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January 17, 2024, 12:33:44 PM
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Looks like its getting more impossible for this fight to takes place any time soon but we wanted to see this match takes place anytime it is available .

I for now will accumulate money to use as betting here if goes possible in the future.

Maybe it will not happen anytime soon but I don't think it's impossible to happen. As long as Casimero will not retire and he will continue to follow Inoue then I believe the time will come that they will eventually meet. Casimero is a quality fighter but it's just unfortunate he doesn't have a good ranking, but his ranking will grow as long as he remains active and of course will continue winning.

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January 17, 2024, 12:36:02 PM
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I don't know who Sam Goodman is but he is currently the number 1 in the ranking, followed by Neri then Casimero. Murodjon Akhmadaliev is just number 6 in the ranking, so I don't understand why Inoue had missed to mention Sam Goodman. Honestly, I don't know this guy, but I'm surprise he is in the number 1 ranking. So if Inoue will fight the challenger in WBO, he could fight Sam Goodman and then Casimero vs Nery, winners of both fight will afce each other, how's that sound?
Sounds more possible than a direct fight of Casimero against Inoue.
But let's not forget, Murodjon Akhmadaliev just won against Kevin Gonzalez for the WBA super bantamweight title eliminator so he has more chance to fight Inoue first than others.
Now Inoue said he will stick in the super bantamweight division for now but I doubt it will be that long. Maybe he will just defend it twice or three times and if Sam Goodman will be next, even if Casimero signs with MP, he will have a hard time having that chance against Inoue. Unless, like what others mentioned, if the prize pool will be too sweet that Inoue's camp cannot decline. Money can control everything, and even these organizations will undoubtedly accept it especially if they can make a lot of money from PPV and ticket sales and other ways to profit from it.
Casimero is only glorious in his country but he might be unknown to others, they would need to boost him first either through winning fights or making a trend for him on social media. I mean, that had been the way of boxers now to boost their popularity.

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January 17, 2024, 03:56:39 PM
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This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

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Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue

Last or first, signing with Pacquiao's team will definitely shoot up his chances of getting fights and being recognized by the people around him, and with the connections that the former pound-for-pound king has over different institutions in the boxing world there's a high chance that he'll make the fight happen sometime in the near future. It's just a matter of how Casimero should showcase himself at this point.

People will always gun for the kingleader's head, but it's those that come close to getting the kill that would really cement their names in the history of the game. Inoue's in his prime now and there's good chances that Casimero's not gonna win this, but if he shows himself in a way where he won't look like a total laughingstock and actually give the people and his opponent a good fight, we might even see more Casimero fights in the future. Pacquiao became one of the most respected athletes in the history of boxing not because he was undefeated, but because he has the skills to perform and the fighting spirit to keep going even when the odds are stacked against him. I don't really see Pacquiao in Casimero but who knows? We'll just have to wait and see for now I guess until the fight does happen. Till then we can only speculate.

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January 19, 2024, 06:13:38 AM
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Looks like its getting more impossible for this fight to takes place any time soon but we wanted to see this match takes place anytime it is available .

I for now will accumulate money to use as betting here if goes possible in the future.

Maybe it will not happen anytime soon but I don't think it's impossible to happen. As long as Casimero will not retire and he will continue to follow Inoue then I believe the time will come that they will eventually meet. Casimero is a quality fighter but it's just unfortunate he doesn't have a good ranking, but his ranking will grow as long as he remains active and of course will continue winning.

As for the amount you will bet, just don't save for it or accumulate, just bet small and have fun.  Smiley

There's hope for the Inoue - Casimero fight, Inoue floated the idea, he will soon leave the super Bantamweight division, and the best way to leave a mark on that division and welcome his coming in the Featherweight division is to beat the fighter who's very eager to fight him.

Their supposed schedule was canceled due to the pandemic and it created hype during that time, It is about time that the Inoue camp gives Casimero a chance to prove himself worthy of the challenges because so many videos of Casimero he keeps criticizing Inoue for avoiding him.

If he doesn't give Casimero a chance, Quatro Alas will keep criticizing him even if Inoue goes up in the featherweight division, It is on Inoue call to stop this criticism


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Inoue himself floated the idea of a voluntary title defense versus former three-division titlist John Riel Casimero as a third fight for 2024. Mr. Ohashi was not quite as giddy over the matchup, though Inoue views the matchup as unfinished business; they were due to meet in an April 2020 bantamweight unification clash in Las Vegas which was canceled due to the initial wave of the global pandemic.
Team Inoue Eyes Tokyo Dome, Saudi Arabia As Hosting Locations For Planned Three-Fight 2024 Campaign

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January 19, 2024, 06:37:25 AM
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Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
News between Casimero vs. Inoue, has become a hot topic of conversation among loyal supporters of both parties, supporters each claim that each of their boxing idols is the best, Here, in other news, there are many comments that we can see on Casimero's Facebook page, he posted a challenging video, it looks serious and a little too arrogant of Casimero towards Inoue.

