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January 06, 2024, 11:02:39 AM
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I think that the fun starts when we don't know about the clarity of it and there's equal opportunity for every bettor who would like to bet on this event. Whether it's going to be approved or not, as long as you are happy with the results and most especially if you've won the bet then that's for sure the win that you're waiting for. So, it's all fair for everyone who's going to bet on the outcome of the decision as per SEC.
Yes, it is like that, but we have seen what has happened so far, where the SEC continues to delay it, so many of us are pessimistic that this month, the SEC will immediately approve it. And if this is the month we've been waiting for when the SEC finally approves the ETF, it could boost bitcoin to even higher prices. Indeed, when we place a bet and wait for the result, whether it is approved or still pending, and we can be the winner, it will give us joy because we managed to become the winner. Yes, you can try to bet on this event, and who knows, you could be the winner.
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January 06, 2024, 01:55:55 PM
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I'm not interested in betting on a Bitcoin ETF because we've already seen several delays and there's no clarity on when the SEC will approve or reject it. But looking at the development of bitcoin to date and in the future, the SEC should approve it, but I don't know because this still concerns the interests of many parties who still want to reject bitcoin. But if you want to have fun placing bets, you can join in with other gamblers because $1.5 million in bets is a lot of money. They can still be patient with the announcement later, so perhaps this will be even more interesting, whatever the outcome. The important thing is to prepare sufficient funds if you are interested in placing a bet.
That's true; the whole ETF approval matter has been delayed several times already. I'm not too fond of betting on something that has been postponed several times already. I have mixed feelings about the ETF approval. On the one hand, I'm positive that Bitcoin will be approved, while on the other, it's constantly being postponed. Why hasn't it been approved or even denied at this point? Why are the results delayed by that much?

In the end, in my opinion, it's going to be approved anytime in the future; however, I wouldn't bet on it; the 50/50 chance doesn't look too appealing to me. Despite what happens, even in the scenario where it's not approved, Bitcoin will do just fine without it, as it did for all these years.

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January 06, 2024, 03:08:12 PM
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I think that the fun starts when we don't know about the clarity of it and there's equal opportunity for every bettor who would like to bet on this event. Whether it's going to be approved or not, as long as you are happy with the results and most especially if you've won the bet then that's for sure the win that you're waiting for. So, it's all fair for everyone who's going to bet on the outcome of the decision as per SEC.
Yes, it is like that, but we have seen what has happened so far, where the SEC continues to delay it, so many of us are pessimistic that this month, the SEC will immediately approve it. And if this is the month we've been waiting for when the SEC finally approves the ETF, it could boost bitcoin to even higher prices. Indeed, when we place a bet and wait for the result, whether it is approved or still pending, and we can be the winner, it will give us joy because we managed to become the winner. Yes, you can try to bet on this event, and who knows, you could be the winner.
Most of the votes in the betting are yes the SEC approves the ETF, but you are right that no one knows when this decision will actually come, whether the approval of the Bitcoin ETF application comes this month or when.
It just that many people, including investors, are waiting and they hope the SEC will approve it in the near future.
But betting on something like this will be much more difficult than other bets such as sports betting, I personally don't have the desire or decision to be able to take part in betting and I would much prefer to use the money I have to bet on sports because the opportunities are more visible and the results will be exactly as scheduled.
But for those who bet on options like this, it doesn't matter because this is quite important and of course the approval of the Bitcoin ETF application could have very positive impact on the future development of Bitcoin.

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January 06, 2024, 03:18:38 PM
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If commercial online gambling casinos like Stake, Rollbit and the rest will implement events like and allow us to bet on them, why not? I would gladly bet put a bet through, and I did be betting on a yes, and this is because, from the data available online, it's imminent that the US security and exchange commission are going to approve the bitcoin spot ETF, the only challenge is that, we don't know when for sure, though speculators are speculating that the approval will come through on or before the 10th of this month being by next week Wednesday, this is just speculation.

And personally, I think this type of bet will be very easy to win, but where it will become challenging is if the casino require gamblers to bet on the specific day and (possibly) time the ETF will be approved, this is the area I think alot of gamblers will lose  Grin.

