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January 04, 2024, 11:26:48 PM
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Never encourage bad things and following the rules of the government is necessary though.
That's rebellion and I think that he's got his intention and hatred towards his government. Anyway, if he likes to do this purpose and cause he's telling us. What's best is to do it on his initiative wherever he is right now and stop hallucinating people into things that they don't want to do, it's just so bad.
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January 05, 2024, 06:05:08 PM
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Full stablecoins and crypto no taxes no slavery only freedom now

You need to pay taxes for crypto earnings too because its considered as digital asset even though it is not accepted as legal tender, and not paying the tax is a violation and you will be given a hefty penalty or may end up behind bars too.

Never encourage bad things and following the rules of the government is necessary though.

The US is a country of private property and the right to contract.

If your Bitcoins are your private property, they cannot be taxed unless you contract with government that they can be taxed. If they can be taxed without your contracting to do so, then they were not your property in the first place.

The other point to this is explicit contracting. If you own the bitcoin (it's your property), but government forces you to pay taxes on your property even though you didn't contract with them to do so, it's because they thought that you contracted with them.

If the man/woman in government won't show you the contract when you ask for it, time to sue them in their personal capacity... not as a government official.

Same with IRS taxes. Your labor on the job is a trade of your property, for property belonging to your employer. Money is simply a means of exchange, but it is charged with private property, thereby giving it value. The IRS can't legally take your property. How do they get away with it? Because you contracted with them to let them do it. When or how did you contract with them? You filled out and signed a Form W-4. In doing this, you essentially called yourself a taxpayer.

What you need to do is fill out every form with government, signed, "non-assumpsit, (Your Signature)," on the signature line. "Non-Assumpsit" means no contract. It means that you are not contracting with government, yet they can get the info they are looking for from you by looking at the form. However, your best bet is to not fill any info on any of the lines of the form, except to identify your person that is contracting with them by no-contract.

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January 07, 2024, 01:27:18 AM
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Yes people wake up now and that's why people Will stop obey goverment and Banks but Will go full in crypto.
Full stablecoins and crypto no taxes no slavery only freedom now
You need to understand that even the government are now putting there eyes into cryptocurrency. They want to regulate everything that comes onboard so that we can not make decisions of our own. The Bitcoin ETF that w had been agitating on for several months now is not yet confirmed by the SEC. The government would always make decisions that would benefit themselves not the public in general.
We should not be surprised that very soon the government would start controlling every aspects of cryptocurrency.









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January 07, 2024, 06:06:50 PM
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Yes people wake up now and that's why people Will stop obey goverment and Banks but Will go full in crypto.
Full stablecoins and crypto no taxes no slavery only freedom now
u know that taxes use to finance investments the human capital and new project of thr country, its so important to the government to colect the taxes
they wont let you get ur freedoom as simple as you think
but its too important to try it
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January 09, 2024, 12:42:56 AM
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Yes people wake up now and that's why people Will stop obey goverment and Banks but Will go full in crypto.
Full stablecoins and crypto no taxes no slavery only freedom now
u know that taxes use to finance investments the human capital and new project of thr country, its so important to the government to colect the taxes
they wont let you get ur freedoom as simple as you think
but its too important to try it

I mean, I can understand why people do not like taxes, they can be sometimes be perceived as unfair and exaggerated to certain group of individuals, but whether we like it or not, taxes are important for serious governments to run effectively, specially in countries where the most of the income is made by private companies and not the government itself. For example, in my country, for a very long time people had not paid personal taxes, because the government owned the oil and also the company in charge to exploit the oil fields here, so they could afford to keep the government running by themselves. Since in the United States and in other countries those who exploit the natural resources are private entities, then collecting taxes is necessary to keep the government running.

It may be not the best or simplest system, but as long as there is not a huge deficit, then it should work fairly well.

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January 09, 2024, 03:39:54 PM
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A self-educated person never likes and does not enslave anyone. Day by day people are becoming more educated and less dependent on government and banks. In the modern world there are many trusted workplaces for earning. For example we can put the script Almost many people in the world have put their trust on the script.
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January 09, 2024, 05:34:56 PM
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We should not be surprised that very soon the government would start controlling every aspects of cryptocurrency.
The government may succeed in controlling other cryptocurrencies but as for bitcoin it won't be possible  for them,  the government before now have tried to short down bitcoin or to control it but didn't work out for them.  The government will not have any option  to accept  Bitcoin when they understand bitcoin is beyond  control for anyone to to destroy it.  Some countries that used to be big enemy of bitcoin are accepting bitcoin,  this is what happens when they  can't control bitcoin.