I hope boxing between Casimero vs. Inoue could become a reality in the coming year, there is an interesting point that I see in this.
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"All my loyal supporters here say that no one can beat you (Inoue) except me," said Casimero.

This is a statement from Casemiro's supporters, but there has been no interesting reply to Inoue's loyal supporters, it will be interesting to see the replies from Inoue's supporters.
That's how arrogant he is, but isn't it normal in boxing? I mean, they would do some trash talk so they will be noticed, and I find it very effective for him since we are talking about him. On the 3 boxers, (including Casimero) that was mentioned, I'm sure fans would love to see Casimero to go first although he isn't the priority according to Inoue's camp or Top Rank prom.

That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
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January 19, 2024, 07:07:30 AM
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That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
Even before when he was still a champion he already starting trash-talking Inoue, so there's nothing new here. The only problem of Casimero is his ranking and that reflects the quality of wins he hand in his previous fight, maybe more fights for him to polish his standing and who knows, he might become a mandatory challenger while Inoue has not decided to leave the division yet.

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January 19, 2024, 08:17:01 AM
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That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
Even before when he was still a champion he already starting trash-talking Inoue, so there's nothing new here. The only problem of Casimero is his ranking and that reflects the quality of wins he hand in his previous fight, maybe more fights for him to polish his standing and who knows, he might become a mandatory challenger while Inoue has not decided to leave the division yet.

For doing that he already caught the attention of Inoue but the problem with Casimero is he doesn't have anything to bet so Inoue's camp will get an interest to make their fight to happen. But they can't get anything from him that's why its really bad that we can't see their fight to happen. Plus the bad performance shown by Casimero on his last fight contribute for Inoue's camp for not letting that fight to happen since many people see how bad really it is so its expect now that Casimero is now out of their track.


This is the 5 target fights that Inoue camps target to happen https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-next-fight-five-opponents-tank-lomachenko/4b45fb202606041d1e5b15ee and to bad no Casimero's name mentioned there.

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January 19, 2024, 12:59:46 PM
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That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
Even before when he was still a champion he already starting trash-talking Inoue, so there's nothing new here. The only problem of Casimero is his ranking and that reflects the quality of wins he hand in his previous fight, maybe more fights for him to polish his standing and who knows, he might become a mandatory challenger while Inoue has not decided to leave the division yet.

For doing that he already caught the attention of Inoue but the problem with Casimero is he doesn't have anything to bet so Inoue's camp will get an interest to make their fight to happen. But they can't get anything from him that's why its really bad that we can't see their fight to happen. Plus the bad performance shown by Casimero on his last fight contribute for Inoue's camp for not letting that fight to happen since many people see how bad really it is so its expect now that Casimero is now out of their track.


This is the 5 target fights that Inoue camps target to happen https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-next-fight-five-opponents-tank-lomachenko/4b45fb202606041d1e5b15ee and to bad no Casimero's name mentioned there.

Inoue doesn't have to play with the ranking if he wants to fight Casimero. Instead, he should look at the revenue side because this supposed fight has been hype for years which I think people would watch it even if the tickets are expensive.

If Inoue would say no, he can do that as there are fighters in line before Casimero, but if he wants to challenge himself, maybe he should get into the ring with Casimero so the rumors and speculation will be over as soon as he KO him.

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January 19, 2024, 10:11:05 PM
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Inoue doesn't have to play with the ranking if he wants to fight Casimero. Instead, he should look at the revenue side because this supposed fight has been hype for years which I think people would watch it even if the tickets are expensive.

Only Filipino fans are hyping the match. If there's a massive demand from the international boxing community fans, it's an obvious easy money but that's not the case. For Casimero to be recognized, no choice but to climb up rankings as being the top contender will be granted an eligibility to fight for the title.

Anyway, since it's now Luis Nery on the line for Inoue, Casimero's camp need to secure a fight right away even below ranked boxers than him. What's more important today for Casimero is to just secure a fight against anyone as much as possible and try to build up a winning streak until being recognized.
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Inoue doesn't have to play with the ranking if he wants to fight Casimero. Instead, he should look at the revenue side because this supposed fight has been hype for years which I think people would watch it even if the tickets are expensive.

Only Filipino fans are hyping the match. If there's a massive demand from the international boxing community fans, it's an obvious easy money but that's not the case. For Casimero to be recognized, no choice but to climb up rankings as being the top contender will be granted an eligibility to fight for the title.

