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January 10, 2024, 06:53:25 AM
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However, I think no one likes losing even if he gambles just for entertainment
No one likes to lose, even though gambling is just entertainment. But it depends on the person. If you intend to gamble to fill your free time, you will not think about winning and losing. You can accept whatever the result is. Even if you lose and don't like it, you can accept it because that's what gambling is like. You have to get used to thinking about only gambling in your spare time and try to forget the losses you experience so that you can accept those losses.

That's correct. We should always aim for a win in every game out there. I do agree that sports gambling has the more logical chance to win because you are not betting against the house but just guessing who will win the game. And we could enhance that winning rate by analyzing the game rather than just relying with luck for board games and other original casino games.
The downside though is it doesn't give that much. 1.5 - 2.00 per game unless we try a parlay which increases the risk factor so I guess it's not logical anymore. But I have seen successful parlays and there was someone that I was following before in the chat place of my favorite sports bookie. Sadly, I don't see her anymore, either she quit or she is busy with something else. Her winning rate is high and parlays are not really that long. From a range of 4-6 legs only and I've won a lot of times just by tailing her bets.
It can be done with sports betting because there are good sports analysis now and the internet is open for those who like to do their own reading about how the game could possibly end.
It is normal that many people want to win from gambling because they see that gambling can give them that win, especially if they are lucky. And those who bet using sports betting feel that their ability to analyze every match they know can give them win, especially when they can get accurate information about the match so they can choose a team that can win. But they must remember that once the match is underway, there will be other factors that can change the course of the match so that the analysis we carry out can be inconsistent and not match predictions. This has happened so often that many gamblers still lose in sports betting but that doesn't stop them from continuing their bets. They will look for other matches that can give them a win so they can make a lot of money. That is why when placing bets on sports betting, a person must be able to improve his ability to analyze each match so that he has a chance of winning.

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January 10, 2024, 08:22:14 AM
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There are lots of comments, sorry I can't reply to each one but in general like sportsbooks it's more logical to win. I forgot to ask about table games like poker and blackjack, I play table games more often than slot machines. Do you think table games are also bad and based only on luck?
I don't trust live dealer games frankly because I have seen several instances of the dealer cheating and even saw a few videos where they rig the roulette to some extent using magnets etc.

Sports betting is good... but the problem is the odds liquidity. In a game where both sides have an equal chance to win, you get 1.83 odds in general while on dice you get 1.98x so it adds up when you make a lot of bets. The casinos and sportsbook are very smart and they know how to negate the skill advantage that some people have in games where skill matters.

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January 10, 2024, 08:57:57 AM
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There are lots of comments, sorry I can't reply to each one but in general like sportsbooks it's more logical to win. I forgot to ask about table games like poker and blackjack, I play table games more often than slot machines. Do you think table games are also bad and based only on luck?
I don't trust live dealer games frankly because I have seen several instances of the dealer cheating and even saw a few videos where they rig the roulette to some extent using magnets etc.
That's already a given fact, or at least it's no secret that roulette can be rigged using magnetic as it you play this game, you will simply notice that it fall on a numbers that we don't expect it to go. And so you think it is being controlled by someone so that they house is going to win in the in.

Sports betting is good... but the problem is the odds liquidity. In a game where both sides have an equal chance to win, you get 1.83 odds in general while on dice you get 1.98x so it adds up when you make a lot of bets. The casinos and sportsbook are very smart and they know how to negate the skill advantage that some people have in games where skill matters.
One advantage on sports betting is that you can analyze the game itself. And so the decision is up to you whether to bet on the favorite or the underdog. And as a fan, you should now or at least have a insight as how the game will go and how the teams are going to fare against each other and maybe bet on the team that will likely to win.

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January 10, 2024, 10:25:31 AM
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I don't trust live dealer games frankly because I have seen several instances of the dealer cheating and even saw a few videos where they rig the roulette to some extent using magnets etc.

Sports betting is good... but the problem is the odds liquidity. In a game where both sides have an equal chance to win, you get 1.83 odds in general while on dice you get 1.98x so it adds up when you make a lot of bets. The casinos and sportsbook are very smart and they know how to negate the skill advantage that some people have in games where skill matters.

If it just about cheating, bookie fraud is carried out, such as in roulette games with magnets and so on, then this is something that has happened lot in several places, but when you play online and in a trusted place, like it or not you have to forget all the assumptions something like that.
In online gambling we know what happens with the games they broadcast live and of course trust will be tested here.
As long as I play at large and trusted casinos, I will always think they are fair, I will think they provide the best for all their customers without any attempts at cheating or manipulation.

