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January 05, 2024, 02:42:47 PM
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Exhibition matches are pathetic, and don't deserve the hype!!

I know you might want to say these are some of the biggest names in this sport but for an exhibition match and watching 50 year olds box 🥊🥊

sorry not to my taste...and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends In a draw like the Tyson fight  Tongue as this is the best result for all parties involved and likely the best time to make money off punters who will likely go all in on the money team (TMT).
honestly Not looking forward to this one sorry, as the last time I was out supporting Pacquiao he was robbed, and never do I want history to repeat itself..

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January 05, 2024, 03:44:34 PM
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If the rematch takes place this year, Manny will be happy that his lifelong dream has come true because the last time the two legends squared off in a boxing ring, which took place in Nevada on May 2, 2015, Manny complained bitterly that Mayweather didn't win rather he won.

Part 2 of the fight, which will take place in neutral ground ''Japan", will be an exciting contest to watch because Manny will give it his all to win, and Mayweather will show him that, even though he retired from boxing six ago and he stays undefeated (50-0), he can still defeat him at any time.

Since the announcement of the rematch by Manny, Mayweather hasn't made any statements regarding his desire to fight Manny again, so none of us know if he would accept to fight Manny in an exhibition match, this year. Hands crossed whether Mayweather would agree to fight Manny yet again

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January 05, 2024, 03:45:27 PM
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This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.
Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. Cheesy

Regardless if it is an exhibition match or not, the fact that these two (2) legends will face one more in the ring is enough for me to be sold.

As a Filipino, my heart really goes out to Pacquiao. He is the only boxer to win eight (Cool division titles in different categories which is enough for him to be listed at least on the top 5 GOATs of boxing. While many people see Mayweather as a "runner," his style of boxing revolves around hitting and not being hit. While he is indeed a technical fighter who plays for the score cards, Pacquiao is an explosive fighter who fights fire with fire- his style of aggressiveness and quickness will definitely wear out their opponents.

Even if it is an exhibition match, again, I super look forward in watching this fight. I just hope that this fight would also spark numerous debates regarding on who is the better fighter- but as an exhibition match, they can get away with it and reason otherwise.
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January 05, 2024, 03:52:05 PM
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If the rematch takes place this year, Manny will be happy that his lifelong dream has come true because the last time the two legends squared off in a boxing ring, which took place in Nevada on May 2, 2015, Manny complained bitterly that Mayweather didn't win rather he won.

I’m a Filipino but Mayweather won that fight. It’s not a convincingly win since he outsmarted Pacquiao through points by not fighting toe to toe but he really win considering the number of punches land and not only about solid blows punches landed.

Part 2 of the fight, which will take place in neutral ground ''Japan", will be an exciting contest to watch because Manny will give it his all to win, and Mayweather will show him that, even though he retired from boxing six ago and he stays undefeated (50-0), he can still defeat him at any time.

I doubt this match will happened outside US since Mayweather never fought outside the US in his professional career. I knew this is just an exhibition match but I believe all of us will agree that the result of this rematch can be considered as official record on the record of this 2 fighter.

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January 05, 2024, 03:59:32 PM
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Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.


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Mayweather vs Pacquiao II is set to happen on a RIZIN card in 2024, according to Manny Pacquiao and RIZIN boss Nobuyuki Sakakibara.

The announcement was made on New Year’s Eve in Japan as Pacquiao attended as a special guest.

“Pac-Man” stated he had permission to confirm the fight when taking to the microphone.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao rematch in 2024
“I hope to see you in Japan in a big fight against Floyd Mayweather,’ Pacquiao stated. “I’m excited for that.”

Read more : https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/12/31/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-rematch-confirmed/

From the article mentioned in OP it looks like they have already had a match in 2015 where Mayweather won the match against Pacquiao.
But the fans wanted a rematch and may be that's why they are doing it right now.
Pacquiao already has a match with Buakaw Banchamek in April and so we don't know yet when the match will happen.

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January 05, 2024, 04:56:12 PM
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sorry not to my taste...and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends In a draw like the Tyson fight  Tongue as this is the best result for all parties involved and likely the best time to make money off punters who will likely go all in on the money team (TMT).
honestly Not looking forward to this one sorry, as the last time I was out supporting Pacquiao he was robbed, and never do I want history to repeat itself..

Exhibition matches in boxing have always the possibility of ending up in a non-concluded fight. It's for entertainment purposes that's why it is called an exhibition match from the start. It's not surprising to see DRAW result in an exhibition match since that was already expected from the start. I know it's not your taste to bet on that but just want to clarify that you can't compare it in a professional sanction fight.

