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January 08, 2024, 05:19:22 PM
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Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  Cheesy

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.

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January 08, 2024, 05:25:17 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2024, 08:35:03 PM by AmoreJaz
 #82

Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  Cheesy

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.

or course, the very reason why this exhibition fight will happen is because of big monies involved. just think of mayweather if he will agree to such fight without tons of money on the line. i can believe if pacquiao is agreeing for this match to be a charitable one. even if he has nothing to  gain and just provide something for his chosen charitable group. but with mayweather, it would be hard to believe if there's no huge money involved and if he does agree with the terms to his favour.

in any case, i understand boxing fans are still wanting to see these 2 inside the ring one more time. so yeah, they can still fetch good gate purse for this fight. of course, the promoters are getting their share here as well, so definitely, they will push for this exhibition match as much as possible.

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January 08, 2024, 06:08:31 PM
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Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  Cheesy
But on the other side, if they are not going to show an exhibition match,  that would just solidify that boxing was just a money machine for them and not their sport passion. We know money is involved on this match, actually in all of sport, we can't deny that but these men are fighting for their pride and skills. We know Pacman lost on scorecard but deep inside we know who show the true heart of a warrior, we know who won the first fight.

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.
Man, it is an exhibition match, it's non tournament fight or fighting for a belt, Pac doesn't need more any belt lmao he has and only has the 8 world division champ.
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January 08, 2024, 09:02:56 PM
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Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  Cheesy

That's the very definition of exhibition matches, fights that we might have missed during their primes, although they have fought before and Floyd won. But this time, if they can still fight and then make huge money, then why not? And so with that, they can't missed their opportunity again as they know that fans are willing to pay to watch them fight again.

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.

It could end in a draw or still Floyd winning the fight. But it doesn't matter though as this is not a professional fight, all for the money and records are not affected. And again, as you have said, it's for entertainment purposes only so this could not be counted for the discussions as who is better as we think or at least majority here thinks that Manny has a great career as compare to Floyd, just saying.

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January 08, 2024, 10:05:02 PM
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I have mixed feelings about fights like this one.
On one hand, we all know they are only doing this for the money, they are both retired for quite some time now, they could've re-run it for the second time before retirement, but chose not to. Oftentimes when fighters decide to return from retirement is because of some financial problems and they have no choice, which is kind of sad.
But, on the other hand, it's still more exciting than most of the current boxing fights and I'd be happy to watch it, provided both of them are at least in decent shape and it's not a pure money-grab.
It's good for boxing, and if both of them are fit enough, with no serious health issues, and if both are willing - then why not?

I don't think that fight will break any PPV records as some here are suggesting. They are too far past their prime for that.

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January 09, 2024, 09:57:49 AM
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I have mixed feelings about fights like this one.
On one hand, we all know they are only doing this for the money, they are both retired for quite some time now, they could've re-run it for the second time before retirement, but chose not to. Oftentimes when fighters decide to return from retirement is because of some financial problems and they have no choice, which is kind of sad.
But, on the other hand, it's still more exciting than most of the current boxing fights and I'd be happy to watch it, provided both of them are at least in decent shape and it's not a pure money-grab.
It's good for boxing, and if both of them are fit enough, with no serious health issues, and if both are willing - then why not?

I don't think that fight will break any PPV records as some here are suggesting. They are too far past their prime for that.

We can't really tell, but for sure the PPV numbers are still going to be huge, there are still a lot of interest coming from boxing fans, and so there is a demand. And we all know that if there is a demand, meaning fans are willing to buy the ticket either PPV or live gates.

Of course both of them are way past their prime. But their names still magnifies up to this day, arguments as who is the greatest amongst the two and that kind of discussions in not going to end. So we are still very curious as who is going to win when they face each other again even if it is just for exhibition fight.

 
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January 09, 2024, 09:52:23 PM
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We can't really tell, but for sure the PPV numbers are still going to be huge, there are still a lot of interest coming from boxing fans, and so there is a demand. And we all know that if there is a demand, meaning fans are willing to buy the ticket either PPV or live gates.

Of course both of them are way past their prime. But their names still magnifies up to this day, arguments as who is the greatest amongst the two and that kind of discussions in not going to end. So we are still very curious as who is going to win when they face each other again even if it is just for exhibition fight.

Kind of depends on how you define "huge". Their first fight brought around $400 millions in revenue (according to wikipedia. If this fight gets $50 millions, it will probably be called a success (that's the revenue they got from Mayweather vs. Paul, which was heavily hyped up).
Pacquiao will bring millions of Filipino viewers, but most of them won't be happy in paying for PPV, so won't be bringing in any huge money.

As for the chances, I'd definitely bet on Mayweather, even though I'd prefer Many to win. Simply Floyd has been pretty active after his "retirement", and fought quite a few exhibition fights.

