Are there long-term profitable sports bettors?

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I can see some people saying that bookies will reduce the odd of someone that is winning. That is not true in my opinion. I can also see that they said they will block the account of the person that is always winning. Maybe that is true, but I do not know.

In reducing odds, it is not true because not that a gambler is the target. Bookies can see some people selecting what will not pay them, or that is not paying them, after they have noticed, they reduce the odd. Not only that they reduce the odd at times, they may also reduce the maximum amount of money that you can use to stake with the type of the selection, but I only noticed this on a gambling site before. It is also good to know that after the odd has been reduced and they see people winning than the amount they are gaining from that type of selection, then they will removed the section so that no one will be able to select and stake it again.

Casinos are crazy for stopping a gambler from betting when they have hit a hot streak. Everyone knows the house always wins in the long run. Really I don't think a casino should be allowed to tell a person they can no longer gamble unless they're caught cheating, but that's not the way it is.

Are there long term sports bettors in profit? Probably a few scattered throughout the world, but I personally do not know any.

I am gambling but I lose more in sport betting than I gain. Among my friends that are gambling, we are all losing. I have not also seen anyone that is a sport gambler that won more than lost before. In your first paragraph, you mentioned casino. I think that is a mistake because this thread is about sport gamblers and they make use of bookies/bookmakers to gamble, not casinos.

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[Yogee]

[....] I can also see that they said they will block the account if the person that is always winning. Maybe that is true, but I do not know.

What would usually happen based on the cases that I've read so far is that the bookie would limit the gamblers allowed bet.
This gambler would try to find a workaround to bypass the limit and that includes creating other accounts.
More than one account is usually prohibited so the bookie blocks all accounts.

It's an indirect way of saying that the player is not welcome to bet anymore.

[SmartGold01]

The presenter claims that he does not know any profitable players over a period of several years. There are rumors that such players allegedly exist. But where are they and who saw them?

There may be one but it is very hard to find them out there because I have seen lots of people whom we know to be gambler but are driving good cars and living well with their family's, and such person can never use a particular gambling site to place their bets because when a particular site or bookmaker often noticed that a particular account is regularly winning then they might began to place some restrictions on the account.

What do you think? Are there profitable players in sports betting?

We also know that gambling is a luck based game and winning is not certain so even though there are people out there winning we should know it's not always constant maybe it could be ones per week or twice per month.

[slapper]

The house always win (that's their specialty). Bookmakers want to earn. But does this mean there are no long-term profitable bettors? Not always. Consider a world where a small percentage of players use skill, discipline, and luck. They know the games, follow patterns, and are mathematicians rather than gamblers. You know, these unusual birds may be flying beneath the radar?

The gentleman who worked with the gamblers, he's seen the dark side, and his words carry weight. In this cutthroat industry, the house routinely cuts the wings of the high-flyers. But now I'm cautiously optimistic. Despite the bookies' toughness, sensible, responsible enjoyment is possible. Discipline and risk awareness are essential. Gambling should be about fun, not money. So, are there profitable players out there? Of crouse. But they are super hero in this story

[maydna]

No bookmaker wants to experience losses by finding its gamblers winning too often. They will try to prevent these gamblers from winning more often, especially those who still win big often. If they only win with small wins, the bookmaker still allows them to keep betting. There are profitable players in sports betting. It's just that we don't know for sure because they also don't say that they are the lucky players. This is normal because they can keep betting on sports betting without anyone knowing about their winnings. Apart from that, they can also hide their identity from other people because if someone finds out, they will ask that person for tips.

[Solosanz]

Theoretically someone can able to make profit trough betting on sports since the decision depends on us and as long as we're correctly guessing the result, we will make money. Most of the casinos prefer to limit your account instead of block your account, block an account seems too harsh.

maybe they are former gambling employees or maybe they are hackers but not sure if they really exist and I never knew them.

There's no need to hack or become a gambling employee to win sports, everyone has a same chance. It's not slots or in house game if you know the hash, you will able to predict the outcome.

[Wexnident]

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They exist most likely. I mean if the issue is the bookmaker then just switch casinos really. And if someone can reliably support his gambling tendencies in the long run, I've no doubt switching would be that difficult in the first place.

But they're probably in the minority since really, "stable" is not a word I'd use to describe gamblers. They're more on the side of wanting to risk it all at once and win it all. Otherwise they'd be doing an 8hr job instead of gambling.