Casinos will be far superior, they provide variety of games with their odds and also provide sports betting options with oddities given to be able to keep gamblers interested and use their money to bet.
I have also said that never be careless and be fooled just because there are interesting chance or odds, but consider everything with analysis to make predictions.
Sometimes many unreasonable results occur in sporting event and this is why if you only rely on chance or odds then it will only be in vain.

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January 10, 2024, 11:43:23 AM
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Most logical and profitable? Nah thanks, I am good with using what I can only afford to lose, and if I win a lot of money using small money that I can afford to lose it's even better, there is nothing here to chase for me, gambling is something I do to have some fun, and that's why I don't do it everyday.

It's sad reality that gambling isn't built in the favour of gambler, money is not that easy to make, and don't try to confuse yourself that it is, now with this mindset, how can you rely on gambling as your go-to side when you need money?

I don't trust anything strategy or trick in gambling, whatever games it can be, gambling will never choose you over the casino, you are only bound to win once in a while and that's about how good you are at managing your fund, only give to casino what you can afford to lose, because you can't always outsmart a casino.

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January 10, 2024, 11:54:39 AM
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If I had to choose one game which has some added logic and profitablitiy on it I would say that game would be poker. Because even though most of the game is based on luck, there is s very big psychological.element on poker and the way one can deceive one's for during the game.
In short, if one is very good at poker and also one can deceive others with fake cues and gestures then the chances of profitability go up.

That is of course, only valid for poker taking place in a brick and mortar casino, there is no way to deceive others if you cannot see them in the eyes or let them to see you.  Tongue

That is a characteristic which other single player games, like slots, plinko, dices and roulette lack of. Just my opinion.

You made the right choice, because poker is a game where the player has the greatest possible influence on the game. There is a lot of knowledge and styles of play, psychology, dependence of the game on the bank of chips in your hands, on the position at the table. And all this is applied by the player in order to minimize the influence of luck in poker and maximize the influence of his skill on the game. But games like plinko, roulette and dice are absolutely random.

Nevertheless, they have their own audience who wants not to think and relax in the game.

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January 10, 2024, 07:31:41 PM
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Let's think a little healthier and smarter, gambling is a game, and the purpose of a game is as a means of entertainment, so that everyone who visits it can feel happy. So... do we feel happy by playing gambling? ohh.. I forgot, we will only feel happy, only when we get a victory..... hihihi

Yes of course nobody in his deep heart will feel happy if they lose especially if they keep losing. For those who say they play for the fun of it, losing at the first time will not be a problem for them but if they continue losing then they will have some negative feeling why they are losing. I have seen some of the gamblers who pretend it is for fun they are playing but are the end they start getting worried for losing. So we need to play games that help us win more than we are going to lose to avoid being angry. Gamble as you can be happy when you lose, don't gamble like you are investing on it so that at the end you are still happy despite losing.

Then how much loss do I need to get a win and what is the largest amount I have to spend to get a small profit in gambling.
We may be fully aware of the risks and losses involved in gambling, but in reality when we gamble we often lose awareness and play without control which ultimately results in losses. We are aware that gambling is full of risks, but because our expectations about gambling are too high, we often ignore the risks involved in gambling.

Yes of course nobody in his deep heart will feel happy if they lose especially if they keep losing. For those who say they play for the fun of it, losing at the first time will not be a problem for them but if they continue losing then they will have some negative feeling why they are losing. I have seen some of the gamblers who pretend it is for fun they are playing but are the end they start getting worried for losing. So we need to play games that help us win more than we are going to lose to avoid being angry. Gamble as you can be happy when you lose, don't gamble like you are investing on it so that at the end you are still happy despite losing.

We can feel quite happy.... yes, when we feel quite satisfied with what we get. And when we talk about gambling, we will only feel happy... yes, when we feel satisfied and fulfilled in gambling, it is by getting a big win or jackpot. However, as we know, it is human nature to never feel satisfied with what he gets, so no matter how big a win he gets in gambling, there is still something called regret, regret because previously he was not able to increase the amount of his bet, maybe if I had previously increase the bet amount, then the winnings I get will be more than that.

