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July 26, 2024, 09:57:49 PM
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I am sure that those who really put high trust in someone who is called a prediction expert are some of those who are really unfamiliar with what and how the concept of gambling actually works. This belief is like a kind of tradition that is naturally formed in the minds of ordinary people, but actually when we go back to understanding what and how the concept of winning and losing in gambling rationally works, then you will not really put too much trust in those who are called experts.

Because there will definitely be a lot of doubt in your mind when talking about experts in an activity that cannot be fully predicted accurately, and I am sure as you said above that whoever they are, even though they are called experts, it still does not guarantee that they will always be able to predict the game 100% accurately, meaning that there will always be certain times for them to experience defeat. In the end, this is actually a choice, it doesn't matter if you want to make their predictions a choice as long as you gamble without exceeding your limits in the sense of only betting the amount that you can afford, it's like the idea of ​​relying on luck and other people's skills to produce something.
Expert gamblers? Those guys are full of shit. They market control in a chance game. Like those weathermen who promise sunshine but leave you drenched. Betting is chaotic, therefore taming it will disappoint. While it's tempting to believe someone has the perfect recipe to beat the house, that's just wishful thinking. The true risk is how you spend your time and money

Trying to find "experts" is pointless. Spend your money on yourself instead of their hollow promises. Discover new skills, knowledge, and personal growth. The only guaranteed thing in the world
Whether on those trading professionals or those expert gamblers, there's no way that i do make myself that believe that they are really that ahead of these things on which they wont really be bothering themselves on making someone follow them and as for some fees if they were really that profitable in the first place. Making use of your own common sense would really be able to tell you that if they are making money then
why would be they bothering themselves on dealing up with these things? Also, it would really be just that better that you do deal up with gambling or betting with your own analysis or choices on which on the time or moment that you would really be on loses then you wont really be having such kind of regret on which this is the common emotions that you will really be able to felt on the verge of losing condition.
If you are betting with your own choice and preference then of course it wont really be hurting that much or having no sense of regret unlike when you are betting just because of someones tips and advises?
It would really be a different story.

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July 27, 2024, 01:42:00 AM
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if we correctly choose experienced experts and their prediction history is almost perfect reaching 90% accuracy but they offer high prices to members, some of their predictions may produce high chances of winning but we must prioritize our skills by combining expert predictions for the final decision to determine the bet . However, there are no accurate predictions, so prioritize your analysis to predict bets and add expert predictions for analysis or supporting factors to find chances of winning. Even though you are very sure of your chances of winning with predictions, you still have to set limits to avoid the risk of loss, because gambling results will not be certain with predictions and speculation, so anticipatory steps need to be prepared to overcome losses.
Paying high subscription will not be a good choice for gamblers who doesn't have much money although they thinks that can gives them a high rate of the success. That prediction will not guarantee you to wins the match but the lose will always be there and prepare to take your money. People should know that the prediction can be wrong so when they pay the subscription, they must realizes that they can lose their money in the match. No accurate prediction as the match can change anytime so rather than to pay the subscription, it is better people try to analyze by themselves so they can improve their analysis skills to be better.

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July 27, 2024, 06:45:53 AM
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You are absolutely right, my friend. I do not think that people will stop relying on predictions because there are people who believe so much in them that they cannot make predictions on their own, and therefore they are always looking for places where they can buy them. Some people think that gambling can make them rich, and because of this conviction, they can start to rely on predictions. 

Those gambling experts that make and sell predictions are supposed to be very rich if they can actually make huge profits from their own predictions too, but they have not. I expect those who buy predictions to think about it. 
People who are already confident in their predictions even if they end up not making a profit are likely to go back to looking for ways, analyzing to get new predictions that they think are accurate, these actions tend to be impulsive actions. And none other than they do that I think because they are too obsessed with the uncertain victory in gambling. Actually, we must try to consider everything, but it must also be seen what kind of game it is, because not all gambling games can be predicted or require us to have a strategy as well as predictions, sometimes luck plays a big role.

Those who follow the predictive advice of so-called experts or gambling experts are trapped, because I think that with so many people who believe it certainly makes the person who is believed to be a gambling expert get other benefits. This is smart, but those who follow it tend to be stupid. Even if there are people who are willing to pay to get a strategy I think it is a fatal mistake.