[EarnOnVictor]

I wanted to open a new discussion on this issue. I recently watched a video about gamblers. There was a presenter who helps gambling addicts get out of the dark streak in their lives. He worked in the bookmaking business for many years. He believes that there are no long-term profitable players in sports betting. This is impossible by definition. If you start to win often, the bookmaker company begins to cut your odds, either reduce your winnings or block your accounts. It's as if the bookmaker is telling you, "You're not here to get rich." The presenter claims that he does not know any profitable players over a period of several years. There are rumors that such players allegedly exist. But where are they and who saw them? What do you think? Are there profitable players in sports betting?

I say a capital YES to this and I am a typical example of it. If it is a casino, I would say I don't know, but for sports betting, this is very possible, only that most people are not good in some kind of proper betting style and they do not manage their betting and the account properly. Taking too much risk while betting is one of the reasons why bettors lose easily, they will try so hard but will continue to lose due to greed and lack of good plan. If you are betting on sports, there are some games you don't think of betting on, once the risk is too high, you do not waste your money on them unless you prepared to waste money or use a very small amount of money to try your luck.

My style is to be betting on straight winnings that are independent of each other. I might bet 5 games but they will be independent of each other. So that if one loses, it won't affect the others. Even if some would be dependent on each other, I make sure that it is either 2 games or 3 at most so that I will not painfully lose these games. The money to earn through this approach is not as high as the money people expect from the ones that are dependent of each other. But I can assure you that you win more regularly than them even if they are better forecaster than you, while most of them might not have a single winning for months.

[klidex]

Actually, I don't know for sure about people who are said to be successful in their bets or always win in their bets because basically I only heard rumors from various media but I don't know for sure about that. But if indeed the casino limits gamblers who always win and reducing the opportunity, I think is quite impossible if it's sports betting, especially sports betting that requires skill, but if it's a luck-based game, I think the bookie can still regulate it by reducing the opportunity.

Many people think that sports betting can give us consistent and long-term profits, as I have read in threads on gambling discussions (if you wish, you can look for it). Indeed, we can still use sports betting with the skills we have if we bet on big matches, Sports bookies cannot control winnings because big matches definitely have a high reputation so we can still use gambling with long-term profits but we cannot fully expect the winnings or hope to win consistently and in the long term.

[roksana.hee]

The reliance on rumors and media reports certainly adds an element of ambiguity. I'm curious, have you personally engaged in sports betting or gambling? Your insights on the distinction between skill-based and luck-based games are thought-provoking.

Do you believe there are effective strategies for consistent long-term profits in sports betting, especially when it comes to big matches?

I'd love to hear more about your experiences and opinions on this matter.

[CODE200]

I haven't seen one in all my years that are profitable with their gambling habits so I wouldn't say that they're a lot of people but I can definitely see long-term players that have been in the sportsbetting game for a long time because they've profited out of that, what @Oshosondy said is a logical reason behind the reason why we are asking these questions, it's because they're so few in between that we haven't met one so we conclude they don't exist and the system of how gambling works is that the house wins more than the gamblers.

[rahmad2nd]

I wanted to open a new discussion on this issue. I recently watched a video about gamblers. There was a presenter who helps gambling addicts get out of the dark streak in their lives. He worked in the bookmaking business for many years. He believes that there are no long-term profitable players in sports betting. This is impossible by definition. If you start to win often, the bookmaker company begins to cut your odds, either reduce your winnings or block your accounts. It's as if the bookmaker is telling you, "You're not here to get rich." The presenter claims that he does not know any profitable players over a period of several years. There are rumors that such players allegedly exist. But where are they and who saw them? What do you think? Are there profitable players in sports betting?

Are there long-term profitable sports bettors?, I'm not sure and don't have the answer. because, I don't know how anyone is with their sports betting. we don't even have authentic data related to what you said in this thread. specifically, the claims made by a presenter said in this thread. I would also underline his statement, that he believes there are no long-term profitable plays in sports betting. I tried to think rationally, what the presenter meant. I mean, overall. because in gambling, especially sports, there are many options that we can do. if there is no ideal betting option for me, I will not have a betting session.

In addition, the presenter provides statements for other points. I ask again, what percentage of gamblers win compared to gamblers who lose? there is no need to even limit someone because of their winnings, because gradually someone will experience a phase where they will lose and this applies to gambling. then, why should a casino bother restricting every movement of its customers. especially, if the casino has a very trustworthy and credible reputation. and, wouldn't that have an impact on the big name they have built so far? back to what I said at the beginning, I can't answer that. because I gamble only with a limited bankroll within my means. so far, I have been betting on football for quite a long time. if you win you win, if you lose you lose. nothing limits me from betting even when I consistently win every bet I make. the question is, is there any validation provided by the presenter? or, this is just based on his opinion.

