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January 03, 2024, 10:26:37 AM
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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.

Luis Nery is the front runner to fight Inoue because he is the WBC ranked number 1 fighter, a mandatory fight of some sort but if Team Inoue opts out or doesn't want to fight Nery in Las Vegas as he is banned in Japan and they want to fight for a voluntary defense against Casimero which is very likely as Quadro Alas is the rank top 3 in the WBO rankings.

Casimero's chance of fighting Inoue this year is high because it's Team Inoue who floated his name to be one of their ward's opponents plus the taunting which might have affected Inoue hehe.
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January 03, 2024, 10:35:05 AM
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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
But i do believe that Tapales would be much having that stamina compared to Casimero if we do really just based up into his previous fights and this is the biggest cons or flaw that i do saw on Casimero.
This guy sure loves to have some talks but i doubt that he could really be able to stood on what he had been talking trash against Inoue, i dont know if he do really mean it or really just trying out to hype the fight.
I dont see for  this boxer or fighter to be able to get toe to toe with Inoue in terms of speed and power then i could say that he might be the one would really be sleeping on the canvass.

Yes, he had the power but i doubt on the speed and the stamina. If he would be able to make out some long rounds.If he could really be able to make some nasty counter
and able to survive further rounds and made out some solid shots then he might have the chance but i do still highly doubt that for it to happen.

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January 04, 2024, 07:13:20 AM
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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.

Luis Nery is the front runner to fight Inoue because he is the WBC ranked number 1 fighter, a mandatory fight of some sort but if Team Inoue opts out or doesn't want to fight Nery in Las Vegas as he is banned in Japan and they want to fight for a voluntary defense against Casimero which is very likely as Quadro Alas is the rank top 3 in the WBO rankings.

Casimero's chance of fighting Inoue this year is high because it's Team Inoue who floated his name to be one of their ward's opponents plus the taunting which might have affected Inoue hehe.

Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

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January 04, 2024, 11:27:58 AM
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).
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January 04, 2024, 12:18:46 PM
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.

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January 04, 2024, 12:48:11 PM
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.
I don't know who Sam Goodman is but he is currently the number 1 in the ranking, followed by Neri then Casimero. Murodjon Akhmadaliev is just number 6 in the ranking, so I don't understand why Inoue had missed to mention Sam Goodman. Honestly, I don't know this guy, but I'm surprise he is in the number 1 ranking. So if Inoue will fight the challenger in WBO, he could fight Sam Goodman and then Casimero vs Nery, winners of both fight will afce each other, how's that sound?

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January 04, 2024, 12:58:21 PM
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The only thing that will make that match possible is if there's a lot of money that's going to be involved and the right people will have their palms greased, there's no way that they're going to get that fight again quickly. I mean why are they so quick at having a rematch, didn't Inoue won the last fight with an astounding performance? Are they trying to dethrone the Monster as a champion? As much as I like to criticize what they've been doing, I think the boxing federations that's currently managing and making these fights possible needs a complete rework and clean house because the federation is so corrupt, the right boxers don't get the right fights because of the corruption.



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January 05, 2024, 03:58:06 AM
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.

One thing Team Casimero could do to get a match with Inoue is to a WBO elimination fight with Sam Goodman and the winner will be the number 1 rank and the mandatory challenger for the WBO belt. I don't if this could be done as Sam Goodman is also the mandatory challenger for the IBF belt. I would say that it's only luck for Casimero to land a fight with Inoue with the recent performance that he had.
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The only thing that will make that match possible is if there's a lot of money that's going to be involved and the right people will have their palms greased, there's no way that they're going to get that fight again quickly.

It's not a concern anymore, they build a hype for a long time so people already know if this will happen they are gonna grab a PPV subscription for this. Usually, it's on the PPV that generate a lot of money as it's worldwide, and before that Tapales vs Inoue fight which I think does not generate a lot of money, this Inoue vs Casimero has been rumored already.

I hope it will happen this year, there's plenty of time to make it to reality, so hang tight and we will eventually see a fight where Inoue would not easily dominate his opponent. (I believe on that).

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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.
He will go on like this until he gets the fight, I'm surprised that the Inoue camp is not annoyed by Casimero's trick, it seems like they get used to it and just concentrate on whoever their promotion and the organization will give it to him, but as this point, he will have to toe the line and wait for Inoue to give him attention after all he is the undisputed champion he gets to say who he wants to fight.