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July 27, 2024, 08:51:11 AM
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I have a feeling that predictions will exist forever, but not because they are special, but because there will always be those who will be interested in them. The funniest thing for me is that there are players who are ready to pay for this. It has long been clear that you can’t trust absolutely anyone when it comes to money, especially in betting. I can puzzle many with the simplest question: Why are betting predictors not rich? The correct answer: because they themselves never know, but only pass themselves off as experts so that their name does not leave the sports news feed.

You are absolutely right, my friend. I do not think that people will stop relying on predictions because there are people who believe so much in them that they cannot make predictions on their own, and therefore they are always looking for places where they can buy them. Some people think that gambling can make them rich, and because of this conviction, they can start to rely on predictions. 

Those gambling experts that make and sell predictions are supposed to be very rich if they can actually make huge profits from their own predictions too, but they have not. I expect those who buy predictions to think about it. 
Yeap, I sometimes think that people have a need to believe in something, even if it can be absolute nonsense. Everyone finds their own interest or self-soothing in this. Also, if we specifically touch on betting predictors, then there is an additional shifting of responsibility to others. This is done so that even if the player loses, he can tell himself that it was not he, but they who lost, although it was the player who lost the money. So from the outside it looks a little funny and of course irresponsible. Although when we place bets, we must take full responsibility for each bet and understand that only we will be to blame for the loss and no one else, even if we completely trusted his forecast.

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July 27, 2024, 09:13:31 AM
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You are absolutely right, my friend. I do not think that people will stop relying on predictions because there are people who believe so much in them that they cannot make predictions on their own, and therefore they are always looking for places where they can buy them. Some people think that gambling can make them rich, and because of this conviction, they can start to rely on predictions. 

Those gambling experts that make and sell predictions are supposed to be very rich if they can actually make huge profits from their own predictions too, but they have not. I expect those who buy predictions to think about it. 
People who are already confident in their predictions even if they end up not making a profit are likely to go back to looking for ways, analyzing to get new predictions that they think are accurate, these actions tend to be impulsive actions. And none other than they do that I think because they are too obsessed with the uncertain victory in gambling. Actually, we must try to consider everything, but it must also be seen what kind of game it is, because not all gambling games can be predicted or require us to have a strategy as well as predictions, sometimes luck plays a big role.

Those who follow the predictive advice of so-called experts or gambling experts are trapped, because I think that with so many people who believe it certainly makes the person who is believed to be a gambling expert get other benefits. This is smart, but those who follow it tend to be stupid. Even if there are people who are willing to pay to get a strategy I think it is a fatal mistake.

I think following the experts' predictions needs to be looked at in a different way. For some bettors it is important that their bets bring profit, and for others it is important that their own forecasts come true, because it brings pleasure not only from winning, but also from understanding that their analytics is correct. In my opinion, it is quite clear that the emotions of bettors who base their forecasts only on their own analytics will be more pronounced. Everyone decides for himself whether or not to rely on expert forecasts, but each of us should compare emotions relying on his own analysis and on the expert's analysis.

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July 27, 2024, 09:59:04 AM
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Yes I also do not deny that there may be some experts who share advice or knowledge in gambling or even signals to make entries in gambling, but it is very rare, even almost nonexistent because I have never found it during my gambling so far.
And on average what we encounter is the cunning scheme of certain parties to deceive many people with the lure of victory, and that is what attracts many people, even though they fall into the trap.

Yes, I agree with you more, that the real experts provide advice and procedures for responsible gambling, both money management and other things like that to make gambling safe and will not make other gamblers fall into the trap of bad gambling or excessive addiction.

I have been led to believe that gambling writers are experts. Gambling writers publish multiple free gambling resources daily, in books, and on the internet. Some of it is premium information. But I don't consider paying an author for his work the same as paying a self-proclaimed gambling expert. And because of the high quality of ideas in the book, I shouldn't stop thinking they're free. You'll never find a win-big method in such content or books.

Its contents are primarily on how to play for fun and ways to improve as a responsible player. But, these con experts do things the other way around. They teach false gambling methods and lead naive players to gambling addiction. Gamblers quickly get deceived the moment money is guaranteed. This curiosity to win is the reason why lots of gamblers dump genuine information from experts for the crap ideology of these con men.

