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January 06, 2024, 09:09:58 PM
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User "kayirigi" has posted a fake accusation of scamming against Wasabi Wallet:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480440.0

This user, of course, "self moderated" the fake topic in order to prevent anyone from commenting honestly about these blatantly false accusations.

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There have been 5 documented cases of coinjoins being flagged by exchanges and brokers. All have concerned Wasabi. Rather than fix recurring issues with their implementation, Wasabi claimed that the problem was due to an anti-coinjoin campaign by KYC actors despite the fact that only Wasabi coinjoins have ever been targeted https://6102bitcoin.com/coinjoin-flagging/ (Update: now 6 documented cases. See below.)

Do not let these obvious hit job accounts scare you out of using Bitcoin privately.  If someone you are transacting with "flags" your coinjoined funds, it is not due to "an issue with their implementation", it's because that person is requiring your data in order to transact with them.  Defy them, and become anonymous anyway.

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January 06, 2024, 11:36:55 PM
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Looks like you two have a dispute which you need to set outside this board. The best board to move this topic to is the Reputations board or scam accusations board, since you say kayirigi is a scammer. It's also important to show us how he is a scammer and how much he allegedly scammed.

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January 07, 2024, 08:20:01 AM
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This isn't a discussion that should be held in this board. Topics like this go in the Reputation board or Scam Accusations if you are creating a proper accusation against someone.

You can't hide what someone posts on Bitcointalk anymore because we have scrappers that register everything that is written. You can use Ninjastic.space or Loyce.club to see each post that was made in that thread. If the OP deletes a post in a self-moderated thread, there will be a notification under the title. It will say something like 1 user deleted 1 post. As you can see from kayirigi's thread, no posts have been deleted by anyone. You can confirm that yourself by looking at the thread with the scrappers I mentioned above.

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January 07, 2024, 08:38:04 PM
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Kruwed....are you meaning like when Wasabi gives your data to BC analysis?  Grin Grin Grin

I have scammed no one. Of course. Kruwed says stupid things and no evidence. Normal for him.

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January 08, 2024, 06:26:27 AM
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Scamourai lackeys have to resort to this type of behaviour to deflect from Scamourai's flaws which include revealing your IP address and xpub by default and shitty fake coinjoins which reuse addresses https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/08/sv1gc.jpeg
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January 08, 2024, 01:56:42 PM
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It makes sense to delete Kruw's posts.  The guy ignores the evidence presented all the time.

However, samourai and wasabi people have to grow up.  You cannot appear on every corner of the internet and quarrel.  This is getting ridiculous.

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January 08, 2024, 02:07:26 PM
Last edit: January 08, 2024, 02:20:20 PM by Kruw
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It makes sense to delete Kruw's posts.  The guy ignores the evidence presented all the time.

This is a lie commonly repeated - that I've "ignored" evidence.  What evidence have I ignored?  

You never produced ANY evidence, instead, you were already caught spreading FAKE LIES about Wasabi coinjoins being flawed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457560.msg63191877#msg63191877

Peter Todd already explicitly exposed you as being a liar.  It's time for you to apologize to all of the users you deceived about the privacy guarantees of Wasabi.

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January 08, 2024, 02:21:54 PM
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This is exactly the kind of posts / topics I don't want to see in the forum.

These topics have no value at all and of course they offer nothing to the forum.

Kruw, I am against these topics whoever the OP is. In case you were the "victim" of a similar post, I would say the same. The forum doesn't need these topics.

But! Kruw, you are constantly trying to promote Wasabi as the only software that exists in the world. As a community we are in favour of new approaches, new tools, new services, but of course, we verify their integrity and their privacy before using them. So, claiming that Wasabi products are the only ones that people should use is kind of oxymoron, if you also claim to be a bitcoiner.

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January 08, 2024, 02:24:23 PM
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This is exactly the kind of posts / topics I don't want to see in the forum.

These topics have no value at all and of course they offer nothing to the forum.

Kruw, I am against these topics whoever the OP is. In case you were the "victim" of a similar post, I would say the same. The forum doesn't need these topics.

But! Kruw, you are constantly trying to promote Wasabi as the only software that exists in the world. As a community we are in favour of new approaches, new tools, new services, but of course, we verify their integrity and their privacy before using them. So, claiming that Wasabi products are the only ones that people should use is kind of oxymoron, if you also claim to be a bitcoiner.

Wasabi is not the only software that exists in the world, I don't know how you possibly got the idea that I am against new tools or new services.  BTCPay Server, Trezor, and Joinmarket are all excellent privacy tools as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468481.msg62916706#msg62916706

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January 08, 2024, 02:48:16 PM
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This is a lie commonly repeated - that I've "ignored" evidence.  What evidence have I ignored?

The evidence that suggests the people responsible for wasabi are to avoid.  They partner with chain analysis company, spread the notion that taint exists, dox their competitors, are hypocrites in general.  Sure, wasabi is open source, but that does not mean we should ignore all these facts.

You have also ignored wasabi transactions where there was an actual flaw in the protocol like this one:  https://nitter.cz/ErgoBTC/status/1585671294783311872.  You blame the users for these flaws, unless it is not wasabi.  You misinform by pointing to samourai toxic change being merged with other toxic change as if it is a flaw.  And as the cherry on top, you have called Monero a shitcoin.

This seems as troll behavior, and trolls are sometimes censored.

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January 08, 2024, 02:53:55 PM
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You have also ignored wasabi transactions where there was an actual flaw in the protocol like this one:  https://nitter.cz/ErgoBTC/status/1585671294783311872.  You blame the users for these flaws, unless it is not wasabi.

I told you to APOLOGIZE for spreading this lie that address reuse is a flaw, not REPEAT this lie that address reuse is a flaw. When I asked you before, "Didn't you hear Peter Todd?"  OF COURSE YOU IGNORED IT, BECAUSE IF YOU ACKNOWLEDGED PETER TODD, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR LYING ABOUT WASABI: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457560.msg63192150#msg63192150

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January 08, 2024, 08:50:04 PM
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I don't think that post from kayirigi should be in wallet software section, it only contains a bunch of dark net resources, and it should be moved to scam accusations board.

Nopara73 did leave the Wasabi team and he posted that on his blog article, he said he is moving on to other things, but I didn't saw a single proof that he is a scammer.
Scam accusation is the right place for that topic, but he can create self-moderated topics like anyone else.

Accusing someone for being a scammer, and complaining that someone else is doing the same thing is childish and stupid  Tongue


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Accusing someone for being a scammer, and complaining that someone else is doing the same thing is childish and stupid  Tongue

I reported his post before making my counter topic because it's an obvious hit job, not serious content worth responding to.  Yet, the thread was not moved, so I did what the self moderation instructions say to do: I created a new topic.

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January 08, 2024, 10:48:37 PM
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I reported his post before making my counter topic because it's an obvious hit job, not serious content worth responding to.  Yet, the thread was not moved, so I did what the self moderation instructions say to do: I created a new topic.
Much as calling the developer a scammer was not necessary in my opinion. His post had some information or “update” about the lead developer moving on from wasabi, that's why it wasn't moved away from that board even when you reported it.

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