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January 04, 2024, 07:34:27 AM
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I follow the carnivore diet for years now. It basically involves eating only meat and animal products for various health reasons from weight loss, reducing inflammation, longevity, etc etc. While this post is not too much of a dietary advert, I stumbled upon an interesting Vice article which claims the way I'm eating is very much related to bitcoin  Grin

https://www.vice.com/en/article/ne74nw/inside-the-world-of-the-bitcoin-carnivores

WTF - I thought.

The term "bitcoin carnivore", possibly coined by Ammous, the author of the best-selling book The Bitcoin Standard, also promoted by Goldstein from the Nakamoto Institute and various bitcoin maxis, in fact exists. Allegedly, there's an only-meat organized dinner every BTC conference in Miami. Well, I didn't know.

So the puzzles I didn't know even exist suddenly click together.

I'm now a cultist, a rebel against both the fiat system and the food system.

Welcome me as the newest member of Bitcoin Carnivores Cool
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January 04, 2024, 07:53:41 AM
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Good for you but I think that part where they are a meat only dinner is probably just tech bros being hip and cool as much as they can amongst their peers, you know to buff up their masculinity. This is probably just something that they've thought so they can be more cooler I think. I don't know if this is something that's really rebelling against the current status quo of our society because it's just food, I don't think it's going to be a big support to what bitcoin's already been doing.
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January 04, 2024, 08:10:54 AM
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Good for you but I think that part where they are a meat only dinner is probably just tech bros being hip and cool as much as they can amongst their peers, you know to buff up their masculinity. This is probably just something that they've thought so they can be more cooler I think. I don't know if this is something that's really rebelling against the current status quo of our society because it's just food, I don't think it's going to be a big support to what bitcoin's already been doing.

While op’s reason for eating meat only is for health reasons as such that he needs to lose weight, people who promote both bitcoin and carnivorous diet just seems to promote it for the sake of rebellion and taking assertions as a man

I read the article and to be honest it is quite ridiculous that they are comparing a whole balanced diet to central banks their claim is that both are false and should not be believed in

Well it is their lives so at the end of the day i am no one but a spectator

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January 04, 2024, 08:39:32 AM
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If only eating meat makes you healthy, then a varied health system that includes low carbohydrates and exercise will make your body more resistant to disease and sustainable, instead of a healthy diet that may make you sick after several years.
Blindly biasing towards Bitcoin without thinking makes it a sect rather than a technology that can offer something new, and when something becomes like a sect or a cult, it is sacred and making changes to the system is more difficult, and it is something that will destroy Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is a technology that needs updating, and it is not perfect, but continuous updating makes it valuable.

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January 04, 2024, 08:53:48 AM
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If only eating meat makes you healthy, then a varied health system that includes low carbohydrates and exercise will make your body more resistant to disease and sustainable, instead of a healthy diet that may make you sick after several years.

Or quite the opposite. Many are allergic to certain substances in vegetables without knowing, this is the ultimate elimination diet. Moreover, with lots of attention even the micronutrients can be completely fine on the carnivore - so basically no point of needing greens if you know what's inside which food. Replying also to a previous comment I'm not choosing this because of "being cool", it's obviously one of the hardest diets to follow, and you basically can't eat out with friends etc. I managed to improve serious health conditions. I go to doctor way less frequently now, and when I do my bloodwork I always tell them to not get shocked by the cholesterol etc. The normal ranges are for SAD (the standard American diet) and they make no sense without context. Many dont know unfortunately.

I always double-check the authenticity of the information (even proofread the medical studies), because everything and its opposite is already out there. And many dietary facts (what the general public knows about cholesterol and diseases, saturated fats, vegetable oils, etc) are already debunked, yet engraved into the public minds. We've come to the point where you can't really even trust the studies, because of incorrect methodologies (questionnaires) or p-hacking. And referring to incorrect studies makes an avalanche.

