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January 17, 2024, 11:32:59 PM
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I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

Forget about gambling but when it has to do with speculations, I don’t believe in them until when proven certain. This is money we are talking about and you’re believing some speculator that can just speculate anything out in order to get recognised for their work. If it goes well for them, they’ll get more people to join them and when it goes against them, they try to buy you through another means to believe them the next time again. No one is guaranteed to be perfect in what they do, there’s always some discrepancies in everything you do and that’s natural for a human being.

Even so called Professional or experts in betting or gambling cannot get 100% of accuracy, if they do they would be likely cheating the system somehow, which is obviously illegal and against the Terms of Service of any casino out there. The whole point of being an expert at predictions is by being able to correctly call the results of matches more occasions than those incorrectly called, if done in the long term when it becomes profitable for the person and people who also bet using their tips. Whatever it bigger than 50% of accuracy, it is translated to profits in the long term.

Though, as I have already said in the past. One should have no reason to believe someone with the skills to get profits out of betting with those rates is willingly giving their tips, neither for free for changing for them, because if it was about money, they could just bet with their own money and get what they need. I only would pay attention to free tips, and from someone who despiste of having a good track record, does not give Tips all the time. It should reasonable to take tips in that context.

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January 17, 2024, 11:58:21 PM
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A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?


Just like trading, some people do it more than others. So in gambling, some people are more experienced or lucky than others, so, they could have some winning probabilities than others. But what OP have said above is so different. You don't take randomly predicted matches from anyone with the promise that it will return good.

If you want experts to give you predictions, there should be some kinds of aggrements on that. Maybe if he sends 12 matches in a week, if you are not able to win 6, he will refund your capital and if you win 6 and above, you will give him some percentage of your wins. Do not just waste money anyone please.

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January 18, 2024, 02:16:41 AM
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I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

the simple answer would be I'm not really believe to people's predictions unless they have a good win rate that he can provide the "Concrete proof" so I can trust.

Most of the gambling influencer that I known in Live is simply just play gamble and not making prediction they just share the win big amount of money. and put in other perspective I don't believe people who make a lot money in futures trading or forex trading until I see the solid evidence their Profit and loss ratio.

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January 18, 2024, 10:02:20 AM
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People have technologies, yet still cant make a 100% precision weather forecast of the next day, and OP is asking if we believe in gambling prediction. A place where luck, random, math and probability meet together. Strange that when expert makes a prediction, it mostly work, but when we use his advice, losing ratio is somehow larger than expected. If there were someone who only gives correct predictions, people would become unbelievably rich, and casinos would bankrupt. So far I dont see a millionaire in every single person I meet, and the amount of casinos only grow. That is why I dont believe in someone else expert opinion.

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January 18, 2024, 11:16:26 AM
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People have technologies, yet still cant make a 100% precision weather forecast of the next day, and OP is asking if we believe in gambling prediction. A place where luck, random, math and probability meet together. Strange that when expert makes a prediction, it mostly work, but when we use his advice, losing ratio is somehow larger than expected. If there were someone who only gives correct predictions, people would become unbelievably rich, and casinos would bankrupt. So far I dont see a millionaire in every single person I meet, and the amount of casinos only grow. That is why I dont believe in someone else expert opinion.
This is very true because they can only make predictions without knowing whether they are accurate. They can tell other people that their predictions are accurate but other people will see whether they are right or wrong. And people who use predictions from experts can only hope that their bets can win so they can get their money. But it would be even better if these people were willing to learn analysis themselves so that they don't expect too much from experts, especially when these experts are busy with their business. Experts also have their own lives so people who want to ask for their predictions must be patient. But if they can analyze themselves, they can find a team that has a chance of winning without having to depend on other people.

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January 18, 2024, 11:39:32 AM
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If a person predicts the results correctly, what's the point of putting the predictions out in the open? You can take out a loan from the bank and pay it back quickly - and then only make a profit. After all, the predictions are accurate .... Or are they? If not - what kind of a bad person do you have to be to sell inaccurate predictions?
If predictions in gambling were 100% accurate then people would always take loans from banks to gamble and become rich overnight. 100% results can never be expected from gambling predictions and experience. Success in gambling is entirely a matter of luck. A person who is lucky in gambling becomes rich overnight and a person who is not lucky in gambling always loses the bets and eventually loses everything and becomes bankrupt mentally.

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January 18, 2024, 12:01:41 PM
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People have technologies, yet still cant make a 100% precision weather forecast of the next day, and OP is asking if we believe in gambling prediction. A place where luck, random, math and probability meet together. Strange that when expert makes a prediction, it mostly work, but when we use his advice, losing ratio is somehow larger than expected. If there were someone who only gives correct predictions, people would become unbelievably rich, and casinos would bankrupt. So far I dont see a millionaire in every single person I meet, and the amount of casinos only grow. That is why I dont believe in someone else expert opinion.
Hahaha that's very true friend, I also do not believe that other people's predictions in any case, especially in gambling, even though the gambler shows the victory he has gotten, because in my opinion it is luck, we do not know that he failed and only showed his profit in his gambling.