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January 10, 2024, 11:50:53 PM
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I know that basically gambling is based on luck, but we can use tricks or strategies so that we don't spend a lot of money and can still win, even if it's only a small win.

In general, in my opinion, there are several categories of games in gambling such as house edge games, sportsbooks, slot machine games, live casino games, and lottery. In your opinion, which game do you think is the most logical to win? and what is the reason?

When I need a win I’ll check out Plinko. Move the odds to the best possible and the most amount or rows… You can gamble all day and barely make or lose anything. Not very productive, especially with smaller amounts, but if you need a win or to just amuse yourself for a bit it’s definitely a good option to consider.

While I will say that I enjoy Plinko and it is easy to gamble for a long time without losing money as stated above...  When it comes to what I believe is the most logical form of gambling, I'd have to say sports betting.  It's as trustless as a bet can be in my opinion as the outcomes are public and any shenanigans would be easy to detect.  As someone who doesn't tend to trust websites or people, I feel more comfortable when the outcome is something that can be easily independently verified.

Plinko? I'm not having much luck playing plinko, I often lose even though I only play at the easy level, are there any special tricks? Do you play easy, medium, or hard? Do you raise and lower bets? I'm interested in plinko but don't have any special tricks and often I play plinko just to increase my wagering

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January 11, 2024, 12:19:00 PM
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It is normal that many people want to win from gambling because they see that gambling can give them that win, especially if they are lucky. And those who bet using sports betting feel that their ability to analyze every match they know can give them win, especially when they can get accurate information about the match so they can choose a team that can win. But they must remember that once the match is underway, there will be other factors that can change the course of the match so that the analysis we carry out can be inconsistent and not match predictions. This has happened so often that many gamblers still lose in sports betting but that doesn't stop them from continuing their bets. They will look for other matches that can give them a win so they can make a lot of money. That is why when placing bets on sports betting, a person must be able to improve his ability to analyze each match so that he has a chance of winning.
I mean a red card, an injury, any type of penalty, basically anything could prevent a game to not go the way you want it to go. I mean we could technically have a situation where a very good team could end up losing to a very bad team and this has happened many times, and people lost millions on those games. I believe that we should be considering how we could turn this into a fun little hobby and not some money making idea.

I have seen way too many people that turned this into an "income", like their only job, and I believe that it is not going to be all that easy, we should consider that to be risky and we should consider that as not a good thing to do, we should consider it a risk and not really gamble if we want it to be our income.

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January 11, 2024, 12:25:09 PM
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I know that basically gambling is based on luck, but we can use tricks or strategies so that we don't spend a lot of money and can still win, even if it's only a small win.

In general, in my opinion, there are several categories of games in gambling such as house edge games, sportsbooks, slot machine games, live casino games, and lottery. In your opinion, which game do you think is the most logical to win? and what is the reason?

There are no tricks or strategies to win in gambling based on luck. Maybe on sports betting as there's analysis involved but if you talk about those house edge gambling games like dice, or those games with RTPs such as slots, roulettes, and related-games, what you need is being responsible. I'm referring to being able to fully control yourself in a given situation.

In gambling games where luck is the only key to winning, once a gambler experiences big winnings, they are carried away and will continue to gamble. After playing for a long, they didn't notice that their balance was now slowly depleting until busted. If only they managed to control themselves from the moment they have won, they should instead enjoy some of their profits.
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January 11, 2024, 01:00:05 PM
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I don't trust anything strategy or trick in gambling, whatever games it can be, gambling will never choose you over the casino, you are only bound to win once in a while and that's about how good you are at managing your fund, only give to casino what you can afford to lose, because you can't always outsmart a casino.
Yes, that's true and the end result is that the dealer will always win against us, so don't expect to win big against the casino even though sometimes we win once in a while but we have to be aware that we have lost several times before, gambling only talks about how to control your emotions and control yourself so that you can play gambling. done responsibly no matter the strategies and techniques used in fact I have only seen less than 1% wins against games in casinos except for influencers and streamers.

The only game that is the most logical is sports betting because after all it cannot be completely rigged and we can still win more than casino games where I have tried many strategies and techniques but still always lose, but after that I realized that playing casino games is not to win but for entertainment, except for sports betting I prefer gambling there than playing casino games.

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January 11, 2024, 10:07:27 PM
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Yes, that's true and the end result is that the dealer will always win against us, so don't expect to win big against the casino even though sometimes we win once in a while but we have to be aware that we have lost several times before, gambling only talks about how to control your emotions and control yourself so that you can play gambling. done responsibly no matter the strategies and techniques used in fact I have only seen less than 1% wins against games in casinos except for influencers and streamers.