In this regard, - dont trust, verify -, I think there actually might be some connection.
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January 04, 2024, 09:03:12 AM
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But do you meet the criteria to be part of the cult?

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Use only Bitcoin, eat only meat

I doubt that you meet the first one.

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January 04, 2024, 09:04:09 AM
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While op’s reason for eating meat only is for health reasons as such that he needs to lose weight, people who promote both bitcoin and carnivorous diet just seems to promote it for the sake of rebellion and taking assertions as a man
Obviously that's what you're going to get when you read the article but I don't really see the point of that and the message that they're trying to throw across the room don't seem to be hitting where it needs to hit, it kind of cringes me a little bit that there's people like these in the community that I'm proud of, kind of throwing all of the stuff that they want to because they think it somehow makes sense which if you look at an outsider perspective, is kind of weird.
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I read the article and to be honest it is quite ridiculous that they are comparing a whole balanced diet to central banks their claim is that both are false and should not be believed in

Well it is their lives so at the end of the day i am no one but a spectator
That's what I've thought too, it definitely is ridiculous but as you've said already, it's their lives and they can do what they want to do. Well now that balanced diet I think isn't somewhat true, there's a lot of scientists/nutritionists out there that's going to be outraged by that statement because there's a science behind those balance diet system and it would be weird of us to disregard scientists trying to tell us something. Yes, we are spectators but that don't mean that we can't give our opinion or judgment to what they're doing.
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January 04, 2024, 09:14:51 AM
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But do you meet the criteria to be part of the cult?

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I doubt that you meet the first one.

You're goddamn right - unfortunately. I try to, but it's nearly impossible in my country.
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January 04, 2024, 09:22:39 AM
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Bitcoin cult? It's like I don't want to listen to him; it's not good to listen to him. It seems like we're deifying Bitcoin, which it's not, right? Bitcoin only becomes an instrument for us to get out of the hardships of life.

And of course, it depends on how we make our way here in the crypto space. But even so, it is not good to eat only meat as much as possible; it is better to always eat vegetables for us to remain healthy.



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January 04, 2024, 02:03:01 PM
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Who would've thought that there are people whove been on the carnivore diet for ages and thought of this. Haha i find this very intriguing. Apparently, there's a whole community blending meat-heavy diets with Bitcoin vibes. The term "bitcoin carnivore" caught me off guard and it turns out there's even an only-meat dinner at BTC conferences. So, here I am, unknowingly stumbling into a world where what people connects with rebellion against the fiat system haha So many things new to me

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January 04, 2024, 03:04:06 PM
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I'm now a cultist, a rebel against both the fiat system and the food system.

Do you think that people who invest in Bitcoin are some kind of rebels against fiat? Most of these people have never paid anything with Bitcoin, all their transactions go in the direction of FIAT -> CEX (cryptocurrency) -> FIAT = PROFIT.

I have to disappoint you that there have never been and never will be any cults when it comes to Bitcoin, unless you want to create one and attract a few weirdos to it Wink

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January 04, 2024, 03:31:07 PM
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lol never a good sign when you think its a good thing that you're part of a cult. I've heard of the bitcoin carnivore thing before. Definitely the epitome of toxic wannabe "alpha" bros. Probably not a group you want to associate, even though you happen to be into both those things, unless you're also a toxic wannabe alpha bro, then you've found your crew haha but that's for you to decide.
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January 04, 2024, 06:31:55 PM
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Bitcoin cult? It's like I don't want to listen to him; it's not good to listen to him. It seems like we're deifying Bitcoin, which it's not, right? Bitcoin only becomes an instrument for us to get out of the hardships of life.

And of course, it depends on how we make our way here in the crypto space. But even so, it is not good to eat only meat as much as possible; it is better to always eat vegetables for us to remain healthy.
I wonder why op thinks bitcoin is a cult, bitcoin is just free as air.  People will make their decisions if to invest in bitcoin or to stop invest in bitcoin.  In every cult their are consequences if you choose not to belong as member but in bitcoin you make decisions to invest in bitcoin because you understand the benefit and value bitcoin has and you can still decide not to invest in bitcoin. Bitcoin is just too good that everyone needs it's financial support.