I also don't think that bookies will cover this event and list this event on their sportsbook.
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January 05, 2024, 05:15:19 PM
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Seems like mayweather has no plans of damaging his record for this exhibition match. Don't get me wrong; Floyd has a good offensive and defensive skill but no doubt that he would be cautious of his opponent given that pacquiao is also experienced and won't be too careless even if it is an exhibition match. They fought each other already and for sure they know how to handle things properly. If it would be with power the Manny definitely has the advantage but not all things would be carried away by brute force alone. This is sports we are talking about and anything could happen inside the box including emergencies, which we should be alao careful of if it is our bet we are worried of.
Unless Mayweather announces this to the public and will start building hype, I will remove the possibility that this might not be pushed.

It's unusual for me to see Mayweather just participate in an exhibition match without any thoughts. Reading also the article, it's clear that Pacquiao's side seems the only one aggressive in the exhibition match. No statements were brought up on the Mayweather side.

But like anyone else, I hope this will happen for real, and not when Pacman and Mayweather are now in their 50s lol.

Upon checking the news posted in different social media sites, There's  also an actual news right now announced that both of them are promoting their match. Well, it will surely one of the most awaiting match in boxing history, I hope this time Manny pacquiao win the title. I really thought that Manny Pacquiao had retired from boxing because he was busy with the senate, so I was also very surprised when I saw the news that there would be a rematch, for sure many people would be waiting and the bet would be big.

Quite if a money game for them. If it is with sports then it is more likely to be in favor of Floyd given his reputation of being undefeated. I think pacquiao is only up for this for money and that is a normal drive to possess given that titles and history is on the line.

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January 05, 2024, 08:08:52 PM
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I think pacquiao is only up for this for money and that is a normal drive to possess given that titles and history is on the line.

Money matters yes but I disagree that Manny is only up for this money. The dude can't just forget boxing and he's even still in shape to fight in a professional match. There are lots of short interviews before on his post-retirement where he mentioned that he's still doing his usual regime in boxing-related training and he misses coming back again in the ring that's why he's here in the exhibition match scene.

Mayweather is the only one up for the money.  Cheesy But is that what the exhibition matches for, right? Money is included in the scene. It's also hard to arrange exhibition matches between legend names. Let's also add that this exhibition match between Pacquiao and Mayweather will happen not on their too much old age.

Mayweather retired in 2017 while Manny in 2021. And just imagine a few years later they will be in the exhibition match. Surely it will be a good treat for those people who can witness the fight live as it might not happen again in the future.

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January 05, 2024, 09:14:23 PM
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Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.


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Mayweather vs Pacquiao II is set to happen on a RIZIN card in 2024, according to Manny Pacquiao and RIZIN boss Nobuyuki Sakakibara.

The announcement was made on New Year’s Eve in Japan as Pacquiao attended as a special guest.

“Pac-Man” stated he had permission to confirm the fight when taking to the microphone.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao rematch in 2024
“I hope to see you in Japan in a big fight against Floyd Mayweather,’ Pacquiao stated. “I’m excited for that.”

Read more : https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/12/31/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-rematch-confirmed/

From the article mentioned in OP it looks like they have already had a match in 2015 where Mayweather won the match against Pacquiao.
But the fans wanted a rematch and may be that's why they are doing it right now.
Pacquiao already has a match with Buakaw Banchamek in April and so we don't know yet when the match will happen.

Pacquiao though admitted that after the fight that he has some sort of injuries in his shoulder, not an excuse by he is not 100% and I think others will agree that the fight is late already. They should have fought way before, when Manny is destroying everyone, but Floyd wasn't ready yet or just waited for Manny to decline and get punished, knockout by Marquez.

That's how clever Mayweather is, and probably this is the argument against him as the greatest and most likely as well why there are boxing analyst that claim that Manny is better prime for prime against Floyd because Manny is not afraid to face anyone during his prime.
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January 05, 2024, 09:20:55 PM
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sorry not to my taste...and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends In a draw like the Tyson fight  Tongue as this is the best result for all parties involved and likely the best time to make money off punters who will likely go all in on the money team (TMT).
honestly Not looking forward to this one sorry, as the last time I was out supporting Pacquiao he was robbed, and never do I want history to repeat itself..

