understanding it is undoubtedly that gambling is haram on their beliefs and we should respect that belief. I am not a Muslim guy but I haven't heard here in our locality wherein they were involved in gambling activities or even online I didn't see one so far. With crypto gambling we really have no idea what religions are involved on there but it is their own decision and risk to do such activities.

I guess that we will see that some or just a little number of them that does it for their own satisfaction. Not judging with any of them but in every religion, there's like the black sheeps that are in that form.

It's a small herd and that's why the respect must be there for the majority because in every religion, the number are just few to those that are not dedicated in following their laws.

Gambling is haram, but people still gamble because they don't see it as haram.

I am confused, they knew it that it is haram but they gamble because they don't see it as a haram. I think these are the people that I am talking about as the blacksheeps.

[Assface16678]

Based on my understanding it is undoubtedly that gambling is haram on their beliefs and we should respect that belief. I am not a Muslim guy but I haven't heard here in our locality wherein they were involved in gambling activities or even online I didn't see one so far. With crypto gambling we really have no idea what religions are involved on there but it is their own decision and risk to do such activities.

Gambling is haram, but people still gamble because they don't see it as haram. After all, according to them, it is a pleasure like any other pleasure. We can't say much about this because it will depend on each person. If they know that gambling is haram but they still gamble often, that's up to them and whatever reasons they say, it still depends on the judgment of those who gamble. We also cannot force them not to gamble because it is haram. After all, that is a decision they have taken and they should be able to take responsibility for it later.

Exactly! , its not that we are depicting their religion, but let's be honest, some people or most of the people out there that do have their own religion sometimes do the things that are forbidden in their religion. Yes,  it is stated in their religion beliefs that this thinc is bad or forbidden, but according to human nature, they will tend to do things as they can't control themselves and they can't fight the urge. And gambling is one of them. Like the OP said, gambling is forbidden in their religion, but they still do it. Why? It's because they can't control themselves, and let's face it, not all people could be as disciplined as the other members of their religion. What should they do? Make it a secret. Yes,  maybe the god or the person they are worshipping might see what they are doing, but we can't do anything about our own desires or decisions. If we decide not to follow religion, then it is. The same goes for gambling. As long as we can't control ourselves, even if we stay in the religion that gambling is forbidden, we will still do it.

[Johnyz]

Based on my understanding it is undoubtedly that gambling is haram on their beliefs and we should respect that belief. I am not a Muslim guy but I haven't heard here in our locality wherein they were involved in gambling activities or even online I didn't see one so far. With crypto gambling we really have no idea what religions are involved on there but it is their own decision and risk to do such activities.

Some are true to their faith while the others are not, and seriously in our locals there's a lot of Muslims that are into gambling and due to a not so strict policy or not a strict implementor, they are able to do such kind of activities even if its not allowed based on their faith. I guess they are all humans that can fall into a trap of gambling and there's no religion can be safe from this, because gambling can be done by anyone depends on their willingness to gamble.

[madnessteat]

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I have personally known several Muslims who have violated haram. In my opinion it is not about cryptocurrencies that help them to circumvent gambling bans, but about their unwillingness to follow the rules that they agree with on the one hand, but when it comes to them they do not follow them. In my opinion, the strength of faith is different for everyone and religion is not able to completely limit a person in something. This applies not only to Muslims but also to other religious denominations.

[bangjoe]

Again, it is actually unethical to discuss the issue of gambling with religion and link it, remember that gambling is personal and so is religion, so it is very important for us to respect other people's views on rules and morals.  i am also a Christian and really respect other Christians who don't gamble because they think gambling is bad behavior, i never feel like i'm right, i just gamble without harming myself, my family and also other people because some radical Christians said that gambling destroys a person's personality and also destroys his life so in my opinion as long as the person is able to manage his gambling activities well then it is legal.

For this problem basically depends on each person's faith in religion, I am also an Islamic person and gambling is strictly prohibited, maybe it is true that my faith is not so good at this time, why then I want to stop at a certain age in gambling. And again the environment is basically rejecting, I myself am more closed to the environment that does not know me in terms of gambling.

I agree not to associate it and assume that any logic in making gambling a good thing in the view of religion, I think there will be no view that can change that, and for religious people depends on their faith in religion.