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Question: Who wins Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou?
Anthony Joshua by KO - 5 (17.2%)
Anthony Joshua by decision - 6 (20.7%)
Francis Ngannou by KO - 16 (55.2%)
Francis Ngannou by decision - 2 (6.9%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
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March 10, 2024, 10:24:48 AM
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Today I was watching some tiktok videos and one video showed up and I think everyone has to watch this video: www.tiktok.com/@fightmma.hype/video/7344412706214038816
To spoil you, this video shows how Tyson Fury was struggling against Ngannou and then comes the video of how Joshua was playing with Ngannou like the cat plays with a mouse. I still can't believe what I watched. At first I watched the fight where Ngannou won against Tyson Fury and then, months later, I watch a fight where Joshua simply destroys Ngannou.
Now Tyson Fury is making excuses and says that he was shit when he was fighting Ngannou and if he and Jushua fights, Joshue will face absolutely different Fury.
Lots of money will be made if they fight and it will be a hella interesting.


Maybe he was telling the truth as it was a different Ngannou that we saw vs Joshua. Clearly he was mismatch, and we can't say that he wasn't training hard since he came from a loss and wanted to prove himself that he belonged to the league of the big boys and could dominated. I believe a lot of us believe that Ngannou would be a threat to AJ, although he might not beat AJ but at least would give him a tough fight, but turns out it was just a easy peasy for AJ  as he does not need to sweat it out to win.

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Maybe he was telling the truth as it was a different Ngannou that we saw vs Joshua. Clearly he was mismatch, and we can't say that he wasn't training hard since he came from a loss and wanted to prove himself that he belonged to the league of the big boys and could dominated. I believe a lot of us believe that Ngannou would be a threat to AJ, although he might not beat AJ but at least would give him a tough fight, but turns out it was just a easy peasy for AJ  as he does not need to sweat it out to win.
I couldn’t watch the fight, I just read the review of the fight in the morning, and was surprised how easily AJ managed to defeat Ngannou. There was a lot of talk here that Ngannou would arrange a difficult fight for AJ, but how easily it all happened, I don’t know what to say, it turns out that if we can compare Ngannou’s two fights with Fury and AJ, it turns out that Fury is really in very bad shape, and now it becomes clear why he is playing for time to postpone the fight with Usyk.

AJ is a professional fighter, perhaps Ngannou is not ready for the world of big boxing. I don’t doubt that now there will be talk about revenge and the like, for Ngannou this is a world of big money, which he will try to hold on to as long as possible.

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March 10, 2024, 11:03:48 AM
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In the fight happened what Mike Tyson used to say "everyone has a game plan until he is punched in the mouth" Cheesy What is exactly what happened to Ngannou. He probably trained and prepared for 10 rounds, but after 2 minutes and first knockdown, his faced showed that he was completely lost. If the rounds would be 5 minutes like in MMA, he wont survive for more than 3 minutes. That belt saved him from knockout in first round imho.

Whos next to beat Ngannou in boxing? Wilder? He would be more quick than AJ, but with same power. First round KO probably? Cheesy

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March 10, 2024, 01:26:39 PM
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In the fight happened what Mike Tyson used to say "everyone has a game plan until he is punched in the mouth" Cheesy What is exactly what happened to Ngannou. He probably trained and prepared for 10 rounds, but after 2 minutes and first knockdown, his faced showed that he was completely lost. If the rounds would be 5 minutes like in MMA, he wont survive for more than 3 minutes. That belt saved him from knockout in first round imho.

Whos next to beat Ngannou in boxing? Wilder? He would be more quick than AJ, but with same power. First round KO probably? Cheesy

I think his done, or if anyone just wants to make money from his current fame, they will gonna arrange another big fight for him as long as he is making money in the Middle East. Now that he was quickly knocked out like that, he needed some long rest and enjoy the money he made from that fight and get well soon so that he could get back to the right whenever he was ready. It maybe seem easy for him to win against the Heavyweight pro Boxers but in reality, champions like Joshua and Fury are almost impossible to beat because of their long journey of training and experience.

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In the fight happened what Mike Tyson used to say "everyone has a game plan until he is punched in the mouth" Cheesy What is exactly what happened to Ngannou. He probably trained and prepared for 10 rounds, but after 2 minutes and first knockdown, his faced showed that he was completely lost. If the rounds would be 5 minutes like in MMA, he wont survive for more than 3 minutes. That belt saved him from knockout in first round imho.

