Decentralize Bitcointalk

[JackMazzoni]

Bitcointalk is a forum for a decentralize money bitcoin and other cryptos. I believe bitcointalk should be hosted on decentralize hosting and decentralize domain name or there should be a back up or mirror site for bitcointalk. We don't know the future they could ban bitcoin and also ban bitcointalk.org and other websites that supports bitcoin. USA getting desperate with de dollarization or  Somewhere in the future china (2027-2030) will be the most dominant superpower would ban / sanction bitcoin.

Jack Mazzoni Ph.D.

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[SilverCryptoBullet]

Bitcointalk is a forum for a decentralize money bitcoin and other cryptos.

It is for Bitcoin as its main use. When Bitcoin created by Satoshi Nakamoto, there were not many altcoins like now. There were some few altcoins before Bitcoin creation but Bitcoin success made developers think they can build up successful altcoin projects and they created many altcoins like we have now.

I believe bitcointalk should be hosted on decentralize hosting and decentralize domain name or there should be a back up or mirror site for bitcointalk.

Do you know any decentralized server hosting service?

We don't know the future they could ban bitcoin and also ban bitcointalk.org and other websites that supports bitcoin.

If Bitcoin is banned, dead, do we need Bitcointalk?

USA getting desperate with de dollarization or  Somewhere in the future china (2027-2030) will be the most dominant superpower would ban / sanction bitcoin.

China failed to ban Bitcoin and they will not succeed.

[JackMazzoni]

They try to ban bitcoin but they cannot ban bitcoin but they can ban bitcointalk.org. If they want to ban bitcoin they will also ban bitcointalk, exchanges and blogs that supports bitcoin.

[EarnOnVictor]

I do not see a good reason why Bitcointalk should be decentralized. Wait a minute, is there anything like that when it comes to forums? Do you mean that there will not be a host or third party for the security of the forum? Even the admin will have to surrender their power and accesses?

Well, you are a joker, and in a situation like this, you see a lot of advice to the extent that those who don't fit to advise you will start advising you. Satoshi was not foolish to have made Bitcoin decentralized but the forum centralised with .org, so let it be.

This is a community, we share vital and clear information, not a secret society. What are we even running from? The forum is not lawless and I believe that the admin will continue to abide by the rule of law where applicable. So I don't see how we can be decentralised and why we should even be decentralised as it is of no use.

[Despairo]

Instead of only mention the decentralized hosting and decentralized domain name system, you should recommend which the web hosting and the DNS you refer to, I don't think that's possible. Mirror site won't solve, you're only play hide and seek until they discovered all the websites related to Bitcoin. The only way is run the site in darknet instead of clearnet, if Bitcoin is completely got banned in anywhere.

Somewhere in the future china (2027-2030) will be the most dominant superpower would ban / sanction bitcoin.

China completely ban Bitcoin since 2021, why Bitcoin and this forum wasn't get banned since 2021?

[JackMazzoni]

Instead of only mention the decentralized hosting and decentralized domain name system, you should recommend which the web hosting and the DNS you refer to, I don't think that's possible. Mirror site won't solve, you're only play hide and seek until they discovered all the websites related to Bitcoin. The only way is run the site in darknet instead of clearnet, if Bitcoin is completely got banned in anywhere.

Somewhere in the future china (2027-2030) will be the most dominant superpower would ban / sanction bitcoin.

China completely ban Bitcoin since 2021, why Bitcoin and this forum wasn't get banned since 2021?

If it is not available yet. We can create it. Don't tell me it is impossible.


I'm not talking about China now. But talking about China when it will become the most dominant Superpower. China is bound to overtake USA somewhere in 2027 -2030.

[BenCodie]

I do not see a good reason why Bitcointalk should be decentralized. Wait a minute, is there anything like that when it comes to forums? Do you mean that there will not be a host or third party for the security of the forum? Even the admin will have to surrender their power and accesses?