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January 06, 2024, 08:10:00 PM
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What is the odd for yes or no? That is what some gamblers would want to know. I do not know the odd and I may not gamble with it. It is the odd that will encourage or discourage some gamblers.
As gamblers with a long time experience about how these odds are apportioned we all can without stress imagine what the odds difference would be like, The odds for a YES to a bitcoin ETF approval will be very small while that of a NO  that there won't be an approval of the ETF will be the big odd.

 The possibility of having the bitcoin ETF approved is very much possible based on a lot of paperwork's that have been put in place with some legal backing to it's pending approval. No casino will want to take that risk of implementing such bet option in their site as they are aware that on this path they have no hedge as to whatever or otherwise of what the result will be but an eventual approval. Mind you delay is not denial.

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January 06, 2024, 09:11:38 PM
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I think that the fun starts when we don't know about the clarity of it and there's equal opportunity for every bettor who would like to bet on this event. Whether it's going to be approved or not, as long as you are happy with the results and most especially if you've won the bet then that's for sure the win that you're waiting for. So, it's all fair for everyone who's going to bet on the outcome of the decision as per SEC.
Yes, it is like that, but we have seen what has happened so far, where the SEC continues to delay it, so many of us are pessimistic that this month, the SEC will immediately approve it. And if this is the month we've been waiting for when the SEC finally approves the ETF, it could boost bitcoin to even higher prices. Indeed, when we place a bet and wait for the result, whether it is approved or still pending, and we can be the winner, it will give us joy because we managed to become the winner. Yes, you can try to bet on this event, and who knows, you could be the winner.
Most of the votes in the betting are yes the SEC approves the ETF, but you are right that no one knows when this decision will actually come, whether the approval of the Bitcoin ETF application comes this month or when.
It just that many people, including investors, are waiting and they hope the SEC will approve it in the near future.
But betting on something like this will be much more difficult than other bets such as sports betting, I personally don't have the desire or decision to be able to take part in betting and I would much prefer to use the money I have to bet on sports because the opportunities are more visible and the results will be exactly as scheduled.
But for those who bet on options like this, it doesn't matter because this is quite important and of course the approval of the Bitcoin ETF application could have very positive impact on the future development of Bitcoin.
Even if we do speak about on having no involvement of money or betting on which the community would really be still having those kind of choices whether ETF could be approved or would be rejected or would really be that delayed again for this year on which same as you said that no one really knows on what would happen. If there would really be those platforms on which they do included out this kind of stuff to be bet on then
its not really that a bad choice considering that it would really be always relevant considering that people who do gamble out on crypto based platforms are pretty much aware of Bitcoin on which means that it is normal that they would really get easily hook up on making betting just because they do know on what Bitcoin is and to those things around on whats happening.

Wil you gamble if you do see that this is something available? It would really be just that depending to someones preference since there are people who are really that
interested on this and there are ones who arent. So its up into your personal choice in the end of the day.


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January 06, 2024, 09:15:57 PM
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What is the odd for yes or no? That is what some gamblers would want to know. I do not know the odd and I may not gamble with it. It is the odd that will encourage or discourage some gamblers.
As gamblers with a long time experience about how these odds are apportioned we all can without stress imagine what the odds difference would be like, The odds for a YES to a bitcoin ETF approval will be very small while that of a NO  that there won't be an approval of the ETF will be the big odd.

 The possibility of having the bitcoin ETF approved is very much possible based on a lot of paperwork's that have been put in place with some legal backing to it's pending approval. No casino will want to take that risk of implementing such bet option in their site as they are aware that on this path they have no hedge as to whatever or otherwise of what the result will be but an eventual approval. Mind you delay is not denial.

I believe as the approval is getting near, the odds will be low as most are expecting that this will finally be approved.
But to be conservative on this betting line, much better if you will only use spare money so you won't get rekt big time.
For the odds, just head to the polymarket site. I don't think it is available in regular bookies here in the forum.
I am guessing even noncrypto users are placing their bets on this one because the likelihood of approval is quite high.
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That's true; the whole ETF approval matter has been delayed several times already. I'm not too fond of betting on something that has been postponed several times already. I have mixed feelings about the ETF approval. On the one hand, I'm positive that Bitcoin will be approved, while on the other, it's constantly being postponed. Why hasn't it been approved or even denied at this point? Why are the results delayed by that much?