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However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shots. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
Against Neri, it is going to be a good fight, but Inoue is at his strongest and he is very comfortable in that weight so I cannot think of anyone in that division who can beat Inoue, he is just so good that he is being compared to champions in the higher divisions like Tank Davis.

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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.
He will go on like this until he gets the fight, I'm surprised that the Inoue camp is not annoyed by Casimero's trick, it seems like they get used to it and just concentrate on whoever their promotion and the organization will give it to him, but as this point, he will have to toe the line and wait for Inoue to give him attention after all he is the undisputed champion he gets to say who he wants to fight.

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However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shots. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
Against Neri, it is going to be a good fight, but Inoue is at his strongest and he is very comfortable in that weight so I cannot think of anyone in that division who can beat Inoue, he is just so good that he is being compared to champions in the higher divisions like Tank Davis.

For now, Inoue is their best money maker so it wouldn't make sense if they match him to someone who could possibly knock him out. It will ruin the record too. Inoue hasn't been knocking some top-rated Mexican boxers yet, they will likely want to see more of these than having him knocked out by Casimero.

Keeping him winning more fights must be a plan for this guy until he reaches certain limits where he finds it difficult to defeat someone.


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This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

Read, for more story here/

Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue


A fight with Inoue represents a lot of money, that's why Gibbons is suddenly interested in working with Casimero again. Neither Gibbons, nor MP Promotions, represent Inoue so they have no power to actually make that fight happen. In the past Gibbons has prevented good fights from happening like Loma vs. Salido and Ryan Garcia vs. Pitbull Cruz because he was greedy and wanted too much money. Casimero can get the Inoue fight on his own as long as he can win impressively in his next fights.

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This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

Read, for more story here/

Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue


A fight with Inoue represents a lot of money, that's why Gibbons is suddenly interested in working with Casimero again. Neither Gibbons, nor MP Promotions, represent Inoue so they have no power to actually make that fight happen. In the past Gibbons has prevented good fights from happening like Loma vs. Salido and Ryan Garcia vs. Pitbull Cruz because he was greedy and wanted too much money. Casimero can get the Inoue fight on his own as long as he can win impressively in his next fights.
And with that argument, we really need to see who's Casimero fighting next and he should really win big or expressive regardless of who he is fighting next. He can't just go and leap over the likes of Neri and Akhmadaliev that has been mentioned by Inoue's camp for now.

So impressive win, a big knockout and maybe the camp of Inoue will say yes. But I don't know if Gibbons will be in the middle though, and I don't think that Casimero will just go and repair his relationship with MP or Gibbons himself.

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So impressive win, a big knockout and maybe the camp of Inoue will say yes. But I don't know if Gibbons will be in the middle though, and I don't think that Casimero will just go and repair his relationship with MP or Gibbons himself.

Inoue already showed his interest on fighting Casimero but its a matter of when. 

Aside from Casimero, Inoue still would like to fight Neri and Akhmadaliev. So if Inoue will prioritizes the two, most likely Casimero will not be able to fight Inoue this year as Inoue only fights twice in a year, his max, based on his boxing records. Worst if Inoue will both beat Akhmadaliev and Neri, and will decide to move up, that would left Casimero chasing Inoue. In that case Casimero could become a champion in the super bantamweight if Inoue leave, but he'll not be able to prove himself against Inoue.

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Inoue already showed his interest on fighting Casimero but its a matter of when. 

Aside from Casimero, Inoue still would like to fight Neri and Akhmadaliev. So if Inoue will prioritizes the two, most likely Casimero will not be able to fight Inoue this year as Inoue only fights twice in a year, his max, based on his boxing records. Worst if Inoue will both beat Akhmadaliev and Neri, and will decide to move up, that would left Casimero chasing Inoue. In that case Casimero could become a champion in the super bantamweight if Inoue leave, but he'll not be able to prove himself against Inoue.

So many things are going to happen this year, Casimero should do the chasing here since he is the challenger in his next fight he should show improvement by knocking out whoever his opponent is, his last two fights were not good so the Inoue team put him out of the radar, Casimero is all talks, while Inoue is eyeing who are the top boxers in his division if you're the champion you will look who is the closest contender and some champions cherry picked but I don't think Inoue will cherry pick fighters.

