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January 05, 2024, 07:29:36 AM
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Last December I wanted to carry out a Bitcoin transaction but the fee was too high I have to temporarily suspend the bit coin transactions with the mindset they I will do it sometimes this year when the price has reduced and is down, going my this your post I'm going to recheck again and see if I can now deliver my transaction with a fair fee.  Most persons I'm sure did stopped Bitcoin transactions due to the surge in the fee price but it's good to know it's now down .

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January 05, 2024, 07:30:55 AM
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greetings to all friends, last December was a pretty bad month for all bitcoin users and also those who actively transact with bitcoin because bitcoin fees were really suffocating, even the highest fee i saw reached $20, this caused a lot of topics to be discussed. discussing this phenomenon, a few minutes ago i accessed the mempool and found that the bitcoin fees listed there were very cheap when compared to last December 2023,


from this it can be concluded that changing bitcoin fees should not be an obstacle to bitcoin adoption.  For those who transact Bitcoin with small amounts, it's a good idea to pay attention to the time because you will definitely find the best time to process your Bitcoin transactions.


It's good to know that the fee is going down!
The effect of the high fee was terrible and it's good to know that those running and looking for an alternative can now have peace of mind knowing that the fee is gradually going back to normal.

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January 05, 2024, 07:47:39 AM
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It's very good to see the high transaction fees go this low, the Brc-20 was a very negative effect on the Bitcoin blockchain that it lead to the use of alts for transactions.
Personally, I never had to complain even when the price was high because I never had Bitcoin to transact so I didn't complain. Maybe from now I could purchase a little for myself as the transaction fee is relatively low.

I just hope it doesn't jump back to a high price again!

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January 05, 2024, 09:44:36 AM
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I just hope it doesn't jump back to a high price again!
Nah I want the fees back to high price again, if the fees is cheap, that means bull season won't happen.

So choose this, will you want Bitcoin price hit $100K and more but the fees is expensive or the price is not going nowhere but the fees is cheap?

The good thing of cheap fees is we can take this moment to consolidate inputs, so if the fees jump high, at least it won't really hurt you.

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January 05, 2024, 09:51:28 AM
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greetings to all friends, last December was a pretty bad month for all bitcoin users and also those who actively transact with bitcoin because bitcoin fees were really suffocating, even the highest fee i saw reached $20, this caused a lot of topics to be discussed. discussing this phenomenon, a few minutes ago i accessed the mempool and found that the bitcoin fees listed there were very cheap when compared to last December 2023,


from this it can be concluded that changing bitcoin fees should not be an obstacle to bitcoin adoption.  For those who transact Bitcoin with small amounts, it's a good idea to pay attention to the time because you will definitely find the best time to process your Bitcoin transactions.


What I do is to always check the mempool immediately am about to initiate and send a transaction, this will give me the accurate and most recent fee that am going to get, there's another logic here, using the lowest priority is sometimes better than using the purging features when you place it on static, the fee you will be charged under low priority is lesser compared to when you're having your purging gee to be anything above 20 sat/vbyte, so we have to be logical when doing anything in other not to pay more when we intended to pay less.
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January 05, 2024, 09:54:21 AM
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Last December I wanted to carry out a Bitcoin transaction but the fee was too high I have to temporarily suspend the bit coin transactions with the mindset they I will do it sometimes this year when the price has reduced and is down, going my this your post I'm going to recheck again and see if I can now deliver my transaction with a fair fee.  Most persons I'm sure did stopped Bitcoin transactions due to the surge in the fee price but it's good to know it's now down .

     -   At the moment, it seems that the wave is calm again when it comes to the bitcoin fee amount in the bitcoin network where we will make withdrawal transactions. But we still need to monitor the mempool space so we can see or monitor if the fee has not gone up again or if it has continued to decrease again.

It's really different when there is no crisis in the bitcoin network, only the ordinals and inscriptions become a problem why there is an increase in the fee in the bitcoin network where there are more and more people who are annoyed by the behavior of the miners when it comes to the transaction charges demanded them.

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January 05, 2024, 10:14:22 AM
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from this it can be concluded that changing bitcoin fees should not be an obstacle to bitcoin adoption.  For those who transact Bitcoin with small amounts, it's a good idea to pay attention to the time because you will definitely find the best time to process your Bitcoin transactions.
The high bitcoin fee can't be an obstacle to bitcoin,  their are several time in the past that we had challenge like this but it didn't cause anything bad for bitcoin.  I don't think this very one will cause anything to the adoption of bitcoin. If you compare the recent transaction fee to that of some weeks ago you will see the fee is reducing, we should be expecting in a few time.  The fee will definitely come back to normal,  at this point let's just concentrate to hodl for the bull market.
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January 05, 2024, 02:46:00 PM
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Last December I wanted to carry out a Bitcoin transaction but the fee was too high I have to temporarily suspend the bit coin transactions with the mindset they I will do it sometimes this year when the price has reduced and is down, going my this your post I'm going to recheck again and see if I can now deliver my transaction with a fair fee.  Most persons I'm sure did stopped Bitcoin transactions due to the surge in the fee price but it's good to know it's now down .

sometimes we need to pause a little bit inorder to prevent such things happen. Also this is what I did once the transaction fee are too high then I will take pause and wait for the fee going to reduce cause if I am going to transfer my btc with the higher fee then the it's too bad for me. So it's better to take a pause and wait for the down fee. Anyways nowadays the transaction fee was friendly after being high it will reduce for a couple of hour's.