Whos next to beat Ngannou in boxing? Wilder? He would be more quick than AJ, but with same power. First round KO probably? Cheesy

I think his done, or if anyone just wants to make money from his current fame, they will gonna arrange another big fight for him as long as he is making money in the Middle East. Now that he was quickly knocked out like that, he needed some long rest and enjoy the money he made from that fight and get well soon so that he could get back to the right whenever he was ready. It maybe seem easy for him to win against the Heavyweight pro Boxers but in reality, champions like Joshua and Fury are almost impossible to beat because of their long journey of training and experience.

It's Fury's fault, he didn't train well during their fight and after that it made people convinced that Ngannou is a real deal. But it was proven wrong by AJ as he finished the fight early and the fans were shocked. I'm sure they are expecting that this fight will go to distance as AJ will not be so aggressive, but with just quick straight from AJ, Ngannou already felt his power and could not recover his normal strength.

It was suppose to be AJ vs Wilder, but Wilder destroyed his chance.. it could have been more entertaining as Wilder could give AJ a tough fight, but because of what happen to Wilder, Ngannou was given a go to faced AJ and that made AJ to easily win and now he is just waiting for another championship fight.

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I think his done, or if anyone just wants to make money from his current fame, they will gonna arrange another big fight for him as long as he is making money in the Middle East. Now that he was quickly knocked out like that, he needed some long rest and enjoy the money he made from that fight and get well soon so that he could get back to the right whenever he was ready. It maybe seem easy for him to win against the Heavyweight pro Boxers but in reality, champions like Joshua and Fury are almost impossible to beat because of their long journey of training and experience.
The fight was too short for any conclusions to be drawn, Joshua hit the body several times, maybe Ngannou was confused, I don’t know, but it was just the beginning of the fight. Ngannou simply missed a very strong shot from Joshua, he missed it too early and it became his fatal mistake. In the second round, it seemed that Ngannou had recovered and could continue the fight, but his defense turned out to be too weak a point for him, and he again missed strong blows. Well, those who said that fighters of other martial arts have no place in professional boxing should be happy with this fight.
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In the fight happened what Mike Tyson used to say "everyone has a game plan until he is punched in the mouth" Cheesy What is exactly what happened to Ngannou. He probably trained and prepared for 10 rounds, but after 2 minutes and first knockdown, his faced showed that he was completely lost. If the rounds would be 5 minutes like in MMA, he wont survive for more than 3 minutes. That belt saved him from knockout in first round imho.

Whos next to beat Ngannou in boxing? Wilder? He would be more quick than AJ, but with same power. First round KO probably? Cheesy

I think his done, or if anyone just wants to make money from his current fame, they will gonna arrange another big fight for him as long as he is making money in the Middle East. Now that he was quickly knocked out like that, he needed some long rest and enjoy the money he made from that fight and get well soon so that he could get back to the right whenever he was ready. It maybe seem easy for him to win against the Heavyweight pro Boxers but in reality, champions like Joshua and Fury are almost impossible to beat because of their long journey of training and experience.

There could still be another fight for Ngannou in boxing. Maybe someone who is much fairer to fight. I think Francis is now humble. Sad to see this guy had made a big fuzz in boxing and ended too quickly.

He will fight in PFL soon. If he can make a big KO in there, I think he can once again make a deal in boxing. He should be making it smart in deciding who to fight this time. AJ is not a slow-moving target and he is a very experienced boxer. Too late to realize this.


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I doubt that he underestimated Anthony Joshua. I believe what really happen is we overestimated him thinking he has a shot on beating a real pro boxer AJ. He was there because of the hype, we bought it and we believe he can win, when actually he is not a championship caliber fighter, he is just a newbie in boxing. I know he is good back in UFC, but that does not automatically make him great in boxing as well.
  People thought Francis will be able to hold off Aj, same way he did Fury. Boxing can be an  unpredictable game, a game where title holders can lose to the underdogs in the case of Anthony Joshua and Francis, I feel like Aj was underestimated in the fight, they didn’t expect the match to take that quick turn of Aj winning by knockout. Now people will know that the UFC is way different from Boxing. Its training is more intensive compared to UFC game. Francis Ngannou  need to consider switching Into boxing. Aj even encouraged he doesn’t give up on his boxing aspiration.  Despite his lost he still  cashout in his ends.
   Personally I think Francis will excel in boxing if he focus on the game, he has the physique  and of course the strength, at least we can’t deny that he has those qualities, he his an amazing athlete and if he keep his mind right and ready he can face any opponent thrown at him.
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I doubt that he underestimated Anthony Joshua. I believe what really happen is we overestimated him thinking he has a shot on beating a real pro boxer AJ. He was there because of the hype, we bought it and we believe he can win, when actually he is not a championship caliber fighter, he is just a newbie in boxing. I know he is good back in UFC, but that does not automatically make him great in boxing as well.