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July 27, 2024, 12:14:51 PM
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Its contents are primarily on how to play for fun and ways to improve as a responsible player. But, these con experts do things the other way around. They teach false gambling methods and lead naive players to gambling addiction. Gamblers quickly get deceived the moment money is guaranteed. This curiosity to win is the reason why lots of gamblers dump genuine information from experts for the crap ideology of these con men.

Those experts do it for the profit they will make without taking into consideration the losses that their victims will encounter. You are right, @Accardo. When some naive gamblers just hear that a certain winning is guaranteed, they will quickly stake on the game without even minding if it is false or not. The problem that some gamblers have is that they are not familiar with sports activities, and they don't know how to even make accurate predictions. Even if they don't win all the time, at least they have to learn how to not be dependent on anybody's prediction. 

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I am sure that those who really put high trust in someone who is called a prediction expert are some of those who are really unfamiliar with what and how the concept of gambling actually works. This belief is like a kind of tradition that is naturally formed in the minds of ordinary people, but actually when we go back to understanding what and how the concept of winning and losing in gambling rationally works, then you will not really put too much trust in those who are called experts.

Because there will definitely be a lot of doubt in your mind when talking about experts in an activity that cannot be fully predicted accurately, and I am sure as you said above that whoever they are, even though they are called experts, it still does not guarantee that they will always be able to predict the game 100% accurately, meaning that there will always be certain times for them to experience defeat. In the end, this is actually a choice, it doesn't matter if you want to make their predictions a choice as long as you gamble without exceeding your limits in the sense of only betting the amount that you can afford, it's like the idea of ​​relying on luck and other people's skills to produce something.
Expert gamblers? Those guys are full of shit. They market control in a chance game. Like those weathermen who promise sunshine but leave you drenched. Betting is chaotic, therefore taming it will disappoint. While it's tempting to believe someone has the perfect recipe to beat the house, that's just wishful thinking. The true risk is how you spend your time and money

Trying to find "experts" is pointless. Spend your money on yourself instead of their hollow promises. Discover new skills, knowledge, and personal growth. The only guaranteed thing in the world

Right, it seems that we are of the same mind in responding to this, my friend, because basically how can you trust someone who is said to be able to produce victory in a place that can never be predicted, and I am sure with you that everything they say is nothing more than nonsense that is nothing more than to make people, especially beginners, interested in offers and the lure of big wins. On the other hand, I am sure that if there are some people who try to put their trust in them, then it can be ascertained that they are some people who make victory a priority in gambling.

Even though it is clearly the wrong goal, but yes, everyone has their own choices, and if they don't want to listen to us, then maybe in the end time will tell them that they were wrong in putting their trust. After all, there are no experts in gambling, I am sure of that, because logically it is not a betting activity if the results of the game can be predicted accurately.

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July 27, 2024, 02:19:31 PM
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Its contents are primarily on how to play for fun and ways to improve as a responsible player. But, these con experts do things the other way around. They teach false gambling methods and lead naive players to gambling addiction. Gamblers quickly get deceived the moment money is guaranteed. This curiosity to win is the reason why lots of gamblers dump genuine information from experts for the crap ideology of these con men.

Those experts do it for the profit they will make without taking into consideration the losses that their victims will encounter. You are right, @Accardo. When some naive gamblers just hear that a certain winning is guaranteed, they will quickly stake on the game without even minding if it is false or not. The problem that some gamblers have is that they are not familiar with sports activities, and they don't know how to even make accurate predictions. Even if they don't win all the time, at least they have to learn how to not be dependent on anybody's prediction. 
yes I agree, because if we think rationally not to trust 100% of people who claim to be prediction experts, and wonder why not just bet their money on their own predictions instead of using other people's money, if their predictions are accurate, then it will benefit themselves by not sharing the profits. yes because the answer is certain, those who are called experts in predictions do not 100% trust their own predictions, and finally offer their predictions to others, because if their predictions are used to bet using other people's money they will not suffer losses if their predictions fail, and will benefit if their predictions are correct.
this is a kind of job that they do without having to take risks. and get profit

And unfortunately many naive gamblers like you said are trapped just because they are interested in winning without realizing it, they have believed other people's words and assume that the prediction will bring victory. it's a kind of hanging trust in the hands of others, there's nothing wrong with believing in other people's predictions, it's each person's choice, the important thing is to bet according to your ability without having to cross the line. and as someone who is not familiar with sports betting, at least don't bet on something you can't do.