Well, you are a joker, and in a situation like this, you see a lot of advice to the extent that those who don't fit to advise you will start advising you. Satoshi was not foolish to have made Bitcoin decentralized but the forum centralised with .org, so let it be.

This is a community, we share vital and clear information, not a secret society. What are we even running from? The forum is not lawless and I believe that the admin will continue to abide by the rule of law where applicable. So I don't see how we can be decentralised and why we should even be decentralised as it is of no use.

Shame on you for calling the OP for having a perfectly valid argument....If BitcoinTalk could be decentralized, it should be. It'd be good for theymos to take forum responsibility off his back, and it'd be in line with what Bitcoin is all about, no central control. In fact, this forum being centralized is contradictory, and ironic.

The forum is nearly at a state where it works perfectly. Merits, Default Trust, all of these functions are serving their purposes and are improving. While not perfect, governance by the community in a decentralized way is more than possible at this point and these functions can work if they were coded into a decentralized infrastructure. It might not be able to be decentralized today, but I would say that if this became a goal, it would potentially be a viable one that could be built rather quickly given all the groundwork that is making this forum work today.

This is a community, we share vital and clear information, not a secret society. What are we even running from? The forum is not lawless and I believe that the admin will continue to abide by the rule of law where applicable. So I don't see how we can be decentralised and why we should even be decentralised as it is of no use.

Who is saying to make this forum more exclusive, or like a secret society? If anything, it being decentralized will make it more accessible, and more censorship resistant.

If the forum was decentralized, it'd be up to users to be lawful and rules could still be enforced via decentralized governance and built-in moderation powers. Moderators would be voted on by the community, and power levels would be too. Just because it would be decentralized, it doesn't mean there would be no governance.

[EarnOnVictor]

I do not see a good reason why Bitcointalk should be decentralized. Wait a minute, is there anything like that when it comes to forums? Do you mean that there will not be a host or third party for the security of the forum? Even the admin will have to surrender their power and accesses?

Well, you are a joker, and in a situation like this, you see a lot of advice to the extent that those who don't fit to advise you will start advising you. Satoshi was not foolish to have made Bitcoin decentralized but the forum centralised with .org, so let it be.

This is a community, we share vital and clear information, not a secret society. What are we even running from? The forum is not lawless and I believe that the admin will continue to abide by the rule of law where applicable. So I don't see how we can be decentralised and why we should even be decentralised as it is of no use.

Shame on you for calling the OP for having a perfectly valid argument....If BitcoinTalk could be decentralized, it should be. It'd be good for theymos to take forum responsibility off his back, and it'd be in line with what Bitcoin is all about, no central control. In fact, this forum being centralized is contradictory, and ironic.

The forum is nearly at a state where it works perfectly. Merits, Default Trust, all of these functions are serving their purposes and are improving. While not perfect, governance by the community in a decentralized way is more than possible at this point and these functions can work if they were coded into a decentralized infrastructure. It might not be able to be decentralized today, but I would say that if this became a goal, it would potentially be a viable one that could be built rather quickly given all the groundwork that is making this forum work today.

This is a community, we share vital and clear information, not a secret society. What are we even running from? The forum is not lawless and I believe that the admin will continue to abide by the rule of law where applicable. So I don't see how we can be decentralised and why we should even be decentralised as it is of no use.

Who is saying to make this forum more exclusive, or like a secret society? If anything, it being decentralized will make it more accessible, and more censorship resistant.

If the forum was decentralized, it'd be up to users to be lawful and rules could still be enforced via decentralized governance and built-in moderation powers. Moderators would be voted on by the community, and power levels would be too. Just because it would be decentralized, it doesn't mean there would be no governance.

I have promised to maintain my cool on the forum henceforth, so I will let this annoying attitude of yours pass. Alts are not difficult to know.

For your information, I don't have any reason to read your lamentation anymore since your first statement has condemned you and shown who you are. I know your silly type, it is never worth my time.