I highly agree.  Looking at the fight of Nganou against Tyson Fury, the fight makes Ngannou look like a champion-caliber by simply showing us that he can go toe to toe against Tyson Fury and almost won the fight.

So after that fight against Tyson Fury, Ngannou's career gets tons of hype.

  People thought Francis will be able to hold off Aj, same way he did Fury. Boxing can be an  unpredictable game

or manipulated... to make someone looks good even though they are not.

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, a game where title holders can lose to the underdogs in the case of Anthony Joshua and Francis, I feel like Aj was underestimated in the fight, they didn’t expect the match to take that quick turn of Aj winning by knockout. Now people will know that the UFC is way different from Boxing. Its training is more intensive compared to UFC game. Francis Ngannou  need to consider switching Into boxing. Aj even encouraged he doesn’t give up on his boxing aspiration.  Despite his lost he still  cashout in his ends.

Well, in sports upset happens normally. but in case of Ngannou against Joshua, I never think that Joshua is the underdog, just by looking at their boxing record, we can easily tell who has the advantage. 0-1 (now 0-2) against 27 -3 (now 28-3). No matter how talented Ngannou is, experience will always prevail unless the opponent gets knocked out.

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  Personally I think Francis will exile in boxing if he focus on the game, he has the physique  and of course the strength, at least we can’t deny that he has those qualities, he his an amazing athlete and if he keep his mind right and ready he can face any opponent thrown at him.

I think otherwise, with the age of Ngannou who is reaching his 38th birthday this September, there is a slim chance for him to excel in boxing against a champion caliber boxer because his opponent might be much younger and much familiar in boxing than him.  Being outside the prime age simply means his attribute is starting to decline and this will have huge impact in the match.

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Today I was watching some tiktok videos and one video showed up and I think everyone has to watch this video: www.tiktok.com/@fightmma.hype/video/7344412706214038816
To spoil you, this video shows how Tyson Fury was struggling against Ngannou and then comes the video of how Joshua was playing with Ngannou like the cat plays with a mouse. I still can't believe what I watched. At first I watched the fight where Ngannou won against Tyson Fury and then, months later, I watch a fight where Joshua simply destroys Ngannou.
Now Tyson Fury is making excuses and says that he was shit when he was fighting Ngannou and if he and Jushua fights, Joshue will face absolutely different Fury.
Lots of money will be made if they fight and it will be a hella interesting.

In boxing they always say that styles make fights. Fury doesn’t have the power that Joshua has and Joshua doesn’t have the chin or stamina that Fury has. They are drastically different fighters and that’s why we saw drastically different outcomes. It doesn’t necessarily tell us who would win in a fight between them because the circumstances are entirely different. Joshua is used to overwhelming his opponents early on but when they are able to withstand his power is when he gets in trouble.

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Today I was watching some tiktok videos and one video showed up and I think everyone has to watch this video: www.tiktok.com/@fightmma.hype/video/7344412706214038816
To spoil you, this video shows how Tyson Fury was struggling against Ngannou and then comes the video of how Joshua was playing with Ngannou like the cat plays with a mouse. I still can't believe what I watched. At first I watched the fight where Ngannou won against Tyson Fury and then, months later, I watch a fight where Joshua simply destroys Ngannou.
Now Tyson Fury is making excuses and says that he was shit when he was fighting Ngannou and if he and Jushua fights, Joshue will face absolutely different Fury.
Lots of money will be made if they fight and it will be a hella interesting.

In boxing they always say that styles make fights. Fury doesn’t have the power that Joshua has and Joshua doesn’t have the chin or stamina that Fury has. They are drastically different fighters and that’s why we saw drastically different outcomes. It doesn’t necessarily tell us who would win in a fight between them because the circumstances are entirely different. Joshua is used to overwhelming his opponents early on but when they are able to withstand his power is when he gets in trouble.

Because Fury is a smart boxer, he doesn't go toe to toe against a known KO artist, he will slowly destroy it with his good head movements and jabs. But if you look at his previous fights, you can say that he really has the power because the last 4 fights before Ngannou, it was all won via KO/TKO.