And yes I have never seen someone rich from gambling, therefore the possibility of prediction can be guessed, that in gambling everyone will get more defeats than wins, I don't see gamblers all over the world to see the success of a gambler getting wealth in gambling, enough in my country alone no one has a definite count that he will win.

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January 18, 2024, 12:13:37 PM
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What gambling experts do to make themselves win bet is just 10% out of 100%. Because no matter how smart you think you are in making predictions, I assure you it's just because you have luck on your side.i have tried using several sport predictions sites in conjunction with my own perspective about the team, and brainstorm for about 2 hours and yet the bet was still lost at the end. So I guess luck is just the major explanation behind their wins. There are several telegram groups that claims to be gambling experts but yet many of their predictions still go wrong.
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January 18, 2024, 12:34:27 PM
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If a person predicts the results correctly, what's the point of putting the predictions out in the open? You can take out a loan from the bank and pay it back quickly - and then only make a profit. After all, the predictions are accurate .... Or are they? If not - what kind of a bad person do you have to be to sell inaccurate predictions?
If predictions in gambling were 100% accurate then people would always take loans from banks to gamble and become rich overnight. 100% results can never be expected from gambling predictions and experience. Success in gambling is entirely a matter of luck. A person who is lucky in gambling becomes rich overnight and a person who is not lucky in gambling always loses the bets and eventually loses everything and becomes bankrupt mentally.
Betting types always change In gambling no one can guarantee the correct future bets. If one wins once then one is very lucky but it is difficult to say who will win after that. This game is not a bet but it is a test of present intelligence which is not possible to understand in all cases. From a personal standpoint, one can go from losing wealth to bankruptcy in an instant. Since there are gains and losses in gambling it is not easy to determine when one becomes too much. Hence it is very difficult to predict it is best to proceed on your own advice.

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January 18, 2024, 12:59:42 PM
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Here I would add that by trusting experts, we are shifting responsibility to others, even if the other team wins in the end. We will begin to blame him for being bad and not understanding anything at all, but in this situation we will be the bad ones.

You’re right. People are increasingly wanting to become less and less responsible for their own actions. It’s much easier to blame someone or something else for our woes.
By trusting so called experts, we’ve made the decision to fully take the risk of choosing the path recommended by the experts. And when such predictions turn out to be wrong, it’s easy to lay all the fault at the feet of the expert conveniently forgetting that we were forced to follow the predictions of the experts.

Same with gambling addiction. People easily blame the activity itself  for them getting addicted. It’s absurd. Personal responsibility as a trait is getting harder to find in people.
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January 18, 2024, 03:40:03 PM
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If a person predicts the results correctly, what's the point of putting the predictions out in the open? You can take out a loan from the bank and pay it back quickly - and then only make a profit. After all, the predictions are accurate .... Or are they? If not - what kind of a bad person do you have to be to sell inaccurate predictions?
If predictions in gambling were 100% accurate then people would always take loans from banks to gamble and become rich overnight. 100% results can never be expected from gambling predictions and experience. Success in gambling is entirely a matter of luck. A person who is lucky in gambling becomes rich overnight and a person who is not lucky in gambling always loses the bets and eventually loses everything and becomes bankrupt mentally.
Betting types always change In gambling no one can guarantee the correct future bets. If one wins once then one is very lucky but it is difficult to say who will win after that. This game is not a bet but it is a test of present intelligence which is not possible to understand in all cases. From a personal standpoint, one can go from losing wealth to bankruptcy in an instant. Since there are gains and losses in gambling it is not easy to determine when one becomes too much. Hence it is very difficult to predict it is best to proceed on your own advice.

I agree with this, with the fact that gambling can change from one moment to another in a short period of time, and I also think that even though they are called experts in predicting it doesn't mean they won't experience defeat  because their predictions could be true,  but The fact that gambling can change quickly cannot be avoided, so it is very likely that the predictions they estimate could be wrong.

That's true, even when it comes to changes that can also happen to the players, where a rich person who gambles can also go bankrupt in a short period of time or in an instant if he can't control himself well over the gambling he does.  Profits and losses do exist in gambling because that is the final result in gambling, but in my opinion gamblers experience more losses. The slim chance of winning cannot be opposed or denied also with the house edge which will always win, because they also cannot possibly want to suffer a loss.