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from this it can be concluded that changing bitcoin fees should not be an obstacle to bitcoin adoption.  For those who transact Bitcoin with small amounts, it's a good idea to pay attention to the time because you will definitely find the best time to process your Bitcoin transactions.
I agree with you, Op. It is true that expensive transaction fees should not be a barrier to investing in bitcoin. Because bitcoin transaction costs will definitely fall again and will not always be expensive. So when Bitcoin transaction fees are expensive, all it takes is waiting for the right momentum. The point is to be patient first, while collecting the money that will be invested in bitcoin. So when Bitcoin transaction fees are cheap again, then invest all the money have accumulated and the problem is solved. So if someone really intends to continue investing in bitcoin, it goes without saying that the transaction fees are expensive. Because you just have to wait, the transaction fees will be cheaper again.
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Currently, the issue of Bitcoin fees is hindering the adoption of Bitcoin for everyone. Bitcoin fees are always volatile, just like the crypto market. Because of which many small traders are unable to transact with Bitcoin. Moreover, the transaction time of Bitcoin is also not fixed.

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OP, you cannot cover the "sun with a finger", says a phrase when faced with a real problem, and the fees are paid according to what corresponds when you have to make a transaction, and in fact, as I commented in another post, compared to a regular fees from any bank (swift-SEPA) remain viable, however, adoption is not 100% related to the payment of a fee. Consequently, you have to pay the corresponding fee as long as Ordinals or whatever is external to the network "sabotages" the fee.

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January 05, 2024, 09:47:06 PM
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from this it can be concluded that changing bitcoin fees should not be an obstacle to bitcoin adoption.  For those who transact Bitcoin with small amounts, it's a good idea to pay attention to the time because you will definitely find the best time to process your Bitcoin transactions.

The fees isn't an obstacle for Bitcoin adoption, irrespective of what the fees are Bitcoin will still have adopters. Remember it was the volatility that was the concern that doubters were pointing to that it'll discouraged the adoption of Bitcoin and when they saw that the adoption of Bitcoin wasn't slowing down, they have turned to the fees as the challenge that Bitcoin will have but that won't be an issue.

The fees weren't this bad untill the ordinals hype came around, but they won't last forever as the hype will die soon and the fees will return to normal. It's quite a good thing the ordinals hype came during this time as it shows how the network will be congested when bitcoin starts getting used more, if something isn't been done about the block size as the high fees will return.

We can't be living in denial that something shouldn't be done. A solution that won't make us go against the decentralization of Bitcoin and the network has to be proposed and accepted to keep things going. Segwit is trying but that's not the permanent solutions, the the poor adoption of the solution should send the signal that more is needed to be accepted by the community.

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greetings to all friends, last December was a pretty bad month for all bitcoin users and also those who actively transact with bitcoin because bitcoin fees were really suffocating, even the highest fee i saw reached $20, this caused a lot of topics to be discussed. discussing this phenomenon, a few minutes ago i accessed the mempool and found that the bitcoin fees listed there were very cheap when compared to last December 2023,
To be honest, not only last December but until now the fees for Bitcoin transfers are also very high. In fact, it seems like it has jumped more than 5 times from before the fees increased so drastically. Basically, now when planning to transfer Bitcoin to another website, I've thought about it several times because the amount I have to pay is many times over... I thought it would just happen during the long holiday yesterday and it will be back to normal now. However, it turned out to be wrong, because up to this time it was still classified as very high for the fee.

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Bitcoin transaction fees are not always this high and it's just an occasional occurrence that should never be an obstacle to long-term Bitcoin adoption. The majority of people who adopt Bitcoin use it for investment purposes and they buy and hold Bitcoins directly from exchanges. All they need to do is pay a one-time fee to send their assets from the exchange to their non-custodial wallets if they are using centralized exchanges and some would simply keep their assets within the exchanges.

So, these transaction fees are never a problem for the volatility of Bitcoin or are a hurdle in the way of global adoption. Nothing can stop Bitcoin from getting spread over time, no matter what happens, more people will get into Bitcoin and adopt it when they learn about it whether it's price is high or the transaction fees are high.