So if Fury will face AJ, I doubt AJ will win as Fury is hard to beat, he will not allow himself to be careless and try to go for a KO, AJ would love to go for a KO, so probably AJ will catch a powerful counter from Fury, I might be wrong but right now this is my take if they'll ever face.

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Today I was watching some tiktok videos and one video showed up and I think everyone has to watch this video: www.tiktok.com/@fightmma.hype/video/7344412706214038816
To spoil you, this video shows how Tyson Fury was struggling against Ngannou and then comes the video of how Joshua was playing with Ngannou like the cat plays with a mouse. I still can't believe what I watched. At first I watched the fight where Ngannou won against Tyson Fury and then, months later, I watch a fight where Joshua simply destroys Ngannou.
Now Tyson Fury is making excuses and says that he was shit when he was fighting Ngannou and if he and Jushua fights, Joshue will face absolutely different Fury.
Lots of money will be made if they fight and it will be a hella interesting.

In boxing they always say that styles make fights. Fury doesn’t have the power that Joshua has and Joshua doesn’t have the chin or stamina that Fury has. They are drastically different fighters and that’s why we saw drastically different outcomes. It doesn’t necessarily tell us who would win in a fight between them because the circumstances are entirely different. Joshua is used to overwhelming his opponents early on but when they are able to withstand his power is when he gets in trouble.

Because Fury is a smart boxer, he doesn't go toe to toe against a known KO artist, he will slowly destroy it with his good head movements and jabs. But if you look at his previous fights, you can say that he really has the power because the last 4 fights before Ngannou, it was all won via KO/TKO.

So if Fury will face AJ, I doubt AJ will win as Fury is hard to beat, he will not allow himself to be careless and try to go for a KO, AJ would love to go for a KO, so probably AJ will catch a powerful counter from Fury, I might be wrong but right now this is my take if they'll ever face.

Now that the hype is on AJ, it would be a great championship fight between the two. However, Fury is into a big fight against Usyk if he loss that would make Usyk to be the best in the heavyweight division since he already beat AJ twice, Wilder is off, and he beat Fury.

Maybe what's intesting after the Fury vs Usyk fight if Fury loss is that they will fight again in a rematch. Maybe a trilogy if Fury wins the 2nd.

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In boxing they always say that styles make fights. Fury doesn’t have the power that Joshua has and Joshua doesn’t have the chin or stamina that Fury has. They are drastically different fighters and that’s why we saw drastically different outcomes. It doesn’t necessarily tell us who would win in a fight between them because the circumstances are entirely different. Joshua is used to overwhelming his opponents early on but when they are able to withstand his power is when he gets in trouble.
ThIs is the exact fact about Joshua, a fighter going against Joshua should make sure he's got the stamina and he can be sure to at some point be able to get an advantage with which he could use against Joshua and that will be exactly after his exhaustion which will come after a long period of fight and that ha been the tactics fury has employed in most of their games which has made it slightly difficult for Joshua most of the times to be able to get a very good tackle against Joshua and that's been the fury advantage over Joshua.

If you are not fit enough to keep up with such stamina it's then seen like you will not find possible victory around Joshua but may only literally struggle around him because he will rush you from the beginning into exhaustion and take advantage of it from there exact what he did to ngannou

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Today I was watching some tiktok videos and one video showed up and I think everyone has to watch this video: www.tiktok.com/@fightmma.hype/video/7344412706214038816
To spoil you, this video shows how Tyson Fury was struggling against Ngannou and then comes the video of how Joshua was playing with Ngannou like the cat plays with a mouse. I still can't believe what I watched. At first I watched the fight where Ngannou won against Tyson Fury and then, months later, I watch a fight where Joshua simply destroys Ngannou.
Now Tyson Fury is making excuses and says that he was shit when he was fighting Ngannou and if he and Jushua fights, Joshue will face absolutely different Fury.
Lots of money will be made if they fight and it will be a hella interesting.

In boxing they always say that styles make fights. Fury doesn’t have the power that Joshua has and Joshua doesn’t have the chin or stamina that Fury has. They are drastically different fighters and that’s why we saw drastically different outcomes. It doesn’t necessarily tell us who would win in a fight between them because the circumstances are entirely different. Joshua is used to overwhelming his opponents early on but when they are able to withstand his power is when he gets in trouble.

Because Fury is a smart boxer, he doesn't go toe to toe against a known KO artist, he will slowly destroy it with his good head movements and jabs. But if you look at his previous fights, you can say that he really has the power because the last 4 fights before Ngannou, it was all won via KO/TKO.

