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January 23, 2024, 08:07:41 AM
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Because in this current era, many people only care about government regulations and legal provisions that actually apply, not about various regulations and prohibitions, we must be able to understand that religious prohibitions are very important, but in this current era it is difficult to follow them.
Most people will only care about government laws that will clearly make them feel real punishment when they violate them, and we just need to always be good people who don't harm other people.
I think that is far more than enough and just look at the prohibitions and rules that all religions have, of course it is difficult to truly obey them so it is not surprising that religious prohibitions are very often ignored and perhaps more often violated by anyone and everyone anywhere.
I person who has religious beliefs and I live in an environment that is very tied to religion but in reality they all also violate the rules given by the teachings of that religion.
It would be very difficult if in this era we still had to continue to prioritize religious prohibitions as the main key in life.

Well, that wise attitude and when we can't really uphold various rules then at least we don't become bad people by harming other people.
When we gamble, when we lose, we feel it ourselves and we ourselves experience losses, so don't make other people feel at loss or even experience disappointment with what we do.
Yes, that's what people do when they want to gamble, where they will only check the regulations of their country even though it is clear in their religion that gambling is clearly prohibited and should not be done. But these people don't care about it and instead gamble more and more often. We also cannot blame those who gamble and violate religious prohibitions because that will be each person's responsibility. If they could realize this, there might be a drastic reduction in the number of gamblers who frequently gamble because many of them decided to stop gambling because they felt they had violated the rules of their religion. But that might be less likely because people who are already gambling have found pleasure in gambling so they will continue to gamble. And when times progress further, perhaps more people will not pay attention to this because they can get entertainment from gambling games.

And only a wise attitude that each person needs to have so that they can know what they have to do. If they still want to gamble, they will continue, but if they feel uncomfortable gambling, they will decide to stop gambling. It will depend on each person to decide. Meanwhile, we cannot force them to stop their gambling activities.

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January 23, 2024, 09:38:37 AM
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Of course, every religion prohibits things that can harm oneself or something that tends to have a bad impact on oneself. But there are always people who break these rules and it is very difficult to stop them. Stealing is prohibited in religion, but thieves always exist in this world. Adultery is prohibited in all religions, but many people do it. These are all decisions that have an impact on every individual regardless of religious rules that prohibit it. Of course there are consequences to why it is prohibited, but you can't stop it.
The point is not about to stop other people to gamble, but it's start by yourself. So, is your religion prohibit gambling? if yes I want to know the reason why you're still become a gambler.

Yes, that's what people do when they want to gamble, where they will only check the regulations of their country even though it is clear in their religion that gambling is clearly prohibited and should not be done.
I doubt it, most people don't care about the terms of services, even the casino has given a warning message if they can't accept citizen from that country, people will use VPN and access the site.

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January 23, 2024, 09:45:46 AM
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Of course, every religion prohibits things that can harm oneself or something that tends to have a bad impact on oneself. But there are always people who break these rules and it is very difficult to stop them. Stealing is prohibited in religion, but thieves always exist in this world. Adultery is prohibited in all religions, but many people do it. These are all decisions that have an impact on every individual regardless of religious rules that prohibit it. Of course there are consequences to why it is prohibited, but you can't stop it.
The point is not about to stop other people to gamble, but it's start by yourself. So, is your religion prohibit gambling? if yes I want to know the reason why you're still become a gambler.

Yes, that's what people do when they want to gamble, where they will only check the regulations of their country even though it is clear in their religion that gambling is clearly prohibited and should not be done.
I doubt it, most people don't care about the terms of services, even the casino has given a warning message if they can't accept citizen from that country, people will use VPN and access the site.

Some people accept religion because they have failed in every aspect of life and they find refugee there in religion.This though gives them a certain self esteem and they start trying their activities that maybe they did before entering a religion,namely gambling.They continue to play there as they feel the desire to do so and religion is just like a turtle house which shields them from further misjudgment from people,they do it online and in real "life" they go to church or mosque for example.