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January 04, 2024, 06:56:17 PM
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It is odd that they make this connection but not entirely crazy. Maybe it’s something about being a carnivore that gives you an attack mentality and Bitcoin is an attack on the existing financial system. I certainly was a carnivore for decades before Bitcoin was created, so I think being a Bitcoiner has more to do with being a carnivore than a carnivore has to do with being a Bitcoiner.

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OP doesn't think bitcoin is a cult.
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The implication of "fiat" is that modern money and modern foods are both artificial, and Bitcoin carnivorism supposedly solves this problem.
And how does he think animals he eat are fed nowadays? This foolish man is eating artificial meat from animals as well, since they are fatten up by artificial rations.

This is just another useless group composed by individuals who probably don't have anything better to do in life, so they start elaborating senseless theories of a glorious past (which in fact has never existed) where life was better, and that we should introduce the same old habits in our current reality.

It's so cringe like the politically correct vegan cult. they are two sides of the same coin. What we should have in mind is that balance is they key for a healthy and fruitful life: meat is good, vegetables are good, so we should link the benefits of both in our nutrition. Besides healthy, it's also going to be tasty and satisfactory. Regards finances, the same can be applied. Who does live only making use of Bitcoin? That is impossible! Maybe those cultist jerks do, but they are a minority living inside a wealthy bubble. It doesn't apply to the majority of us.

So, take advantage of Bitcoin, but also of fiat currency. You aren't in this world to serve money, so make money serve you accordingly to your needs!

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January 04, 2024, 07:24:41 PM
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And how does he think animals he eat are fed nowadays? This foolish man is eating artificial meat from animals as well, since they are fatten up by artificial rations.
There's always option for grass-fed.

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This is just another useless group composed by individuals who probably don't have anything better to do in life, so they start elaborating senseless theories of a glorious past (which in fact has never existed) where life was better, and that we should introduce the same old habits in our current reality.
Most carnivores do the diet for purely health reasons.

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It's so cringe like the politically correct vegan cult.
I don't try to convert anyone. Everyone eats whatever they want. This one works for me and I'm happy to continue.
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And how does he think animals he eat are fed nowadays? This foolish man is eating artificial meat from animals as well, since they are fatten up by artificial rations.
There's always option for grass-fed.
Even the grass isn't the same nowadays. It's different than it used to be in the times of our grandfathers and before. Moreover, hardly ever you will fatten cattle, chicken and pigs without rations, especially when breeding in large scale... Transgenic technology came to feed the massive growing population of the world. You can't expect to release some animals on the pasture and come back one year later to slaughter it in order to feed 7.888 billion people...

You can follow any cults and unrealistic concepts of life you wish, but you can't deny reality. If we only needed meat to survive, there wouldn't be a plethora of another categories of food available and disponible for us to ingest. We don't need only proteins (which meat is abundant in), but also carbohydrates, vitamins, minerals, lipids. Each kind of food is rich in one of those nutrients, so why not taking advantage of all of them? For fad reasons? To look cool, eccentric, different from everyone else? Or to feel part of a group of idiots who don't even know who you are?

It's up to you do decide what to eat, how to live, and so on... However you should know the consequences of your actions and what your organism demands for proper functioning.

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It is about conviction, "not driving," to accepting bitcoin, there are certain people who need "cults" to add to the idea of ​​​​bitcoin but it is not really necessary, therefore welcome Vegans, vegetarians and anyone who breathes.

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uneng @07:07:00 PM
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This is just another useless group composed by individuals who probably don't have anything better to do in life, so they start elaborating senseless theories of a glorious past

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Even the grass isn't the same nowadays. It's different than it used to be in the times of our grandfathers and before.

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