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Yes I also do not deny that there may be some experts who share advice or knowledge in gambling or even signals to make entries in gambling, but it is very rare, even almost nonexistent because I have never found it during my gambling so far.
And on average what we encounter is the cunning scheme of certain parties to deceive many people with the lure of victory, and that is what attracts many people, even though they fall into the trap.

Yes, I agree with you more, that the real experts provide advice and procedures for responsible gambling, both money management and other things like that to make gambling safe and will not make other gamblers fall into the trap of bad gambling or excessive addiction.

I have been led to believe that gambling writers are experts. Gambling writers publish multiple free gambling resources daily, in books, and on the internet. Some of it is premium information. But I don't consider paying an author for his work the same as paying a self-proclaimed gambling expert. And because of the high quality of ideas in the book, I shouldn't stop thinking they're free. You'll never find a win-big method in such content or books.

Its contents are primarily on how to play for fun and ways to improve as a responsible player. But, these con experts do things the other way around. They teach false gambling methods and lead naive players to gambling addiction. Gamblers quickly get deceived the moment money is guaranteed. This curiosity to win is the reason why lots of gamblers dump genuine information from experts for the crap ideology of these con men.

Yes that's the scary thing that might happen if we buy or subscribe to that kind of thing for our gambling activities, the risk becomes more if we rely on that kind of thing.

And again if the orientation is winning completely means that indirectly someone who uses this kind of thing to gamble has an orientation to money, big wins, and what makes him happy is if he really gets a big win, and that is not a good thing for someone who does gambling responsibly, such a gambling mindset will be far from the fun we can get from gambling.

Do not let us be fooled by the offers of such disgusting miners, claiming to be experts but not in high life then it is a scam.

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July 27, 2024, 05:41:26 PM
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if we correctly choose experienced experts and their prediction history is almost perfect reaching 90% accuracy but they offer high prices to members, some of their predictions may produce high chances of winning but we must prioritize our skills by combining expert predictions for the final decision to determine the bet . However, there are no accurate predictions, so prioritize your analysis to predict bets and add expert predictions for analysis or supporting factors to find chances of winning. Even though you are very sure of your chances of winning with predictions, you still have to set limits to avoid the risk of loss, because gambling results will not be certain with predictions and speculation, so anticipatory steps need to be prepared to overcome losses.
Paying high subscription will not be a good choice for gamblers who doesn't have much money although they thinks that can gives them a high rate of the success. That prediction will not guarantee you to wins the match but the lose will always be there and prepare to take your money. People should know that the prediction can be wrong so when they pay the subscription, they must realizes that they can lose their money in the match. No accurate prediction as the match can change anytime so rather than to pay the subscription, it is better people try to analyze by themselves so they can improve their analysis skills to be better.

There's no guarantee though it's going to be depend from how you trust your judegment, even there's no assurance there are still gamblers who take that big risk in paying high value prediction services, they are willing to submit their money and follow those picks that being predicted even there's alwaysa chance of losing they are okay taking it.

Same with your last statement, it's better to invest your time doing your own research and use that money  to bet on your own analysis, just keep adjusting time will come that you will predict better and anticipate the potential outcome.

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July 28, 2024, 02:01:27 AM
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People who are already confident in their predictions even if they end up not making a profit are likely to go back to looking for ways, analyzing to get new predictions that they think are accurate, these actions tend to be impulsive actions. And none other than they do that I think because they are too obsessed with the uncertain victory in gambling. Actually, we must try to consider everything, but it must also be seen what kind of game it is, because not all gambling games can be predicted or require us to have a strategy as well as predictions, sometimes luck plays a big role.

Those who follow the predictive advice of so-called experts or gambling experts are trapped, because I think that with so many people who believe it certainly makes the person who is believed to be a gambling expert get other benefits. This is smart, but those who follow it tend to be stupid. Even if there are people who are willing to pay to get a strategy I think it is a fatal mistake.

