Crypto gambling and religious restrictions

[o48o]

Crypto is a currency and it serve as a medium of exchange I think and in Islam, using currency to gamble is really bad and a sin before God, there is no way that justify it as a good practice. Gambling doesn't have to be a involvement of currency in Islam before it can be consider

as a sin but even advertise it is also a sin. I have seen a Muslim person from this forum that reject a gambling signature because he feels it's sin before his creator and he is a Muslim, he is one of the forum staff I think

While i am not by any means expert, definition of currency and reasoning in these stuck in my head, and few questions raised in my head.

1. If currency isn't needed for gambling. How can one gamble without something that can be considered as currency? Or do we have different definitions for iit? Because most of the things in life can be used as a currency, even coins you collected in a game that you can use buy virtual stuff for your game. Those can sometimes be sold for real money. In fact it's hard to imagine anything, that couldn't be in some cases traded against money, and used as a currency.

2. Definition of gambling: It seems that while gambling itself is considered to be haram, the definition of gambling varies everywhere and with every game, and some tournaments with entry fees seem to get a pass. So what's the deal with this? Or should we just accept that there's as much religions as there is people and scholars, and that everyone has their own viewpoint on this? Because it rarely is as black as white with religions. They have been have been used to justify just about everything one can imagine, because rules are ancient, and tied to old culture. Transferring them to modern times make them more or less ambigious and matter of matter of interpretation without enough data.

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[danherbias07]

As always, a sensitive topic if it's related to religion. It's always about the division of people and beliefs if it's going to be regard on this matter.

The popular opinion is going to be it's always against the teachings of any religion. But anyone can start a religion nowadays and make their own belief that shall be followed by its followers.

But for the peace of mind someone, you do what you want to do without thinking if it's allowed or not. So, basically it is you that's going to judge your actions whether they're good or bad.

It is a sensitive topic because there are so many different religions in the world now. And one religion might not understand the other because of their different beliefs, rules, and other critical writings on their own Bibles.
Correct, it's on us if our actions are good or bad.
I do remember one religion where it's prohibited to drink alcohol because it will mess up their mind and they might do bad things afterward or if they get drunk. One of their members is a friend of mine and he still drinks with me. According to him, it's still up to the person if he will control himself or not, sure it's prohibited in their religion but it doesn't really say to not drink at all.
Keep it in moderation. That's his view of the rules that were made. I do believe him because I have never ever seen him do crazy things after we drank the whole night. He is always composed and actually, he is the one taking all our friends back home if they are drunk.
Again, this discussion is critical so I guess it should be up to the person on how he will follow it. Avoid it if there's a chance but if not then keep it under control.

[decodx]

I have personally known several Muslims who have violated haram. In my opinion it is not about cryptocurrencies that help them to circumvent gambling bans, but about their unwillingness to follow the rules that they agree with on the one hand, but when it comes to them they do not follow them. In my opinion, the strength of faith is different for everyone and religion is not able to completely limit a person in something. This applies not only to Muslims but also to other religious denominations.

I get what you're saying about how strong someone's faith is kinda depends on the person.  And yeah, religion doesn't always stop people from doing stuff they shouldnt.  but I kinda think cryptocurrencies make it harder for some folks to stick to their beliefs. and  These things are decentralized and anonymous, right? So it's easier for someone to gamble without getting caught or told off by their community. 

Now sure, there's lots of Muslims who use crypto in a responsible way that lines up with their religion.  But we should admit that this stuff poses unique challenges for religious folks trying to walk the walk.

[klidex]

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And in the end this does not lie in the issue of halal and haram, because the provisions are clear and they know it..!!! that they fully know the laws of the actions they carry out (gambling). Maybe for those who have a strong foundation of belief and adherence to things that are prohibited by religion, then of course they never decide to enter the world of gambling, in fact, such an approach is something that is impossible for them to do, because they really can't do that. they truly protect themselves from all forms of immorality and evil.

And when talking about casinos, I think casinos never force someone to visit and come to their place, casinos only provide forms of offers, the rest is up to each individual. And it's not that you shouldn't link religious issues with gambling, because after all religion is what regulates all forms of human life and daily life. It's just that in this case, not all religions do not allow gambling and not all people have a religion. We just believe what we believe and let other people believe what they believe. And if we believe that gambling is something wrong, then immediately stop this activity and never invite other people to make the same mistake.

Yes, those who are aware of what rules are permitted and not permitted in their religion should be able to make their own decision whether to continue doing it or not, some people don't really care about their own beliefs because they are too happy and ignore religious matters with personal interests. so they continue to do whatever they like without relating it to their beliefs, as long as they feel satisfied with their life and continue to do what they want, they will continue to do it (gambling).