In the end, in my opinion, it's going to be approved anytime in the future; however, I wouldn't bet on it; the 50/50 chance doesn't look too appealing to me. Despite what happens, even in the scenario where it's not approved, Bitcoin will do just fine without it, as it did for all these years.
Many of us are confident that a Bitcoin ETF will be approved, even though we don't know when that will happen and are still waiting for the time. But what is happening is that there are still delays that occurred before, and whether this time it will be postponed again or whether it will be immediately approved, we also don't know. But it looks like this time, it will still be postponed, and perhaps after the presidential election, there will be a bright spot.

In the meantime, we can skip the event by looking for other bets, and perhaps we can return to sports betting for a while. Or we can place bets on ETFs but don't expect much from the results because this is just for fun.

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Most of the votes in the betting are yes the SEC approves the ETF, but you are right that no one knows when this decision will actually come, whether the approval of the Bitcoin ETF application comes this month or when.
It just that many people, including investors, are waiting and they hope the SEC will approve it in the near future.
But betting on something like this will be much more difficult than other bets such as sports betting, I personally don't have the desire or decision to be able to take part in betting and I would much prefer to use the money I have to bet on sports because the opportunities are more visible and the results will be exactly as scheduled.
But for those who bet on options like this, it doesn't matter because this is quite important and of course the approval of the Bitcoin ETF application could have very positive impact on the future development of Bitcoin.
Many people would vote yes, the SEC approves ETFs, but we don't know what happens. This event was full of unnecessary drama, but it seemed like it had been planned by several parties. Yes, it will be more difficult to choose the bets, but maybe people are just choosing the bets this time for fun and not taking it seriously. People are waiting for the moment of approval because they think that with the approval of the Bitcoin ETF, it can push the price to increase very high, and there may also be a long rally for the price of bitcoin so that it can break through the previous ATH price. If a Bitcoin ETF is approved, it will change cryptocurrencies in the eyes of many governments and the public, so there is a possibility that the adoption process will grow even faster.
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January 07, 2024, 03:04:45 PM
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That's true; the whole ETF approval matter has been delayed several times already. I'm not too fond of betting on something that has been postponed several times already. I have mixed feelings about the ETF approval. On the one hand, I'm positive that Bitcoin will be approved, while on the other, it's constantly being postponed. Why hasn't it been approved or even denied at this point? Why are the results delayed by that much?

In the end, in my opinion, it's going to be approved anytime in the future; however, I wouldn't bet on it; the 50/50 chance doesn't look too appealing to me. Despite what happens, even in the scenario where it's not approved, Bitcoin will do just fine without it, as it did for all these years.
Many of us are confident that a Bitcoin ETF will be approved, even though we don't know when that will happen and are still waiting for the time. But what is happening is that there are still delays that occurred before, and whether this time it will be postponed again or whether it will be immediately approved, we also don't know. But it looks like this time, it will still be postponed, and perhaps after the presidential election, there will be a bright spot.

In the meantime, we can skip the event by looking for other bets, and perhaps we can return to sports betting for a while. Or we can place bets on ETFs but don't expect much from the results because this is just for fun.

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Most of the votes in the betting are yes the SEC approves the ETF, but you are right that no one knows when this decision will actually come, whether the approval of the Bitcoin ETF application comes this month or when.
It just that many people, including investors, are waiting and they hope the SEC will approve it in the near future.
But betting on something like this will be much more difficult than other bets such as sports betting, I personally don't have the desire or decision to be able to take part in betting and I would much prefer to use the money I have to bet on sports because the opportunities are more visible and the results will be exactly as scheduled.
But for those who bet on options like this, it doesn't matter because this is quite important and of course the approval of the Bitcoin ETF application could have very positive impact on the future development of Bitcoin.
Many people would vote yes, the SEC approves ETFs, but we don't know what happens. This event was full of unnecessary drama, but it seemed like it had been planned by several parties. Yes, it will be more difficult to choose the bets, but maybe people are just choosing the bets this time for fun and not taking it seriously. People are waiting for the moment of approval because they think that with the approval of the Bitcoin ETF, it can push the price to increase very high, and there may also be a long rally for the price of bitcoin so that it can break through the previous ATH price. If a Bitcoin ETF is approved, it will change cryptocurrencies in the eyes of many governments and the public, so there is a possibility that the adoption process will grow even faster.