I think following the experts' predictions needs to be looked at in a different way. For some bettors it is important that their bets bring profit, and for others it is important that their own forecasts come true, because it brings pleasure not only from winning, but also from understanding that their analytics is correct. In my opinion, it is quite clear that the emotions of bettors who base their forecasts only on their own analytics will be more pronounced. Everyone decides for himself whether or not to rely on expert forecasts, but each of us should compare emotions relying on his own analysis and on the expert's analysis.
pleasure that is not from winning will be obtained by those who have the perception of gambling as just entertainment. However, when they bet according to the instructions of the experts, I think their perception of gambling is seeking profit and tends to be obsessed with winning so that no matter what they will find a way to get victory, including by following the instructions of someone who is said to be an expert in predicting. In addition, for those who have the perception of gambling to make money, they will not be able to get pleasure other than winning.

I think there must be consideration in utilizing or following the predictions of experts, because of course we ourselves have predictions and sometimes we are a little less sure about other people's predictions. I myself am more inclined to my own predictions because my perception of gambling is not primarily to generate profit, so I do it naturally, namely entertainment. However, by sharing analysis with each other, maybe that doesn't matter because there will be positive results that may be obtained.

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July 28, 2024, 04:01:49 AM
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There's no guarantee though it's going to be depend from how you trust your judegment, even there's no assurance there are still gamblers who take that big risk in paying high value prediction services, they are willing to submit their money and follow those picks that being predicted even there's alwaysa chance of losing they are okay taking it.

Same with your last statement, it's better to invest your time doing your own research and use that money  to bet on your own analysis, just keep adjusting time will come that you will predict better and anticipate the potential outcome.
Those who wants to pay high fees for prediction services must know that will not guarantee them to win in the betting. They don't have to spend much money for that prediction services if they realizes that they can have skills to analyze by themselves. That will helps them to have a better skills in analyzing the match so they don't have to rely on other things to place their bet. They can just depends on themselves when placing the bet because they have their skills in analyzing and determine the right team. Although they can not win, at least they will have a chance to improve their skills in betting so that will useful for them to have a better skills in the future if they keeps learning the analysis.

If we invest our time to learning and research so we can have better skills, that will helps us to believe ourselves in analyzing the match. We will not trying to just believe on other people prediction because we will research for more to find more information about the match.

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For the first time, maybe trying to follow the predictions of the experts will not be too much of a problem where indirectly maybe it can also be done as an experiment, at least 2x with small bets especially if you are really curious about whether the predictions are really accurate and in accordance with what the experts say or not.

But for me at a glance I think it doesn't make sense to say that there is one or some people who are said or claim to be experts in gambling, because the name of the expert must have been tested for his abilities, but we have to look again at the real facts about what and how gambling actually is where basically or the law of gambling is when the game cannot be predicted about the results that will occur at the end of the session, and as we experience that we always find it difficult to know about the results that will come out, so that's why I say that it doesn't make sense if there is someone or a party who calls himself an expert in gambling.

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July 28, 2024, 11:06:58 AM
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there are people who thinks that those forecasters are better than them but in reality they can also do the same if they just focus and learn the fundamentals, as there are factors that really affects the outcome of the game, though still luck is another thing to consider

That is exactly how most people see themselves against some forecasters, they believe that for someone to be forecasting a game means that they are far more experience than every other persons without knowing that anybody can become experience like that because all the person needs is just consistency and determination in learning some concept and strategy and the next thing he or she can start forecasting, however there is one mentality some people normally have towards forecasters because they always believes that with the level of knowledge forecasters has they will never lose any game forgetting that in gambling nobody is 100% accurate there would always be losses, so perhaps the only person that should be considered as an experience gamblers are those who win more than there losses.











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July 28, 2024, 11:56:48 AM
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Actually, we must try to consider everything, but it must also be seen what kind of game it is, because not all gambling games can be predicted or require us to have a strategy as well as predictions, sometimes luck plays a big role.

In this discussion about expert predictions, I think what we are mostly referring to here are the predictions of sports games like soccer, basket ball, table tennis, races, etc. These are mostly the games that those prediction experts pose as professionals that can give only profitable scores at all times. Some other casino and slot games only have strategies that you can use to win most times, but they don't work all the time, so there's no way anyone can be an expert at predicting casino games, which is totally dependent on luck. 