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January 09, 2024, 06:14:20 PM
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We should not be surprised that very soon the government would start controlling every aspects of cryptocurrency.
The government may succeed in controlling other cryptocurrencies but as for bitcoin it won't be possible  for them,  the government before now have tried to short down bitcoin or to control it but didn't work out for them.  The government will not have any option  to accept  Bitcoin when they understand bitcoin is beyond  control for anyone to to destroy it.  Some countries that used to be big enemy of bitcoin are accepting bitcoin,  this is what happens when they  can't control bitcoin.

Governments don't need to control the assets themselves, they will (and often do already) control all the points of entry and exit.

Personally I think cryptos (and all digital assets) are going to be regulated just like stock shares if they aren't already. That won't effect your ability to buy or sell it, or transact with it. It will, however, effect your ability to conduct crime with it, or to evade taxes with it. The US clamped down on physical cash starting in the 1970s, and they will do the same thing for digital stuff.




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January 12, 2024, 07:19:24 PM
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It is normal for people to speak out against injustice.  People do not tolerate injustice for long. Many of their money has disappeared from the bank.  It is very bad.  It is not safe to keep money with yourself, nor is it safe to keep it in the bank.  People have learned to be independent now. They invest money in crypto and business.  Investing in BTC is more profitable and reliable.

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January 15, 2024, 05:58:57 PM
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We are also thinking about this that nowadays people have become very smart and they try hard to save their money. The fee is also very low, sometimes it is not charged at all in the transfer, and what is more, it is a unique method, that is, no one knows how much money you have. In addition, there are other countries, i.e. foreign exchangers from one country to another country, they have a lot of benefits, besides this is a very great method, your money is safe and it arrives very quickly.

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January 16, 2024, 12:49:33 AM
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It is normal for people to speak out against injustice.  People do not tolerate injustice for long. Many of their money has disappeared from the bank.  It is very bad.  It is not safe to keep money with yourself, nor is it safe to keep it in the bank.  People have learned to be independent now. They invest money in crypto and business.  Investing in BTC is more profitable and reliable.

While I agree that having some satoshis is always good if one can afford them, I also need to point out that this market and this kind of investment is not for everyone, I have met people who are fully into cryptocurrencies because they like the idea of using stablecoins to conduct their transactions, it is specially common to see so in countries with high inflation rates.
One cannot expect someone to get most of their capital into Bitcoin if they are not accustomed to see much volatility or are not informed enough on how to keep their money away from the hands of scammers.
You would be surprised on how easily some people can fall for the easiest and more obvious scams out there and lose thousands of dollars.

Instead of going around advicing anyone and everyone to get into Bitcoin with their money, I would first direct them to this forum, so they can learn what all this is about and set their expectations on what they can earn. Those who have very big expectations and some money to invests are the perfect potential victims for scammers to hunt... There is no rush, we all were newbies and there is always chance to slowly DCA in BTC.

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January 17, 2024, 05:07:40 PM
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Yes people wake up now and that's why people Will stop obey goverment and Banks but Will go full in crypto.
Full stablecoins and crypto no taxes no slavery only freedom now
Putting your faith into stablecoins you are putting your faith in governments and banks. Stablecoins aren't "full crypto" by any means. They are highly centralized with backing of that very currency you wanted to avod.

And good luck with your tax avoidance, that can bite you hard in the future when you need to pay them back with interest or go to jail. I am not sure where you live, but if you don't like taxes, i am guessing you have those and you live in a country that's under ever growing tighter regulations. So just hope that country you are hiding your income from has nice jails.

Also when it comes to freedom, you can have financial freedom by having enough capital to pay your taxes and live with it. Now paying taxes you'll end up literally losing your physcal freedom.

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We should not be surprised that very soon the government would start controlling every aspects of cryptocurrency.
The government may succeed in controlling other cryptocurrencies but as for bitcoin it won't be possible  for them,  the government before now have tried to short down bitcoin or to control it but didn't work out for them.  The government will not have any option  to accept  Bitcoin when they understand bitcoin is beyond  control for anyone to to destroy it.  Some countries that used to be big enemy of bitcoin are accepting bitcoin,  this is what happens when they  can't control bitcoin.

Governments don't need to control the assets themselves, they will (and often do already) control all the points of entry and exit.

Personally I think cryptos (and all digital assets) are going to be regulated just like stock shares if they aren't already. That won't effect your ability to buy or sell it, or transact with it. It will, however, effect your ability to conduct crime with it, or to evade taxes with it. The US clamped down on physical cash starting in the 1970s, and they will do the same thing for digital stuff.
The government may try to block the access of buying and selling crypto but it may not work for them completely because this is not the first time that the government have been trying frustrate people from using cryptocurrency but still people still try their best to use cryptocurrency even with all restrictions from the government.  Their is nothing the government will do that will totally shutdown and make people from using cryptocurrency.