Of course, every casino is not authorized to involve the religious beliefs of its customers because all they want is to make a profit and happily serve the people who visit and gamble at their location.
It is true that religion regulates every human life, but not everyone adheres to their respective religious beliefs when it comes to personal pleasure and in fact this happens a lot around us.

[ethereumhunter]

I am confused, they knew it that it is haram but they gamble because they don't see it as a haram. I think these are the people that I am talking about as the blacksheeps.

No need to be confused. That is human. They clearly know that it is haram but they still gamble. That's because the temptation of gambling can make them forget for a moment about the rules of their religion. And they even say it's okay, especially if you win. Apart from that, we also cannot force them to leave gambling because they desire to continue gambling. We can only give them advice and then it's up to them because they are the ones who live it.

Exactly! , its not that we are depicting their religion, but let's be honest, some people or most of the people out there that do have their own religion sometimes do the things that are forbidden in their religion. Yes,  it is stated in their religion beliefs that this thinc is bad or forbidden, but according to human nature, they will tend to do things as they can't control themselves and they can't fight the urge. And gambling is one of them. Like the OP said, gambling is forbidden in their religion, but they still do it. Why? It's because they can't control themselves, and let's face it, not all people could be as disciplined as the other members of their religion. What should they do? Make it a secret. Yes,  maybe the god or the person they are worshipping might see what they are doing, but we can't do anything about our own desires or decisions. If we decide not to follow religion, then it is. The same goes for gambling. As long as we can't control ourselves, even if we stay in the religion that gambling is forbidden, we will still do it.

Yes, those are the people who still gamble even though gambling is prohibited in their religion. They don't want to leave gambling because there is an urge to make money from gambling so they will continue gambling even though they don't have a big chance of winning. If it is their wish to continue gambling, we can only leave it to them and that is their responsibility in gambling. The important thing is that they know that gambling cannot always make money, but they will experience a lot of losses. This is what they are aware of, so even though their religion prohibits gambling, it doesn't mean anything to them because they want to continue gambling. We just let them choose and they should also be aware of the consequences.

[Mia Chloe]

Does saying gambling is a sin for Christians and Haram for Muslims make individuals of these religions quit gambling? I do not think so. There is a moral stand in everything, and every gambling person should allow this to guide them. If you are gambling and wasting time, life, career, relationships, mental health, finances, then you should have a conversation with yourself. Outside of the religious restrictions, there should be a personal restriction.

Definitely gambling is a moral based choice and activity. When it comes to gambling as a value, it is perceived as a wrong act simply because a majority of people see it as one.
As for the religious aspects it is unethical to blame a religion against gambling , although a majority of them are against it.

Although gambling is a moral choice, a person who worships under a religion against it is not expected to gamble. This is because if he does he is not a person of that religion but rather someone who cloaks himself under the religion. Besides every religion has its rules so if a person ignores them, it simply means he is not for that religion , but rather he is in pretence under that religion.

[Hirose UK]

I am confused, they knew it that it is haram but they gamble because they don't see it as a haram. I think these are the people that I am talking about as the blacksheeps.

No need to be confused. That is human. They clearly know that it is haram but they still gamble. That's because the temptation of gambling can make them forget for a moment about the rules of their religion. And they even say it's okay, especially if you win. Apart from that, we also cannot force them to leave gambling because they desire to continue gambling. We can only give them advice and then it's up to them because they are the ones who live it.

Firstly, if you just say and relate to various activities which according to all religious teachings are prohibited and haram then it is clear that many of these prohibitions are violated and are not really cared about.
Not only gambling, but consuming alcoholic drinks, free sex, and narcotics are all prohibited for all existing religions because religion teaches virtue and also the philosophy of living with love for God and carrying out the various recommended religions.
But in reality, many people violate all of this out of mere satisfaction and of course this is mistake if it is judged using religious teachings and regulations prohibiting religious people.
We can only remain good people by not harming other people, even if we do some prohibitions, but if it doesn't harm other people then just do it because whatever the consequences, only we ourselves will accept it.
If you really think it all mistake that needs to be fixed then leave everything behind, never try again to do anything that is clearly prohibited.

We live in modern times and when many religious prohibitions are violated it has become habit that cannot be avoided.
In gambling, we ourselves decide to start and if we can't accept it then just do what we think is right.

[Outhue]

I am not a Muslim but haram is haram and every Muslims shouldn't be gambling at all, it's against their religion, I know few Muslims that can't do without gambling, yet they pray five times daily, it's actually left for them to make decisions that suits their life.