The only game that is the most logical is sports betting because after all it cannot be completely rigged and we can still win more than casino games where I have tried many strategies and techniques but still always lose, but after that I realized that playing casino games is not to win but for entertainment, except for sports betting I prefer gambling there than playing casino games.
I also like sports betting for this reason. While in poker we cannot check the RNG, although many poker rooms assure us that various checks have been passed and that there is nothing to worry about. As a simple user, I have no choice but to accept this. The same applies to playing slots and roulette.

I will only add that when choosing odds, I prefer to look for several casinos and choose the most profitable odds, in my favor if my bet wins. The odds can sometimes be very different and in the long run this will be a good plus for us if we are not lazy and do not always lose. You also shouldn’t miss the opportunities and take advantage of the various bonuses that are offered to us.

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January 11, 2024, 11:37:21 PM
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I know that basically gambling is based on luck, but we can use tricks or strategies so that we don't spend a lot of money and can still win, even if it's only a small win.

In general, in my opinion, there are several categories of games in gambling such as house edge games, sportsbooks, slot machine games, live casino games, and lottery. In your opinion, which game do you think is the most logical to win? and what is the reason?

There are no tricks or strategies to win in gambling based on luck. Maybe on sports betting as there's analysis involved but if you talk about those house edge gambling games like dice, or those games with RTPs such as slots, roulettes, and related-games, what you need is being responsible. I'm referring to being able to fully control yourself in a given situation.

In gambling games where luck is the only key to winning, once a gambler experiences big winnings, they are carried away and will continue to gamble. After playing for a long, they didn't notice that their balance was now slowly depleting until busted. If only they managed to control themselves from the moment they have won, they should instead enjoy some of their profits.
Strategies and knowledge could really be  definitely be only applied into those games which we know that it could be something relevant or could be integrated on which same as you said that
it is really that relevant or have sense when dealing up with sports betting and some card games but in speaking about casino games then there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself that profitable or having that assurance that you would really be ending up on positive. There's no way that we could be able to assure on being profitable on gambling game even if you do
make yourself that getting involved with strategic ones on which it wont really be giving any guarantees, this is why you should really be needing to make those kind of realizations at least.
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January 11, 2024, 11:47:45 PM
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With the advancement, we were able to see everything transparent in the gambling platforms. However, sometimes our minds have a feeling that we're trapped, and we cross-check the roll. This is happening with the majority of gamblers, but we don't have such unwanted thinking while spending on sports betting. Based on how well we observed the game and the players, we were able to make the prediction precise, and the same brings a win. Here also, luck has its role, but not as much as in the casino games.

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There are no tricks or strategies to win in gambling based on luck. Maybe on sports betting as there's analysis involved but if you talk about those house edge gambling games like dice, or those games with RTPs such as slots, roulettes, and related-games, what you need is being responsible. I'm referring to being able to fully control yourself in a given situation.

In gambling games where luck is the only key to winning, once a gambler experiences big winnings, they are carried away and will continue to gamble. After playing for a long, they didn't notice that their balance was now slowly depleting until busted. If only they managed to control themselves from the moment they have won, they should instead enjoy some of their profits.
There are strategies which can be used to beat those games, but they only work if you were to gamble at a physical casino and not on an online one, still it is not a good idea for a gambler to harbor hopes of getting long term profits when they gamble.

And this is because even if those strategies exist, to actually use them and earn any money with them is very hard, so gamblers are better of forgetting about this and gamble simply for the fun they can get out of those games.

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January 12, 2024, 08:06:18 AM
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I mean a red card, an injury, any type of penalty, basically anything could prevent a game to not go the way you want it to go. I mean we could technically have a situation where a very good team could end up losing to a very bad team and this has happened many times, and people lost millions on those games. I believe that we should be considering how we could turn this into a fun little hobby and not some money making idea.

I have seen way too many people that turned this into an "income", like their only job, and I believe that it is not going to be all that easy, we should consider that to be risky and we should consider that as not a good thing to do, we should consider it a risk and not really gamble if we want it to be our income.
Yes, that's what I mean by surprises that we can't predict when the game starts. We will find it difficult to know what will happen once the match has started and can only submit the results at the end of the match. A very good team is not guaranteed to win the match if the opposing team can turn around and pressure the team and ultimately win the match. This is where we have to be careful in setting the bet amount and not use the money we can't afford. And it is true that gambling is not an idea to make money but just to have fun so we have to be able to differentiate between them.