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Yes people wake up now and that's why people Will stop obey goverment and Banks but Will go full in crypto.
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Your idea sounds funny and using stable coin as an example still sounds funny, what makes you think people can just go about disobeying their government or your society doesn't obey the rules and guide set for the citizens, I believe you've heard of hero's who took great step to fight against bad government and slavery some died during the process and it was not easy, firstly if you want to fight against your country government you much be influential and you need money to do that, that's why you see a lot of people with same mindset to fight backing off. If I may ask you want to fight because you need financial freedom and the fear of paying taxes, very funny and it's impossible cause every new method you bring the government will always find a way to condition citizens and tax payment must be made with fiat, what do you think about government bodies, they have the power to control the economy and country so I don't think you can fight.

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The government may try to block the access of buying and selling crypto but it may not work for them completely because this is not the first time that the government have been trying frustrate people from using cryptocurrency but still people still try their best to use cryptocurrency even with all restrictions from the government.  Their is nothing the government will do that will totally shutdown and make people from using cryptocurrency.

The US government doesn't care what you do until you convert your asset into US dollars. This is true for stocks as well: you aren't taxed until you sell.

And while I can't speak for other governments across the world, the US government has done absolutely nothing to restrict trading in Bitcoin or other cryptos (unless you call going after fraudsters "restricting" it, but a safe environment actually encourages trading).

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Yes people wake up now and that's why people Will stop obey goverment and Banks but Will go full in crypto.
Full stablecoins and crypto no taxes no slavery only freedom now
You make crypto sound as an anti government crusade, which is not what cryptocurrency is all about, why are we so much concerned with irrelevant thing about crypto such as it alternative currency rule, and also banking the unabanked role, and deviate from compering or trying to make crypto looks as if it a replacement of the traditional financial system.

Let learn to know the importance of both sectors in our financial dealings, such as the importance of the traditional currency system such as banks and banks notes and also the importance of cryptocurrency and how both act to better our overall financial experience.



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January 20, 2024, 07:53:03 PM
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Yes people wake up now and that's why people Will stop obey goverment and Banks but Will go full in crypto.
Full stablecoins and crypto no taxes no slavery only freedom now
Kindly take a look again at what you have written so that you would be able to think yourself what's wrong with it.
For the major of liking the Crypto sphere does not mean that banks are useless. Even though cryptocurrencies finally dominate the world, that does not mean that the fiat banks are not going to be in existence. You need to understand that every countries have there own currency and no one would want to acquire Bitcoin as there country because it's not going to help things get better.









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There is no different between stable coins and and fiat bank. They are just like the same people, functions and doings. Yes we all know that they will be and revolution in the world economy one day and even at that it is bitcoin that people e use and not Stablecoins. Instead of using stable coins it is better I used fiat currencies. Please don't dream to use Stablecoins.

But you also have to know that cryptocurrency was created nto support the fiat currency and not to fight against or rebels against the government. In my own opinion government can shutdown cryptocurrency if they want to. Anyone found with cryptocurrency activities would be arrested and jail. Then people would be afraid to use bitcoin.

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There is no different between stable coins and and fiat bank. They are just like the same people, functions and doings. Yes we all know that they will be and revolution in the world economy one day and even at that it is bitcoin that people e use and not Stablecoins. Instead of using stable coins it is better I used fiat currencies. Please don't dream to use Stablecoins.

But you also have to know that cryptocurrency was created nto support the fiat currency and not to fight against or rebels against the government. In my own opinion government can shutdown cryptocurrency if they want to. Anyone found with cryptocurrency activities would be arrested and jail. Then people would be afraid to use bitcoin.

There's no difference between stablecoins and Bitcoin either. Both are just investments.

And "the government" isn't going to come "shut down" Bitcoin. Why would they? After 10+ years Bitcoin still isn't used as a currency--not that "the government" would have a reason to care even if it were.


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Yes people wake up now and that's why people Will stop obey goverment and Banks but Will go full in crypto.
Full stablecoins and crypto no taxes no slavery only freedom now

We fully understand that most governments of the world are not fully in support of Bitcoin and its mode of operation. We also understand that governments would want to ban Bitcoin outrightly if they can. But saying people will stop obeying the government is an act of rebellion which is not healthy for any government to grow with.

Paying of tax is one civic duty every citizen owes her government. And we know money generated from tax forms a major source of government revenue which is in turn used to see to the  general welfare of the citizens. Paying of tax should not be seen as a burden, rather it should be a selfless duty to the government of your country.  If we begin to hide under Bitcoin to avoid paying tax, we will only be proving the government right. We Bitcoin owners are not at war with the government,  all we need is a balance and a conducive environment to carry out Bitcoin transactions without fear.

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