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July 28, 2024, 12:14:10 PM
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In this discussion about expert predictions, I think what we are mostly referring to here are the predictions of sports games like soccer, basket ball, table tennis, races, etc. These are mostly the games that those prediction experts pose as professionals that can give only profitable scores at all times. Some other casino and slot games only have strategies that you can use to win most times, but they don't work all the time, so there's no way anyone can be an expert at predicting casino games, which is totally dependent on luck. 
I think there was a particular thread where this issue was discussed before, about predicting casino games. And just like everyone said there including myself, it's not possible to predict casino games. Theses things works using algorithms and they try to favor both sides but most especially the house. We make wins on casino games by luck and good plans. Any one who claims to be a prediction expert in casino game might just be there to loot others of their funds. We can consider experts in sports because it's something you can do. By carefully studying each games and players closely. But not the same as casino games.

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July 28, 2024, 12:29:16 PM
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For the first time, maybe trying to follow the predictions of the experts will not be too much of a problem where indirectly maybe it can also be done as an experiment, at least 2x with small bets especially if you are really curious about whether the predictions are really accurate and in accordance with what the experts say or not.

But for me at a glance I think it doesn't make sense to say that there is one or some people who are said or claim to be experts in gambling, because the name of the expert must have been tested for his abilities, but we have to look again at the real facts about what and how gambling actually is where basically or the law of gambling is when the game cannot be predicted about the results that will occur at the end of the session, and as we experience that we always find it difficult to know about the results that will come out, so that's why I say that it doesn't make sense if there is someone or a party who calls himself an expert in gambling.
I'm not sure there would be a proof or someone checking the name and qualifications of a gambling expert before they make predictions, most people who make predictions on television are just reporters working in that field, or even higher are just one-time names of that sport in the past but regardless of their origin, their rank does not qualify them as an expert. The nature of a combat sport can be one-sided dominance but there are still elements of surprise and fairness that are corrected by the gambling site by the odds, an experienced or self-confessed expert is also unlikely to see all such unknowns

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July 28, 2024, 01:24:07 PM
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I am sure that those who really put high trust in someone who is called a prediction expert are some of those who are really unfamiliar with what and how the concept of gambling actually works. This belief is like a kind of tradition that is naturally formed in the minds of ordinary people, but actually when we go back to understanding what and how the concept of winning and losing in gambling rationally works, then you will not really put too much trust in those who are called experts.

It is a fact, but this is why we should not trust those experts, of course I do not rule out that there are people who are experts and want to help others with what they know, but they can easily witness that things do not work like that, sometimes in sports games the luck factor is included , and something that may not be so decisive but it happens, in casinos, roulette, crash or those games it is impossible for them to give signals, if they do it is for sports events, and as I have said, it is better to do things under our own opinion and our own wisdom, that is my best Advice.

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July 28, 2024, 01:51:19 PM
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There's no guarantee though it's going to be depend from how you trust your judegment, even there's no assurance there are still gamblers who take that big risk in paying high value prediction services, they are willing to submit their money and follow those picks that being predicted even there's alwaysa chance of losing they are okay taking it.

Same with your last statement, it's better to invest your time doing your own research and use that money  to bet on your own analysis, just keep adjusting time will come that you will predict better and anticipate the potential outcome.
Those who wants to pay high fees for prediction services must know that will not guarantee them to win in the betting. They don't have to spend much money for that prediction services if they realizes that they can have skills to analyze by themselves. That will helps them to have a better skills in analyzing the match so they don't have to rely on other things to place their bet. They can just depends on themselves when placing the bet because they have their skills in analyzing and determine the right team. Although they can not win, at least they will have a chance to improve their skills in betting so that will useful for them to have a better skills in the future if they keeps learning the analysis.

If we invest our time to learning and research so we can have better skills, that will helps us to believe ourselves in analyzing the match. We will not trying to just believe on other people prediction because we will research for more to find more information about the match.
The idea is that paying higher is a guarantee that they will win the bet given to them. Am a victim of this, and I started with the beginner plan for some weeks. In the end, I calculated how many times I had won in 14 days, and I found out that I made only a few profits. I won 8 days and lost 6 days. Feeling it was not worth it, I had to increase my subscription to VVIP. Not knowing that it was the worst of it all. Instead of sports being, the codes were basketball and some other sports games. I had no idea about those games, so I played them and kept losing for 5 days. That was when i decided to quit paying money to those sites and focus on my own predictions.

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