Tired of waiting for it too. I would rather be betting on something else. Who knows Gensler could be betting NO again and he wins this bet, easy money for him.

ETF approval will just keep the investors waiting and its too much of a distraction anymore, they were even sending an alert this time that Blackrock has $2B ready for the ETF. I don't think you can believe it anymore. The chances of this approval happening are after the halving and the price continues to go up while the market is unsustainable already. People will be buying while the institutions are selling.


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January 07, 2024, 03:14:21 PM
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Such prediction can be manoeuvred and compromised by the way it was ought to be at when some of the all awaiting approval organisers could have interests based on the prominent and attractive amount of stakes on the board because it is a not projected game specifically for gambling even though there is is possiblity means of stakes like that.
So, I am personally not staking a bet on such instead I stick to my reliable betting sites.
Besides.... I still don't know how attractive it would be of me giving any form of off gambling program that is not strictly projected for gambling a try to stake. I am just cool with my casino gambling sites here.

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January 07, 2024, 04:27:16 PM
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I know that there are diverse bets on unconventional events like Miss World, the US election and even wars. But this one is new and I just want to know if you will be comfortable betting on the spot Bitcoin ETF.


No I am not going to bet on that event, at least for me it doesn't really make sense to place a bet. I can understand that people like to bet on big events like elections, miss universe competitions, or other things. But when it comes to bitcoin I am only heavily invested in the market and would participate from the ETF approval. There are only two outcomes and we could use the bet to hedge ourselves against the ETFs not being approved and a short term drop in prices. But this would only reduce our profits if we believe in the long term positive trend of bitcoins. So, instead of gambling here I would just use that money and keep buying bitcoins directly to keep growing my portfolio.
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January 07, 2024, 10:38:19 PM
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I know that there are diverse bets on unconventional events like Miss World, the US election and even wars. But this one is new and I just want to know if you will be comfortable betting on the spot Bitcoin ETF.


No I am not going to bet on that event, at least for me it doesn't really make sense to place a bet. I can understand that people like to bet on big events like elections, miss universe competitions, or other things. But when it comes to bitcoin I am only heavily invested in the market and would participate from the ETF approval. There are only two outcomes and we could use the bet to hedge ourselves against the ETFs not being approved and a short term drop in prices. But this would only reduce our profits if we believe in the long term positive trend of bitcoins. So, instead of gambling here I would just use that money and keep buying bitcoins directly to keep growing my portfolio.
On investment approach then you would really be definitely be doing this on which you wont really be making out bets basing up whether ETF would be that approved or gets rejected.
Pretty sure that most of us here are really that investing into crypto aside on just playing gambling, we do have our own portfolio. Some do really have those interest on betting
about on future market events and make money out of those via betting but there are ones who do really make out some separation in between leisure and their investment
just because they do feel that this is something more ethical on doing so rather than on betting against your will and preference on which i dont see
something wrong with this.
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January 07, 2024, 11:09:33 PM
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A Polygon-based gambling site allows gamblers to gamble on the outcome of the spot Bitcoin ETF application by some investors. Gamblers are required to choose Yes” or “No” bets on whether the Bitcoin ETF applications will be approved or not. According to a report about $1.5 million worth of bets have been placed and bettors are patiently waiting for SEC's decision. From reports it seems that the majority of gamblers believe that the SEC will approve so the majority of them choose yes.

I know that there are diverse bets on unconventional events like Miss World, the US election and even wars. But this one is new and I just want to know if you will be comfortable betting on the spot Bitcoin ETF.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-etf-approval-results-gambling-reddit-community

I don’t think there will be anything that will change my opinion about bitcoin sooner or later because of how I trust the system on which it works on. Spot Bitcoin ETF will just cause some imbalance in the market and the market will get back to its normalcy after the incident. If you have got a plan on how to accumulate bitcoin or sell, the state of spot bitcoin ETF should not scare you to scatter your plans, stick to it. If there’s a way to benefit massively from the spot Bitcoin ETF approval, you can follow the trend and take your profit immediately. Don’t forget that the market will return to its not make way after this event have taken place.