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January 09, 2024, 09:58:56 PM
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Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  Cheesy

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.

or course, the very reason why this exhibition fight will happen is because of big monies involved. just think of mayweather if he will agree to such fight without tons of money on the line. i can believe if pacquiao is agreeing for this match to be a charitable one. even if he has nothing to  gain and just provide something for his chosen charitable group. but with mayweather, it would be hard to believe if there's no huge money involved and if he does agree with the terms to his favour.

in any case, i understand boxing fans are still wanting to see these 2 inside the ring one more time. so yeah, they can still fetch good gate purse for this fight. of course, the promoters are getting their share here as well, so definitely, they will push for this exhibition match as much as possible.
The advantage on being that one of the greatest or known boxers or fighters or even on other sports on which you could really be having that chance or possibilities on having these exhibition fights that despite
on being retired or being old, you could still be able to make money out of these fights and this is what they are doing it now. Well there's nothing we can do if they would really be setting up those kind of fights on which as long it would be involving money then this is where they would really be making themselves agreeing into those things on which it is really just that typical that they would be having no rejections
on doing so since big money is involved on here. Somewhat this fight would really be  that making that huge one considering that this is a rematch after that first fight even though this one isnt official but people would really be assuming that this is something that could prove out on whose the greatest among the two.  Grin

Lots of interesting fights for this year whether exhibition or official matches. Im that eager to see and of course the entire boxing fans would really be rooting
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Lots of interesting fights for this year whether exhibition or official matches.

I don't think there's actually much going on in the official boxing right now. Other than Fury Vs Usyk, there don't seem to be many high calibre fights. Or maybe I'm just misinformed and being unfair. It's just it doesn't look like there are enough exciting fighters that could be interesting to the audience from the outside of a die-hard boxing fans circle.
That's probably one of the reasons Pacquiao Vs Mayweather could work out pretty well and bring back more excitement to the sport.

I just learnt that Anthony Joshua will be fighting Francis Ngannou this year, but hard to say if this should be classed as "official boxing" or more of an exhibition.

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Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.

obviously this match is only for money not for an achievement. both are equally old. maywahter is 46 years old while pacman paquio is 45 years old. even maywather has stepped down from the professional ring. matches are only exhibition matches. the same when maywahter fought with MMA fighter conor mygregor was only an exhibition match. after stepping down from the professional ring maywahter only fought in exhibition fights that had big names too so he could make a lot of money.

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Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

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Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

Mayweather will likely to win but the excitement they will bring is enough for the fans to be happy. Most likely, Mayweather will still be using his style which is hit and run, but at his age now, I'm thinking maybe he has slowed down a bit and that would give Manny a chance to catch him.

This fight was only confirm Manny's side, we haven't heard from Mayweather yet, probably they are still waiting until Manny finish his fight with Buakaw, then they will start promoting this fight.

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Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

I have not seen any official confirmation from Floyd yet. There was some videos on YouTube that are trying to build hype for this fight but when you click on them they are just a bunch of AI-generated clickbait garbage piecing together out of context quotes and old video footage. You would think that if this fight was really happening, Floyd would be all over social media running his mouth and publicizing this event.

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January 10, 2024, 11:49:04 AM
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Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
They didn't hide the fact that it was all about money, because with all due respect to Pacquiao, Mayweather was out of reach in those years.

You can dislike Mayweather behavior, with the display of wealth and advertising a bunch of brands, but as a boxer he was very good. It seems that nobody could find a key to him in those years, and Mayweather did not fight as often as Pacquiao, but he always asked for the biggest fees.

No official confirmation yet, but apparently he couldn't find the money for Mayweather's fee yet. Last time he got about $100 million dollars last time with all the payoffs.

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Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

Mayweather will likely to win but the excitement they will bring is enough for the fans to be happy. Most likely, Mayweather will still be using his style which is hit and run, but at his age now, I'm thinking maybe he has slowed down a bit and that would give Manny a chance to catch him.

This fight was only confirm Manny's side, we haven't heard from Mayweather yet, probably they are still waiting until Manny finish his fight with Buakaw, then they will start promoting this fight.

If this happen once again Manny Pacquiao vs mayweather  then we can see a good fight as we all know that they are in their older age  and they are getting slower than before in their prime years which is now they have the difference speed than Before but as of this moment Manny pacman will have a chance to beat Mayweather as we all know that the fighting style of Mayweather is more on hit and back which is he can't fight in to face to face cause he is already knew that he can't beat Manny in that strategy.
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Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

Mayweather will likely to win but the excitement they will bring is enough for the fans to be happy. Most likely, Mayweather will still be using his style which is hit and run, but at his age now, I'm thinking maybe he has slowed down a bit and that would give Manny a chance to catch him.

This fight was only confirm Manny's side, we haven't heard from Mayweather yet, probably they are still waiting until Manny finish his fight with Buakaw, then they will start promoting this fight.