So if Fury will face AJ, I doubt AJ will win as Fury is hard to beat, he will not allow himself to be careless and try to go for a KO, AJ would love to go for a KO, so probably AJ will catch a powerful counter from Fury, I might be wrong but right now this is my take if they'll ever face.

Now that the hype is on AJ, it would be a great championship fight between the two. However, Fury is into a big fight against Usyk if he loss that would make Usyk to be the best in the heavyweight division since he already beat AJ twice, Wilder is off, and he beat Fury.

Maybe what's intesting after the Fury vs Usyk fight if Fury loss is that they will fight again in a rematch. Maybe a trilogy if Fury wins the 2nd.

Joshua vs Fury has never happened yet, if Fury lost to Usyk, it's reasonable to see Joshua and Fury fight.
I have the feeling Fury will lose against Usyk by KO. It will be sad for Fury fans to see his record have 1 loss and perhaps 2 if he fights AJ too.

There's truth to what they say that it's the punch you don't see coming that knocks you out. Francis didn't see the fist coming. The poll result is Francis Ngannou by KO, so many users must have bet for Francis to win.

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  People thought Francis will be able to hold off Aj, same way he did Fury. Boxing can be an  unpredictable game, a game where title holders can lose to the underdogs in the case of Anthony Joshua and Francis, I feel like Aj was underestimated in the fight, they didn’t expect the match to take that quick turn of Aj winning by knockout. Now people will know that the UFC is way different from Boxing. Its training is more intensive compared to UFC game. Francis Ngannou  need to consider switching Into boxing. Aj even encouraged he doesn’t give up on his boxing aspiration.  Despite his lost he still  cashout in his ends.
   Personally I think Francis will excel in boxing if he focus on the game, he has the physique  and of course the strength, at least we can’t deny that he has those qualities, he his an amazing athlete and if he keep his mind right and ready he can face any opponent thrown at him.
Anthony Joshua had the most to lose between him and Ngannou. The knockout punch was a terrible one, I hope Francis Ngannou is okay. Francis Ngannou may have lost the fight but financially I think he did okay. He has made more money in his two boxing matches than he’s made throughout his MMA career. I hope he doesn’t close the door to boxing. There is a lesson to learn from every loss. I bet the next person Francis Ngannou faces in a boxing ring will meet a savage beast.

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March 11, 2024, 07:37:35 PM
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Joshua vs Fury has never happened yet, if Fury lost to Usyk, it's reasonable to see Joshua and Fury fight.
I have the feeling Fury will lose against Usyk by KO. It will be sad for Fury fans to see his record have 1 loss and perhaps 2 if he fights AJ too.

There's truth to what they say that it's the punch you don't see coming that knocks you out. Francis didn't see the fist coming. The poll result is Francis Ngannou by KO, so many users must have bet for Francis to win.
Tyson Fury recorded a video where he stated that he will surely fight both of them with rematches if they want (and also stating that he will accept it after he batters them). After he beats Usyk and Joshua for two times, then he will fight and beat Ngannou again (as he stated in the video).

Anthony Joshua had the most to lose between him and Ngannou. The knockout punch was a terrible one, I hope Francis Ngannou is okay. Francis Ngannou may have lost the fight but financially I think he did okay. He has made more money in his two boxing matches than he’s made throughout his MMA career. I hope he doesn’t close the door to boxing. There is a lesson to learn from every loss. I bet the next person Francis Ngannou faces in a boxing ring will meet a savage beast.
I think, he became too confident after beating (I would call it beating) Tyson Fury and anticipated Antony Joshua, he made a huge mistake and got knocked out for that. I think he isn't going to close door to boxing, instead, he has now to prove again that that was just a bad day in the office and that's all. We will definitely see him in boxing again. I would say, it's guaranteed to see Tyson Fury VS Ngannou 2.

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I doubt that he underestimated Anthony Joshua. I believe what really happen is we overestimated him thinking he has a shot on beating a real pro boxer AJ. He was there because of the hype, we bought it and we believe he can win, when actually he is not a championship caliber fighter, he is just a newbie in boxing. I know he is good back in UFC, but that does not automatically make him great in boxing as well.
  People thought Francis will be able to hold off Aj, same way he did Fury. Boxing can be an  unpredictable game, a game where title holders can lose to the underdogs in the case of Anthony Joshua and Francis, I feel like Aj was underestimated in the fight, they didn’t expect the match to take that quick turn of Aj winning by knockout. Now people will know that the UFC is way different from Boxing. Its training is more intensive compared to UFC game. Francis Ngannou  need to consider switching Into boxing. Aj even encouraged he doesn’t give up on his boxing aspiration.  Despite his lost he still  cashout in his ends.
   Personally I think Francis will excel in boxing if he focus on the game, he has the physique  and of course the strength, at least we can’t deny that he has those qualities, he his an amazing athlete and if he keep his mind right and ready he can face any opponent thrown at him.