Anyway, since it's now Luis Nery on the line for Inoue, Casimero's camp need to secure a fight right away even below ranked boxers than him. What's more important today for Casimero is to just secure a fight against anyone as much as possible and try to build up a winning streak until being recognized.

An Inoue-Casimero fight is attractive for promoters and the boxing community in general, both are current and former champions respectively and both have a long streak of winnings and both have beaten a lot of great boxers, this fight is easy to sell, and to hype not only for the Filipino boxing fans but for all the boxing fans Inoue's dominance is unquestionable but Casimero last loss was way back 2017 and he was never knocked out.

Inoue only fights in Japan but Casimero is a journeyman he goes to the territory of his enemy and beats his enemy scourge him and humiliates him in front of his countryman, something that Casimero wants to do to Inoue in front of his countryman.

Remember the Argentina riot
Lazarte vs. Casimero RIOT and Casimero continues to fight on enemy territories after this riot.

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Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue. But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.
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Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue.
In that case Casimero does not need to ask Inoue to give him a chance, instead, he will just focus on his fights and make an impressive win so he'll get his ranking improved. If Inoue will stay, he could be a mandatory challenger where Inoue won't need to decide anymore if he'll fight him or not since if he will not he'll get stripped with his belt, it would be okay if he'll move up since there's nothing to prove in the super bantanweight division anymore.

But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.
For now yeah.

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Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
News between Casimero vs. Inoue, has become a hot topic of conversation among loyal supporters of both parties, supporters each claim that each of their boxing idols is the best, Here, in other news, there are many comments that we can see on Casimero's Facebook page, he posted a challenging video, it looks serious and a little too arrogant of Casimero towards Inoue.

I hope boxing between Casimero vs. Inoue could become a reality in the coming year, there is an interesting point that I see in this.
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"All my loyal supporters here say that no one can beat you (Inoue) except me," said Casimero.

This is a statement from Casemiro's supporters, but there has been no interesting reply to Inoue's loyal supporters, it will be interesting to see the replies from Inoue's supporters.
That's how arrogant he is, but isn't it normal in boxing? I mean, they would do some trash talk so they will be noticed, and I find it very effective for him since we are talking about him. On the 3 boxers, (including Casimero) that was mentioned, I'm sure fans would love to see Casimero to go first although he isn't the priority according to Inoue's camp or Top Rank prom.

That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.

Casimero is really just pure talks but doesnt really have that kind of power on beating Inoue. I dont know on why there are people who are really that eager when it comes on having that kind of fight
against Inoue then i dont see the point but now that there are really those fight arrangements already then Casimero is really that on the line then it would really be the fight on where those
fans are really that waiting for. I would love to see on what are those peoples faces on the time that they see Casimero would be facing down on the canvass or simply having that TKO.

Now that there is 3 fights that would happen for this year then Inoue should really be prepared because those fighters wont really be that fragile. Nery? Dangerous.
Casimero? Nah.. This dude is really just that pure talks. This is why it would really be just that right people should really be that preparing on how their boxer
would really be facing out that disappointing loss.  Grin

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January 20, 2024, 07:23:19 AM
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Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue.
In that case Casimero does not need to ask Inoue to give him a chance, instead, he will just focus on his fights and make an impressive win so he'll get his ranking improved. If Inoue will stay, he could be a mandatory challenger where Inoue won't need to decide anymore if he'll fight him or not since if he will not he'll get stripped with his belt, it would be okay if he'll move up since there's nothing to prove in the super bantanweight division anymore.

But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.
For now yeah.

Honestly in the world of boxing I am impressed of casimero before but seeing his previous fight then I have a doubt if he can win Inoue in his style. But still if he have a good techniques and strategy then maybe he can win by unanimous decision but I have a doubt in knocking out. Cause we all know how casimero play but Inoue is smart enough he will adjust his strategy base in his opponent so for sure if casimero will more aggressive then Inoue will take it easy. Anyways for now casimero will win in his fights in order to prove that he is worthy enough to fight against the monster of Japan.
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Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue.
In that case Casimero does not need to ask Inoue to give him a chance, instead, he will just focus on his fights and make an impressive win so he'll get his ranking improved. If Inoue will stay, he could be a mandatory challenger where Inoue won't need to decide anymore if he'll fight him or not since if he will not he'll get stripped with his belt, it would be okay if he'll move up since there's nothing to prove in the super bantanweight division anymore.

But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.
For now yeah.

Honestly in the world of boxing I am impressed of casimero before but seeing his previous fight then I have a doubt if he can win Inoue in his style. But still if he have a good techniques and strategy then maybe he can win by unanimous decision but I have a doubt in knocking out. Cause we all know how casimero play but Inoue is smart enough he will adjust his strategy base in his opponent so for sure if casimero will more aggressive then Inoue will take it easy. Anyways for now casimero will win in his fights in order to prove that he is worthy enough to fight against the monster of Japan.