Exhibition matches in boxing have always the possibility of ending up in a non-concluded fight. It's for entertainment purposes that's why it is called an exhibition match from the start. It's not surprising to see DRAW result in an exhibition match since that was already expected from the start. I know it's not your taste to bet on that but just want to clarify that you can't compare it in a professional sanction fight.

It's possible, one of the earliest exhibition matches, Tyson vs Jones Jr, ended in a draw when obviously, Tyson looks poised to get that win. And it was evidently that everyone has colluded, the referee, the judges themselves to make the match even at the end of the fight.

I also don't think that bookies will cover this event and list this event on their sportsbook.

I disagree though, we have seen exhibition matches with Jake Paul or even Floyd Mayweather being listed on sports book even if the odds are almost in the favor of this two. And for sure there are gamblers that are willing to bet on this kind of matches. And here we are talking about two of the best in our generation? This will listed 100% as it will generate a lot of busy to crypto based sports bookies.
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January 05, 2024, 09:27:12 PM
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sorry not to my taste...and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends In a draw like the Tyson fight  Tongue as this is the best result for all parties involved and likely the best time to make money off punters who will likely go all in on the money team (TMT).
honestly Not looking forward to this one sorry, as the last time I was out supporting Pacquiao he was robbed, and never do I want history to repeat itself..

Exhibition matches in boxing have always the possibility of ending up in a non-concluded fight. It's for entertainment purposes that's why it is called an exhibition match from the start. It's not surprising to see DRAW result in an exhibition match since that was already expected from the start. I know it's not your taste to bet on that but just want to clarify that you can't compare it in a professional sanction fight.

I also don't think that bookies will cover this event and list this event on their sportsbook.

this is what i am thinking here as well. it can very well end up draw as both promoters may have had their prior arrangement already even before they step inside the ring. i would say, better watch the exhibition fight and not bet on this. we may be fooled by the promoters here thinking that there's big money on the line and yet, they already have the results ready to announce.

I think pacquiao is only up for this for money and that is a normal drive to possess given that titles and history is on the line.

Money matters yes but I disagree that Manny is only up for this money. The dude can't just forget boxing and he's even still in shape to fight in a professional match. There are lots of short interviews before on his post-retirement where he mentioned that he's still doing his usual regime in boxing-related training and he misses coming back again in the ring that's why he's here in the exhibition match scene.

Mayweather is the only one up for the money.  Cheesy But is that what the exhibition matches for, right? Money is included in the scene. It's also hard to arrange exhibition matches between legend names. Let's also add that this exhibition match between Pacquiao and Mayweather will happen not on their too much old age.

Mayweather retired in 2017 while Manny in 2021. And just imagine a few years later they will be in the exhibition match. Surely it will be a good treat for those people who can witness the fight live as it might not happen again in the future.

that i can say, have the shade of truth. for pacquiao, he will fight toe-to-toe and still give his best foot forward. and that is not for money but for the love of boxing and showing to his fans what he's got. but for mayweather, money is still his topmost priority and not his performance. expect running around the ring even if this is only exhibition fight. maybe another disappointment match from mayweather.

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January 05, 2024, 09:36:45 PM
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I think pacquiao is only up for this for money and that is a normal drive to possess given that titles and history is on the line.

Money matters yes but I disagree that Manny is only up for this money. The dude can't just forget boxing and he's even still in shape to fight in a professional match. There are lots of short interviews before on his post-retirement where he mentioned that he's still doing his usual regime in boxing-related training and he misses coming back again in the ring that's why he's here in the exhibition match scene.

Mayweather is the only one up for the money.  Cheesy But is that what the exhibition matches for, right? Money is included in the scene. It's also hard to arrange exhibition matches between legend names. Let's also add that this exhibition match between Pacquiao and Mayweather will happen not on their too much old age.

Mayweather retired in 2017 while Manny in 2021. And just imagine a few years later they will be in the exhibition match. Surely it will be a good treat for those people who can witness the fight live as it might not happen again in the future.
Well this is true on which there are really indeed people who cant really just that forget on the sports or career that they are really that into on which despite on being that retired, they would really be still loving on
having those fights even if its really just that an exhibition. Everything cant really be just that money just like on what others been saying that these fighters are really that in for the money on which
we know that it would really be just that normal or typical that they would really be having that kind of fund generation or earning because of the things that they've been doing.
This is really just that depending since not everything would really be that for the money. Also, lots of fans would really be liking to see again these great fighters to be on the ring
even those stats wont really be that official but at least we are really some seeing some good entertainment on here.