Calling out shame in a strong term because someone expresses his opinion shows how trolling and immature you are. But I am not the type that you express your ignoble attitude towards you this immature brat. Nonetheless, I return your shame back to you and your generation in multiple folds.

Welcome to my ignore list...The very first since I joined this forum!

[digaran]

@OP, the reason as to why Bitcoin will never be banned worldwide is because us Bitcoiners are more dangerous without Bitcoin, while as long as we are happy and friendly with having Bitcoin, which means by having it, we'd have a seat around the table of big guns in the world, and as soon as they take away our seat, we will destroy the table. So either they play along, or there will be no game for them to play either.
So there is no need to decentralize this forum, now that they know who they are dealing with.

[_act_]

Bitcointalk is a forum for a decentralize money bitcoin and other cryptos. I believe bitcointalk should be hosted on decentralize hosting and decentralize domain name or there should be a back up or mirror site for bitcointalk. We don't know the future they could ban bitcoin and also ban bitcointalk.org and other websites that supports bitcoin. USA getting desperate with de dollarization or  Somewhere in the future china (2027-2030) will be the most dominant superpower would ban / sanction bitcoin.

Bitcoin has been accepted in the world. There is no sign that bitcoin would be banned. I can only see more adoption. See United States SEC now that wants to approve bitcoin spot ETF. Nobody will also ban this forum, but what I do not like about this forum recently is the censorship that will start in January 1, 2024, but it is still for the good and progress of the forum.

[JackMazzoni]

Bitcointalk is a forum for a decentralize money bitcoin and other cryptos. I believe bitcointalk should be hosted on decentralize hosting and decentralize domain name or there should be a back up or mirror site for bitcointalk. We don't know the future they could ban bitcoin and also ban bitcointalk.org and other websites that supports bitcoin. USA getting desperate with de dollarization or  Somewhere in the future china (2027-2030) will be the most dominant superpower would ban / sanction bitcoin.

Bitcoin has been accepted in the world. There is no sign that bitcoin would be banned. I can only see more adoption. See United States SEC now that wants to approve bitcoin spot ETF. Nobody will also ban this forum, but what I do not like about this forum recently is the censorship that will start in January 1, 2024, but it is still for the good and progress of the forum.

Censorship like banning mixers would not happen under decentralize bitcointalk.org. Bitcointalk.org is not truly free until it is decentralize.  We are at the mercy of big nations. We are like a naked girl bending waiting to be ######.

[SamReomo]

I agree that a decentralized forum may work for the ones who prefer privacy and want to do whatever they want to do but I'm more than sure it's not going to be possible. Even many websites that tried to do that were known to be as fail experiments and that's why the web system may not go decentralized if you want to maintain a good balance of things.

Bitcoin is decentralized because it's not control by a single person or a group of people but a forum or a website in general is controlled by a person or a group of people and we can't change that thing. Ah, maybe we can change that when we have someone like Satoshi who create Robots and implement decentralization theory in them and then make them work as humans but that would be a more controversial and out of topic, and Science fiction thing than a part of reality.

[Igebotz]

For your information, I don't have any reason to read your lamentation anymore since your first statement has condemned you and shown who you are. I know your silly type, it is never worth my time.

Calling out shame in a strong term because someone expresses his opinion shows how trolling and immature you are. But I am not the type that you express your ignoble attitude towards you this immature brat. Nonetheless, I return your shame back to you and your generation in multiple folds.

Welcome to my ignore list...The very first since I joined this forum!

You started off on the wrong foot with no awareness of Decentralization, and someone pointed it out to you, only for you to drop the bomb and add him to your ignored list?

Decentralized forums allow individuals authority over their own data. The forum is presently hosted on a centralized server, which gives theymos less control over the data. The government decides what they want to see. (already asked the forum not to advertise mixers).

Decentralized hosting entails hosting our webfile on multiple nodes, which is too costly, this is another reason why web owners prefer to keep it on a centralised server.