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January 07, 2024, 11:37:28 PM
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I think that the fun starts when we don't know about the clarity of it and there's equal opportunity for every bettor who would like to bet on this event. Whether it's going to be approved or not, as long as you are happy with the results and most especially if you've won the bet then that's for sure the win that you're waiting for. So, it's all fair for everyone who's going to bet on the outcome of the decision as per SEC.
Yes, it is like that, but we have seen what has happened so far, where the SEC continues to delay it, so many of us are pessimistic that this month, the SEC will immediately approve it. And if this is the month we've been waiting for when the SEC finally approves the ETF, it could boost bitcoin to even higher prices.
While there are rumors that there's the likely that it's gonna get approved. The fun is there and we don't have idea if it's going to be as is because no matter what happens and the decision of the SEC, we all just have to take, bear, and accept it. And for the bettors that are into these scenarios, this is like always the special event that we get to see from the community.

Indeed, when we place a bet and wait for the result, whether it is approved or still pending, and we can be the winner, it will give us joy because we managed to become the winner. Yes, you can try to bet on this event, and who knows, you could be the winner.
I know that there are gamblers that can do their bets for both results and that's how they see the fun on it. And as the majority are just speculators and waiting for the actuality of the result, if you enjoy doing these things then you just have to do it on what you think is going to give you some benefit and pastime while you're waiting for what's to come on this market.

Spot Bitcoin ETF will just cause some imbalance in the market and the market will get back to its normalcy after the incident.
What's the imbalance that it will give to market? It's going to give more exposure to the actual Bitcoin market but I agree to you that everything is going to be back to normal after all of these applications, approvals, rejections and adoptions come.

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January 08, 2024, 07:43:23 AM
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Tired of waiting for it too. I would rather be betting on something else. Who knows Gensler could be betting NO again and he wins this bet, easy money for him.

ETF approval will just keep the investors waiting and its too much of a distraction anymore, they were even sending an alert this time that Blackrock has $2B ready for the ETF. I don't think you can believe it anymore. The chances of this approval happening are after the halving and the price continues to go up while the market is unsustainable already. People will be buying while the institutions are selling.
There must be a feeling of boredom when someone waits for the bet to be finished. But if it were just for fun and placing a bet and then forgetting about it and letting it happen, it would be better for him because he wouldn't have to think about it and would rather focus on other things. The important thing was that he had placed his bet and let the outcome be.

I'm not waiting for ETF Approval anymore because it's been postponed too many times. I better prepare to collect more bitcoins in an effort to wait for the new ATH price for bitcoin. We'll see what happens, and if the ETF approval is delayed again, that's okay because it means we are still given the opportunity to buy more bitcoin.

While there are rumors that there's the likely that it's gonna get approved. The fun is there and we don't have idea if it's going to be as is because no matter what happens and the decision of the SEC, we all just have to take, bear, and accept it. And for the bettors that are into these scenarios, this is like always the special event that we get to see from the community.
One day, an ETF will be approved, and it is only a matter of time. We don't know what decision the SEC will make this time. But seeing that there was a previous delay makes me feel less interested because I feel like the SEC will delay it again this time. If the ETF is indeed approved, there are definitely signs that it will come out in the market, but so far, the price is still going up and down.

I know that there are gamblers that can do their bets for both results and that's how they see the fun on it. And as the majority are just speculators and waiting for the actuality of the result, if you enjoy doing these things then you just have to do it on what you think is going to give you some benefit and pastime while you're waiting for what's to come on this market.
Yes, there are definitely gamblers who will bet both because this is a good opportunity to get a win from one of the bets. And that is one way that those who like to place bets will take. Perhaps I'll place a bet too, but I don't know, I'm still not moved to go to the market and place a bet ahahaha.
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January 08, 2024, 07:52:05 AM
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I think that the fun starts when we don't know about the clarity of it and there's equal opportunity for every bettor who would like to bet on this event. Whether it's going to be approved or not, as long as you are happy with the results and most especially if you've won the bet then that's for sure the win that you're waiting for. So, it's all fair for everyone who's going to bet on the outcome of the decision as per SEC.
Yes, it is like that, but we have seen what has happened so far, where the SEC continues to delay it, so many of us are pessimistic that this month, the SEC will immediately approve it. And if this is the month we've been waiting for when the SEC finally approves the ETF, it could boost bitcoin to even higher prices. Indeed, when we place a bet and wait for the result, whether it is approved or still pending, and we can be the winner, it will give us joy because we managed to become the winner. Yes, you can try to bet on this event, and who knows, you could be the winner.
Bitcoin ETF approval has become a wait on the Godot,  and for sure no one no what next is going to be coming from the sec,  there have been a lot of delays in this regard and as such many have lost hope on timing,  and even though we all anticipates the approval to come on time and get things done with we have to make sure not to become over the bearing of the fact and become too passive in our speculations.