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January 06, 2024, 01:47:49 PM
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For those who regularly trade Bitcoin, the sudden increase in transaction fees is irritating. I have seen many people refrain from doing bitcoin transactions when mempool congestion was rampant. Compared to last December, it has started to decrease again, but not much. But hopefully it will become normal again. Since the market has ordinal effects, we must understand that congestion is common. But with time or patience everything can be fixed. There may be little problem here only for small transactions. But if it is accepted as normal for some time then I think the transaction fee can come down to bearable level.
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I think it is not the right time to have small transactions as well as trade with Bitcoin with its current average transaction fee. I was planning to sell some Bitcoin and cash out last December for the upcoming holidays and new year, but seems like everyone has the same idea that causes the fee to skyrocket, I have read that the ordinals hype caused this fee. I really expect that the fee will decrease by the next month maybe give if a few weeks it will reach $10 below. Just hold your holdings and be patient they will decrease soon.

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Bitcoin transaction fees are not always this high and it's just an occasional occurrence that should never be an obstacle to long-term Bitcoin adoption. The majority of people who adopt Bitcoin use it for investment purposes and they buy and hold Bitcoins directly from exchanges. All they need to do is pay a one-time fee to send their assets from the exchange to their non-custodial wallets if they are using centralized exchanges and some would simply keep their assets within the exchanges.

So, these transaction fees are never a problem for the volatility of Bitcoin or are a hurdle in the way of global adoption. Nothing can stop Bitcoin from getting spread over time, no matter what happens, more people will get into Bitcoin and adopt it when they learn about it whether it's price is high or the transaction fees are high.
But I also don’t remember fees on the Bitcoin network increasing for such a long time before, so the current situation is a little different from previous cases. This will not significantly affect those who hold Bitcoin, but it will have a significant impact on those who use Bitcoin much more often for their needs.
Volatility is what attracts people to cryptocurrency, for them it is an opportunity to earn quick money. Nobody wants to buy some conservative asset and wait 10 years to make a profit, because it's boring, everyone wants quick money, and volatility can help achieve their goals.

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January 06, 2024, 03:19:44 PM
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Bitcoin transaction fees are not always this high and it's just an occasional occurrence that should never be an obstacle to long-term Bitcoin adoption. The majority of people who adopt Bitcoin use it for investment purposes and they buy and hold Bitcoins directly from exchanges. All they need to do is pay a one-time fee to send their assets from the exchange to their non-custodial wallets if they are using centralized exchanges and some would simply keep their assets within the exchanges.

So, these transaction fees are never a problem for the volatility of Bitcoin or are a hurdle in the way of global adoption. Nothing can stop Bitcoin from getting spread over time, no matter what happens, more people will get into Bitcoin and adopt it when they learn about it whether it's price is high or the transaction fees are high.
But I also don’t remember fees on the Bitcoin network increasing for such a long time before, so the current situation is a little different from previous cases. This will not significantly affect those who hold Bitcoin, but it will have a significant impact on those who use Bitcoin much more often for their needs.
Volatility is what attracts people to cryptocurrency, for them it is an opportunity to earn quick money. Nobody wants to buy some conservative asset and wait 10 years to make a profit, because it's boring, everyone wants quick money, and volatility can help achieve their goals.
If we do try out to compare on how many times that Bitcoin network did have such such clogged in the network in the past and as of todays? We can really say that it is really that more often because of that
ordinals on which it do continually spamming out the network which it did really affect into those people who do really make out active transactions in between their Bitcoin transactions on which it do really sucks
because fees are really that too high on which its never been worth for you to make some micro transactions due to that high fees on which not everyone would really be that willing on paying that.
This is why it would really be that best that you should really know on to seek for alternatives on which you could really be able to save up via with those cheap altcoins
that we do have on the market today.

If not then you can simply just sit and wait up for the things to go down but not all would really be having that patience because the waiting game is really just that too long
where pending transactions way too slow to confirm because of those spams.

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January 06, 2024, 03:34:39 PM
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This is still way too expensive. When I tried to move my sig camp earnings (8 inputs), at 30 sats/b it asks 0.0001563 btc fee from me and according to preev that's $6.85. Almost 7 bucks to move ~$360. That's 2%. If is probably fine if you can't use legacy banking or altcoins and btc is your only option... but for those who have other options, btc is the worst and most expensive choice now. I think I will wait a bit more to consolidate my inputs into one. I just don't want to pay more than 10 sats/b for any transaction. I don't care how long it'll take for a confirmation. 10 sats/b is my limit for a btc transaction and it is still expensive when you think about it. There are other reliable alts that do the same job for a lot less. Maybe it is time to increase the bottle neck a little bit. Or just get rid of the "feature" which is causing the spam.

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January 06, 2024, 03:56:37 PM
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from this it can be concluded that changing bitcoin fees should not be an obstacle to bitcoin adoption.
It really doesn't make sense to adopt bitcoin when its transaction fees are higher than other alternatives - at least to me. Of course I'm not talking about other users - bitcoin is an option for anyone regardless of transaction fees.

Easy transactions and low transaction costs are some of the advantages of bitcoin compared to other currencies - so when transaction costs are very expensive [beyond reasonable limits] then adoption barriers can certainly occur. I'm not sure how many users are willing to pay hundreds of dollars in fees to send bitcoin as a means of payment when they want to pay for something - this is a hard thing to accept without considering it a problem.
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