If he can't secure a fight against Inoue, and Inoue decides to move up, it is not Inoue's fault so he should just shut up and just concentrate on getting a title,  he blew it by going out on MP promotions who can give him decent fights and are good in securing big fights

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January 05, 2024, 05:54:36 PM
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If he can't secure a fight against Inoue, and Inoue decides to move up, it is not Inoue's fault so he should just shut up and just concentrate on getting a title,  he blew it by going out on MP promotions who can give him decent fights and are good in securing big fights

John Riel Casimero can secure a big fight even without the help of MP Promotions during the time he's a champion. Everything goes well but their camp blew the rules of the Britain Boxing Council before the supposed fight between Casimero and Paul Butler. If only Casimero's team didn't mess up, we already see now who's the winner between Casimero and Naoya Inoue.

It's hard to get Casimero on the line against Inoue even MP Promotions will work on it today. Naoya Inoue has nothing to gain if he fights Casimero as a challenger. For Casimero to be considered, he needs to be a top contender. He can't just go directly with undisputed champion not unless Top Rank and Inoue will push on it but that's impossible.
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Inoue already showed his interest on fighting Casimero but its a matter of when. 

Aside from Casimero, Inoue still would like to fight Neri and Akhmadaliev. So if Inoue will prioritizes the two, most likely Casimero will not be able to fight Inoue this year as Inoue only fights twice in a year, his max, based on his boxing records. Worst if Inoue will both beat Akhmadaliev and Neri, and will decide to move up, that would left Casimero chasing Inoue. In that case Casimero could become a champion in the super bantamweight if Inoue leave, but he'll not be able to prove himself against Inoue.

So many things are going to happen this year, Casimero should do the chasing here since he is the challenger in his next fight he should show improvement by knocking out whoever his opponent is, his last two fights were not good so the Inoue team put him out of the radar, Casimero is all talks, while Inoue is eyeing who are the top boxers in his division if you're the champion you will look who is the closest contender and some champions cherry picked but I don't think Inoue will cherry pick fighters.

If he can't secure a fight against Inoue, and Inoue decides to move up, it is not Inoue's fault so he should just shut up and just concentrate on getting a title,  he blew it by going out on MP promotions who can give him decent fights and are good in securing big fights

A KO will only happen if he will stop fighting Japanes oppenents, especially if the fight is held in Japan. The last fight of Casimero is quite controversial, although we've seen him slowed down a bit by I believe the fight should have ended a KO on his favorite, but it was declared as no contest.

You know, his last fight with a Japanese prior to Yukinori Oguni was decided as no contest but later on it was change to KO since Ryo Akaho he really loss on that fight. You know, if without the "best actor" performance, Casimero could probably have won another KO.

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January 17, 2024, 11:14:26 AM
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.

One thing Team Casimero could do to get a match with Inoue is to a WBO elimination fight with Sam Goodman and the winner will be the number 1 rank and the mandatory challenger for the WBO belt. I don't if this could be done as Sam Goodman is also the mandatory challenger for the IBF belt. I would say that it's only luck for Casimero to land a fight with Inoue with the recent performance that he had.
According to recent reports, Naoya Inoue and Luis Nery have already agreed on a deal for their match in Japan. I figured Inoue would not battle Nery in the USA for this championship match. Perhaps this match will be viewed as obligatory by the WBC which implies that the WBO is the last remaining organization that has no mandatory challenger for its belt.

To land Inoue, Casimero can match with boxers in the WBO rank list and perform perfectly. The WBO would examine it and if luck is with Casimero, he would be allowed to become its mandatory challenger and it would be on Inoue to grant or leave the belt behind because there are plans to climb another weight class.

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January 17, 2024, 11:49:28 AM
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According to recent reports, Naoya Inoue and Luis Nery have already agreed on a deal for their match in Japan. I figured Inoue would not battle Nery in the USA for this championship match. Perhaps this match will be viewed as obligatory by the WBC which implies that the WBO is the last remaining organization that has no mandatory challenger for its belt.
The ban was lift just that quick, it's quite questionable but we know the intention that they want Inoue to fight in Japan (still). Maybe on the next division when Inoue will move up, we will see him fighting in the US, right now, they want to ensure that Inoue will not lose or will be cheated, whatever they are thinking, it's for the best interest of their fighter who are prediction to make a history.

To land Inoue, Casimero can match with boxers in the WBO rank list and perform perfectly. The WBO would examine it and if luck is with Casimero, he would be allowed to become its mandatory challenger and it would be on Inoue to grant or leave the belt behind because there are plans to climb another weight class.

Casimero is currently ranked at number 3 if we are talking of WBO.

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Looks like its getting more impossible for this fight to takes place any time soon but we wanted to see this match takes place anytime it is available .

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