So for that,  I may likely refrain a bit from speculating the price of bitcoin and up to that extent also I will not be placing a bet on the ETF approval either because this is the most unrealistic bet.
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January 08, 2024, 08:05:18 AM
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I know that there are diverse bets on unconventional events like Miss World, the US election and even wars. But this one is new and I just want to know if you will be comfortable betting on the spot Bitcoin ETF.
Let's us be careful where we are gambling as many would hide under this to swindle people. But for gambling of this sort, it is not new, only that the ETF per se is new when it comes to the Bitcoin investment, and since it is what is appreciated now, people are finding ways to make money around it and I do not think that this is a bad idea if it is legit.

But who knows the capacity of the people involved? What if the number of people that won the bet is in the hundreds of millions, can they ever be able to pay? That is the risk since no one knows their financial standing but just gambling. They might have been doing similar things before but the amount might not be as high as it would be now to the point that it could overwhelm them. Well, I sense trouble if more people participated and the amount of running to a huge value. For me, I will not gamble on my money with them, but if it is another trusted site that is well-experienced in gambling, why not?

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January 08, 2024, 08:16:12 AM
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It's quite difficult to guess whether Bitcoin ETF will be accepted or not and therefore I don't want to risk my money on something that is difficult to predict, but I'm not saying that this bet is not interesting, it is interesting but not suitable for me. Moreover, not all casino platforms provide a place where their members can bet on things like this, especially the casino platform I'm using right now, they don't provide betting features like this, maybe because it's not profitable for them.

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January 08, 2024, 09:18:53 AM
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I am willing if there is availability but of course will try to less the stress by betting small amount just to join the party so if this will happen then I will be glad dancing with the winners who is waiting for ETF approval for many years now.
but of course this will only happens to my trusted casino sites and not those random who is just wanting to have a possible victims.

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January 08, 2024, 12:52:22 PM
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While there are rumors that there's the likely that it's gonna get approved. The fun is there and we don't have idea if it's going to be as is because no matter what happens and the decision of the SEC, we all just have to take, bear, and accept it. And for the bettors that are into these scenarios, this is like always the special event that we get to see from the community.
One day, an ETF will be approved, and it is only a matter of time. We don't know what decision the SEC will make this time. But seeing that there was a previous delay makes me feel less interested because I feel like the SEC will delay it again this time. If the ETF is indeed approved, there are definitely signs that it will come out in the market, but so far, the price is still going up and down.
I agree, it's just a matter of time. Some ETFs from other countries have been approved, CMIIW. And in the past, there were applications but then rejected. That's why the newer ones have already learned in the past and just corrected what they have to do so basically, it's very likely that we're going to see some approvals, it doesn't matter on how many of them but sure there will be at least one. If the SEC starts to decide to delay again the decisions, that's how they play this game. The final laugh is still on them but for sure that they're going to take huge benefit from their decisions.

I know that there are gamblers that can do their bets for both results and that's how they see the fun on it. And as the majority are just speculators and waiting for the actuality of the result, if you enjoy doing these things then you just have to do it on what you think is going to give you some benefit and pastime while you're waiting for what's to come on this market.
Yes, there are definitely gamblers who will bet both because this is a good opportunity to get a win from one of the bets. And that is one way that those who like to place bets will take. Perhaps I'll place a bet too, but I don't know, I'm still not moved to go to the market and place a bet ahahaha.
Good luck if you ever place a bet on it. Well, those that just want to have assurance will just have to find the casinos where it is listed and check out the odds on which is going to be better and just place one bet with the other. If it's just a break even, well the important thing is that you've enjoyed but if not, let it go and accept defeat as long as you've taken part of this historical moment. Historical in a manner that if it gets approval, we'll see the price to shoot. But if it's declined, it's still historical for how many times that many of these institutions have applied for it.

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