[Julien_Olynpic]

I wanted to open a new discussion on this issue. I recently watched a video about gamblers. There was a presenter who helps gambling addicts get out of the dark streak in their lives. He worked in the bookmaking business for many years. He believes that there are no long-term profitable players in sports betting. This is impossible by definition. If you start to win often, the bookmaker company begins to cut your odds, either reduce your winnings or block your accounts. It's as if the bookmaker is telling you, "You're not here to get rich." The presenter claims that he does not know any profitable players over a period of several years. There are rumors that such players allegedly exist. But where are they and who saw them? What do you think? Are there profitable players in sports betting?

I say a capital YES to this and I am a typical example of it. If it is a casino, I would say I don't know, but for sports betting, this is very possible, only that most people are not good in some kind of proper betting style and they do not manage their betting and the account properly. Taking too much risk while betting is one of the reasons why bettors lose easily, they will try so hard but will continue to lose due to greed and lack of good plan. If you are betting on sports, there are some games you don't think of betting on, once the risk is too high, you do not waste your money on them unless you prepared to waste money or use a very small amount of money to try your luck.

My style is to be betting on straight winnings that are independent of each other. I might bet 5 games but they will be independent of each other. So that if one loses, it won't affect the others. Even if some would be dependent on each other, I make sure that it is either 2 games or 3 at most so that I will not painfully lose these games. The money to earn through this approach is not as high as the money people expect from the ones that are dependent of each other. But I can assure you that you win more regularly than them even if they are better forecaster than you, while most of them might not have a single winning for months.

I think you are the only one in this thread who explicitly claims that he has been a profitable player for several years. The rest of the users just write uncleaned things. There are probably profitable long-term players, but I do not know them. Could you share some statistics about your winnings? How much do your winnings exceed your losses? During what period do you make a profit? Does your profit allow you to give up employment and live as if you were living as an employee?
Excuse me for my curiosity, it's just that such people are probably a big anomaly.
And another thing: I would like to ask users in this topic to name specific names, and not just "maybe they are, but I do not know them." There are profitable long-term games in poker. There you can name specific names.

[Quidat]

I haven't seen one in all my years that are profitable with their gambling habits so I wouldn't say that they're a lot of people but I can definitely see long-term players that have been in the sportsbetting game for a long time because they've profited out of that, what @Oshosondy said is a logical reason behind the reason why we are asking these questions, it's because they're so few in between that we haven't met one so we conclude they don't exist and the system of how gambling works is that the house wins more than the gamblers.

There would really be a total mixed up on which we know that this market is really that composed by those losers and winners. There's no way that you could be able to determine on whose are
long time profitable gambler and whose really just that a total loser whose really that continuing on spending his money on doing gambling. This is why it is really that hard to tell on whose the one
is really that making money aside from seeing those stats but we know that it could be hidden or private but we do know that house itself does know on whose those players that they are making
money despite of having  those loses along the way. Just like been mentioned that they could be potentially be locked on their accounts because businesses like these
doesnt really like to those people who do keep on winning or simply just being profitable.

[Hirose UK]

No bookmaker wants to experience losses by finding its gamblers winning too often. They will try to prevent these gamblers from winning more often, especially those who still win big often. If they only win with small wins, the bookmaker still allows them to keep betting. There are profitable players in sports betting. It's just that we don't know for sure because they also don't say that they are the lucky players. This is normal because they can keep betting on sports betting without anyone knowing about their winnings. Apart from that, they can also hide their identity from other people because if someone finds out, they will ask that person for tips.

Usually bookies will fool gamblers by giving unreasonable odds and this is very effective in making gamblers make mistakes when choosing the team or player to bet on.
So far there are no various ways that gamblers can actually make bookies suffer massive losses unless there is luck factor that is on the gamblers side, there are also some things that are quite annoying, namely placing limits on gamblers who often win the bet.
Isn't this very unfortunate thing because bookmakers always use various methods to prevent gamblers from winning, but even so, I still believe that big bookmakers will never disappoint gamblers, especially loyal customers.

But you are right that no one will admit that they have carried out various betting activities that are often carried out, what more, for win they will always hide every win they get, apart from avoiding requests for tips and also to avoid bad things such as blackmail or robbery.
Moreover, there are many smart people like hackers who can break into the private wallets that we use.