If this happen once again Manny Pacquiao vs mayweather  then we can see a good fight as we all know that they are in their older age  and they are getting slower than before in their prime years which is now they have the difference speed than Before but as of this moment Manny pacman will have a chance to beat Mayweather as we all know that the fighting style of Mayweather is more on hit and back which is he can't fight in to face to face cause he is already knew that he can't beat Manny in that strategy.

Hopefully there's no disturbance will happen and Mayweather will like the offer negotiated to him so that they can make this fight to happen. Many fans really rotting for this fight since its like a unfinish business that need to settle since people are still speculating about who between them is really the best fighter on their era. If happen that Pacquiao will beat Mayweather for sure this can revive the discussion that he deserve to be the number one pound for pound king on their era and not Mayweather.

Further developments will come so hope to see this fight to happen since many people will get disappointed if another postponed fight will happen between them.

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You can dislike Mayweather behavior, with the display of wealth and advertising a bunch of brands, but as a boxer he was very good. It seems that nobody could find a key to him in those years, and Mayweather did not fight as often as Pacquiao, but he always asked for the biggest fees.
No official confirmation yet, but apparently he couldn't find the money for Mayweather's fee yet. Last time he got about $100 million dollars last time with all the payoffs.

They really need to make it official if they want to make some more money out of it because they are still popular despite their age since they are still active in the boxing gyms which makes their body fit and strong enough to fight once more. I'm sure everyone wanted to see them fight without any injuries because it was really a waste when they fought against each other last time without their 100% especially Pacquiao. Pacquiao's last fight was more entertaining though because he was just playing with his opponent but I think it would not be the same against Buakaw this year, it will be another serious scenario for him.

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You can dislike Mayweather behavior, with the display of wealth and advertising a bunch of brands, but as a boxer he was very good. It seems that nobody could find a key to him in those years, and Mayweather did not fight as often as Pacquiao, but he always asked for the biggest fees.
No official confirmation yet, but apparently he couldn't find the money for Mayweather's fee yet. Last time he got about $100 million dollars last time with all the payoffs.

They really need to make it official if they want to make some more money out of it because they are still popular despite their age since they are still active in the boxing gyms which makes their body fit and strong enough to fight once more. I'm sure everyone wanted to see them fight without any injuries because it was really a waste when they fought against each other last time without their 100% especially Pacquiao. Pacquiao's last fight was more entertaining though because he was just playing with his opponent but I think it would not be the same against Buakaw this year, it will be another serious scenario for him.
You mean DKyoo? Yes, that was just a warm up and you could really be able to tell that fight experience and power is really that in huge gap but still its not really that bad but if you are really that a boxing
fan or enthusiast then that fight is really just that laughable. As for against Buakaw then i cant say that it would be a challenge for him, im not underestimating buakaw but since we are playing or having that boxing game rules then it would really be just that normal and we could already say on who would gonna win but since this is really just that an exhibition. Now that they do have rematch with Mayweather
then i could really say that this is much more interesting considering that both fighters are legends on Boxing sports. This is where you could really be able to tell that this exhibition fight would really be interesting.
Outcomes or statistics might not be that official but at least we are seeing this kind of fight which it didnt happen before into their prime days.

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obviously this match is only for money not for an achievement. both are equally old. maywahter is 46 years old while pacman paquio is 45 years old.

That's actually not that old, there are boxers of similar age out there still competing in official fights. Mike Tyson was 54 when he did his came back to fight Roy Jones Jr, and they pull off a pretty decent show. Mike still had a pretty slick movement despite being a heavyweight.
We know Mayweather was quire active with all his exhibition fights etc, so if Many Pacquiao is also in a god shape and hasn't spent last years drinking beer on a couch, then there's a big chance that fight could be at fairly decent level.

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You can dislike Mayweather behavior, with the display of wealth and advertising a bunch of brands, but as a boxer he was very good. It seems that nobody could find a key to him in those years, and Mayweather did not fight as often as Pacquiao, but he always asked for the biggest fees.
No official confirmation yet, but apparently he couldn't find the money for Mayweather's fee yet. Last time he got about $100 million dollars last time with all the payoffs.

They really need to make it official if they want to make some more money out of it because they are still popular despite their age since they are still active in the boxing gyms which makes their body fit and strong enough to fight once more. I'm sure everyone wanted to see them fight without any injuries because it was really a waste when they fought against each other last time without their 100% especially Pacquiao. Pacquiao's last fight was more entertaining though because he was just playing with his opponent but I think it would not be the same against Buakaw this year, it will be another serious scenario for him.
Mayweather is 45 years old, Pacquiao seems to be 2 years younger than him, but as you noticed they are in great shape now and I'm sure if this fight takes place it could be much more interesting than the fights of modern boxers.

From a sporting point of view of course this fight does not make any sense, but as a kind of exhibition or entertainment it can be quite interesting for spectators, as a fight between some of the best boxers of their generation, and in the case of Mayweather, perhaps the best boxer of his era.

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