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January 23, 2024, 10:30:48 AM
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Most religious belief kicks against gambling and regardless of the guise you used in going about the act, it doesn't disprove the fact that you've actually rebel against your religious belief.

From my level of knowledge on general religious beliefs, their is a supernatural force that monitors the activities of her fellows and knows whatever they do both in the secret and the open and so using cryptocurrency as a method of gambling doesn't in any way suggest that the God you believe in doesn't see that you have gambled.

Outside of that, their is still serious argument among most religious folks regarding the topic of gambling being bad or not or if it should be practiced or not and even at the present, their are lots of religious people than still gamble publicly because of their believe system.

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January 23, 2024, 04:52:08 PM
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Some of the religion against the gambling not all the religion against the gambling.In more specifically the Islamic religion was against the gambling,many people considered the gambling was against the religion by the Christianity community also.The more faith gamblers were involved in the gambling with trust to make the big money one day.The religious people doesn’t gamble only because of their religious opinion.They also come to know more about the some of the gambling losses,the gamblers who play the random betting in the gambling site will loss their funds for sure.The gambling is most of the time depending on the luck of the gamblers too.
Yes, that is true and has happened in many places. Those who previously did not gamble finally took up gambling because they saw that there were people who could win a lot of money from gambling. They believe that they can make a lot of money from gambling, so they then start learning to gamble, especially in sports betting. Besides that, they feel they have good knowledge about the sport, so they decide to try placing bets. They also have to know that they can lose, so they have to be able to adjust the amount of their bet to the money they can afford. In the end, because they get pleasure from gambling, they forget their religion, which prohibits gambling, and instead gamble more often.

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January 23, 2024, 08:06:36 PM
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well, talking about religion and gambling, here in my country, new churches with strange names keep appearing and each new church that has emerged here in my country, are always radical churches that consist of brainwashing people. . Man, it's unbelievable how a person who enters those churches in just a few days can change so much, I had a person who I talked to a lot, he was a person who watched movies, played a lot. He was someone who had a life in the real world, he was someone who never stopped playing. He always set aside time to play, but one day he entered one of those strange churches that are being created almost every month in my country.

After he entered this church, the guy became a different person, he started to hate gambling, he said it was a thing of the devil. I kept arguing with him and trying to convince him that he was wrong and that he was being deceived in the church and that gambling was not the devil's thing, it was something created by people with good intentions. but the guy had already been brainwashed and didn't accept it, the guy stopped watching movies, the guy stopped playing games, the guy started to dress strangely, the guy only talked about his church, he was so alone keep talking about church that I was forced to stop talking to him and to this day I don't talk to him, it's been more than 5 years and still the guy hasn't changed at all. he continues to dress very strangely. My brother has been telling me that he's still the same church fanatic. That's why I advise people to be very careful with certain churches

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January 23, 2024, 08:16:20 PM
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well, talking about religion and gambling, here in my country, new churches with strange names keep appearing and each new church that has emerged here in my country, are always radical churches that consist of brainwashing people. . Man, it's unbelievable how a person who enters those churches in just a few days can change so much, I had a person who I talked to a lot, he was a person who watched movies, played a lot. He was someone who had a life in the real world, he was someone who never stopped playing. He always set aside time to play, but one day he entered one of those strange churches that are being created almost every month in my country.