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January 19, 2024, 05:42:05 PM
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Here I would add that by trusting experts, we are shifting responsibility to others, even if the other team wins in the end. We will begin to blame him for being bad and not understanding anything at all, but in this situation we will be the bad ones.

You’re right. People are increasingly wanting to become less and less responsible for their own actions. It’s much easier to blame someone or something else for our woes.
By trusting so called experts, we’ve made the decision to fully take the risk of choosing the path recommended by the experts. And when such predictions turn out to be wrong, it’s easy to lay all the fault at the feet of the expert conveniently forgetting that we were forced to follow the predictions of the experts.

Same with gambling addiction. People easily blame the activity itself  for them getting addicted. It’s absurd. Personal responsibility as a trait is getting harder to find in people.

Just fooling yourself because entrusting your decision with so-called experts means that you are risking your own money following whatever they told you, if the outcome turned against you there's nothing to do as blaming them is not an option you follow and trust their judgement without any assurance that it will work or it will give you your desire win.

We all know that there's no assurance at all, just another wild pick and if things goes well your trust will increase, but if not, it's your money that lose and nothing from that so-called pro.

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January 19, 2024, 10:39:19 PM
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We all know that there's no assurance at all, just another wild pick and if things goes well your trust will increase, but if not, it's your money that lose and nothing from that so-called pro.

No risks at all at the side of these predictors. If they correctly guess the picks, then easy profit. If they are wrong, they will just move on to another pick. Easy money for these predictors. But what I'm more concern is, why there are people who still believes on that?

There are good at analysis but it's another story if we talk about, guessing the right bet. In sports betting, it's not just that we pick and analyze, as of course, we should maximize the potential of our analysis by taking a good odds and not just to stay at considered safe odds where profit is not that much.
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January 19, 2024, 10:58:52 PM
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We all know that there's no assurance at all, just another wild pick and if things goes well your trust will increase, but if not, it's your money that lose and nothing from that so-called pro.
Assurance in gambling? We don't control the system and I've no idea how we're able to maintain the points accumulated. There's something we classified as level in the system. We're careful when dealing with odds because it's more consider to be leverage in gambling, the same way we have lotsize and leverage in trading. I'm not 100% confident of the system but I ensure I'm always channeling my energy on spotting good relevant odds in the system, next thing I push forward for is generating quite an abundance to bet on a game, at the end of the day, the outcome will either be profit or loss.

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January 19, 2024, 11:16:01 PM
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Experts rarely share their strategies to people, as they are busier with figuring out those strategies than making money. A player whose goal is to make money may not be able to invest the time experts utilize in maintaining a strategy. That's why it'll be difficult to get an expert's prediction. They do not believe it can work for somebody else, even if they shared the technique, s/he won't understand or win from it. Gamblers are not encouraged to try people's strategies. It needs to be mastered and accepted by the gambler, that he'll be able to retain his techniques without getting fed up. People who claim this, being an expert, gamble for money, and needs extra sources of income. If a real expert opens up himself to the society, people will keep asking him questions. Definitely some predictions of the expert won't work. Then people can begin to divorce the expert.   
Those who depend on an expert must be able to find someone who can analyze well because, so far, it is very rare to get predictions from an expert. Those who claim to be experts always say that their predictions are accurate, even though that will not always happen. A true expert will not openly say that he is an expert, but he will only tell it to people who know him. These experts do not want to be relied on by people who expect their predictions. They can also gamble alone without anyone following their predictions because they really gamble responsibly. People who rely on someone who claims to be an expert should be able to think that the predictions of this person who claims to be an expert will not always be correct. They must learn to analyze the match themselves and not rely on an expert. By learning on his own from many sources, he can improve his analytical skills and place bets without having to wait for predictions from an expert.

Experts who sell their predictions, are not genuine most of the time. They are more concerned in selling those predictions as a means of making money through gambling, as wagering money offers lesser money in return. Most experts prioritize in making money in different means using gambling as the niche or the main center of attraction. Writing books, blog, tv shows, etc. include many other ways an expert can earn money from his skills and expertism. Sadly, the self-acclaimed experts we encounter these days don't care about making improvements. They bother only on sales. Gamblers that pay for predictions, complain, still, for losing out both ways. More expenses. Paid for the prediction, lost the game. The genuine experts who understand that no accurate strategy for winning in gambling, wouldn't guarantee anyone that they'll win using his predictions or strategy. A lot of experts boldly write in their book that their prediction shouldn't be taken as 100% accurate. Every gambler is expected to devise his own prediction and gamble. That's true fun. Winning out of someone else's prediction, only gives back the glory to the expert. Not the gambler.