AJ was underestimated? Only a casual fan in the sport with zero to little knowledge will underestimate AJ's chances against Ngannou. I want Ngannou to win against AJ but I did not bet. For the knowledgeable fans, it is very hard to imagine a well-trained high ranked losing to Ngannou. These pros spent years since they were kids enhancing their skills and gaining experience.

But in the first place, Francis is just into boxing to cash out that can set his financial freedom. Surviving, scoring a knock down and losing close to Fury was a bonus. I am glad Ngannou earned around $30 million in just 2 fights. He deserved it. He can retire for good and help grow PFL.

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March 12, 2024, 08:43:01 AM
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AJ was underestimated? Only a casual fan in the sport with zero to little knowledge will underestimate AJ's chances against Ngannou. I want Ngannou to win against AJ but I did not bet. For the knowledgeable fans, it is very hard to imagine a well-trained high ranked losing to Ngannou. These pros spent years since they were kids enhancing their skills and gaining experience.

But in the first place, Francis is just into boxing to cash out that can set his financial freedom. Surviving, scoring a knock down and losing close to Fury was a bonus. I am glad Ngannou earned around $30 million in just 2 fights. He deserved it. He can retire for good and help grow PFL.

Yes, AJ was underestimated. Look at vote results. 18 out of 29 were in Ngannou favor. People have voted not based with their record, but by eyes (Ngannou highlights on youtube are much better than AJs Cheesy). In addition previous unimpressive performances by AJ confused many. I was the one who did not believe that AJ will be exactly the one who would put a solid dot on Ngannou boxing skill/career. Actually Fury must have done it Cheesy I like one comment from youtube "AJ has cleaned the mess Fury created" Cheesy

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March 12, 2024, 11:02:57 AM
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AJ was underestimated? Only a casual fan in the sport with zero to little knowledge will underestimate AJ's chances against Ngannou. I want Ngannou to win against AJ but I did not bet. For the knowledgeable fans, it is very hard to imagine a well-trained high ranked losing to Ngannou. These pros spent years since they were kids enhancing their skills and gaining experience.

But in the first place, Francis is just into boxing to cash out that can set his financial freedom. Surviving, scoring a knock down and losing close to Fury was a bonus. I am glad Ngannou earned around $30 million in just 2 fights. He deserved it. He can retire for good and help grow PFL.

Yes, AJ was underestimated. Look at vote results. 18 out of 29 were in Ngannou favor. People have voted not based with their record, but by eyes (Ngannou highlights on youtube are much better than AJs Cheesy). In addition previous unimpressive performances by AJ confused many. I was the one who did not believe that AJ will be exactly the one who would put a solid dot on Ngannou boxing skill/career. Actually Fury must have done it Cheesy I like one comment from youtube "AJ has cleaned the mess Fury created" Cheesy
It's more of the feeling that boxing fans here thought that Francis has enough skills to bet a professional boxer (as Francis background is MMA). But it's not going to happen though, at least AJ proved everyone wrong again that Ngannou because of his power is enough to beat him. And we see the skill difference, AJ shows that technique is better that raw power. Did not give Ngannou any chance to settle with him, but instead AJ took it easy and uses his strategy and what they have plan with his trainer. It's simply actually, he attack the body early and Francis fall for it. He tried to block it and then AJ goes to the head when Francis read that AJ will go to the body again. So it's a misdirection and boxer knows for that kind of simply but effective technique.

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March 12, 2024, 11:07:19 AM
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As Dana White put it,

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“You know how I feel about crossovers into boxing,” White told reporters following UFC 299 in Miami. “That’s how they end. Just like that.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/dana-white-s-how-crossovers-into-boxing-end--182037

@inthelongrun - I do agree, I think if you are really a boxing fan, we all know that at some point, the skills of AJ as boxer will take over.

However, I don't think that this will stop though, those MMA fighters crossing over and making a ton of money like what Francis got in only 2 fights as a pro boxer. And we have the classic example of Floyd vs Conor as the first cross over fights that generated tons of money to a MMA fighter.

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