[nutildah]

I don't think its a terrible idea necessarily but it would likely result in a slower, more cumbersome experience, with the potential for bad actors to ruin its historical legacy. I prefer the idea of leaving the forum exactly as the way it was during the time of satoshi. When visitors come here to read satoshi's old posts, I can't help but think they'd want to read them in an environment/layout that was exactly the same way as it was when he wrote them.

We are living inside a historical museum; we should treat it and regard it as such.

[digaran]

(already asked the forum not to advertise mixers).

This is an odd and bold statement from a traitor, after all you above all should know this is not true, no government agency asked this forum to stop facilitating the advertisement of mixers, as a moderator of altcoinhack forum you should know this.
Unless your garbage forum and it's KYC verified admin is not hosted in US and the admin is not actually KYC verified as stated on his profile, which makes him a liar. And one has to wonder as to why they hired you as a moderator without doing any background checks on you. I guess they were too desperate and as soon as they saw you are a DT here, they thought it's the best move to make. While they have no idea that you have zero influence here, at least they didn't count on me to be active around these woods. Only if I manage to figure out who the admin is over there. None of you traitors will be safe here then.

[Igebotz]

(already asked the forum not to advertise mixers).

This is an odd and bold statement from a traitor, after all you above all should know this is not true, no government agency asked this forum to stop facilitating the advertisement of mixers, as a moderator of altcoinhack forum you should know this.
Unless your garbage forum and it's KYC verified admin is not hosted in US and the admin is not actually KYC verified as stated on his profile, which makes him a liar. And one has to wonder as to why they hired you as a moderator without doing any background checks on you. I guess they were too desperate and as soon as they saw you are a DT here, they thought it's the best move to make. While they have no idea that you have zero influence here, at least they didn't count on me to be active around these woods. Only if I manage to figure out who the admin is over there. None of you traitors will be safe here then.

You just never know! When you're under the government's thumb, each decision has an impact on you. You, of all people, should be aware of this. Whoever feeds you has authority over you.

It's nearly 2024, brother- How do you feel about becoming a troll bot? Isn't it past time for a change?

[criptoevangelista]

There is no need to decentralize the forum, everything is fine the way it is, after all, we need someone to manage all of this, or what do you think it would be like? It would be a total mess, right?

[stompix]

The government decides what they want to see. (already asked the forum not to advertise mixers).

When did this happen?

We've received no warnings or requests to change policy from law enforcement regarding mixers.

USA getting desperate with de dollarization

Yeah, they are so afraid of it they are pissing their pants...of joy!
They are going to ban a forum in which payments are going to be made soon in USDT because of the fees and campaign are already paying in in $ denominated value not Bitcoin. This forum is the complete opposite of what you're envision, if it does one thing is spreading the dollar as everything discuss here is in $ value!

[Lucius]

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I'm not talking about China now. But talking about China when it will become the most dominant Superpower. China is bound to overtake USA somewhere in 2027 -2030.

Given that this forum is located on a server in the US, do you believe that one day when China becomes a "dominant superpower" (whatever that means) that same China will conquer the US and ban this forum?

China has already had internet censorship for a long time, as has Russia, where this forum is banned - but that in itself speaks volumes about them as countries that are actually regressing in terms of human rights, regardless of the theory about some kind of superpowers. At the moment, decentralization would only be possible if the forum were moved to a server located in a country like North Korea, but let's ask what would happen only then, not only in the sense that the forum would come under general surveillance, but that the privacy and security of all forum members would be threatened, unless you think you can be completely anonymous online?

[tranthidung]

The government decides what they want to see. (already asked the forum not to advertise mixers).

When did this happen?

Theymos did not ask it, government did not ask theymos to do it.

Theymos only asked forum staffs to stop advertising mixers through signature campaigns after the CM break down.

We (staff) were asked to stop advertising mixing services.