Maybe it's because that we have seen Casimero's prime when he won against Tete and then defended his belt against Duke Micah. It was a war, specially with Duke Micah, I mean Micah really try to stand toe to toe win Casimero that time and they are banging. But Micah can't take the power of Casimero. But after that, Casimero can't make the weight against Butler twice, unable to defend his belt and then lost it without fighting Butler. Now he goes up to 122 lbs, didnt' impressed in his first two fights. So I don't see him getting a fight with Inoue next year, Naoya has two fights, Nery and then Akhmadaliev.

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We have been waiting for this Match to takes place but until now its not happening there is a lot of
hindrances for this Casimero Dream fight as he wanted to take a revenge for his fellow Filipino Boxer Nonito Donaire
that Inoue beat twice .

But I know it may not in this division but in time they will face each others as Casimero is also a promising
boxer that has a lot of potential to become a first boxer to defeat this Japanese Monster .

If he have fought Donaire in His prime , maybe he have faced a hard fight .

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Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.

Casimero should not aim for another Inoue fight any time soon but rather just get a lot more experience in his current weight division. Get matched with different prime fighters, be comfortable with the weight division, then challenge Inoue. The Japanese seemed to be staying in this weight class, too, although there aren't many fighters left for him to conquer. Hopefully Casimero and his team gets level-headed and not change for revenge immediately but rather, strengthen their fighter further. An Inoue fight is a big paycheck, but certainly not a good record if you are on the losing side.
Exactly because it is on Inoue's advantage if Casimero keeps on pushing this fight as the Japanese might not go up out of his comfort zone which is his current weight division. But still it is up to the Japanese side whether they have the guts of going up on higher weight division just like what Pacquiao did to most of his opponents.



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Honestly in the world of boxing I am impressed of casimero before but seeing his previous fight then I have a doubt if he can win Inoue in his style. But still if he have a good techniques and strategy then maybe he can win by unanimous decision but I have a doubt in knocking out. Cause we all know how casimero play but Inoue is smart enough he will adjust his strategy base in his opponent so for sure if casimero will more aggressive then Inoue will take it easy. Anyways for now casimero will win in his fights in order to prove that he is worthy enough to fight against the monster of Japan.
We can learn to judge from Inoue previous fights and was able to achieve victory in every fight.
Inoue always fights with defensive style at the start of the first round and is more careful because he can see the opponent weaknesses and mistakes by opening up opportunities for Inoue to be able to throw punch.
When Inoue can read his movements and see how his opponent fights, he always carries out more dominating attacks and he creates opportunities to hit his opponent and knock him out until he wins by knockout.
Inoue can always do all of this in all his fights and he is truly not just strong boxer but also smart and has accumulated lot of experience in conquering every opponent easily.
If Casimero faced Inoue then we would be able to guess that Inoue would still be the favorite and would win the fight. Casimero did fight quite well but he couldn't beat Inoue yet.

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January 20, 2024, 02:49:08 PM
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Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.
Still not impressive for me, Inoue's biggest fight was with  Donaire and if you watch it closely either of them could have won that fight if their punches are going in. I've never seen bloody Inoue after his succeeding fights. I can't compare Inoue to some of the fearless fighter I've known, coz upon checking he didn't beat any known fighters!

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.
Casimero want him, and if you look at the titles, Inoue can steal Casimero's belt but why don't he fight Casimero?
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Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.
Still not impressive for me, Inoue's biggest fight was with  Donaire and if you watch it closely either of them could have won that fight if their punches are going in. I've never seen bloody Inoue after his succeeding fights. I can't compare Inoue to some of the fearless fighter I've known, coz upon checking he didn't beat any known fighters!

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.
Casimero want him, and if you look at the titles, Inoue can steal Casimero's belt but why don't he fight Casimero?

You are referring to the Donaire first fight? Yeah, Nonito almost beat Inoue that time and put a serious damage on his, broke his orbital bone, but in the end, the judges awarded the fight to Inoue 117–109, 116–111, and 114–113 and won the WBSS trophy. But after that fight, Inoue really improved and in the rematch, Donaire was no match for him, maybe Inoue really aged already.

Then he beat Butler, take the last of the bantamweight belt, WBO, and unified it. Then bet the best super bantamweight in Fulton and Tapales. I think that is impressive enough for Inoue to be given the Boxer of the year by Ring magazine.

On the other hand, Casimero also moved up to super bantamweight because he can't no longer make the weight at bantamweight. Debut at 122 lbs, fight Oguni, that ended in a disappointing technical draw (later reversed). He then fought Filipus Nghitumbwa in Manila for the so called World Boxing Organization (WBO) global super bantamweight and won by UD and it was not impressive.

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