After he entered this church, the guy became a different person, he started to hate gambling, he said it was a thing of the devil. I kept arguing with him and trying to convince him that he was wrong and that he was being deceived in the church and that gambling was not the devil's thing, it was something created by people with good intentions. but the guy had already been brainwashed and didn't accept it, the guy stopped watching movies, the guy stopped playing games, the guy started to dress strangely, the guy only talked about his church, he was so alone keep talking about church that I was forced to stop talking to him and to this day I don't talk to him, it's been more than 5 years and still the guy hasn't changed at all. he continues to dress very strangely. My brother has been telling me that he's still the same church fanatic. That's why I advise people to be very careful with certain churches
I will just say that everybody have their own beliefs but the interesting part is that many others don't give a fuck about what they are doing and what people are saying to them.
Some reasond why some few gamblers are going astray in gambling is because they are pursuing winning and they also wants to recover their loses, but it is difficult to do so that is why many of them ended up losing everything that they have.
Many people don't want to make their own research in what gamble is about that's why someone can come from anywhere and tell them lies about gambling, that gamble is from hell.
Although, no one's knows who's doing the right thing and who's doing the wrong thing but I think is better for one not to use the opportunity that they have to spoil another man's business.

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January 23, 2024, 10:21:19 PM
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well, talking about religion and gambling, here in my country, new churches with strange names keep appearing and each new church that has emerged here in my country, are always radical churches that consist of brainwashing people. . Man, it's unbelievable how a person who enters those churches in just a few days can change so much, I had a person who I talked to a lot, he was a person who watched movies, played a lot. He was someone who had a life in the real world, he was someone who never stopped playing. He always set aside time to play, but one day he entered one of those strange churches that are being created almost every month in my country.

After he entered this church, the guy became a different person, he started to hate gambling, he said it was a thing of the devil. I kept arguing with him and trying to convince him that he was wrong and that he was being deceived in the church and that gambling was not the devil's thing, it was something created by people with good intentions. but the guy had already been brainwashed and didn't accept it, the guy stopped watching movies, the guy stopped playing games, the guy started to dress strangely, the guy only talked about his church, he was so alone keep talking about church that I was forced to stop talking to him and to this day I don't talk to him, it's been more than 5 years and still the guy hasn't changed at all. he continues to dress very strangely. My brother has been telling me that he's still the same church fanatic. That's why I advise people to be very careful with certain churches
It's a little crazy with some Christian churches (which I assume you're also referring to) and how much money they will try to drain from poor people's wallets.
They'll sell them supposedly holy amulets, holy water, cures for diseases even sometimes... Truly this is doing much damage in places like Africa and South East Asia where Christianity is still growing.
Many churches also demand tithing, giving 10% of one's income to the church, which is a whole other level of scam.

Funnily enough these churches will often be adamant about how it's important to avoid vices like gambling, while they're oftentimes the single most powerful force of destroying people's lives.
At least with gambling people have some remote chances of being winners and getting back home with some cash at hand.
With churches people are told that they must bear all the responsibility of being poor, and still give back to the church.
Oftentimes these "new" churches also do nothing in terms of charity, they just enrich their founders.

All in all, just better to gamble than join a "new" church imho. Better to do neither but one is clearly worse than the other Grin

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January 23, 2024, 10:31:08 PM
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Some of the religion against the gambling not all the religion against the gambling.In more specifically the Islamic religion was against the gambling,many people considered the gambling was against the religion by the Christianity community also.The more faith gamblers were involved in the gambling with trust to make the big money one day.The religious people doesn’t gamble only because of their religious opinion.They also come to know more about the some of the gambling losses,the gamblers who play the random betting in the gambling site will loss their funds for sure.The gambling is most of the time depending on the luck of the gamblers too.
Yes, that is true and has happened in many places. Those who previously did not gamble finally took up gambling because they saw that there were people who could win a lot of money from gambling. They believe that they can make a lot of money from gambling, so they then start learning to gamble, especially in sports betting. Besides that, they feel they have good knowledge about the sport, so they decide to try placing bets. They also have to know that they can lose, so they have to be able to adjust the amount of their bet to the money they can afford. In the end, because they get pleasure from gambling, they forget their religion, which prohibits gambling, and instead gamble more often.
I don't think such person are religiously strong to their faith, because you would be surprised what people can do just to uphold their beliefs. In my country where religion is taking seriously people tend to overcome even huge winnings that might influence them into gambling. Although some folks can actually be lured like you said by people winnings and then even become more worse than the actual person they followed.