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God. This is an endless story actually, since how many years we hear rumors about this fight? I think people has halted to wait for it since quite a long time now, they've turned the page and moved on, so I'm not sure it will be the event used to be expected. They're getting old and they've stopped the competition since several years years now, 6 years for Mayweather, 3 years for Pacquiao. That's a long time for a sports champion.

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Mayweather vs Pacquiao II

Is it just me or does this fight is not half as interesting as the first fight, considering that the first match both fighters are out of their prime. Well, regardless this would definitely sell more than most of the professional fights today because both of them are legends and this match itself is legendary as well.
We all know that this match is all business only and both fighters wouldn't wanna risk giving each other a devastating finish. Now, the question is, will the bookies put a betting lines for this match the answer will be a big Yes. So, for those who wants to place a bet, choose your odds wisely lol.
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Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.

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well, Mayweather is 46 years old, the guy hasn't fought for a long time, but he has been training, although I highly doubt it's training at the level of a professional fighter, because as he wouldn't have any fights, it wouldn't make much sense for him to he trained a lot. on the other side we have Pacquiao who is 45 years old. Both fighters are no longer young, but as they don't have a big age difference, it seems to me that this will be a balanced fight in which the winner will depend on the physical attributes of each fighter and the strategy that each fighter will adopt. in boxi the time interval in which fights have been held, for example, it is very normal for a fight involving professional fighters to be scheduled for 5 or more months later

and when it gets close to the fight, a fighter gets sick, so they postpone the fight and when they reschedule the fight, they choose it for 5 months later, so people and fighters spend more than 1 year waiting for a fight or more than 5 months waiting for a fight . By this I mean that all this time that these two fighters have been inactive in professional competitions is not a big problem. The biggest problem with these two fighters is their age, over 45 years old, it seems to me that it is an age at which people start to be slower, and an age at which people get tired faster, especially when they are retired. For some time, the body gets used to the lighter routine. I see that this fight could be fun, but it won't be a fight at the level of current professional boxers

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Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.

The rules could be different than the professinal fight since this is just an exhibition fight. they can choose to fight and now winner will be declared just like other exhibition fights, but it's up to them. What's important now is that it will be finalized, people will start talking so the hype will continue.

And yes, it's quick bucks for them, and we can't blame them, they work hard for their position in life now, and people wants to see both legandary fighter fight again, despite it's only an exhibition fight.

Don't worry about corruption, it only happen in pro fights.

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January 06, 2024, 01:20:46 PM
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Or Mayweather will not pursue it. If they fight I do hope they'll fight their might considering many has been awaiting this for years already especially when they haven't retired from the boxing yet and for sure the excitement was still there but most was really into the intensity of the match and for sure if they fight again it wouldn't be there considering it's just an exhibition.
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There's no assurance that it could become the biggest entertainment fight of the year but I bet many will watch this. Manny Pacquiao has so many fans, especially in his own country, the Philippines. I will definitely support Manny here and I want to see if he still have those big punches that could shake Mayweather.
The upset here is if Mayweather plays the same way as he did against him. I know it's just for an exhibition match but it's not fun to see a boxer who just keeps on dodging and not even trying to box. I mean, we have seen Mike Tyson so upset with how Mayweather performs and many Filipinos also don't like what happened back then. There's not much action because of the clinch and dodge strategy. I love it more when Manny is up against front fighters who will test whose chin is stronger.
Anyway, I hope this will be a successful one. Both are big names in the industry but I am still hoping for some good action.
Yeah that is one of the problem there clinch and dodge. Why a problem? It is because those people who pay on PPV just to watch a lot of action in this fight might turn to upset for many boxing fans if Mayweather keep on clinching and dodging. Though it is part of boxing but using it the whole time is annoying and is not worth the money you pay for that match.



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January 07, 2024, 01:32:10 PM
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Or Mayweather will not pursue it. If they fight I do hope they'll fight their might considering many has been awaiting this for years already especially when they haven't retired from the boxing yet and for sure the excitement was still there but most was really into the intensity of the match and for sure if they fight again it wouldn't be there considering it's just an exhibition.

Still going to be for fun and entertainment as Mayweather is not willing to put his boxing records in the line. So he will pursue this for the money obvious as others have said. But for fans, we can still some excitement in this fight as we wanted to see a rematch that never happen and this is the closest that we might see them again in the ring although it might not be competitive if this is a professional fight and maybe there is a championship belt in the line.

As for the clinch and dodge style of Mayweather, we are already used to that kind of fight from him. Others might argue that it's a effective method for him and no one has crack the riddle of his defense, his Philly defense and then his counter punching.

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