[Yatsan]

Well yes. Not to brag but I can count myself as one of them but not earning as much as with big bettors. However, likewise with majority of gamblers, I suffered from loss on my early months in sports betting and a year and half with casino games. It was only lately when I realized that managing my bankroll would be better for a long run than to always seek for that jackpot win. I've said it before; chasing big wins will leave you with loss in the long run. Imagine winning 1/100betting sessions which won't be consistent and could take longer; you'll just be frustrated along the way which is the thing we should avoid as gamblers. Sports betting is different and is a better category in this industry 'coz analysis would change the odds of winning and losing unlike with pure luck gambling games, not to mention mor entertaining as well.

I haven't seen one in all my years that are profitable with their gambling habits so I wouldn't say that they're a lot of people but I can definitely see long-term players that have been in the sportsbetting game for a long time because they've profited out of that, what @Oshosondy said is a logical reason behind the reason why we are asking these questions, it's because they're so few in between that we haven't met one so we conclude they don't exist and the system of how gambling works is that the house wins more than the gamblers.

There would really be a total mixed up on which we know that this market is really that composed by those losers and winners. There's no way that you could be able to determine on whose are
long time profitable gambler and whose really just that a total loser whose really that continuing on spending his money on doing gambling. This is why it is really that hard to tell on whose the one
is really that making money aside from seeing those stats but we know that it could be hidden or private but we do know that house itself does know on whose those players that they are making
money despite of having  those loses along the way. Just like been mentioned that they could be potentially be locked on their accounts because businesses like these
doesnt really like to those people who do keep on winning or simply just being profitable.

Only the gambler himself/herself would know if he's in 'gains' or loss. Also, not because you are profitable means you are winning most of the time; no consistency there is in gambling. No matter what gambling category we are spending our times with, luck will not always in accordance with our will and bets. It is no longer between the times you are winning over times you are losing but the ratio of your winnings and losses.

[topbitcoin]

Maybe there are, but not many... and indeed casinos that don't behave fairly towards their customers may deliberately limit their customers' winnings, especially if the customers are skilled enough in analyzing and are able to make accurate predictions. accurate analysis results. Because a customer's win is a loss for the casino, and a customer's loss is a win for the casino, especially if the customer is addicted to gambling. For casinos, gambling is a business that must make a profit from this business, because they also have employees who must be paid every month, and there are taxes that they must pay every year, so that the casino can continue to run.

Therefore, apart from us having to continue to improve our abilities in betting or gambling... we also have to be smarter in understanding and choosing the casinos we will visit. And the most important thing is to play wisely, don't expect too much from gambling, because it's about probability.

[Rufsilf]

I wanted to open a new discussion on this issue. I recently watched a video about gamblers. There was a presenter who helps gambling addicts get out of the dark streak in their lives. He worked in the bookmaking business for many years. He believes that there are no long-term profitable players in sports betting. This is impossible by definition. If you start to win often, the bookmaker company begins to cut your odds, either reduce your winnings or block your accounts. It's as if the bookmaker is telling you, "You're not here to get rich." The presenter claims that he does not know any profitable players over a period of several years. There are rumors that such players allegedly exist. But where are they and who saw them? What do you think? Are there profitable players in sports betting?

There are certain long-term profitable sports bettors who have achieved success by disciplines, techniques, and of course, efficient bankroll management, even though a majority of bettors may not be continuously profitable.  Of course, there are many more obstacles in your way if you want to succeed in achieving your goal. In order to be successful when you bet, you should become familiar with each player and the flow of the game, keeping in mind that sports betting is unexpected and that there are certain doubtful games where the games you are betting on are being cheated.

It's likely that the bookies will place restrictions on your winnings, particularly if you win big amounts of money on a regular basis. This could be done to protect their profits. 

[lombok]

Usually bookies will fool gamblers by giving unreasonable odds and this is very effective in making gamblers make mistakes when choosing the team or player to bet on.

This seems more reasonable. And maybe I've had it, when a player is complacent and I feel that myself, I place bets only based on the odds displayed on the gambling site without looking at and analyzing the soccer team, even though there are some who lose, there are also those who win. However, if this is a matter of luck and in addition, this is just a guess in a football game, it is normal if the results do not match predictions, because on the field anything can happen.

[Eternad]

This seems more reasonable. And maybe I've had it, when a player is complacent and I feel that myself, I place bets only based on the odds displayed on the gambling site without looking at and analyzing the soccer team, even though there are some who lose, there are also those who win. However, if this is a matter of luck and in addition, this is just a guess in a football game, it is normal if the results do not match predictions, because on the field anything can happen.

Betting blindly using odds as reference is just missing the point of playing on the sportsbook. Just simply place bet on dice game and set odds to your desired amount instead of having trouble on betting to sportsbook that has a much higher house edge if you will just bet based on odds.

If you will just rely on your luck then make sure to do it on low house edge games that will give extra boost on your winning chance rate.