Truth the told, most gamblers are not religiously strong, if we have to say the fact, you can't be religious and be a gambler, because both Christain and Muslims are to stay away from gambling, it doesn't help the spirits at all.

It's either you quit gambling for religion or you face gambling and be less religious, many still pray to God and still gambles, that includes myself, but I am good at watching over myself, always avoiding gambling addiction, which I believe it's the most important thing for everyone to do, either religious or not.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I am not a Muslim but haram is haram and every Muslims shouldn't be gambling at all, it's against their religion, I know few Muslims that can't do without gambling, yet they pray five times daily, it's actually left for them to make decisions that suits their life.

Truth the told, most gamblers are not religiously strong, if we have to say the fact, you can't be religious and be a gambler, because both Christain and Muslims are to stay away from gambling, it doesn't help the spirits at all.

It's either you quit gambling for religion or you face gambling and be less religious, many still pray to God and still gambles, that includes myself, but I am good at watching over myself, always avoiding gambling addiction, which I believe it's the most important thing for everyone to do, either religious or not.

It is difficult to do these things, what I can think about this is that whenever something is done in accordance with what we like, it should not influence religions, I respect the bases of religions a lot, but if not I can see the Religions laid their foundations many years ago, even in ancient times when casino activities were frowned upon by everyone ,The conservative views of many people , in this type of things they can establish many aspects, prohibitions and a lot, I am a person who grew up with a very different religion, which does have Inhibitions , but I consider myself that 'to reach the Father is not through Religions , because for me in each religion, far below there are dark things and interests that are very given to it, in this order of ideas what we must always make evident is that we are from this world, if there are things that make us have fun, I think we should do them, as long as things are accomplished and then do the penances, for example as you say, They play and then do penance, because it is something that can be done in the most radical religions.

But in View of this there is a very Famous Relationship where I liv e, which Consists of going almost every day, singing , praising God for everything , they call themselves brothers and everything, but they have to leave 10% of their salary to the pastor, and when we see "El Pastor " he has a tremendous truck , he has a Tremendous house,  quite a few , they live as if he were famous  , but I pay 10% of each person's salary because the pastor sets himself up, so this becomes very Politicized at that level, So there are things that I don't agree with , I have another way of seeing things , for me doing good things, actions that can help others is the best, there is no Need to give money to a pastor who has no need, there is to give to those in need , to Give food , to Support Others , well that's what I see , But still , my Religion is Something that I hardly take into Consideration , I don't even go to Sunday meals because I know that many in the Vatican are much more Dark , so believing in those People is not my Thing.

[tsaroz]

Commenting about religion is still a taboo as there still are people in 21st century that takes religion seriously.
So, talking about gambling restrictions in specific religion, what we all must realize is the original text of any religious books are interpreted in different ways throughout the history and many rulers and religious leaders had influenced, omitted and explained it according to their thoughts.
Talking about Islam itself, there are many tales, stories and recorded history that described the role of gambling in a islamic society and considering it a haram is a fairly new interpretation.
Talking about current Saudi enforced rules, gambling in any form is forbidden, so is riba. That would make most of crypto related activities along with gambling to led you to hell.

[bhadz]

Besides every religion has its rules so if a person ignores them, it simply means he is not for that religion , but rather he is in pretence under that religion.

There are reasons why a person joins a religion and if they want to belong to that organization or religion, they have to obey the rules and laws that's being said on them. One thing is what we see, there are a lot of pretentious people and at the same time, they're hypocrite. They're making themselves look like saint but they gamble and that's against to their belief. It's a topic that many don't want to discuss but it is interesting when you people's thought about gambling and religion and IMO, we'll see more of topics like this in the nearest future.

[Beparanf]

Commenting about religion is still a taboo as there still are people in 21st century that takes religion seriously.
So, talking about gambling restrictions in specific religion, what we all must realize is the original text of any religious books are interpreted in different ways throughout the history and many rulers and religious leaders had influenced, omitted and explained it according to their thoughts.
Talking about Islam itself, there are many tales, stories and recorded history that described the role of gambling in a islamic society and considering it a haram is a fairly new interpretation.
Talking about current Saudi enforced rules, gambling in any form is forbidden, so is riba. That would make most of crypto related activities along with gambling to led you to hell.

Religion is still dominant around the globe while their stance on gambling is still the same negative. I agree that we should not brought up this topic casually because it might involves someone’s faith in question which we should respect.

I believe that separation of religion should have a line drawn in regards with gambling restriction discussion because it’s not about a normal but rather a serious matter to someone that has a belief to higher beings. There’s a lot of topic that can be discussed here about gambling that will not gonna involved religion.