Those who choose gambling as their only job will experience disappointment, so they will not be able to get the win they want because they cannot see that certain factors will occur that will make them lose. When we can use gambling as something entertaining, we will not be too hard on betting and will only place enough bets. We also will not consider gambling as a job because gambling is just entertainment and nothing more.

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January 16, 2024, 06:26:37 AM
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In general, in my opinion, there are several categories of games in gambling such as house edge games, sportsbooks, slot machine games, live casino games, and lottery. In your opinion, which game do you think is the most logical to win? and what is the reason?
I believe that games that we play with other people have a higher chance of winning than playing with machines operated by casinos. We can use specific skills and strategies to beat other players instead of conquering slot machines programmed with fixed win rates and low winning probability. If you happen to win the first rounds with the slot machine, it will quickly adjust the odds to get your money back. Playing with other players limits these risks and the results are determined by the actual skill of the players, with poker being my favorite.

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January 16, 2024, 07:36:55 AM
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Those who choose gambling as their only job will experience disappointment, so they will not be able to get the win they want because they cannot see that certain factors will occur that will make them lose. When we can use gambling as something entertaining, we will not be too hard on betting and will only place enough bets. We also will not consider gambling as a job because gambling is just entertainment and nothing more.
First thing have to realize is that gambling is the same as luck, meaning that gambling will only be won when have luck and when don't have luck won't win either.
By having this kind of awareness, gamblers will never think that gambling can be used as place or source of income, they can think that gambling is full of risks.
But in reality, gamblers don't think like that and they still have the belief and belief that winning can be achieved easily, we will never be able to understand how they think because there are errors in understanding gambling.
After all, there is no game or bet that can really be very profitable, there will always be wins but there will also be losses more often so that profits cannot really be obtained.
Victory is only limited to returning losses that have previously occurred and of course, if you calculate and think logically, gambling cannot be financially profitable.
We can only get pleasure and satisfaction from gambling, not to make money.

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January 16, 2024, 07:55:27 AM
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I know that basically gambling is based on luck, but we can use tricks or strategies so that we don't spend a lot of money and can still win, even if it's only a small win.

In general, in my opinion, there are several categories of games in gambling such as house edge games, sportsbooks, slot machine games, live casino games, and lottery. In your opinion, which game do you think is the most logical to win? and what is the reason?

In my opinion, games like poker and blackjack give more chances to make smart decisions, skilled-based usually leads to a reasonable way to win. Slots games are purely random, unlike skilled-based games. You have more control over the outcome of the game when you understand the rules, and strategies, and make smart choices. But do always remember that even in the games of skills, luck will always come into play, you do not know or be sure to win every time. Always remember to gamble responsibly.
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January 16, 2024, 11:55:54 AM
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First thing have to realize is that gambling is the same as luck, meaning that gambling will only be won when have luck and when don't have luck won't win either.
By having this kind of awareness, gamblers will never think that gambling can be used as place or source of income, they can think that gambling is full of risks.
But in reality, gamblers don't think like that and they still have the belief and belief that winning can be achieved easily, we will never be able to understand how they think because there are errors in understanding gambling.
After all, there is no game or bet that can really be very profitable, there will always be wins but there will also be losses more often so that profits cannot really be obtained.
Victory is only limited to returning losses that have previously occurred and of course, if you calculate and think logically, gambling cannot be financially profitable.
We can only get pleasure and satisfaction from gambling, not to make money.
By understanding that gambling requires luck, gamblers should not need to gamble too often or spend a lot of money so that they can prevent large losses. But it turns out it's not like that because there are still many gamblers who are tempted to win from gambling even though they have to use a lot of money, which also won't give them a win. They must realize that gambling carries the risk of losing a lot of money, especially if they don't have good self-control so it will only make them lose a lot of money. And whatever gambling game they play will make them come back again to try to get lucky even though they still use more money. And if they still don't realize that gambling is for fun and entertainment but instead for trying to make money, they will only experience disappointment because they have lost a lot of money. The wins they get will not be able to cover the losses they often get because the losses will become more and more and will not be recoverable. And that is why we must try to be wise gamblers, where we must know that gambling is for entertainment and not for making money.

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