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There are other religions that, when it comes to gambling, are very strict on this matter because they think that it is a bad habit of a gambler that can ruin an individual's life. Which, after all, I understand, is true.

Gambling can be an instrument for us to become bad people if we don't use it correctly, which may lead to the destruction of ourselves, family relationships, and relationships with our close friends. I just don't know in other religions it is restricted in their beliefs, because in Islam, as far as I know, it is not a bad habit, if I am not misunderstanding.

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January 24, 2024, 03:29:03 PM
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I don't think such person are religiously strong to their faith, because you would be surprised what people can do just to uphold their beliefs. In my country where religion is taking seriously people tend to overcome even huge winnings that might influence them into gambling. Although some folks can actually be lured like you said by people winnings and then even become more worse than the actual person they followed.
Each place will be different, and there will be people like that, especially as this may also have something to do with different habits in each place. They do take religion seriously but they also engage in gambling activities and some even admit that they gamble in their free time. And it does happen, but we can say it doesn't exist because we don't know. Some people will gamble excessively so that their lives become worse than other gamblers, but they continue their gambling activities as if the bad things are nothing to them. They are still able to survive, and they still carry out their religious activities regularly.

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Most christians say gambling is a sin but do not try to figure out why such a harmless act is consider a sin (by calling it harmless, I’m not saying it isn’t not a sin, but looking at its nature). One of the reasons is that it brings greed. Now, greed is where the sin comes in. It is almost impossible that you gamble, and not exhibit the act of greed. I guess it’s the same for Muslims as they are not so different from Christianity.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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We often see the negative impact of people who are addicted to gambling on the environment and their families. People will be addicted and will be greedy. They will lose time to earn money and spend time with their family. A gambler can also become a thief and a cheater if he is addicted and does not get a single penny for spinning the lucky spin. I think Islam sees it as something dangerous and can have a big impact on the environment and most people.

Not everyone can stop gambling. Not everyone can see a game as just a game, so they place bets in it and hope that it becomes one of their sources of income.

I know this discussion is very sensitive for everyone and religion is everyone's privacy. But I think people who are addicted to gambling have a big loss in their lives.

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Most christians say gambling is a sin but do not try to figure out why such a harmless act is consider a sin (by calling it harmless, I’m not saying it isn’t not a sin, but looking at its nature). One of the reasons is that it brings greed. Now, greed is where the sin comes in. It is almost impossible that you gamble, and not exhibit the act of greed. I guess it’s the same for Muslims as they are not so different from Christianity.


If you look at the Christian ministers and their lifestyle in my country, you will notice that they own cars that are far more expensive than the average citizen's car. Is this not greed? Most of the ministers of the church are no different from the average person in their habits. They have all the same temptations and I am sure they themselves do not observe religious precepts. Personally, I am not going to give up gambling because of someone else's opinion.

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Most christians say gambling is a sin but do not try to figure out why such a harmless act is consider a sin (by calling it harmless, I’m not saying it isn’t not a sin, but looking at its nature). One of the reasons is that it brings greed. Now, greed is where the sin comes in. It is almost impossible that you gamble, and not exhibit the act of greed. I guess it’s the same for Muslims as they are not so different from Christianity.


If you look at the Christian ministers and their lifestyle in my country, you will notice that they own cars that are far more expensive than the average citizen's car. Is this not greed? Most of the ministers of the church are no different from the average person in their habits. They have all the same temptations and I am sure they themselves do not observe religious precepts. Personally, I am not going to give up gambling because of someone else's opinion.

Greed of any form is a sin. It doesn’t matter if the minister is from any country or if he has a direct connection with God or not. God as I know doesn’t look at who is doing the wrong thing to decide if it’s wrong. As for gambling, it’s okay to gamble but just don’t be greedy when you do it. Aside religion, it has negative effects on people. That’s just my opinion (not compulsorily the case).