[topbitcoin]

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And in the end this does not lie in the issue of halal and haram, because the provisions are clear and they know it..!!! that they fully know the laws of the actions they carry out (gambling). Maybe for those who have a strong foundation of belief and adherence to things that are prohibited by religion, then of course they never decide to enter the world of gambling, in fact, such an approach is something that is impossible for them to do, because they really can't do that. they truly protect themselves from all forms of immorality and evil.

And when talking about casinos, I think casinos never force someone to visit and come to their place, casinos only provide forms of offers, the rest is up to each individual. And it's not that you shouldn't link religious issues with gambling, because after all religion is what regulates all forms of human life and daily life. It's just that in this case, not all religions do not allow gambling and not all people have a religion. We just believe what we believe and let other people believe what they believe. And if we believe that gambling is something wrong, then immediately stop this activity and never invite other people to make the same mistake.

Yes, those who are aware of what rules are permitted and not permitted in their religion should be able to make their own decision whether to continue doing it or not, some people don't really care about their own beliefs because they are too happy and ignore religious matters with personal interests. so they continue to do whatever they like without relating it to their beliefs, as long as they feel satisfied with their life and continue to do what they want, they will continue to do it (gambling).

Of course, every casino is not authorized to involve the religious beliefs of its customers because all they want is to make a profit and happily serve the people who visit and gamble at their location.
It is true that religion regulates every human life, but not everyone adheres to their respective religious beliefs when it comes to personal pleasure and in fact this happens a lot around us.

As someone who is old enough, we should know what is good and what is bad, what is permitted and what is prohibited, what we should do and what we should avoid. Likewise, when talking about gambling, without having to link it to religion, if you consider that gambling is a detrimental activity, then immediately stop the activity and promise not to go to or visit a casino again. In this case, it is not gambling that is wrong, because before you were born, gambling has existed since ancient times. It's not that gambling is wrong, it's that we are wrong in perceiving and understanding gambling itself, where we often think that apart from gambling being a place to have fun, gambling is also a place to make a profit, so in the end we behave stupidly. and careless by betting beyond our financial capabilities, betting using all the money we have, where in the end a big win is not achieved, while the money and wealth we have is used up for gambling. And what do we get? all we get is a feeling of deep regret and suffering.

And if we realize correctly, that the casino only wants to make a profit from the number of bets we make. So be careful, control yourself when gambling, don't let your daily life be filled only with gambling and don't let the money you have run out just for gambling.

[Quidat]

Commenting about religion is still a taboo as there still are people in 21st century that takes religion seriously.
So, talking about gambling restrictions in specific religion, what we all must realize is the original text of any religious books are interpreted in different ways throughout the history and many rulers and religious leaders had influenced, omitted and explained it according to their thoughts.
Talking about Islam itself, there are many tales, stories and recorded history that described the role of gambling in a islamic society and considering it a haram is a fairly new interpretation.
Talking about current Saudi enforced rules, gambling in any form is forbidden, so is riba. That would make most of crypto related activities along with gambling to led you to hell.

Religion is still dominant around the globe while their stance on gambling is still the same negative. I agree that we should not brought up this topic casually because it might involves someone’s faith in question which we should respect.

I believe that separation of religion should have a line drawn in regards with gambling restriction discussion because it’s not about a normal but rather a serious matter to someone that has a belief to higher beings. There’s a lot of topic that can be discussed here about gambling that will not gonna involved religion.

Majority of them would really be that negative when it comes to gambling, and this is why to those people who are believers then they would really be normally be following on whats been mandated or whats been that told. There are ones who are really that following and there are ones who arent. It would really be just that normal that you should really be following basing up on what you do believe
but if you are really just that playing for fun then i dont see any problems with gambling. It is really just that there are ones who are really that highly overreactive when it comes to things.
It would really be always good that you should be that only basing up on with your own interest on which you arent compromising something.

[Westinhome]

While i am not by any means expert, definition of currency and reasoning in these stuck in my head, and few questions raised in my head.

1. If currency isn't needed for gambling. How can one gamble without something that can be considered as currency? Or do we have different definitions for iit? Because most of the things in life can be used as a currency, even coins you collected in a game that you can use buy virtual stuff for your game. Those can sometimes be sold for real money. In fact it's hard to imagine anything, that couldn't be in some cases traded against money, and used as a currency.

The gambling was used to play with the mode of gold in the ancient times,before to the gold many used their property as their primary currency to play the gambling.After the invention of the currency many of the people uses the currency as their primary source to play the gambling.Now we are in the world of the digital currency or cryptocurrencies,So the same was considered as the source for the gambling in the real life.