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January 19, 2024, 11:26:59 PM
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We all know that there's no assurance at all, just another wild pick and if things goes well your trust will increase, but if not, it's your money that lose and nothing from that so-called pro.
Assurance in gambling? We don't control the system and I've no idea how we're able to maintain the points accumulated. There's something we classified as level in the system. We're careful when dealing with odds because it's more consider to be leverage in gambling, the same way we have lotsize and leverage in trading. I'm not 100% confident of the system but I ensure I'm always channeling my energy on spotting good relevant odds in the system, next thing I push forward for is generating quite an abundance to bet on a game, at the end of the day, the outcome will either be profit or loss.

That makes sense. While doing technical analysis on that said game, as a bettor, we should also consider the odds that will be chosen. Even how good we are in analyzing games, and forming a list of possible betting options, if the odds are not that interesting, we have no choice but to switch gears and risks on other betting options that are not listed in our analyzation.

It's also the reason why anyone should not follow self-proclaimed gambling predictions. Should be a common sense to others.
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That makes sense. While doing technical analysis on that said game, as a bettor, we should also consider the odds that will be chosen. Even how good we are in analyzing games, and forming a list of possible betting options, if the odds are not that interesting, we have no choice but to switch gears and risks on other betting options that are not listed in our analyzation.

It's also the reason why anyone should not follow self-proclaimed gambling predictions. Should be a common sense to others.

Technical analysis is nothing more than just describing a chart.

There is no prediction power from doing that. It has been proven all the time but somehow people still believe in this.

I guess it makes some people money so they keep offering these services. Makes sense in a way really.

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January 20, 2024, 07:15:14 AM
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People don't know how easy it is to be a gambling expert, everyone is free to become one but who will lose their money? The person predicting is not at any risk since they are not the one risking money, if losses comes you will lose and the expert will tell you sorry, that's all.
Left with me alone, I see no easy of difficult way a gambler would be a gambling expert as long as the gamblers Predictions are unassured. Song hence, there is no gambling expert rather anyone who has made countless winning in his gambling encounters is just a lucky predictional and a lucky winner.

No doubt @Outhue, gambling according to the instructions on the Predictions of a claimed gambling predictional is at the staking gamblers risk and not the said gambling expert because the expert has nothing to loose but the gambler who believed in him.

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Experts who sell their predictions, are not genuine most of the time. They are more concerned in selling those predictions as a means of making money through gambling, as wagering money offers lesser money in return. Most experts prioritize in making money in different means using gambling as the niche or the main center of attraction. Writing books, blog, tv shows, etc. include many other ways an expert can earn money from his skills and expertism. Sadly, the self-acclaimed experts we encounter these days don't care about making improvements. They bother only on sales. Gamblers that pay for predictions, complain, still, for losing out both ways. More expenses. Paid for the prediction, lost the game. The genuine experts who understand that no accurate strategy for winning in gambling, wouldn't guarantee anyone that they'll win using his predictions or strategy. A lot of experts boldly write in their book that their prediction shouldn't be taken as 100% accurate. Every gambler is expected to devise his own prediction and gamble. That's true fun. Winning out of someone else's prediction, only gives back the glory to the expert. Not the gambler.
Those who sell their predictions to people often get predictions from other prediction groups and then spread them among their own groups and say that it is the result of their analysis. People who use that prediction will not know at all if it is not the result of their analysis. Those people will be very happy to get these predictions and will immediately place their bets. That is why we have to learn to analyze ourselves and try to find sources of information that we can trust. We need to look for more information about the match that will take place for each team. This can help us to analyze each team so that we can continue to learn good and correct ways of analyzing. We also won't depend on people who share their predictions with people because we can already predict and know which team we can choose as a bet. But when someone shares a prediction with the public, we can use it after we do further analysis to find out how he got the prediction results. It is also part of improving our way of analyzing a match.

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January 20, 2024, 03:04:20 PM
 #340

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That makes sense. While doing technical analysis on that said game, as a bettor, we should also consider the odds that will be chosen. Even how good we are in analyzing games, and forming a list of possible betting options, if the odds are not that interesting, we have no choice but to switch gears and risks on other betting options that are not listed in our analyzation.

It's also the reason why anyone should not follow self-proclaimed gambling predictions. Should be a common sense to others.

Technical analysis is nothing more than just describing a chart.

There is no prediction power from doing that. It has been proven all the time but somehow people still believe in this.

I guess it makes some people money so they keep offering these services. Makes sense in a way really.
It seems that you don't know the power behind betting predictions. I had won more in predictions than the one I used my strategy to bet on. This is why we need to know the kind of predictions we are using so that we don't come back as complain later that the predictions was wrong. For those of us that had been making some profits from predicted games, we would understand how important betting predictions could help us to win more in gambling. We don't have to relent so much on gambling predictions because we can't determine the out of a game or match by what we say or the past record. Anything can happen at anytime.

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