 

 

 

 

 

 


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I know I'm probably going to offend some people with this comment but religion is mans way of dealing with death.  There's thousands of religions and every single one of them claim that they are the "one true religion/one true god".  What a bunch of malarkey.   

If they are so concerned about hiding something from their religion, than why are they Muslim to begin with?  This is where I just find religion to be ridiculous.  I spent the first 18 years of my like growing up catholic.  I don't need them telling me what to do. 

But yes, cryptocurrency just makes it easier to gamble in general.  Was a game changer for me.

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Almost all religions that are widely adhered to by humans have principles that prohibit and require their adherents not to get involved in and avoid all forms of gambling. However, when it comes to the decision to be involved in gambling or not, it is up to each individual, this is a personal choice and can be influenced by each individual's religious beliefs.

However, it would be wiser if you were able to follow the principles taught by religion and you must be able to obey them and respect them. Because this is related to your balance and spiritual capital. Therefore, for any individual who adheres to a religion, I suggest considering the impact of gambling on your beliefs and principles.
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Do you still doing gambling? By any chance, I just want to know if you donate the money you won to those people who are more in need? since you said that it is stated in your holy qouran that it is haram, and even if you are not a devout muslim, do you still follow what is stated in the qouran? Now I know, that's why I know other muslims who's every time they win, they give away the money they won or they buy important things instead of saving the money itself, maybe you have the same reasons.


For now Yes I do gamble but do only for fun and sometimes I use money from the welcome bonus or I just play gamble with fake coins that some of the gambling sites provide.

I donate but not all of them maybe like some of it. However maybe in the long run I will quit gamble or I just play with fake coins like now. I also have Muslim friends who gamble but when they win most of them just throw away their money for parties or anything like that.

Anway other than Muslim is there any religion that prohibited Gamble? I'm just curious

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January 25, 2024, 11:46:47 AM
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Almost all religions that are widely adhered to by humans have principles that prohibit and require their adherents not to get involved in and avoid all forms of gambling. However, when it comes to the decision to be involved in gambling or not, it is up to each individual, this is a personal choice and can be influenced by each individual's religious beliefs.

However, it would be wiser if you were able to follow the principles taught by religion and you must be able to obey them and respect them. Because this is related to your balance and spiritual capital. Therefore, for any individual who adheres to a religion, I suggest considering the impact of gambling on your beliefs and principles.
Yes, it will be up to each individual and it can be seen how they choose. They already know that religion prohibits it but they still gamble even though they already know about it. And that will be the responsibility of each individual who still does it. This is the same as other things that are also prohibited by religion but they still do or use them. It is their choice and no one can force it unless they know their religion prohibits it.

Maybe those who still gamble think gambling is entertainment and they don't gamble too often. They think that they can still control themselves and not be triggered to gamble excessively. That is their choice too. We should return it to each individual to choose.

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January 25, 2024, 12:13:03 PM
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Almost all religions that are widely adhered to by humans have principles that prohibit and require their adherents not to get involved in and avoid all forms of gambling. However, when it comes to the decision to be involved in gambling or not, it is up to each individual, this is a personal choice and can be influenced by each individual's religious beliefs.

However, it would be wiser if you were able to follow the principles taught by religion and you must be able to obey them and respect them. Because this is related to your balance and spiritual capital. Therefore, for any individual who adheres to a religion, I suggest considering the impact of gambling on your beliefs and principles.

I think that people who are religious and believe in God are more likely not to start gambling and lead their lives to constant problems. It's just that such people won't even enter the casino because they believe it's evil. Although in my opinion everything is fine if moderately, without fanaticism. And gambling is a good antistress if you play a little and do not expect winnings from the game, but perceive gambling as a waste of money for fun.

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