2. Definition of gambling: It seems that while gambling itself is considered to be haram, the definition of gambling varies everywhere and with every game, and some tournaments with entry fees seem to get a pass. So what's the deal with this? Or should we just accept that there's as much religions as there is people and scholars, and that everyone has their own viewpoint on this? Because it rarely is as black as white with religions. They have been have been used to justify just about everything one can imagine, because rules are ancient, and tied to old culture. Transferring them to modern times make them more or less ambigious and matter of matter of interpretation without enough data.

The people from some of the religions was consider the gambling as the haram which mean it was against their own religion.So the true religious person will follow the rules of the religion and never take part in the haram which means to their own religion.The haram was mainly described by the religious ancestors and never most of the described by any of their own god.So some of the religious people also take part in the gambling activities.

[arimamib]

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The people from some of the religions was consider the gambling as the haram which mean it was against their own religion.So the true religious person will follow the rules of the religion and never take part in the haram which means to their own religion.The haram was mainly described by the religious ancestors and never most of the described by any of their own god.So some of the religious people also take part in the gambling activities.

The prohibition is often rooted in religious teachings and interpretations of sacred texts. For people who adhere strictly to their religious beliefs reflects their commitment to following the rules and principles set forth by their religious traditions. However, as with any religious practice, interpretations can vary among people and communities. While religious authorities or scriptures may explicitly label certain activities as haram, the level of adherence to these prohibitions can vary among followers.

Some religious people may choose to abstain from gambling due to their convictions, while others might not see it as a significant issue or may engage in it despite the religious guidelines. The relationship between religion and gambling is complex and varies across different faiths and their respective followers. It highlights the diversity of perspectives and interpretations within religious communities on matters like gambling.

[blockman]

In my country, you'll see religious people praying that they should win with their bets. And guess what? It's a normal thing and doesn't seen as something against with their faith because they'll reason out that if it's for you then it will be blessed for you. Something odd with all of the faith-based matters and at the same time, you'll still see some amazing things they do for the other people. But if it's about gambling, that's what I've noticed for all of the time that I've been living on this world, praying to hit the lotto jackpot, the team to win for sportsbetting, etc.

[ethereumhunter]

Firstly, if you just say and relate to various activities which according to all religious teachings are prohibited and haram then it is clear that many of these prohibitions are violated and are not really cared about.
Not only gambling, but consuming alcoholic drinks, free sex, and narcotics are all prohibited for all existing religions because religion teaches virtue and also the philosophy of living with love for God and carrying out the various recommended religions.
But in reality, many people violate all of this out of mere satisfaction and of course this is mistake if it is judged using religious teachings and regulations prohibiting religious people.
We can only remain good people by not harming other people, even if we do some prohibitions, but if it doesn't harm other people then just do it because whatever the consequences, only we ourselves will accept it.
If you really think it all mistake that needs to be fixed then leave everything behind, never try again to do anything that is clearly prohibited.

We live in modern times and when many religious prohibitions are violated it has become habit that cannot be avoided.
In gambling, we ourselves decide to start and if we can't accept it then just do what we think is right.

If we pay attention, there are many activities carried out by humans that are prohibited by religion but still do them for many reasons. It's the choice of each person who does it, and it seems like they already know it, but they don't stop doing it. We also can't force them to stop doing it because it is their choice to keep doing it, and they like it, so they still do it. Yes, we can only be good people who do not harm others or disturb others. As long as we don't harm each other, everything will be fine, and if a problem arises later because of what each of us does, it will be our responsibility, so we must be able to find a solution to solve the problem. Maybe later, they will realize what they did was wrong and try to stop what they thought was wrong. It takes awareness from them to know that it is wrong and just let them do what they want to do.

We admit that many religious prohibitions have been violated. We must reduce violating these prohibitions by being good people towards others. Later, we will be given the awareness to admit that what we did was wrong and try to change it.

[PokerBetting]

Perhaps the only religion that prohibits gambling is Islam. other than that, it seems that other religions do not really prohibit gambling.
What's more, gambling is online and only uses crypto currency so if you want to gamble, no one will blame you legally. only religiously, even then, only Islam prohibits gambling.
but for the crypto currency itself there is no problem. like money wants to be used for sin or good things, it depends on the user.

[retreat]

Gambling is still haram, whether crypto gambling or regular gambling, if someone plays it can be considered a sin even if he gives the money to charity. But even so, there are still many Muslim brothers who gamble because they think that it is the best way for them to earn money quickly, especially in developing countries where many people's incomes are below standard. They have the idea that doubling their money in gambling is not a big deal and later they can give alms, pray or make sacrifices to make up for it. It's a little sad and funny to see that, but it's a fact that happened.